[OSM-talk-be] Zaventem internationale luchthaven

2012-09-28 Thread Joren
OSM'ers, Ik heb gemerkt dat op de website http://openbusmap.org/ onze (grootste) Belgische luchthaven niet wordt weergegeven op de kaart. Andere internationale naburige luchthavens van Duitsland (Düsseldorf, Keulen, ...) en Nederland (Schiphol) worden wel netjes weergegeven. Is hier iets aan

[OSM-talk-be] Zaventem internationale luchthaven

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
On http://www.flosm.de/html/POI-Karte.html I noticed that Dusseldorf Schiphol have the tag aerodrome = international aeroway = aerodrome Zaventem only has aeroway = aerodrome But it might be better to contact the creator of openbusmap (see Legal Info/License) on the website and ask which

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zaventem internationale luchthaven

2012-09-28 Thread Ben Laenen
On Friday 28 September 2012 13:14:46 Marc Gemis wrote: On http://www.flosm.de/html/POI-Karte.html I noticed that Dusseldorf Schiphol have the tag aerodrome = international aeroway = aerodrome Zaventem only has aeroway = aerodrome But it might be better to contact the creator of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zaventem internationale luchthaven

2012-09-28 Thread Joren DC
I also can't find any documentation. But I think Zaventem fits in these criteria for sure (but it's always important to be sure offcourse). Kind regards, Joren Op 28/09/12 13:28, Ben Laenen schreef: On Friday 28 September 2012 13:14:46 Marc Gemis wrote: On

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bikeToWork

2012-09-28 Thread Joren DC
I just checked the site again. They haven't changed anything yet. Sander, did they reply on your message? Kind regards, Joren Op 24/09/12 16:02, Sander Deryckere schreef: On the site http://www.biketowork.be, the tiles of OSM are used, but Georges noticed that there is no mention of OSM. So

[OSM-legal-talk] Wiki fotos with Unkunown license

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
What does Unknown license mean for fotos in the wiki? Isn't there a requirement for them to be at least available under cc-by-sa? An example is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Ballroom.jpg cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Wiki fotos with Unkunown license

2012-09-28 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 28.09.2012 10:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: What does Unknown license mean for fotos in the wiki? Isn't there a requirement for them to be at least available under cc-by-sa? An example is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Ballroom.jpg Google image search found this picture for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Wiki fotos with Unkunown license

2012-09-28 Thread Dave F.
On 28/09/2012 16:15, Stephan Knauss wrote: Google image search found this picture for sale on this stock photo agency: Bleedin' hell! Look at those prices! That has got to be a joke. Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:14 PM To: penor...@mac.com; cqu...@openstreetmap.fr; si...@poole.ch Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Réf.: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre Le ven. 28

[OSM-talk] Réf.: RE: Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 08:00 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:14 PM To: penor...@mac.com; cqu...@openstreetmap.fr; si...@poole.ch Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject:

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:21:38PM +0100, THEVENON Julien wrote: De : Sarah Hoffmann lon...@denofr.de I don't know which data you have been looking at, but let's ask Nominatim, shall we? Ok, so by example could you extract stats from Grenoble instead of whole France ? I thinks this quite

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 08:00 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : sorry this detailled here in section les differents calques wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cadastre_Français/Aspects_techni ques_du_cadastre_en_ligne and here qu est ce qui est reutilisable

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Sep 2012, at 06:25, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr wrote: -- Le jeu. 27 sept. 2012 20:18 HAEC, Sarah Hoffmann a écrit : This is the real problem for us. For the sake of completeness: planetwide there are currently 152 million

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
The larger part of cadastre data is just dumped into the data base never to be touched again by any mapper. That's also wrong, the french community has developed some very powerful tools like osmose.openstreetmap.fr which is used to automatically discover many errors from cadastre and

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Mann
While I would agree that the French data is huge, it _is_ pleasing to be able to make maps where the density of building is observable, even if you know nothing about the buildings. I'm not sure that every building in every village is quite required, but it'll probably go that way eventually. Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
I know. My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with source tags and source tags for each and every tag on each object which is starting to happen. You can then use the changeset info to synthesise the source info down to

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: I don't agree the cadastre is ugly once rendered ! A rendered map like this for example, is in my opinion something more pleasant than a map with only a house once and there with large holes : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.70272lon=7.26654zoom=15layers=Q This

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
There are some excellent examples of how mapping should be done all over the world. But I do hope we have shown that a large percentage of the data STILL needs a lot of work? At the end of the day this is more about education of mappers and how to get the best out of the material

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Shaun McDonald wrote: My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with source tags and source tags for each and every tag on each object which is starting to happen. You can then use the changeset info to synthesise the source

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: There are some excellent examples of how mapping should be done all over the world. But I do hope we have shown that a large percentage of the data STILL needs a lot of work? At the end of the day this is more about education of mappers and how to get the best out of

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 28/09/2012 10:00, Lester Caine a écrit : There are some excellent examples of how mapping should be done all over the world. But I do hope we have shown that a large percentage of the data STILL needs a lot of work? At the end of the day this is more about education of mappers and how to

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Philip Barnes
I would prefer to keep the source tag with the object. Within a changeset I will often have some roads where source is GPS, have traced some buildings from bing, and added a few pub/shop names where source is survey Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/09/2012 8:55 Shaun McDonald wrote: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Philip Barnes
Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/09/2012 9:21 Lester Caine wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with

[OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Philip Barnes wrote: I would prefer to keep the source tag with the object. Within a changeset I will often have some roads where source is GPS, have traced some buildings from bing, and added a few pub/shop names where source is survey I did put my hand up for a tag which is automatically

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. You don't even need the fourth step - the dialogue that appears when you click the way/node id is the history. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Olivier Croquette
We don't have to choose between the 2 solutions (source on objects vs. source on change set). It's possible to use a fall back system, something like : For display : If no source is available on an object, show the source of the last change set (if available) For editing : If no source is set

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. I think that the question was about changeset tags, in which case there are a couple more steps: View History. Choose the changeset to view information for, and click it. Here's an

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Olivier Croquette
On Sep 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Olivier Croquette wrote: For display : If no source is available on an object, show the source of the last change set (if available) Actually that should read: show the sources of all change sets that created or modified the object. The whole thing would need a

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Pieren
The tag 'source' on the changeset has some pros and cons: Pros: - size in database - works only if the changeset comes from a single source Cons: - impossible to modify after changeset is closed - attribution lost in data extracts, planet (separate file for changesets) - doesn't allow more than

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Pieren wrote: - attribution lost in data extracts, planet (separate file for changesets) ACTUALLY that is probably the killer? Local working with truncated extracts SHOULD still report this type of data? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact -

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: I did put my hand up for a tag which is automatically applied for those of us who forget it ;) If I have a background layer up it automatically adds that tag to each object. If I'm selecting stuff from another source then that gets added. ALL of this

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Lester Caine wrote: I did put my hand up for a tag which is automatically applied for those of us who forget it ;) If I have a background layer up it automatically adds that tag to each object. In Potlatch you can simply press 'B' (for 'Background') to add the source= tag for the current

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: Pieren wrote: - attribution lost in data extracts, planet (separate file for changesets) ACTUALLY that is probably the killer? Local working with truncated extracts SHOULD still report this type of data? come on, I think you are overexxagerating

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: The tag 'source' on elements: Pros: - support multiple sources during edit session - attribution present in planet, extracts - can be modified at any time - retrieve one element history is easy (one API call) Cons: - size in database - works fine only

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: It mostly boils down to the simple question: does the mapper have local knowledge or doesn't he. Did he recently survey the area? Reviewing my own 'processing', even where I have local knowledge I know I should be adding tags when I'm tracing, but when I'm in the flow

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: I have to change manually, but the DATA certainly is important, and tags like 'start_date' should be populated by default! How would the editor (program) know about the start_date? What are you using this tag for? cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I am not advocating to act accordingly, but saying that in every data extract there must be full history (that is also attribution, to see who edited the stuff), or changeset information, or source-tags , or a source-tag on every single object might not be necessary.

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: Full history comes from the main database ... I was just advocating 'source' which adds to the information when one is looking at something and saying That is wrong! you may know straight away that it is a candidate to update. yes, but often when

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Kevin Peat
On 28 September 2012 15:13, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: yes, but often when something is wrong, the source-tag is as well ;-). I have seen lots of source=PSG (coastline) where the data obviously was far too detailed to be from PSG, it is because people hardly remove

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Someoneelse wrote: Is there any easy way (in any editor with any plugin) of getting to this information - preferably a collated list of object / changeset tags? I've just done this in P2's history dialogue for 'comment' and 'source':

Re: [OSM-talk] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?

2012-09-28 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: You could expand the remap-a-tron to include all areas on Earth. That might keep everybody busy for awhile. If it doesn't, it's a positive problem. :) I would love to but I don't have the resources at this moment.

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I have to change manually, but the DATA certainly is important, and tags like 'start_date' should be populated by default! How would the editor (program) know about the start_date? What are you using this tag for? Eventually a corrected date can be added ... we

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk writes:  I would prefer to keep the source tag with the object. Within a changeset I will often have some roads where source is GPS, have traced some buildings from bing, and added a few pub/shop names where source is survey Changeset info can be

[OSM-talk] About attribution to authors

2012-09-28 Thread Mike
Let's say, someone prepares data by recording it in the field, and then adds another value to data by sorting it out, fixing it and adding more information and details. And then he wants to include that data to OpenStreetMap. What is mean of giving proper author attribution? All I can see is

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Someoneelse wrote: Is there any easy way (in any editor with any plugin) of getting to this information - preferably a collated list of object / changeset tags? I've just done this in P2's history dialogue for 'comment' and 'source':

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Jérome Armau
The only real problem I see mentioned above is the overall size of the database. It seems to me that we are somehow confusing problems caused by the data itself with problems caused by its storage in the database. Couldn't we simply work on a scheme that would normalize the database, so that we'd

Re: [OSM-talk] About attribution to authors

2012-09-28 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello Mike, On 28.09.2012 18:16, Mike wrote: What is mean of giving proper author attribution? All I can see is that OpenStreetMap is presented in copyright notes, not actual authors. The only way I found out to see author attribution is to download openstreet data and then search there. we

Re: [OSM-talk] Street/POI Index from OSM data

2012-09-28 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Alex Rollin alex.rollin at gmail.com writes: Hello, I am rather new to OSM data.  I've enjoyed doing edits on the map and now I'd like to start learning how to arrange it on a printed page. I know there are lots and lots of tools out there. Could I receive a few recommendations

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?

2012-09-28 Thread Nathan Oliver
A few things that I'm still encountering that might be easy to detect: *One-way streets that aren't connected to anything at one end. *Motorways or Trunk that are dead-ends (probably could be extended to *-link, and maybe to Primary/Secondary, but I'm not sure how far you can go before it becomes

Re: [OSM-talk] About attribution to authors

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com: I understand that making attribution to all authors at once is problem due to large number of involved authors, but there should be some way to give proper attribution to real persons who contribute to OpenStreetMap. We had this attribution at least in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hosting of rackspace gezocht voor yournavigation.org

2012-09-28 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Is het ook een optie om het in het normale OSM serverpark te hangen of wil je het graag zelf in beheer houden? En indien dat laatste, heb je enig idee van de kosten voor een jaar hosting? Misschien kunnen we een crowdfunding actie opzetten. Groet, Floris 2012/9/28 Lambertus o...@na1400.info

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hosting of rackspace gezocht voor yournavigation.org

2012-09-28 Thread Frank Heinen
Hoi, Kosten zijn vrij simpel te berekenen. Als je een cheap-ass hoster neemt als OVH, die bieden hosting aan voor een leuke server voor een ~ € 1500 euro per jaar http://www.ovh.nl/dedicated_servers/eg_hybrid.xml of http://www.ovh.nl/dedicated_servers/eg_ssd_max.xml Dat draait goed, ik spreek

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hosting of rackspace gezocht voor yournavigation.org

2012-09-28 Thread Pander
Rackspace voor colocatie is relatief duur t.o.v. Een virtual server huren. De meeste prijzen zijn op basis van stroomverbruik en met meerdere virtual hosts op dezelfde (flinke) server is sat de goedkoopste oplossing. Bovendien is een virtual image makkelijker te verhuizen. Frank Heinen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Fwd: Gebruikersvoorwaarden BAG niet meer van toepassing

2012-09-28 Thread Cartinus
Hallo, Vervelend dat ondanks dit PostNL en Cendris nog steeds mensen/bedrijven aanvallen die wat doen met de postcodes uit de BAG. Zie de brief onderaan de volgende pagina: http://www.postcodeatlas.nl/pages/postcodebestand.html On 09/18/2012 05:39 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi talk-nl,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hosting of rackspace gezocht voor yournavigation.org

2012-09-28 Thread Cartinus
Crowdfunding lijkt mij inderdaad ook meer continue kopzorgen geven als een concrete sponsor vinden. Als je er echter toch toe besluit, kijk dan eens bij de veiling van Hetzner [1]. De goedkoopste machine met minimaal 16GB RAM is op dit moment €68,-/maand. https://robot.your-server.de/order/market

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hosting of rackspace gezocht voor yournavigation.org

2012-09-28 Thread Lambertus
Bij de huidige sponsoring draaide de VM eerst op een quadcore 1.6 GHz met 16 GB shared ram en dat het ram geshared werd was goed te merken. Alsof de data van een harddisk moest komen i.p.v. gebufferd uit ram. Niet vooruit te branden. Sinds de VM 16 GB dedicated ram heeft is de performance een

[talk-au] Aus remapping task server

2012-09-28 Thread Chris Barham
Hi, Has anyone got the tech smarts/resources to stand up a remap-a-tron for Australia? It seems to have been rather a success in the USA, and could help us direct our remapping efforts: demo: http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/remap/ Source: https://github.com/mvexel/remapatron Might be a good time to

Re: [talk-au] Aus remapping task server

2012-09-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 28.09.2012 18:07, schrieb Chris Barham: .. Might be a good time to do it as the remaining rebuild jobs for Australia seem to be nearing completion: Brisbane: http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/29 Hobart: http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/33 So I imagine some people will be looking for more

[Talk-de] Die ueblichen Orte zum Salsatanzen

2012-09-28 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Guten Abend, ich hatte vor das hier amenity=bar dance:style=salsa,bachata,merengue dance:teaching=yes fuer den recht haeufigen Fall einer Bar mit Tanzflaeche, in der haupsaechlich Salsa, Bachata und Merengue getanzt wird, und es am frueheren Abend einen ein- oder zweistuendigen Tanzkurs gibt zu

Re: [Talk-de] Die ueblichen Orte zum Salsatanzen

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. September 2012 09:31 schrieb Philipp Klaus Krause p...@spth.de: ich hatte vor das hier amenity=bar dance:style=salsa,bachata,merengue dance:teaching=yes fuer den recht haeufigen Fall einer Bar mit Tanzflaeche, in der haupsaechlich Salsa, Bachata und Merengue getanzt wird, und es am

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Hallo Sven! Am 27. September 2012 16:51 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de : Andreas Trawoeger atra...@kartenwerkstatt.at wrote: Jetzt muss ich schon mal doof fragen warum Du nicht einfach gefragt hast? Ich habe in meinem blog http://blog.gegg.us schon oft was über solche

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Hallo Simon! Am 27. September 2012 19:11 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: Generell ist aber die Idee nicht schlecht und ausbaufähig (es gibt nur schon im DACH Raum viel mehr Quellen als was du schon integriert hast). Allerdings sind viele davon nicht direkt für einen Webdienst allgemeiner

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread aighes
Hallo, wenn ich es als Laie richtig verstehe, ist der Vorteil für mich, dass ich automatisch das höchstauflösende Luftbild angezeigt bekomme und nicht hin und her schalten muss, richtig? Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Sven Geggus
Andreas Trawoeger atra...@kartenwerkstatt.at wrote: Einen einzelnen Layer wie bei wms.openstreetmap.de von der lokalen Landesprojektion und der jeweiligen Bounding Box nach Web Mercator zu transformieren, ist keine große Hexerei. Na ja, das mit dem BETA2007 war so einfach nun auch wieder

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Manuel Reimer
Stephan Wolff s.wolff at web.de writes: In vielen andere Fällen ist das taggen für den Renderer weit verbreitet: - natural=beach für Bunker auf Golfplätzen Autsch. Ganz übel. Das da noch niemand wenigstens versucht hat, etwas alternatives in den Mapnik-Stil zu bekommen. Wird denn natural=sand

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Labres
Hallo Sven! Das Tolle von Andreas' Umsetzung ist IMO das Vereinigen verschiedener Quellen, das funktioniert für den Benutzer automatisch (kein URL-Raussuchen mehr...) und das kenne ich sonst von niemandem. (und außerdem sein Landungs-Video... ;) /al

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Vonwald
Am 28. September 2012 11:59 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de: Stephan Wolff s.wolff at web.de writes: In vielen andere Fällen ist das taggen für den Renderer weit verbreitet: - natural=beach für Bunker auf Golfplätzen Autsch. Ganz übel. Das da noch niemand wenigstens versucht

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:06:12PM +0200, Andreas Labres wrote: (und außerdem sein Landungs-Video... ;) Ja, das ist ziemlich cool! Wo kommt der Soundtrack her? Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. September 2012 12:09 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: natural=sand wird gerendert. Das habe ich auch für Bunker verwendet, zusammen mit golf=bunker [1]. Allerdings wäre mir der Tag landcover=sand deutlich lieber, aber bis in der Hinsicht was weitergeht, vergehen wohl noch

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Vonwald
Am 28. September 2012 13:32 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 28. September 2012 12:09 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: natural=sand wird gerendert. Das habe ich auch für Bunker verwendet, zusammen mit golf=bunker [1]. Allerdings wäre mir der Tag landcover=sand

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Am 28. September 2012 10:58 schrieb aighes o...@aighes.de: wenn ich es als Laie richtig verstehe, ist der Vorteil für mich, dass ich automatisch das höchstauflösende Luftbild angezeigt bekomme und nicht hin und her schalten muss, richtig? Langfristiges Ziel ist es zwei Dinge zu erreichen: -

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. September 2012 13:39 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: Nein - natural=sand ist genauso Schwachsinn wie ein Großteil der natural-Werte. naja, das würde ich so gar nicht mal unterschreiben, die Hauptwerte (also die auf der natural-key-Seite) passen eigentlich weit überwiegend

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Vonwald
Am 28. September 2012 14:50 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 28. September 2012 13:39 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: Nein - natural=sand ist genauso Schwachsinn wie ein Großteil der natural-Werte. naja, das würde ich so gar nicht mal unterschreiben, die

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Am 28. September 2012 11:22 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de : Andreas Trawoeger atra...@kartenwerkstatt.at wrote: Einen einzelnen Layer wie bei wms.openstreetmap.de von der lokalen Landesprojektion und der jeweiligen Bounding Box nach Web Mercator zu transformieren, ist

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Am 28. September 2012 12:13 schrieb Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:06:12PM +0200, Andreas Labres wrote: (und außerdem sein Landungs-Video... ;) Ja, das ist ziemlich cool! Wo kommt der Soundtrack her? Curiosity has landed:

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Kolossos
Ich mag das Projekt und würde den kombinierten Layer gerne in die OSM-Karte der Wikipedia einbinden. Eine Testversion gibt es schon : http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-json3.php?lang=detitle=Donaulayers=0B0F Die Luftbilder lassen sich darin mit WIWOSM, hillshading und

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Sven Geggus
Andreas Trawoeger atra...@kartenwerkstatt.at wrote: Die Schwierigkeit sind die Zoomstufen 0-5. Ah jetzt verstehe ich. Du meinst wenn die Kacheln einen Bereich haben der außerhalb des WMS extent leigt (wie in meienr Skizze). Wäre einen Versuch Wert mal einen Mapserver mit manuell definiertem

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder via OpenGeoServer.at

2012-09-28 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Hallo Tim! Am 28. September 2012 16:52 schrieb Kolossos tim.al...@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de : Ich mag das Projekt und würde den kombinierten Layer gerne in die OSM-Karte der Wikipedia einbinden. Eine Testversion gibt es schon : http://toolserver.org/~**kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-**

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 28.09.2012 13:39, schrieb Martin Vonwald: Nein - natural=sand ist genauso Schwachsinn wie ein Großteil der natural-Werte. Ist aber halt das, was dem ganzen am nächsten kommt, daher habe ich das damals verwendet. :-/ Ist nicht das etablierte Tag, das einem landcover=sand am nächsten kommt,

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 28.09.2012 21:41, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 28.09.2012 13:39, schrieb Martin Vonwald: Nein - natural=sand ist genauso Schwachsinn wie ein Großteil der natural-Werte. Ist aber halt das, was dem ganzen am nächsten kommt, daher habe ich das damals verwendet. :-/ Ist nicht das etablierte Tag,

Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 29. September 2012 00:11 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Da im Golf jeder Bunker aus Sand besteht, kann man surface=sand auch weglassen. Ein Programm, das golf=bunker nicht auswertet, kann auch die Eigenschaft surface=sand nicht nutzen bzw. darstellen. Wieso? Das Programm muss von

Re: [Talk-it] Tag place ridondanti

2012-09-28 Thread Alberto
Simone ha ragione, Vercelli sembra corretto. Ma cercate Casale Monferrato o Brusson: di ciascuno ne trova due e non capisco perché invece con Vercelli non succede. A Vercelli forse il tag is_in centra qualcosa? Oppure il fatto che il nodo centrale di Vercelli fa parte di relazioni boundary? Tra

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread emmexx
Il 09/28/2012 07:54 AM, Davide Ferri scrisse: Sto seguendo con altri il tpl a Torino e la soluzione che abbiamo adottato e che funziona permettamente anche con i router stradali è di spezzare la rotonda ma lasciare il tag junction roundabout sui vari tratti della rotonda e togliere il oneway

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread Maurizio Daniele
Il 28 settembre 2012 08:56, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto: Il ragionamento mi sembra logico, basta che renderers, router e altri software funzionino... Il wiki [1] pero' si riferisce sempre a way chiuse: Start by drawing a circular shape... There exist two ways to draw a circle in

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: comunque essere una rotatoria se si comparta come una? comporta intendo... M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: via privata non accessibile

2012-09-28 Thread Federico Cozzi
2012/9/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: -1, credo anch'io che non sia supportato, però che c'entra? Si potrebbe sempre implementare. si potrebbe sperare che i programmatori dei router lo supportino. Però per il momento non sono supportati neanche concetti più diffusi, come ad

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread Davio
Se tutte le strade che confluiscono nell'incrocio rotatorio devono dare la precedenza a coloro che sono all'interno dell'anello rotatorio, allor si può assumere tale incrocio come una rotatoria, in caso contrario no. Davide -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 28 settembre 2012 08:56, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto: Il 09/28/2012 07:54 AM, Davide Ferri scrisse: Per il tuo caso se sei sicuro che la circolazione sia rotatoria (quindi che devi dare precedenza a sinistra) per entrare nella piazza, secondo me puoi sostituire oneway

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread emmexx
Il 09/28/2012 10:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: Se c'è questo cartello: http://www.daringtodo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/rotonda-1.jpg ti togli ogni dubbio. Invece se manca il cartello, secondo voi, potrebbe comunque essere una rotatoria se si comparta come una? Il 09/28/2012 01:53

Re: [Talk-it] rotonda e gestione linee autobus/tram

2012-09-28 Thread Federico Cozzi
2012/9/28 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Io indicherei comunque junction=roundabout: è questo quello che si rileva sul luogo senza ombra di dubbio (c'è il cartello). Aggiungo anche che, in presenza del tag junction=roundabout, un router ben fatto dice alla rotonda prendi la seconda

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: via privata non accessibile

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2012/9/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: -1, credo anch'io che non sia supportato, però che c'entra? Si potrebbe sempre implementare. si potrebbe sperare che i programmatori dei router lo supportino. Però per il momento non sono

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: via privata non accessibile

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/28 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: Rimango del parere che dovrebbe essere uno switch del router: ciclista berlinese rispetta tutti i divieti; ciclista romano ignora i divieti di accesso ecc. non è che i berlinesi rispettano le regole, si girano prima di fare un infrazione per vedere

Re: [Talk-it] via privata non accessibile

2012-09-28 Thread Any File
2012/9/26 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Vorrei un chiarimento sul corretto modo di taggare way e nodi nel caso di una via con cancelli alle estremita' Un esempio e' questo: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/24553475 Sono andato a vedere la via in questione (e le altre simili che partono

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Memorial unveiled for three men killed in Birmingham riots

2012-09-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
Would someone like to map this, in in Smethwick's Victoria Park: http://www.itv.com/news/central/2012-09-28/memorial-unveiled-for-three-men-killed-in-birmingham-riots/ ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Memorial unveiled for three men killed in Birmingham riots

2012-09-28 Thread Mary Mooney
I will have a go next week Mary Sent from my iPhone On 28 Sep 2012, at 15:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Would someone like to map this, in in Smethwick's Victoria Park:

[Talk-se] Quarocopter

2012-09-28 Thread Kristoffer Malmström
Kanske detta vore något för OSM'are? :D http://www.dustinhome.se/product/5010642377/parrot-ar-drone-v2-0-green-ios-android/#intcmp=productbox6_startpage3_WeekendRush_5010642377_120928 ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-se] Quarocopter

2012-09-28 Thread Joakim Fors
Vet inte om den orkar lyfta en bättre kamera som fotar rakt ner. Den som är inkluderar filmar väl bara rakt fram och har väldigt låg upplösning (720p är inte ens en enda megapixel. ;)). Vill man på riktigt satsa (WikiMedia Sweden?!) så är det väl en sådan här som man borde handla:

Re: [Talk-se] Quarocopter

2012-09-28 Thread Tobias Johansson
Kul grej, men tänkte du för flygbilder då eller? Tror inte denna är ett bra val i så fall för den kontrolleras med wi-fi så när du börjar komma lite långt ifrån så förlorar du kopplingen.. Här är en film som säger lite mer om den, kolla runt 6min om du funderar på flygbilder :).

Re: [Talk-se] Quarocopter

2012-09-28 Thread Kristoffer Malmström
Ja det var nog inte mycket att ha :P Den nådde ju knappt ovanför trädtopparna. / Kristoffer Tobias Johansson skrev 2012-09-28 15:00: Kul grej, men tänkte du för flygbilder då eller? Tror inte denna är ett bra val i så fall för den kontrolleras med wi-fi så när du börjar komma lite långt ifrån

Re: [Talk-es] Emergencias

2012-09-28 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday 20 September 2012 13:09:34 Adrián Brito va escriure: A final de mes daremos un curso de emergencias internacionales en Madrid. Me gustaría saber más acerca de Openstreetmap y las emergecias. Si alguien tiene algún tipo de información o presentación se lo agradecería. A parte del

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