Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Thread Harald Kliems
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:17 AM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > What cities allow cycling on sidewalks anyway, seriously ? This sounds so > inadequate. That it is tolerated is one thing, but outright legal or > encouraged ? Makes no sense to me. > In the US

[Talk-ca] Bike infrastructure in OSM

2019-02-08 Thread Harald Kliems
I just learned that US-based bike advocacy organization People for Bikes is going to expand their "Bicycle Network Analysis" (BNA) to the following Canadian cities: Toronto, Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Ottawa, Halifax, Saskatoon, Edmonton, Montreal, Hamilton, Mississauga, Brampton. What is the

Re: [Talk-ca] New MapRoulette challenge to address highway class flip-flops

2019-02-04 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Martijn: I just tried the challenge, and all of the first four tasks that came up produce an "area too big" error in JOSM (long highways in very rural areas). Is there any way to fix this? Or maybe warn people to not use JOSM for this challenge? Harald. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:37 AM Martijn

Re: [Talk-ca] Business Improvement Area tagging

2019-01-09 Thread Harald Kliems
To me this is a clear case of something that doesn't belong in OSM. It sounds like the boundaries aren't verifiable on the ground and may change frequently. Therefore any data in OSM would go stale quickly and the only verification of accuracy would be to go back to the source. Yes, we have

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

2018-02-16 Thread Harald Kliems
See also: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/19609/saint-or-st-is-there-an-official-osm-policy On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:50 PM James wrote: > http://saultstemarie.ca/ > > thats how its written. even on signs to there > > On Feb 16, 2018 3:47 PM, "OSM Volunteer stevea"

Re: [Talk-ca] Meaning of lcn tag - designated route, or any cycling infrastructure

2018-02-04 Thread Harald Kliems
I agree with your interpretation of the meaning of the lcn tag. I suspect this may be a case of mapping for the renderer, where people want bike lanes or other infrastructure to visibly show up on OpenCycleMap or elsewhere. Harald. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:41 PM Mike Boos

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:56 PM john whelan wrote: > Perhaps what we need is a way to tag cycle friendly streets. Typically > I'll use a mixture of minor side streets and paths when using the trike. > > So I'd prefer a routing that used these as much as possible rather

Re: [Talk-ca] Planning mapathon @ McGill in OSM Geo Week

2017-10-25 Thread Harald Kliems
There is a Montreal-specific listserv: Harald (who no longer lives in Montreal) On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:38 AM James wrote: > I think Pierre is a good contact for the local Montreal group. > > On Oct 24, 2017 11:02 PM, "Tim Elrick, Dr."

Re: [Talk-ca] Ferry key on ways

2017-07-17 Thread Harald Kliems
My question would be how the different levels of ferry are defined. What makes a ferry a "trunk ferry" versus a "primary ferry"? Its speed? Capacity? Not allowing pedestrians and bikes? My suspicion is that the classification in the end comes down to which types of roads the ferry connects, which

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

2016-08-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Manohar: It is my understanding that including destinations in the name is an artifact of people tagging for the renderer (and/or tagging destinations at a time before there was an established tagging scheme). If you search through the talk-ca archives, you should be able to find some

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data quality in Canada

2015-06-17 Thread Harald Kliems
A few things I can think of: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:13 PM Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: * Are there any Canada-specific mapping and tagging conventions? - There seems to be a strong consensus that what elsewhere would be highway=unclassified is highway=residential, no matter if the

Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Harald Kliems
A while ago I was also looking for a tag for this type of amenity but couldn't find anything appropriate. I guess in a way they're a type of leisure=playground -- so maybe tag them as that, plus some additional tag (playground=...?) for the fact that they're a water-playground? Or maybe coming up

Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:32 PM Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It's commonly called a splash pad, but tag usage seems scattered. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=splash_pad#values http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_pad If you look at the discussion page of the wikipedia

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season

2014-12-23 Thread Harald Kliems
It sure is -- as long as the postal code is coming from an appropriate source, e.g. a store receipt, a business's homepage, or your local knowledge. Maybe a note about that fact could be added to the instructions. Harald. On Tue Dec 23 2014 at 10:01:50 AM Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-ca] Discussion: zones boisées

2014-11-21 Thread Harald Kliems
On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 8:05:08 AM Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: It all depends on what you think the line that makes up the road itself on the map represents. If it represents a type of land use tag, then the first case makes sense as the land is residential in general, except for

Re: [Talk-ca] Question on CANVEC

2014-07-22 Thread Harald Kliems
Just delete and recreate. There have been several discussions on this list about the data quality of the landuse data and if it should've been imported in the first place (no data vs. bad data). Working with gigantic multipolygons is indeed a pain and I don't think there is any value to preserving

Re: [Talk-ca] Question on CANVEC

2014-07-22 Thread Harald Kliems
to some data) or I guess (no data to PIA data? :-) Andrew aka CanvecImports. aka I guess, one of the offenders :-) On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 09:25 -0500, Harald Kliems wrote: Just delete and recreate. There have been several discussions on this list about the data quality of the landuse data

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec

2014-04-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Just to add to that: The question of coastline versus riverbank is not just a mapping/geographical question, but also a technical one. Because of the length and complexity of the coastline and the requirement to render it at low zoom levels, there is special pre-processing for converting the

Re: [Talk-ca] Seasonal ferry routes

2014-03-10 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Bernie, I believe I looked into this a while ago and came to the conclusion that no routing engine currently supports conditional access. It's possible that this has changed in the meantime. But as there is an approved proposal you should go ahead and add the proper tags, maybe in addition to

Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-10 Thread Harald Kliems
Since this phenomenon is not specific to Canada (see for example http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/29/the-fake-townhouses-hiding-mystery-underground-portals/) it might be a good idea to ask on the general tagging list. I quickly looked up the examples mentioned in the article and didn't see

Re: [Talk-ca] workflow for elevation data

2014-02-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Charles, did you see the elevation profile feature on the Lonvia map? It only works for properly defined trails that have exactly one start and one end point, but in those cases it seems to do what you want it to. See for example here

Re: [Talk-ca] workflow for elevation data

2014-02-23 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Charles, last summer I messed around a bit with trying to get contour lines into my homemade maps for my Garmin GPSr, using SRTM2OSM. Unfortunately, I eventually gave up, as I wasn't proficient enough to in the end combine all the data with mkgmap into one map. There are pretty good tutorials

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2014-01-16 Thread Harald Kliems
I am happy to report that all of Canada should now be free of this issue! I just fixed the last one all the way west in Saint John's. Yay! Harald. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: Some updates on this issue: I contacted Martijn a while ago

[Talk-ca] Motorway_junction ref/exit_to

2014-01-16 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi everyone, while working on the oneway issue on motorway junctions I noticed that there are a lot of exits that lack a number (ref) and destination (exit_to). You can roughly see the extent of the problem here: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/27T Does anyone know of a source for this information

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2014-01-12 Thread Harald Kliems
the progress on the Overpass map. Cheers, Harald. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: So before contacting Martijn I want to be sure that we can properly identify the potentially problematic ways. What we are looking for are ways that match the following query

[Talk-ca] Overpass Turbo has gotten even better!

2013-12-24 Thread Harald Kliems
First the was the Overpass API, a powerful usable only by a few; then there was Overpass Turbo, usable also by folks like me. And now there is a wizard for Overpass Turbo, which should make the tool accessible to an even wider audience: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tyr_asd/diary/20548 Happy

Re: [Talk-ca] Montreal new editor needs help

2013-12-23 Thread Harald Kliems
I reverted the changeset and recreated the POI, hopefully at its proper location. Probably not worth contacting the person, but maybe we should keep an eye on him. Harald. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19598209

Re: [Talk-ca] Les licences Creative Commons 4.0 (CC-BY-4.0 et CC-BY-SA-4.0) est-elle acceptée par OSM

2013-12-17 Thread Harald Kliems
Bonjour Diane, there recently was a discussion of this topic on the OSM-legal list: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-About-CC-4-0-and-ODbl-td5779531.html As per usual, the bottom line is maybe, or maybe not. Harald. 2013/12/17 Diane Mercier diane.merc...@gmail.com Bonjour,

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Bing

2013-12-04 Thread Harald Kliems
Oops, this should have gone to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bing To: Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com Oh no! I haven't seen any announcements and couldn't find anything

Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??

2013-12-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Yeah, I've been looking into that. I'm no Overpass pro either, though, but should be able to come up with something. Bug me again in a couple days if I don't :-) Harald. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: Richard, What I would like

Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??

2013-12-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Okay, so I've done some digging. Unfortunately, the Overpass API does not have a function to identify intersecting ways with a shared node. The only way to find those would be do do an Overpass query for all the bridges and then use javascript to identify the ways that share nodes. I lack the

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2013-11-27 Thread Harald Kliems
: The example I provided yesterday was not fixed. Most the exits having a similar look along the trans-Canada Highway in Quebec are the same. I have also found examples in Alberta and In BC. Daniel *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] *Sent:* November-26-13 10:04 *To:* Daniel Begin

Re: [Talk-ca] Keep Right Error

2013-11-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Adam, has this been a persistent error? I've also spent a while finding the source of the disconnect and couldn't track it down. There seems to be a random boundary somewhere on Cape Breton Island, but all the highways seem to be connected. So I'm wondering if maybe the problem was a temporary one

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2013-11-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Daniel, if you look at the motorway_link page in the wiki ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway_link) you'll see that by default it implies oneway=yes. That would explain the behavior you described. Most motorway_link roads will be one way, and should be tagged

Re: [Talk-ca] Why does a search for Edmonton show the city out in the country?

2013-11-20 Thread Harald Kliems
If you click on View Details you will get to this way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/28295454 I believe the problem is that the way is tagged as area=yes, despite not being closed. And I guess in general it would make more sense to have the city boundaries in a relation, not a way. I'm

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Cycle map

2013-11-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Having biked across that border myself, I can attest that there are indeed mean hills , but nothing quite as bad :-) I suspect that OCM uses two different DEM sources for the US and Canada, leading to wackiness neart the border. Harald. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Begin

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec 10 Data

2013-11-04 Thread Harald Kliems
I think Daniel's email got cut off at the end :-) On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not familiar with imports using Potlatch but importing it using JOSM is quite easy - open the file, select the features, copy then in a new layer and then upload the

Re: [Talk-ca] Where the streets have no name...

2013-11-03 Thread Harald Kliems
there. Let's hope we have some locals to finish the work there. Alright, on to Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville. Harald (who's currently in Toronto and marveling at OSM's data quality downtown!) On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: +1 I've never done real Canvec imports

Re: [Talk-ca] Where the streets have no name...

2013-10-31 Thread Harald Kliems
}}/!--this is auto-completed with the current map view coordinates.-- /query print mode=meta / recurse type=down/ print mode=meta / Pierre -- *De :* Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com *À :* Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com *Cc :* talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Where the streets have no name...

2013-10-29 Thread Harald Kliems
Bruno, thanks for this list! Something to do for me on those cold and rainy fall days... Would it maybe make sense to make a cake with MapCraft to coordinate the effort and avoid conflicts? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapCraft I've never set up a cake, only used ones baked by others, but

Re: [Talk-ca] Offset in Montreal

2013-10-13 Thread Harald Kliems
Bruno, in my experience the difference in offset is not the same everywhere in Montreal. In my neighborhood (Pointe-Saint-Charles) it is only minimal, but in other parts of the city I have noticed larger offsets -- though maybe not as much as 17m, more in the 5m range. Which one is more accurate:

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Larder Lake, Ontario completely missing

2013-10-01 Thread Harald Kliems
-- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Larder Lake, Ontario completely missing To: James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com I've quickly traced the basic street grid based on Bing and Geobase. Improvements

[Talk-ca] Mapping of Lachine Canal in Montreal damaged

2013-08-31 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi everyone, I noticed that someone has damaged parts of the Lachine Canal in Montreal. Between the Saint-Gabriel and the Rue des Seigneurs locks there is only the waterway way and no longer the actual outline of the canal. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.4742/-73.5809 Unfortunately, I

Re: [Talk-ca] Green alleys in Montréal (ruelles vertes)

2013-08-17 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Guillaume, my two cents: since this seems to be a feature that is pretty much unique in Montreal, you'll probably have to come up with your own tagging. I would not introduce a new tag on the service=* level, as these primarily still appear to be alleys and a new tag on that level might break

Re: [Talk-ca] Odd use for OSM data...

2013-07-30 Thread Harald Kliems
Neat! Using only a rectangular bounding box probably wouldn't work that well for Canada, though. Anybody know how to use a border relation with Overpass in order to extract only data from Canada/a province/a town? Harald. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-ca] Accident map of Montreal - using OSM data + MapBox

2013-07-29 Thread Harald Kliems
Side note: Looks like the Mapbox renderer uses an algorithm that shortens common parts of street names, like Boulevard to Blvd or Crescent to Cr. Which in Montreal leads to funny things like Rue Cr and The Blvd... Harald. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org

Re: [Talk-ca] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-09 Thread Harald Kliems
OpenStreetBrowser offers routing and clickable POIs. Higher zoom levels were experimentally implemented on a server by the French OSM community but I think it is no longer online. I can't remember the URL, but you should be able to find the related discussion in the archives of the general talk

Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...

2013-06-26 Thread Harald Kliems
You'll probably want one of those windshield suction mounts, something like this http://www.mountguys.com/Cup_Suction_Mount_for_Garmin_eTrex_Dakota_Oregon_p/mfx-wingn-11023.htm (note that this is just a randomly googled one and I can't comment on the quality). Because they need adjustability and

Re: [Talk-ca] Beta Web site STM / Open Street Map

2013-06-20 Thread Harald Kliems
Looks very nice! But it's too bad that the bus lines/stops are not displayed -- or do I just not see the option? And out of curiousity: is the address search also OSM-powered? I'm assuming it isn't, as address data in Montreal is rather incomplete in my experience. Harald. 2013/6/20 Simon

Re: [Talk-ca] Beta Web site STM / Open Street Map

2013-06-20 Thread Harald Kliems
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org wrote: It seems although the option is not visible, the default search for an itinerary is for bus lines. *If you check metro/train* options, they will be *added* in the itinerary calculation:

Re: [Talk-ca] Highways in Yukon missing

2013-05-29 Thread Harald Kliems
A lot of this was added and modified today by user ajk, who unfortunately does not provide any comments on his/her changesets. So maybe s/he deleted the highways in order to remap? Cheers, Harald. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM, ingalls nicholas.inga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey there, I just

Re: [Talk-ca] Advice on Addressing

2013-05-27 Thread Harald Kliems
Much has already been said. A good tool to collect housenumbers on an Android phone is keypadmapper: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/KeypadMapper I've mostly mapped interpolation lines in my Montreal neighborhood. The problem here is that each apartment has an individual housenumber, meaning

Re: [Talk-ca] New OpenStreetMap web editing option now available, call for funding

2013-05-08 Thread Harald Kliems
Works fine for me on FF 20.0.1 Harald. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Stewart Russell scr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca is up!

2013-04-21 Thread Harald Kliems
First, thanks to Darryl and Richard for taking care of this! I have one quick, easy (I assume), and probably non-controversial suggestion: when I clicked on the link, I got a map of Europe, not Canada. I know that this is only relevant for the first visit but maybe it can be fixed anyway. Best,

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence donnees.gouv.qc.ca

2013-03-15 Thread Harald Kliems
Pierre: Isn't it exactly Richard's point that the fact that they're choosing their own, non-standard licence means that we OSM contributors won't be able to answer your question? We -- or at least most of us -- are mappers, not IP lawyers. So maybe the licence is compatible, maybe it's not.

Re: [Talk-ca] Callsigns...

2013-03-11 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Broadcaster data is part of the public record, Industry Canada has downloadable data here: http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/h_sf09484.html (at the moment I don't have a machine that can deal with MapInfo

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-03 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM. Other data like roads, addresses and even buildings is more useful. Oh, I thought cadastral data would include building outlines? At least that's the

[Talk-ca] New Bing imagery in Montreal

2013-03-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Hey everyone, I've just noticed that the Bing aerial imagery in my neighborhood has changed. We used to have pretty good images but they were from 2007. While doing some edits I noticed that the quality suddenly has gotten much worse and looking at the tile info it now shows that the imagery is

Re: [Talk-ca] New Bing imagery in Montreal

2013-03-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Oh, nevermind. This appears to depend on the zoom level. If you zoom in further you still get the good 2006/2007 pictures. Nonetheless I think the 2011 data must have been added fairly recently. Harald. On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I've

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags

2013-02-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Maybe it would make sense to come up with a consensus of which tags can be stripped. I know that for the US TIGER data JOSM automatically removes the cruft when you edit a way, and we should have this for Geobase/Canvec, too. Harald. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags

2013-02-25 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of a filter in an editor, why not a osm-bot doing this job? Well, actually it appears JOSM is already doing what I proposed: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7915 I'm not opposed to a bot but someone has to

Re: [Talk-ca] Tracé de parcours pour une course?

2013-02-21 Thread Harald Kliems
Fabian, maybe I'm misunderstanding what exactly you're looking for, but why don't you use a service like http://www.GPSies.com to create the routes and then embed the maps on the web page? GPSies offers several OSM-based map layers (with MapQuest as the default). If you already have gpx files for

[Talk-ca] Bus stop names in Montreal / Nom de l'arrêt de bus Montréal

2013-02-03 Thread Harald Kliems
-- désolé, en anglais seulement I've recently started mapping bus stops and lines in my neighborhood. After figuring out the not-that-easy public_transport schema, I've encountered a problem: how to find out the name of a bus stop? Bus stops in Montreal all have a unique, 5-digit number which is

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stop names in Montreal / Nom de l'arrêt de bus Montréal

2013-02-03 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Look for a GTFS for Montreal file that will give you the numbers. Watch the licensing though. Ah, thanks, GTFS was they right keyword. But yeah, the license does not appear to be compatible:

Re: [Talk-ca] Sidewalks

2013-01-29 Thread Harald Kliems
Personally I don't map sidewalks like that but I respect local mappers' work and would not change this, as it isn't really wrong. I don't think there's a strong consensus to map sidewalks merely as attributes of the adjoining road, and there are a lot of problems with that approach, too. E.g. how

Re: [Talk-ca] Environment Canada Forecast Region boundaries released

2013-01-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi David: May I ask why you think it's a good idea to add these to the OSM database? I'm rather skeptical of imports of features that we have no way of verifying on the ground (or otherwise). Yes, there are exceptions to this rule, like municipal boundaries, but still. It's great that Environment

[Talk-ca] Maproulette Canada

2013-01-10 Thread Harald Kliems
Just saw this on the General discussion list: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Happy-New-Year-from-MapRoulette-tp5743713.html After removing 7 routing problems in the US, Maproulette connectivity error fixing has come to Canada! Harald. -- Please use encrypted communication whenever

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadienne ou américaine, cette île?

2012-12-23 Thread Harald Kliems
I saw the coverage in the Gazette this morning and checked the border. We indeed have border=disputed in the database, and it has been like that for quite some time. Nominatim will return the island twice, one with USA, one with Canada as the country. Harald. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM,

Re: [Talk-ca] A30 Section ouest : ouverture

2012-12-15 Thread Harald Kliems
I'm normally car-less but will have a rental car over the holidays. I'll try to take a detour across the new bridge then. I also wanted to add more detailed tagging about the tolls but judging from the wiki there doesn't appear to be an agreed upon system for adding this information.

Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area

2012-12-02 Thread Harald Kliems
Another option to quickly find duplicate ways and routing errors is to use the OSMInspector http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/debug.html?view=routing_non_eulon=-75.82919lat=45.41720zoom=10 Harald. On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com wrote: While uploading edits

[Talk-ca] Montreal: Autoroute 30 opening soon

2012-11-30 Thread Harald Kliems
From today's Gazette: http://offislandgazette.com/news/story/2012/11/29/highway-30-will-open-dec-15/ We already have the route as highway=construction ( http://osm.org/go/cIo9hLV-- ) but maybe someone local with a car get a GPS track soon after the opening and change the tags. I'm not quite sure

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Harald Kliems
Other things you could do: check if the Canvec data has been moved after being imported. As I've said, Bing imagery can be improperly aligned, but not everybody is aware of that. So it's possible that a well-meaning mapper has moved the Canvec data to match the imagery. Did you check your GPS

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-11 Thread Harald Kliems
I've already said what I have to say about the issue at hand in earlier discussion. A more lighthearted remark: whenever I feel depressed about some Canvec-related issue I load up JOSM, pick a random location in the US, and spend half an hour fixing TIGER data. It's a very effective therapeutic...

Re: [Talk-ca] Demande de vérification, question concernant name=

2012-10-31 Thread Harald Kliems
I've run into similar issues. Street signs vary a lot, sometimes on the same street, a good (and maybe extreme) example is Bord-du-Lac/Lakeshore on the West Island. There are English-only signs: http://goo.gl/maps/Q4wQR , bilingual ones (that leave out the Drive in English)

[Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi everyone, I've done some OSMInspector debugging of areas around Montreal and I've come across a number of newly imported natural=wetland areas, sourced from Canvec 10. that are clearly wrong. This, for example, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.69514lon=-73.90455zoom=17layers=M is a

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Pierre, thanks for the response. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr wrote: I dont know how you conclude that there is no wetlands around this area in Laval. It is not sufficient to see houses around to conclude that there is no wetland. These are often

[Talk-ca] News: Google mapping the North

2012-08-23 Thread Harald Kliems
http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/all/Putting+North+Google+recruits+Northerners+help+with/7131985/story.html (may be paywalled) -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x199DC50F ___ Talk-ca mailing list

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed mechanical edits: GeoBase/CanVec Service Surface and GeoBase/CanVec name spaces

2012-08-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Paul, did you ever get around to doing this? I was recently adding a bunch of street names based on Geobase along the St. Lawrence between Montreal and Quebec City and I noticed that there are still lots of streets (and house number interpolations) with the double blanks. And can somebody

Re: [Talk-ca] USGS Orthos in Canada

2012-08-09 Thread Harald Kliems
That's indeed some nice imagery. In the area I looked at, the QC/NY border south of Montreal, it doesn't extend all that far into Canada but it's nice nonetheless. If you look at the list linked from the wiki page ( http://cumulus.cr.usgs.gov/dispatches/PRODUCT_Orthos.html ) there don't seem to be

[Talk-ca] CFB Borden and Meaford

2012-08-03 Thread Harald Kliems
While browsing the map I noticed that the CFBs Borden and Meaford show up on the standard Mapnik mak in very low zoom levels (z=6). http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.28lon=-80.06zoom=6layers=M The reason appears to be that they're tagged as place=city. According to the wiki this tag should be

Re: [Talk-ca] redaction bot coming soon!

2012-07-19 Thread Harald Kliems
Yeah, I'm also not sure if I interpret the data correctly, but it looks like nothing was deleted on the Montreal Island?? That would seem rather suspicious to me -- or did I just miss a giant remapping effort happening in the last few weeks (admittedly, I haven't been doing much for OSM recently)?

Re: [Talk-ca] Oil Pipeline?

2012-06-27 Thread Harald Kliems
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:13 AM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Steve Roy st...@ssni.ca wrote: What's the best way to be able to show there is a trail where the pipeline is?  Can I just add a highway/trail on top of the existing pipeline? Or? Does the

[Talk-ca] Coastline rendering in Quebec

2012-06-07 Thread Harald Kliems
On the talk-ca list there have been a few discussion about problems with flooded areas in southern Quebec. The conclusion seems to be that the problems are due to the rendering of the coastline which only gets updated every once in a while. The two cases are: *

Re: [Talk-ca] Images satellite Bing Montréal et Québec

2012-06-07 Thread Harald Kliems
Just to add to this: in the Montreal area the alignment of the Bing imagery in my experience is very good. It is nonetheless a good idea to always also download the GPS tracks and make sure the images match those (and the Canvec import data). Harald (who has done a lot of aerial imagery-supported

Re: [Talk-ca] New flooding between Alexandria and Montreal

2012-05-31 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Andrew: that's actually old flooding, visible only at certain zoom levels. We've had a discussion about it a while ago http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2012-April/004674.html Since the issue still persists I'll try and see if I can contact anyone who will be able to fix it.

Re: [Talk-ca] More Digital Globe content coming to Bing Maps

2012-04-30 Thread Harald Kliems
That's great news. Let's hope the accuracy of the new images will be good. For checking the age of Bing imagery, see here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing#Age_of_the_aerial_pictures No idea if this will work with the new images (and apparently it wasn't all that accurate with the old ones

Re: [Talk-ca] Quebec's Bermuda Triangle

2012-04-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Frank: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Frank Steggink stegg...@steggink.org wrote: The triangle is probably caused by the shapefile which is used for rendering the coastline at levels 9 and below. This shapefile isn't updated very often. I believe it is a different one than the file used

Re: [Talk-ca] Killarney Lake, Fredericton, NB

2012-04-10 Thread Harald Kliems
In the link you sent it does render, but not at lower zoom levels. I've manually set the tiles to dirty (see here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_Map#Mapnik_tile_rendering ) and that has fixed the issue (you might have to reload with Ctrl-F5 to get rid of the cached image) Best, Harald.

Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up progress and last push

2012-03-31 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Okay, so, u. Wow! I've been looking around with the OSM Inspector to see how the license clean up is progressing elsewhere. I'm currently collecting some GPS data in preparation for fixing Verdun which is the worst

Re: [Talk-ca] Re : Clean up progress and last push

2012-03-31 Thread Harald Kliems
2012/3/31 Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr: Since I work more for developping tools, I am not as familliar as many of you about re-mapping procedure. I need clear ODBL Safe instructions on how to redraw areas like in Verdun where large portions have to be redrawned. This morning, I was

Re: [Talk-ca] Re : Fwd: Re : Clean up progress and last push

2012-03-31 Thread Harald Kliems
Pierre: Merci pour l'avis. I will retrace right away (just got back from a ride along there). Harald. 2012/3/31 Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr: Avis aux cyclistes du Québec. À partir de minuit les chemins, nodes etc qui ne sont pas sous la nouvelle licence ODBL disparaitront.  Vérifiez

Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM

2012-03-20 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:21 AM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a big supporter of imports, but if you are going to use them, you should use and verify all of them, not just some bits. I'm not sure if there

Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM

2012-03-19 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: highway=service with access=no or access=private then. Many service roads aren't open to the public. If the road is there and is a service road, it's mappable. I'd like to add, though, that there is a problem with

Re: [Talk-ca] Closed Road Tagging

2012-02-25 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: Access=no is rendered at lower zooms but when you look at the map for a trip planning, you don't zoom that much! I don't think that's an argument against tagging it with only access=no. I do agree, however, that highways

Re: [Talk-ca] Re : Closed Road Tagging

2012-02-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Daniel, 2012/2/25 Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com: Le problème est qu'il n'y a pas de construction sur la route. J'utilise ce tag seulement lorsqu'il s'agit d'un vrai chantier... For this reason, I still think that access=no is the cleanest solution, no matter what mapnik renders. The only

[Talk-ca] Named railway locations

2012-02-20 Thread Harald Kliems
We recently had a discussion on the talk-ca list about named railway locations that had been tagged as railway=station (see this thread). It was proposed to take the discussion to the tagging list in order to come to a consensus that's consistent and in line with other countries. To quickly

Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands

2012-02-13 Thread Harald Kliems
From: James A. Treacy [tre...@debian.org], Monday, February 13, 2012 9:48 AM: This begs the question: are there any reasons to merge areas like wooded areas or lakes that are broken up? I find the fine grid that shows up on Mapnik at lower zoom levels to be pretty irritating (e.g.

[Talk-ca] Potential copyright infringement

2012-02-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi everyone, I need help with a potential copyright infringement. I stumbled across this user's edits today http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Gicl . S/he has primarily added street names in St. Amable, but also adding a source=google. I've just sent the user an email explaining the situation

Re: [Talk-ca] Balloon Mapping

2012-01-26 Thread Harald Kliems
It's a neat project. Does anybody know what the rules in regulations about this are in Canada? Same as in the US? I know in Germany this would definitely not fly (har har). Best, Harald. From: Colin McGregor [colin.mc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 7 and lanes=-1 / surface=unpaved

2012-01-20 Thread Harald Kliems
Okay, so the lanes=-1 is definitely wrong and I guess I'll just delete/correct it whenever I come across the tag and hope over time it will get sorted out. I guess aside from substitution with correct data, there's not much to be done about the unpaved issue. Thank for the input. Best,

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