Re: [Talk-us] ARNOLD highway data

2015-01-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:57 PM, thomas.r...@dot.gov wrote: Things must seem very confusing on what stuff means. HPMS was developed from an engineering perspective and speaks in a language that only Civil Engineers understand. I will be happy to help you through video chats, webinar or other

Re: [Talk-us] Please review: new proposed bylaws for OSM US, open for comments until Jan 20th

2015-01-14 Thread Clifford Snow
Alex, In the by-laws document, paragraph 5.2, it specifies that the Chapter should have members mailing addresses, not just email addresses. I don't recall ever giving my address when I first joined. Most likely I've since forgotten but is the Chapter collecting that information? Thanks, Clifford

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations

2015-01-13 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote: I think we should consider a mechanical edit to update these tags to the 2010 Census figures en masse. I've been updating individual places as I edit them for other reasons, but this tag is most useful when its

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore

2015-01-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: If I were to classify abandoned buildings myself, I'd go by the wiki definition which would include buildings that have fallen into serious disrepair and which could only be put back into operation with expensive

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore

2015-01-12 Thread Clifford Snow
I discovered that shop=vacant has over 6,000 tags. That actually makes sense. The building is vacant with a for lease sign. Many are former shops for example Blockbuster. Clifford On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM

Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-11 Thread Clifford Snow
I did! I need more coffee.. It should read: Oregon Department of Transportation publishes a bike map. I5 is not included in any of their approved routes. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Kerry Irons irons54vor...@gmail.com wrote: Did you leave our the word “not” from the last sentence?

Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. John, I think highway

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Natfoot natf...@gmail.com wrote: The inherent problem with ferry routes is that they have a schedule. Routers can't then tell their users how long it is going to take without that data. As far as I know we don't have schedule capability within OSM and it is

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Natfoot natf...@gmail.com wrote: When talking to the Scout team this summer it was mentioned as an issue. Also Scout wont route across access roads and if there is an access road leading up to the dock/portal then no route. you will notice that it is listed

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: GTFS works fine for ferries already. Many do publish the data. I just checked, Washington State Ferries does use GTFS [1]. I originally posted this message because of a Scout note in OSM. My sense is the problem is

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I examine these in JOSM right now. First they need to be unzipped, and it looks like the (provided on that web page) PRJ file to change from WGS 84 (default) to either NAD 27 or 83 projection is required. I haven't done

[Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Clifford Snow
A Scout note, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/294192 complains of routing problems when a ferry is required. A user of the OSM-based Scout app reported the following possible map error: will not use ferry route. avoid ferry not checked. Is that a problem limited to Scout, or is there something

Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM

2014-12-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: The company providing the service is Where 2 Get It ( http://www.where2getit.com/ ). They provide maps for store locator functions for a number of companies. For example: Moe's Southwest Grill, Safeway, Trader Joe's,

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:09 AM, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote: Sorry, but I read there (same page, paragraph 3a, seems you stopped reading too early) : *For a **browsable electronic map** (e.g. embedded in a web page or mobile phone application), the credit should appear in the corner of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:30 AM, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote: Don't want to start a battle here, but I thought best practises where « © OSM contributors » directly on the map, clearly visible? I don't see anything close to that today, even with the big map they have on their site.

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-17 Thread Clifford Snow
, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:30 AM, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote: Don't want to start a battle here, but I thought best practises where « © OSM contributors » directly on the map, clearly visible? I don't see anything close to that today, even with the big map

Re: [Talk-us] Misspelled names

2014-12-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Mike Henson mikehen...@hotmail.com wrote: I am also having an issue with Walmart, should it be a Marketplace, Supermarket, Department store??? All 3 are used in OSM in Oklahoma. The big Walmart stores should probably be department store. When it is just a

Re: [OSM-talk] Some tools to help community-driven imports

2014-12-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Guillaume Pratte guilla...@guillaumepratte.net wrote: ## Splitting .osm files for the HOT Tasking Manager We are planning to use the HOT Tasking Manager for our import. To ease importing the generated .osm dataset into JOSM (for manual reconciliation with OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Region of York Data Imports

2014-12-05 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Stewart C. Russell scr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephanie, thanks for your note. It's always good to see municipalities opening up their data, and better still to see what citizens can do with it. There are a couple of potential issues that are likely to hinder

Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-12-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Entering most counties you get a sign that's printed in FlySpeck 3 font that reads: Unless otherwise posted speed limit 35 MPH on all roads in Lincoln County I wonder if adding default maxspeed to the city admin

Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-12-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: No, I don't think so. The individual ways seem to be the way to go, especially for editors, since (at least in Oklahoma), posted speed limits, as compared to miles available (as opposed to miles with traffic volume) are

Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?

2014-11-29 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question about how much effort should be put into adding directional suffixes to road names. Many counties around Atlanta have adopted directional suffixes for roads, both in incorporated areas as well as outside

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: A rendering demo can be found here (left the current rendering, right the proposal): http://bl.ocks.org/pnorman/raw/c61d6b11193081910866/#15.00/50.0611/19.9393

Re: [OSM-talk] 176k Wikidata tags to add to OSM

2014-11-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: So far I've included comments from August and November. I need to review the Sep-Oct comments on talk mailing list. Nice. I'd add two items. First, a test case against a small subset to validate the scripts and

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: Nice to see they are using OSM but it would be nicer to see it clearly labeled as using data from OSM. Rand McNally fixed their attribution, but it seem weak. The response Ryan Walker from Rand McNally gave to my inquiry

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 11/22/14 9:29 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Rand McNally is using OSM in TripMaker. Say what? No way. 1.) http://tripmaker.randmcnally.com/ 2.) https://www.mapbox.com/blog/rand-mcnally-uses-mapbox/ perhaps

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-22 Thread Clifford Snow
. Regards, Hans On Nov 22, 2014 8:22 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 11/22/14 9:29 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Rand McNally is using OSM in TripMaker. Say what? No way. 1.) http

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-22 Thread Clifford Snow
A school I just added is also there. I'm impressed that they are using up to the minutes data. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Dave Mansfield mansfie...@chartermi.net wrote: It’s OSM. Looking at edits I made I found an error on the map. I then went to OSM and the error was there so I fixed

[Talk-ca] Vancouver Meetup

2014-11-21 Thread Clifford Snow
We are having our second meetup on Tuesday, November 25 in Vancouver. The meeting will be held at the Community Living Society, 713 Columbia Street, New Westminster, BC. Sign up on http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver/events/218377932/ to attend. It will be a great time. Don't miss it.

Re: [Talk-us] for my next race track mapping project...

2014-11-14 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: back in July, i mapped the new/old road course at Thompson Speedway in Connecticut. this weekend, i should have the opportunity to get some good GPS tracks at the new track at Palmer, Massachusetts, as there is an

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Sarah Hoffmann lon...@denofr.de wrote: If I understand you right then the 'secondary cities' are the actual cities/towns/villages already mapped as either place nodes or administrative boundaries. Those are already used by Nominatim. So it seems the primary

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

2014-11-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Hope these are helpful, and let me know of any further suggestions. Richard, Thanks for doing this. The selection of color and lines make for quick addition. Suggestion - set the tile background to transparent so

Re: [Talk-us] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

2014-11-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Hope these are helpful, and let me know of any further suggestions. Richard, Thanks for doing this. The selection of color and lines make for quick addition. Suggestion - set the tile background to transparent so

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: In the case of US state and Canadian province abbreviations, there is a 1:1 correspondence with no ambiguity. Elsewhere this may or may not be the case. That said, using the USPS abbreviations in the US makes the most

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Congratulations to the NYC mappers on a great proposal. I know it must have been outstanding since you beat us out! Good luck. I look forwarding to going to SOTM-US in NYC. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Congratulations to the NYC mappers on a great proposal. I know it must have been outstanding since you beat us out! Good luck. I look forwarding to going to SOTM-US in NYC. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [Talk-us] Arizona Mappers

2014-11-02 Thread Clifford Snow
email everyone plus announce it on this mailing list with a date. Clifford On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I'm looking for some Arizona mappers interested in improving the rural, i.e. desert, areas. Looking at just two area, Stanford and Wilcox

[Talk-us] Arizona Mappers

2014-11-01 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm looking for some Arizona mappers interested in improving the rural, i.e. desert, areas. Looking at just two area, Stanford and Wilcox, the 2013 TIGER roads are in bad shape. I'm in Arizona for the coming week and then head back to the rain. I'm in Tucson. Anyone want to meet for an informal

Re: [OSM-talk] The Working Groups need you!

2014-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
The answer is yes you need to be a member of the foundation. At least it was when we were attempting to create a new group. This for create problems for those that the annual dues are unaffordable. A work around would be nice. Clifford On Oct 27, 2014 9:33 AM, Matthijs Melissen

Re: [OSM-talk] The Working Groups need you!

2014-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
or me line. From my memory, (which can be suspect), Clifford, I think you may be referring to the Future now aka Strategic Working Group? We felt that to be a bit of an exception due to the nature of the remit. Mike On 27/10/2014 18:10, Clifford Snow wrote: The answer is yes you need

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and correct errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as problematic: they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If we don't manage to get a board majority to postpone the whole thing, there's something else we could do at least: Ask those who stand for election to commit to calling a new GM within a certain time frame, and offer

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: I actually don't think it makes sense for the membership to approach things by passing a bunch of resolutions requiring the board to do things. I think certainly a drastic resolution like dismantling the entire board and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, st...@asklater.com wrote: I'm adding OSMF-talk since it concerns what I outlined in the original “vision statement” email. I was perhaps too specific and jumped ahead saying “world’s best addressable map”. What I really mean is the “world's most complete

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: What if we had some sort of compromise, and we asked the membership if we could hold another AGM in 3 months, followed 2 weeks (or so) later by an election? We've already talked about decoupling it from

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to know how many of the buildings and house numbers in OSM were imported versus surveyed / drawn by hand. I have a bad feeling about how feasible it is to crowd surf house numbers. I think Steve is

[OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
Steve Coast suggested changing the mission statement of OSM to be something like “The world’s best addressable map” I thought I'd separate out this into a new thread. As some backup, I attended my first SOTM-US in 2012 where Steve proposed we build an addressable map. A group of us from Seattle

Re: [talk-latam] [Imports] Is there any bulk feature delete tool or bulk tag updater?

2014-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Also, is there a bulk tag updater? No. There are some methods for changing tags, but typically the work involved in figuring out what objects to change the tags on is more than the code to output the changes in a form

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: One issue is we really have no idea what the OSMF membership wants. We know what some vocal people who write English well want. What a lot of communities do to determine this is have a yearly community survey. Simply

Re: [Talk-us] Presenting your new OSM-US board

2014-10-15 Thread Clifford Snow
Congratulation to everyone who ran which shows we have a strong community. Best of luck to the our new and returning Board Members. And like Toby said, that you to the outgoing Board Members. You rock! Clifford On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Voting

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: While a candidate may have other skills, I'd want to hear from them in their manifesto why those skills make up for their complete lack of OpenStreetMap experience, and why they would be more able to apply those skills as a

Re: [Talk-us] OSM-US tasking manager

2014-09-13 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Would it be possible to create new tasks on this? Because I can think of a lot of stuff that's: 1. Hard for one person to do alone 2. Would go faster if other people knew about it 3. Would probably generate

[Talk-us] Volunteers needed for Maui Building/Address Import

2014-09-12 Thread Clifford Snow
Peter Gehring, Maui County GIS, recently announced on the import list the availability of addresses and building outlines for the county. This could be a great addition but having local OSM mappers involved would invaluable. I was thinking that this import, once fully documented vetted, could be

Re: [Talk-us] Volunteers needed for Maui Building/Address Import

2014-09-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Kam, Kristen krist...@telenav.com wrote: I am not local to Hawaii, but I have family and friends in Oahu. I can ask if any of my ff have contacts in Maui. That would be great! Thanks, Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps

[OSM-talk] Nexus 5 - No GPS - Fix

2014-09-07 Thread Clifford Snow
I want to pass along a fix I found for no gps on my Nexus 5. Neither Mapillary nor OSM Tracker worked. Mapillary said it couldn't get a gps fix. After searching it turns out that my back cover wasn't completely snapped shut on one corner. Snapping it back in place fixed the problem. Just one

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap-carto upgrade, new features, interesting issues

2014-09-06 Thread Clifford Snow
Thanks Paul and to all those that are working on this. Clifford On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: After a delay for hardware reasons (a drive having issues in a rendering server), the Standard stylesheet on OpenStreetMap.org has been upgraded to v2.20.0 of

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Baltimore County Maryland Building and Address Import

2014-09-05 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:59 AM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: Quick update: The import is finished! I've been doing some QC and it really is great to look at, and so useful. OSM in Baltimore County has better addresses than any of the other online maps. Hooray for open source!

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

2014-09-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:52 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I'd like to see (more) well-identified, well-prioritized, even-novices-can-do-this-if-they-want such projects emerge and be displayed in our wiki (or someplace) so that fired-up OSM volunteers itching to map can shop

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-31 Thread Clifford Snow
There seems to be two threads to this conversation. 1) Will the import/mechanical edit be of high quality and 2) do we want a link to Wikidata. Skipping the technical aspects of connecting OSM with Wikidata I like to focus on do we want to link to Wikidata. From the number of wikidata links in

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bingmap=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657 is the one I'm currently on and leaving as it's impossible to see any detail in iD ... how do people cope with the dark images? Lester, I

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:51 AM, OSMR osm_resea...@mail.com wrote: We understand that as a member of multiple lists some OSM contributors may have received the survey invitation more than once and that may have felt like a disrespectful attempt to impose on one's personal time and inbox

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Clifford Snow
I had the same issue. It stopped being about OSM. Which made me suspect that his intent was other than what was announced. I'd be willing to help the OP if he was agreeable to suggestions. Clifford Typos by tablrt On Aug 19, 2014 11:15 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 19/08/14

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Saudi Arabia?

2014-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Osama Khalid osa...@gnu.org wrote: I noticed that the maps on Saudi Arabia are fairly accurate and more rich than I thought, but I couldn't find a mailing list for contributors from Saudi Arabia and the self-identified users from Saudi Arabia seem to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Using unit tags

2014-08-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Nathan Mixter nmix...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way we can start using the addr:unit tag for buildings? This was approved several years ago but it still doesn't render yet. If both the addr:housenumber and addr:unit tags are used, the housenumber tag is

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-08-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is: Neither. It is always easier to go from full names to abbreviations for display than to go the other way around. (See Mapquest tiles - they abbreviate street names) Therefore we should always store

[OSM-talk] Early History of OSM

2014-08-04 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm looking for some images of early OSM maps. Thanks to Martijn Exel, we have http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#10/52.2644/5.2899, the Then and Now from 2007 to current. But I'd really like some images of the very earliest OSM maps. As many others are doing, Seattle is holding an anniversary

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-07-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: I just came across a import of address data in San Diego. I checked the data and all of it is using road abbreviations. Is that normal? Not normal nor acceptable. I would suggest sending a message to the

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-07-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the pointer. I think you're right that in this case especially, there's no reason to admonish anyone, but perhaps we can examine the data and see if there's a safe way to expand it, like we did the TIGER

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-07-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: So if you have expertise in Tilemill, I'd love the help in setting up some tiles that show probable abbreviations. Sorry, I've only created tiles from shapefiles, not from OSM data. I did look at the address data. It

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say make the changes at the city admin level for these reasons. The tribal nations are viewed by the courts as territories but they tend to act more at the city[4] to county[3] COG [1] level. The squabbles feel

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say make the changes at the city admin level for these reasons. The tribal nations are viewed by the courts as territories but they tend to act more at the city[4] to county[3] COG [1] level. The squabbles feel

Re: [OSM-talk] Drones

2014-07-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson j...@betra.is wrote: I'm curious to know if any OSM groups are currently running their own drones for imagery. In Iceland we have been looking longingly at the eBee https://www.sensefly.com/drones/ebee.html but so far haven't started

[Talk-ca] 10th Anniversary Celebration in Seattle Reminder

2014-07-23 Thread Clifford Snow
OpenStreetMap Seattle invites you to the Tenth Anniversary of OpenStreetMap Celebration, August 9th at Tableau Software in Seattle's Fremont neighborhood. Join us to help celebrate OpenStreetMap's Birthday Event. Signup for the event at http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Seattle/events/186048572/

[Talk-us] 10th Anniversary Celebration in Seattle Reminder

2014-07-23 Thread Clifford Snow
OpenStreetMap Seattle invites you to the Tenth Anniversary of OpenStreetMap Celebration, August 9th at Tableau Software in Seattle's Fremont neighborhood. Join us to help celebrate OpenStreetMap's Birthday Event. Signup for the event at http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Seattle/events/186048572/

[Talk-ca] OSM Birthday Event in Seattle: Reminder get your proposals in

2014-07-14 Thread Clifford Snow
, including food and drinks for the participants. Contact me at cliff...@snowandsnow.us if interested. Clifford Snow -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https

[Talk-us] OSM Anniversary Event in Seattle: Reminder to get your proposals submitted

2014-07-14 Thread Clifford Snow
, including food and drinks for the participants. Contact me at cliff...@snowandsnow.us if interested. Clifford Snow -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https

[Talk-ca] Celebrate OpenStreetMap's 10th Anniversary in Seattle (Just across the border from BC)

2014-07-09 Thread Clifford Snow
...@snowandsnow.us if interested. Clifford Snow -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[Talk-us] Seattle is Celebrating OpenStreetMap's 10th Anniversary

2014-07-09 Thread Clifford Snow
...@snowandsnow.us if interested. Clifford Snow -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Street Centerlines in County of Grey, Ontario, Canada

2014-07-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Shah,Soham soham.s...@grey.ca wrote: I was thinking of using the JOSM Editor utility to bulk import the data. I read on the ‘Import process guidelines’ wiki that street centerlines can be very difficult to import. So, I am looking for some guidance and opinions

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I have nothing to add to the CDP discussion but that is not your problem here. I looked at this after my own address import. This is definitely a Nominatim issue. What happens is that Nominatim associates address points

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I reported this as a bug in trac. See https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5190 Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a name!

2014-06-19 Thread Clifford Snow
Open Historical Map which already has a website www.openhistoricalmap.org On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: A few OSM members interested in historic maps are working on our own version of the New York Public Library Building Inspector. If you've

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed repeated mechanical edit: Empty relations

2014-06-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Before actually conducting the edit, I want to see what editors were used, and submit bug reports if there's any regular problems. I'm curious, can you get a count of empty relations by editor and age? Basically, current,

[Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
I can not search for an address in part of unincorporated King County, WA when using the postal city. Fails - 7732 234th Place Northeast, Redmond, WA The search works when omitting the postal city. The search returns the CDP, Union Hill-Novelty Hill at the correct location. Passes - 7732 234th

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government entities and the current tagging of them with an admin_level is clearly wrong (which Paul Norman pointed out to me a little while ago and he's

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: I do not like your statement in favor of deleting Bethesda from OSM. OK -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Saikrishna Arcot saiarcot...@gmail.com wrote: My expectation is that Nominatim would use the CDP (or the city region it's located in) if there is no addr:city, and either 1. would allow either the CDP and addr:city when addr:city is present, or 2.

Re: [Talk-ca] Local Vancouver meeting: Map Central Park

2014-06-03 Thread Clifford Snow
Paul, Thanks for scheduling the mapping party. I plan to attend along with one guest. I'll bring my GPS along with my Android phone with OSMTracker. Clifford On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I am planning on hosting a mapping event in Central Park (

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I think we should extend this a bit, and instead of having a Code of Conduct we shold have a document that says How to be a good mapper. This would include the standard elements of a code of conduct - e.g. about

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Clifford Snow
OpenStreetMap Code of Conduct === I'd like to keep this effort going. Who out there is interested in helping taking the draft CoC through to acceptance? Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

[OSM-talk] Data Working Group (DWG) and Imports

2014-06-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Two recent events seem to have gone beyond reasonable discourse. The Dutch address imports and the addition of 5 US Bike Routes (USBR.) Unfortunately, these are not isolated instances. The mailing lists discussions have spiraled down to include personal attacks. I've chosen to use the subject

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Alan McConchie alan.mcconc...@gmail.com wrote: Leavenworth is a former logging town that has been turned into a mock Bavarian village as a tourist attraction. So I'm not surprised that they are adding Weg to their streets to seem more Germanic. I've been to

[OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-29 Thread Clifford Snow
I need help with a street name. In Leavenworth, WA there is a street named Edelweiss Weg that I want to add. Is Weg an abbreviation for something? It will be tagged highway=service service=alley. Google translate doesn't help. If it is an abbreviation, should it be expanded as we usually do?

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote: Weg is German, approximately means way. It's right as it is, no abbreviation. Funny though that it's outside of the German Sprachraum. Is Leavenworth a town with a lot of German heritage? On May 29, 2014 4:37 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us

Re: [Talk-us] Standard (mapnik) toolchain/processes: can we teach these better?

2014-05-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: Thanks to the talk-us community for entertaining my grumpiness about this, but I truly believe there is a direct connection between asking OSMers to map well and the visual feedback (rewards? yes, I think so) we get by

[Talk-us] Battlegrid

2014-05-21 Thread Clifford Snow
As I work to fix road names in Skagit and Whatcom County I want to make sure that they won't appear on Battlegrid. For example, I just changed North Summit Court to Kinglet Court in Whatcom County. I verified the name which does not match TIGER 2013. Does removing the tiger:reviewed tag keep the

Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid

2014-05-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: you should probably delete the tiger: tags containing the incorrect name as well. once a road has been verified, they contain no useful information from the OSM point of view. Good point. I do try to remember to

Re: [OSM-talk] Visualizing mapping history of an area

2014-05-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: The area of interest is a small town called Talasari, north of Mumbai [2]. The students had very low experience with computers and most had to start from creating email ids. The area was blank a couple of months ago, so

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo Updates

2014-05-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Taginfo got an update with lots of new features: Maps for tags, easy comparison of keys/tags, better integration with overpass turbo and Level0 editor, and more... Thanks for the update. Taginfo is one of my most used

Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

2014-05-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson j...@betra.iswrote: I personally subscribe to new OSM users feed for two countries which I'm focused on and check out their first edits, these are not high activity countries so perhaps others have more problems but so far none appears

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