Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi everybody, i've made a few corrections on the osm files, so please grab the new files at the same place : http://osm.bmaron.net/urbis/ Changelog : - Add missing relation - Fix some addresses not in relations - Add type to multipolygons and building=yes ___

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! - relation 2966021 (suite)

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Pierre Parmentier < pierrecparment...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > >1. Relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2966021 updated. >Please check. >2. Did we agree to include the node with the street number in the >relation? > > all buildin

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! - relation 2966021 (suite)

Hello, 1. Relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2966021 updated. Please check. 2. Did we agree to include the node with the street number in the relation? 3. Street number : do we add a node with the number or do we tag it in the way "building/house"? 4. What t

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, I just managed to create another script which automates the integration of the existing buildings with the buildings generated from the UrbIS data. It runs inside the scripting plugin of JOSM. So now there is 1 script to select all the buildings belonging to 1 street. Then copy/paste this i

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Maybe ? Ways with postalcode 12 are from 2008, rest from 2012 ? 2013/5/31 Marc Gemis > Unfortunately, not all application handle this inheritance in a proper > way. Even not Nomatim > I currently have a problem with house numbers in Reet. > > Search for "Steenweg op Waarloos 35" on the openstr

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Unfortunately, not all application handle this inheritance in a proper way. Even not Nomatim I currently have a problem with house numbers in Reet. Search for "Steenweg op Waarloos 35" on the openstreetmap.org site and you get a complete address with postcode 2840. Search for any other number and

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

I create a new associatedStreet relation each time one of the parameters (addr:street, addr:postcode) changes. As far as I'm concerned these tags get inherited by the houses which are members of it. Jo 2013/5/30 eMerzh > Hi just a question... > when an associated street goes over 2 city, do we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi just a question... when an associated street goes over 2 city, do we make 2 relations? if no, how do we deal with street changing street translations between city ? On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:19 PM, eMerzh wrote: > Btw, no need to say that we need to integrate this with care ... i've > foun

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

Hello; Oui désolé j'aurais pu être plus précis, donc en gros tu as une relation (id : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2966021 ) tu as 1 seul tag sur ta relation : - associatedStreet = Rue François Stroobant - François Stroobantstraat alors qu'il faudrait : - type = associate

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

Brice, Tu me dis : "sur la rue François Stroobant la relation est pas correct". Quelques précisions pour bien comprendre ? Je vois qu'elle n'a pas de vrai nom. Mais encore ? Thanks a lot. Foxandpotatoes ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.o

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

Ok coool :) Sinon, je rencontre quand même assez fréquemment des nodes seuls qui ne sont pas dans la relation ... ptet un bug dans le script .. je cherche mais je n'ai pas encore réussi a établir une règle kk fois c'était avec les lettres (9A, 9B, ...) mais pas tjs :s (genre 23 chee de wemmel

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

Je cherche encore un moyen pour faciliter la sélection avant de recopier. Puis, j'essayerai de faire un script pour aider à simplifier les bâtiments et de faire une façon pour transférer les nouvelles géometries vers les bâtiments existants. Il faudrait que tout le monde installe le scripting plu

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

Hello, j'ai rapidement regardé et voici mes petites remarques : - Il ne faut pas oublier de simplifier les noeuds sur les buildings: enlever les points inutiles genre au 31 Rue François Stroobant, - sur la rue François Stroobant la relation est pas correct, il faut suivre https://wiki.openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

2013/5/29 Pierre Parmentier > Hello, > >1. Avec JOSM, j'ai fait des imports sur 1050, 1060, 1180 et 1190 entre >Brugmann, Waterloo et Vanderkindere. Merci de commenter si mes imports sont >corrects. >2. Ces imports ont été faits en copiant-collant les ways "building", >sans im

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open! (suite)

Hello, 1. Avec JOSM, j'ai fait des imports sur 1050, 1060, 1180 et 1190 entre Brugmann, Waterloo et Vanderkindere. Merci de commenter si mes imports sont corrects. 2. Ces imports ont été faits en copiant-collant les ways "building", sans import de relation. 3. J'ai créé une relat

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Btw, no need to say that we need to integrate this with care ... i've found some outdated shapes :) On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:00 PM, eMerzh wrote: > Yeah thanks iv" just found it for the relation ... easyer now :) > > And for the point, i think the as we don't have the entrance info yet > (n

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Yeah thanks iv" just found it for the relation ... easyer now :) And for the point, i think the as we don't have the entrance info yet (need some times to check) it's easier to let it like this and it will be easier to change it later when we have the info On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Jo w

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, I do RMB (right mouse button) select members, then RMB again Select relation (add). I think it should be possible with search as well. Ctrl-f parent selected (Tick the o add to selection radio button) We'll have to discuss the merging of nodes to create 31-33 and put that housenumber on th

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, just small questions - how do you do to copy the street relation too? you have to re do it when you change the layer ? (copy/past of buildings + addresses) for me it's better to let 2 nodes in a building if iut has multiple addresses than merging them (we don't know if it's exactly the sam

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

I'm trying my hand at the most northern part of Sint-Lambrechts-Woluwe, where Leuvensesteenweg crosses it for a very short stretch. Who know, maybe I'll come up with a way to further automate the process inside JOSM... although I don't think it's a major problem some wetware intervention is requir

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Yey, thanks Jo :) I begin with Jette right away :) On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Paul-André Duchesne wrote: > Hi, > > Great Job from you and eMerzh ! Thanks guys ! > > The mouse and keyboard will now suffer for the corrections and creations > in JOSM :) > > Kind regards, > > Paul > > > 201

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, Great Job from you and eMerzh ! Thanks guys ! The mouse and keyboard will now suffer for the corrections and creations in JOSM :) Kind regards, Paul 2013/5/27 Jo > 2013/5/27 A.Pirard.Papou > >> On 2013-05-27 07:38, Jo wrote : >> >> Hi, >> >> So, UrbIS has opened all geodata for Brusse

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

2013/5/27 A.Pirard.Papou > On 2013-05-27 07:38, Jo wrote : > > Hi, > > So, UrbIS has opened all geodata for Brussels. eMerzh and me have been > converting this data, so it becomes usable directly in JOSM or Merkaartor. > ... > > Great eMerging JoB !!! > Yes, I really learned a lot about the pos

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

On 2013-05-27 07:38, Jo wrote : > Hi, > > So, UrbIS has opened all geodata for Brussels. eMerzh and me have been > converting this data, so it becomes usable directly in JOSM or > Merkaartor. ... Great eMerging JoB !!! André. PS: you may want to add FIXMEs or to use some other means to know wha

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, So, UrbIS has opened all geodata for Brussels. eMerzh and me have been converting this data, so it becomes usable directly in JOSM or Merkaartor. The files can be found here: http://osm.bmaron.net/urbis/ For every street I created an associatedStreet relation automatically. In JOSM the easi

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi Jo, i'm also new to Qgis so not really aware of the limits ... why not a python script but i can't help you with this one.. what kind of input do you think will be the best? i have to test those josm plugin but it can be part of a solution yes... On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Jo wr

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

It seems we're the only ones communicating on this, but that's OK. 2013/5/12 eMerzh > Thanks for your help Jo, > > > >> I looked at your files and you have the building shapes converted >> already... great! I'd like to learn how you did it. >> > > I'm not a qgis expert so it may not be the best/

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Thanks for your help Jo, On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Jo wrote: > Hi eMerzh, > > I'm sorry, you ended up on the todo / procrastrination pile. > No problems ;-) > I looked at your files and you have the building shapes converted > already... great! I'd like to learn how you did it. > I'm

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi eMerzh, I'm sorry, you ended up on the todo / procrastrination pile. I took another go at trying to import the data into PostGIS, to be able to visualise it in QGIS. I noticed there are several hurdles: LATIN1 encoded instead of UTF-8 Lambert72 instead of WGS-84 And now I noticed the dbf f

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi everyone :) i take some times to look more in the data of urbis, i also played with qgis to try to extract some informations... i started with buildings and addresses as i think it's the weakest point in brussels... So here is my take on etterbeek (as it's a small one): I split it in 3 files

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

For info: (i wanted to send it to everybody but i send it only to Jo) So First: i've spoke to Osmose dev , they seems to agree to help with integration of some elements of URBIS if we can provide csv files (easier for them to work with). They also think that this method better fit objects that ar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi , Thanks for you researches Jo... i'm currently reading the user guide given upper, and it may helps you to understand what's what :p yesterday Cquest from osm-fr gave me his extract of addresses so it must be possible some way ... (see here http://my.bmaron.net/public.php?service=files&t=72641

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi eMerzh, The data is provided in different ways. I started by looking at the topology files, but everything is totally fragmented in there and I can't seem to find the glue to tie it all together once again. One would have to 'reconstruct' the front, sides and backside of the houses and combine

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi eMerzh, Opening the shape file in QGIS was trivial, this helped me to determine UrbTopBB06N contains the housenumbers. Opendata plugin was already installed, and this means one can simply use File Open to open that shape file. Then I selected all and renamed NAME to addr:housenumber and I remo

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi everybody ... it seems that i'm the only one interrested here :p So i keep you posted with my last infos on urbis : If you don't have a lot of fancy gis tools at home josm can help you, install the opendata plugin it will let you open some shape files :) yey step one :) Then you find a lot of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Btw, the official announce : http://blog.cibg.irisnet.be/brussels-urbis-enfin-disponible-sous-licence-open-data/ On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > ** > On 2013-04-27 09:58, Wim Crols wrote : > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM, A.Pirard.Papou > wrote: > >> On 2013-04

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

On 2013-04-27 09:58, Wim Crols wrote : > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM, A.Pirard.Papou > mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 2013-04-26 11:20, Chris Browet wrote : >> The Lambert72 PROJ4 string extracted from the prj is: >> >> +proj=lcc +lat_1=49.839 +lat_2=51.1666

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > ** > On 2013-04-26 11:20, Chris Browet wrote : > > The Lambert72 PROJ4 string extracted from the prj is: > > +proj=lcc +lat_1=49.839 +lat_2=51.172333 +lat_0=90 > +lon_0=4.3674866 +x_0=15.01256 +y_0=5400088.4378 +e

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

On 2013-04-26 11:20, Chris Browet wrote : > The Lambert72 PROJ4 string extracted from the prj is: > > +proj=lcc +lat_1=49.839 +lat_2=51.172333 +lat_0=90 > +lon_0=4.3674866 +x_0=15.01256 +y_0=5400088.4378 > +ellps=intl +units=m +no_defs > > And doesn't quite work. > > This

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Very good news ! > The licence seems to be permissive and OSM compatible...(any > confirmation on that?) The licence was written to permit a reuse in OSM, according to the responsible of the Urbis Service. We should ask our French colleagues how to satisfy the mention of the data's producer: the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Merkaartor can open shape files. I tried it but there seems to be an issue with the the shp projection (the .prj file). The Lambert72 PROJ4 string extracted from the prj is: +proj=lcc +lat_1=49.839 +lat_2=51.172333 +lat_0=90 +lon_0=4.3674866 +x_0=15.01256 +y_0=5400088.4378

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

I can do using ogr2osm. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ogr2osm Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com http://twitter.com/xivk On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:34 PM, eMerzh wrote: > It seems to be possible to download every

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

It seems to be possible to download everything in shape file... here http://www.cirb.irisnet.be/catalogue-de-services/urbis/telechargement anyone has some experience on converting shape to osm files? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > I have a similar thing setup for a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

I have a similar thing setup for a task for HOT; I created a service that returns OSM data based on a tile specification or bounding box: http://{hostname}:{port}/box/{filename}.osm?bbox=left,bottom,right,top http://{hostname}:{port}/data/{x}/{y}/{zoom}/{filename}.osm It's on github (http://githu

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Can't we contact the French and Dutch people that do similar things ? For The Netherlands, there is this (long running) forum thread on the BAG: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=18311&p=1 They split the Db up in smaller (.osm) parts that can be imported in JOSM. Then a manual edit a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

I'm talking only about adresses. I'm not sure about the rest... but we should be very carefull with any imports. I think using the data more as a mapping guideline might be better in any situation compared to an actual automated import. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ben

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

So if i'm right, you are thinking about like tracing OSM over Urbis by hand? Isn't there a nicer method and more accurate? not that i want to import everything in bulk... but at least avoid the manual tracing or smth? i'm not that aware of what we can do with the format here :) On Thu, Apr 2

Re: [OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, I have been working on this for AGIV also and I have emailed with someone from urbis and i think the license is ok. There is the need to mention the source but we should check with them if it is ok to put it on the wiki as a datasource. I was thinking about an extra layer that could be loaded

[OSM-talk-be] URBis, Open!

Hi, some times aga there where a announce about the liberation of Urbis (the gis system of Brussels). And now, this is it, i've miss the announce but it seems to be available since the 1st april ...no jokes :p http://www.cirb.irisnet.be/catalogue-de-services/urbis/acces-aux-donnees The licence s