[Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread john whelan
Looking at my local map in Orleans Ontario noticed that Merkley Drive does not connect up to Charlemagne. Merkley Drive is tagged Geobase_import_2009 and all sorts of interesting things. Charlemagne is just tagged potlach and residential road. Is there an easy way to extend Merkley Drive so it

Re: [Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread john whelan
can provide that. The system that imported the roads didnt want to interfeer with what work previous people did. Cheers, Sam On 10/25/09, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at my local map in Orleans Ontario noticed that Merkley Drive does not connect up to Charlemagne

Re: [Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread John Whelan
that a script could drag in the rest of the tag values? This would probably mean having a pure geobase OSM map somewhere that could be used to pick out these values. Thanks Cheerio John James Ewen wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:43 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: What

Re: [Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread John Whelan
hands on the GeoBase data and start copying tags over if they want. The Roadmatcher Excluded files listed in the import spreadsheet represent the roads that were already existing in OSM. It looks like James beat me to the reply, but hopefully this also helps. Adam On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1

Re: [Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread john whelan
/ overlapping roads, and even stuff like one-way dead ends. There are many different checks, which will all help us improving the data in OpenStreetMap. Frank [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/ John Whelan wrote: I found both James's and Sam's comments very useful.  It gives me a much clearer

[Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-27 Thread john whelan
As far as I can see there are three of us in Ottawa. One hasn't done anything for a couple of years, one started in July 2009, I've started very recently. I don't think there is a mass of GPS tracks on which the maps are built. In two sample areas I've seen major discrepancies between my Garmin

[Talk-ca] Formal proposal to replace the existing Ottawa information with Geobase information.

2009-10-28 Thread john whelan
This is purely local and it does not impact any other parts of Canada. If you have been involved in creating the existing map and have input please input it now. I'm under the impression that locally so far there is not a major community effort going on with map parties etc which would be

Re: [Talk-ca] Formal proposal to replace the existing Ottawa information with Geobase information.

2009-10-28 Thread John Whelan
n Canada and I think the decision should be a local one. So far I have not seen any input from some one doing OSM mapping in Ottawa. Cheerio John Gerald A wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I accept that just because Geobase data is from th

Re: [Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-29 Thread John Whelan
Let's recap, I've seen no substantiation for the statement that thousands of hours of work will be lost. I've seen nothing from any one else who has done any GPS traces in Ottawa. I've seen two different places where the existing OSM map is 100 meters out from a GPS measurement. Basically the

Re: [Talk-ca] Number of Mappers in Ottawa mail got munched

2009-10-29 Thread John Whelan
Thank you some meaningful numbers on mappers at least which was not immediately apparent. So it looks as if we'll just have to wait until the mess gets straighten out. I found two on OSM, one wasn't active and the other, Marc Sensei, didn't respond. My premise of just dropping in the Geobase

Re: [Talk-ca] Number of Mappers in Ottawa mail got munched

2009-10-29 Thread john whelan
...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM, John Whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: So it looks as if we'll just have to wait until the mess gets straighten out. Do you have any idea what happens if we ALL take that attitude? There is no them in OSM, it's an us type community. I found two

[Talk-ca] Addr:country

2009-11-13 Thread john whelan
I was playing and added some postcodes in. I can now search on postcodes but they come up as country USA. K4A 1M7 is one if any one wants to try. Rather than have many people have to tag addr:Country CA which I assume is the country code on each address could the default become Canada in Canada

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-16 Thread john whelan
Multiple approximations can often be very accurate when averaged. We had an NMR machine on the 1st floor ( UK so twelve feet from the ground) that was fine until they built a four lane highway in the air outside. Lorries carrying steel do have cause problems to sensitive magnets. However we

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [CivicAccess-discuss] NYTimes - Local Governments Offer Data to Miners

2009-12-07 Thread john whelan
We need more bars on OSM. Cheerio John -- Forwarded message -- From: Tracey P. Lauriault tlaur...@gmail.com Date: 2009/12/7 Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] NYTimes - Local Governments Offer Data to Miners To: civicaccess discuss civicaccess-disc...@civicaccess.ca Local

Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca : français/québ écois...

2010-02-11 Thread john whelan
At the moment OSM Canada has fewer resources available than is desirable. The problem with technical translations is how do you deal with updates? And in the case of French much of the work has already been done. May I suggest you talk nicely to openstreetmap.fr and add on a few Canada specific

Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca : français/québ écois...

2010-02-12 Thread john whelan
laptop, it should automatically translate.) My guess is that it will be 75% accurate, which is still OK for me :-) Sam On 2/11/10, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: At the moment OSM Canada has fewer resources available than is desirable.  The problem with technical translations

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [gvcc-members] Google Goes Bike with Directions

2010-03-10 Thread john whelan
Yes but do we have software that can work out a route for cyclists or pedestrians or bus and pedestrians yet? Cheerio John On 10 March 2010 03:30, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: G... But you cant print Google Maps in Books, nor can you create custom Garmin Maps Iphone

[Talk-ca] PR stuff Ottawa Opendata Sat 24th April

2010-03-10 Thread john whelan
http://opendataottawa.ca/ It's at City Hall and it looks like the press will be present. It's local so I could pop down. However having just me without a laptop, or banner probably wouldn't do much good. Any suggestions? and no I don't have access to a colour printer to print a banner etc.

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [gvcc-members] Google Goes Bike with Directions

2010-03-11 Thread john whelan
layer it will route based on that. http://www.bikemap.net/ Also, for Garmin MapSource with using - OSM Worldwide routable, it does a great job routing cyclists :) http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php Cheers, Sam On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Talk-ca] PR stuff Ottawa Opendata Sat 24th April

2010-03-12 Thread john whelan
Not quite they have some sort of wiki set up here which I picked up on a few minutes ago. Go and add your ideas in here, some people are actually asking for things that we can do. http://opendataottawa.pbworks.com/Open-Data-Ottawa-App-Ideas Cheerio John On 12 March 2010 14:01, Stefan Monnier

[Talk-ca] Orleans

2010-03-24 Thread john whelan
To the east of Ottawa exists the district of Orleans. All roads are actually within the city of Ottawa. Orleans has never existed as a municipal entity, only for Canada Post, essentially it is a collection of postcodes. The correct Postal address for streets and roads is Orleans. Should the

Re: [Talk-ca] Orleans entering and finding addresses

2010-03-25 Thread john whelan
where K1E3P6,ca gets its information to point to the wrong place so this can be corrected? Thanks John On 25 March 2010 08:31, Adam Glauser adamglau...@gmail.com wrote: john whelan wrote: So whose definition of a City do we use? Perhaps 'place=suburb'(1) would work? This is how

Re: [Talk-ca] Orleans entering and finding addresses

2010-03-25 Thread john whelan
Just to add complexity K1E3P6,ca has now returned the correct location on the map. Looking in JOSM the postcode on that address is entered K1E3P6 and not as K1E 3P6. Thoughts? Thanks Cheerio John On 25 March 2010 09:26, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Geonames postcode doesn't seem

[Talk-ca] Canadian postcodes

2010-03-26 Thread john whelan
If I do a search en3 6rg,gb it returns a UK location correctly. en36rg,gb also returns the same results. For Canada k1e3p6,ca returns a lcation but k1e 3p6,ca does not. Can this be fixed please? Would some one like to give some guidelines on entering Canadian addresses please. Many thanks

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian postcodes

2010-03-26 Thread john whelan
It would seem the pragmatic approach would be to enter postcodes without the space for the moment, and have a script run down them all if ever it gets sorted out. Cheerio John On 26 March 2010 09:16, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 March 2010 14:11, john whelan jwhelan0

[Talk-ca] script for changing existing CA postcodes?

2010-03-26 Thread john whelan
Would it be possible for someone to write a script and execute it that went through the OSM database and where country=CA change the format for the existing post codes to remove the space to make them searchable? If some one could point me at a bit of sample code I could probably write the

Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Welcome to MyTTC!

2010-03-28 Thread john whelan
Ideally, I'd like to model an entire transit system. Doable, either by yourself or in a team effort. Get yourself a copy of TS2010, the background can be brought in as DEM there are tools to do this. Scenery objects we have about 100,000 free ones so one or two should be suitable and if they

[Talk-ca] Data imported from Geobase_Import_2009 and tags

2010-03-29 Thread john whelan
Could some one have a look at any of the roads that have been imported in this way especially in Orleans. They appear to have a tag of Ontario Canada but no city tag. Should Ontario Canada be two tags? Looking at the roads it Ottawa the city center seems to be Potlatch created again there is no

Re: [Talk-ca] Data imported from Geobase_Import_2009 and tags

2010-03-29 Thread john whelan
with that leaving off city etc. Thanks John On 29 March 2010 12:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:28 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Makes a lot of sense but currently it seems very difficult to search for an address. Are there any pragmatic

Re: [Talk-ca] Announce: TrailHead Ontario with OSM

2010-03-31 Thread john whelan
I'd be very interested in the PDF notes if they could be made available by April 20th. Thanks John On 31 March 2010 17:39, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Patrick just let me know that at the TrailHead conference, june 21st -25th, in Toronto, ON he reserved 45

Re: [Talk-ca] Newbie to the Canadian mapping scene looking for examples of well mapped areas

2010-04-13 Thread john whelan
A purely personal point of view. I like the footpaths, Google doesn't have these. I'm not so sure about the houses as a block. I'd be more inclined to drop in street numbers in post code blocks using addr:interpolationhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:interpolation . for example

[Talk-ca] new planet.osm

2010-04-21 Thread john whelan
Currently I'm chatting to a group of opendata people. Terribly enthusiastic people but they don't seem to be looking at the entire picture. One downloads a file called new planet.osm from http://planet.openstreetmap.org/and complains because its 8 gigs of compressed data (uncompressed they're

[Talk-ca] http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/agency/oc-transpo/

2010-04-21 Thread john whelan
There seems to be a collection of bus stop data here for different cities including Ottawa. Any idea who is putting it up or if there are any scripts for import etc? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ca] http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/agency/oc-transpo/

2010-04-24 Thread john whelan
a couple of more steps to go. Hopefully that will clear up the license uncertainty and give the public an official OC Transpo data set. I'll keep you posted. -Tom On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, john whelan jwhelan0

[Talk-ca] Opendata group Analysis

2010-04-24 Thread john whelan
They had a meeting in our city hall today. What they appear to be doing is taking a list of locations in a spreadsheet format such as drinking fountains then overlaying them on top of Google maps using an icon. Moderately lightweight stuff that needs little understanding of the data but can be

[Talk-ca] Is it time to set up a openstreetmap.ca organization / registered charity?

2010-04-27 Thread john whelan
It could look after things such as the Openstreetmap.ca domain, forward a few dollars into europe keep the servers going, possibly raise a few dollars to purchase a couple of GPS devices for street mapping parties, even send a few to Africa etc to help Openstreetmap over there. The Charitable

Re: [Talk-ca] Addressing in Canvec.osm

2010-05-12 Thread john whelan
Not all street numbers are used even in the suburbs. For example in Ottawa houses with 50 foot lots have their numbers incremented in fours not two. I don't think it matters too much the interpolation will give you an approximate location which can be corrcted by some one on the ground if there

[Talk-ca] Ottawa has voted to release its data.

2010-05-12 Thread john whelan
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/05/12/ottawa-open-data.html It will probably take some time before we can digest it but it looks like it should be available soon. Cheerio John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa has voted to release its data.

2010-05-12 Thread john whelan
at 2:15 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/05/12/ottawa-open-data.html It will probably take some time before we can digest it but it looks like it should be available soon. Cheerio John

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Ottawa OpenData and Geographic Information Systems (GIS)

2010-05-12 Thread john whelan
Ottawa City organised a hack fest around open data. You've probably seen some of my posts as I scrabbled to at least get them to look at alternatives to Google. The ability to display road names in both languages turned out to be something that was commented favourably on. It was done using an

Re: [Talk-ca] Why are streets named with name in Canada and not street=xyz?

2010-05-25 Thread john whelan
: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to work out why Nominatim finds some Canadian streets or roads and not others. Nominatim suffered a crash some time ago so it is running on an old database. The maintainer is aware of the problem and hopes

Re: [Talk-ca] 040P16 - Orangeville

2010-06-02 Thread john whelan
You may wish to download JOSM and do a few corrections. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Josm Thanks John On 2 June 2010 16:48, G. Michael Carter mi...@carterfamily.ca wrote: Hey I can see my house in there! Amazing job!! Looks great. Few things I found so far. Data is out of date

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM CanVec.

2010-06-04 Thread john whelan
I thought the whole idea of importing was to just automate loading data. Then it can be cleaned up on the map. If you are suggesting manual intervention by the importer by checking against satellite and other images aren't you defeating the purpose? Cheerio John Looks good, much better than

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Bus stops

2010-06-09 Thread john whelan
The GTFS system has seperate files for bus stops and routes. If you can tag the bus stops with the number that's fine, it also has the long and lat for all the bus stops. http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/agencies scroll down and you'll see the specifications. Cheerio John On 9 June 2010

Re: [Talk-ca] I'd like to run something to add a French street name tag in Ottawa

2010-06-20 Thread john whelan
...@weait.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:54 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Basically restricted to Ottawa (how?) If highway and no tag name:fr exists and second word in name is street then add tag name:fr first value is rue + first word from name Note lower case rue here

Re: [Talk-ca] I'd like to run something to add a French street name tagin Ottawa

2010-06-21 Thread john whelan
(not crossiant) - Christian Caron -- *From:* talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] *On Behalf Of *john whelan *Sent:* June 20, 2010 18:54 *To:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap *Subject:* [Talk-ca] I'd like to run something to add a French

Re: [Talk-ca] I'd like to run something to add a French street name tag in Ottawa

2010-06-22 Thread john whelan
at 6:54 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Basically restricted to Ottawa (how?) If highway and no tag name:fr exists and second word in name is street then add tag name:fr first value is rue + first word from name Note lower case rue here. If that one works correctly

[Talk-ca] user Guibone

2010-06-22 Thread john whelan
How can I contact this user? They appear to have incorrectly named at least one local school. Thanks Cheerio John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [transit-developers] Re: DC: Talk to Metro officials about open data

2010-07-11 Thread john whelan
The interesting comment here is the one about the indemnity provision, it appears licensing is an issue for Google as well. Cheerio John -- Forwarded message -- From: perkinsms perkin...@gmail.com Date: 10 July 2010 22:13 Subject: [transit-developers] Re: DC: Talk to Metro

[Talk-ca] CANVEC data for Ottawa

2010-07-17 Thread john whelan
How do I find it and is it available yet? I suspect it isn't. Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC data for Ottawa

2010-07-17 Thread john whelan
methods. Cheers, Sam On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:28 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: How do I find it and is it available yet?  I suspect it isn't. Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC data for Ottawa

2010-07-17 Thread john whelan
to join the channel. There's not really an account managing system that you have to sign up with. OFTC does have nickserv support, but it's optional (I think). Adam On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have an idiot guide on how to do this?  I've picked

Re: [Talk-ca] Off Topic - Four way stops - possibly of interest to cyclists

2010-07-28 Thread john whelan
with such traffic calming in place. They are also common and never discount institutional intertia. Corey On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:55 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I was talking to a cyclist a month or two ago at some planning thing or other and they mentioned that four way stop

Re: [Talk-ca] Joining Trails to roads.

2010-07-29 Thread john whelan
I use IE with http://keepright.ipax.at it finds all sorts of things that need correcting but you can limit it to pick out these. Getting hold of all the editors in a particular region, very unlikely some only edit for one session for a start. Cheerio John On 29 July 2010 09:24, G. Michael

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC Comments

2010-07-29 Thread john whelan
Sounds simple but Shift-J doesn't seem to do anything, they don't quite overlap. What is a duplicate node error and how do I fix it? Thanks John - Select the data all along the boundaries of the tile. - Use the JOSM Validator on the selection. - Fix all the duplicate node errors. - Select

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC Comments

2010-07-30 Thread john whelan
there are no duplicates. Sent from my iPhon On 2010-07-29, at 7:56 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds simple but Shift-J doesn't seem to do anything, they don't quite overlap.  What is a duplicate node error and how do I fix it? Thanks John - Select the data all along the boundaries

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC Comments

2010-07-30 Thread john whelan
On 7/30/10, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Well I now know a little more about JOSM and Validator but I still haven't quite worked out how to merge the two parts of the building. Thanks John On 29 July 2010 21:35, Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com wrote: If you draw a selection box over where

Re: [Talk-ca] Merging CanVec data, updating status

2010-07-30 Thread john whelan
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Import_process Says where the spreadsheet is. However I got an error when I tried to add another line in on the bottom, it has got too large. So it needs breaking up. Cheerio John On 30 July 2010 10:01, G. Michael Carter mi...@carterfamily.ca wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC Comments

2010-07-30 Thread john whelan
Found it in JOSM, you have to select the nodes then split way is available at the top of the tools menu. Thanks all Cheerio John On 30 July 2010 10:29, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:19 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm feeling thick today

[Talk-ca] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread john whelan
How does this align with importing data from CANVEC by merging with JOSM then uploading? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread john whelan
Thank you. Cheerio John On 12 August 2010 07:18, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:35 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: How does this align with importing data from CANVEC by merging with JOSM then uploading? OSMF negotiated with NRCan

Re: [Talk-ca] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread john whelan
how I don't think we are ready for the first end users yet. Cheerio John On 12 August 2010 07:18, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:35 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: How does this align with importing data from CANVEC by merging with JOSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Searching for addresses...

2010-08-13 Thread john whelan
Address searching is done by different software. Nominatim http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim is the usual one. Maperitive has its own find for local maps. It now looks as if Canadian postcodes are supported via Geocoder.CA which is a big improvement, they were only supported before if

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: GeoBase vs CanVec

2010-08-23 Thread john whelan
The CANVEC tiles contain the full street name. Ottawa has a number of streets that were imported from Geobase that did not include a street name, contained abbreviation or only part of the name. This maybe because of the way the import was done but the CANVEC data seemed cleaner in this regard.

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: GeoBase vs CanVec

2010-08-23 Thread john whelan
data available and some of the roads were not as close as one might like, which of course caused problems as the import process sought to protect existing data. Cheerio John On 23 August 2010 17:59, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, john whelan wrote: The CANVEC

Re: [Talk-ca] Adressing

2010-08-27 Thread john whelan
The note came from me, the problem is two fold, the first is every section of a road junction gets addressing information so a slip road that is 20 meters long perhaps gets addressing information when it has no buildings and the addressing information contains either 0 or -1 this basically adds

[Talk-ca] Meet up Ottawa on Friday evening

2010-09-01 Thread john whelan
It will happen and so far it looks like we might have half a dozen people, but I don't have a time or place yet. If you can make it email me and I'll let you know more details as soon as I get them, if you have a suggestion for time and place email me as well. Thanks John

[Talk-ca] ridethecity.com

2010-09-05 Thread john whelan
I understand its based on OpenStreetMap but does any one know any much about it? Is it implemented in any Canadian cities? Do I assume that roads would have to actually be joined for this or any routing program to work? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing CanVec

2010-09-12 Thread john whelan
The CANVEC data is available her ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub Read this page first: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec especially the bit about the tiles. I would suggest you load up a tile in JOSM then hit the download arrow to bring in the same area from OSM. I usually resize

[Talk-ca] CANVEC 6.0 OSM Files leisure=sport_centre

2010-09-13 Thread john whelan
I think according to wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features it should be leisure=sports_centre Cheerio John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa - OpenData - Map Feature Catelogue

2010-09-23 Thread john whelan
I'm not certain what the point would be if the licensing doesn't line up. What would be nice would be if some one could take one or two of the data sets, flip it into OSM format and email it to me. That way I can merge it with a copy of the cities OSM data on a USB stick and show a couple of

Re: [Talk-ca] Where's the Canvec data hiding these days?

2010-09-24 Thread john whelan
Your link worked for me 30 seconds ago. Cheerio John On 24 September 2010 20:40, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to get to the canvec data for 3 days now using this URL: ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub I was pretty sure that you could get into there with a browser

[Talk-ca] Rendering rules and tagging paths and hard shoulders for cycles

2010-09-28 Thread john whelan
I realise there is some differences of opinion on this but I'm looking for guidance. Locally we seem to have a number of these tagged in different ways. CANVEC appears to tag some of them as highway=footway wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Paths seems to have a wide range of acceptable options,

Re: [Talk-ca] Rendering rules and tagging paths and hard shoulders for cycles

2010-09-28 Thread john whelan
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/3017259090/] or [http://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton/2319965160/]. Good to include photos of what you're thinking of. Adam On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:46 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I realise there is some differences of opinion

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [CivicAccess-discuss] Fun Stuff - Mapping Stereotypes

2010-09-30 Thread john whelan
European and you need to scroll down to see them all. It may give some helpful background to understand comments in OSM talk otherwise totally irrelevant to Ca-talk. http://alphadesigner.com/project-mapping-stereotypes.html?ref=nf Cheerio John -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [Talk-ca] Sask road network

2010-10-17 Thread john whelan
Have a look at the CANVEC OSM data available for importing, use JOSM select then merge. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec Nominatimhttp://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/will find post codes but not individual houses. CANVEC has address ranges in some provinces. Cheerio John On 16

Re: [Talk-ca] Sask road network

2010-10-17 Thread john whelan
Road names are available in Canvec for Ontario at least. Cheerio John On 17 October 2010 08:06, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote: On Sat, 16 Oct 2010, Jamie Figursky wrote: Hello, I noticed that that the road network for Saskatchewan has gaps (Oxbow area and others).

Re: [Talk-ca] UBC, Vancouver orthography, and street alignment

2010-10-31 Thread john whelan
I was under the impression that the City of Vancouver Open data along with Ottawa's and Calgary's wasn't quite open enough for OSM use. I assume you aligned with CANVEC data and merely visually confirmed it against Vancouver's data? I understand they were looking at changing the license, if you

Re: [Talk-ca] [nzopengis] Re: python script to find duplicates

2010-12-05 Thread john whelan
An example is locally CANVEC still has a rail line that it was taken out some time ago. Cheerio John On 5 December 2010 03:54, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (sorry if im a broken record) I know that Daniel and the NRCan-CanVec data team are desparatly trying to figure

Re: [Talk-ca] Fire Hydrant Data for Toronto

2010-12-17 Thread john whelan
Check the license on this data very carefully their idea of Open currently doesn't align with OpenStreetMap. They have a working group looking into the matter currently. Also have a look at the road system where you are thinking of importing. If its a mish-mash of GPS, Satellite traced then the

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import

2010-12-31 Thread john whelan
Probably the best thing to do is wait for commonmap. Cheerio John On 31 December 2010 11:50, Olivier Hill olivier.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I would like to remind everyone not to blindly import CanVec tiles on OSM. I have recently seen tiles uploaded blindly, duplicating nodes and

Re: [Talk-ca] all our addresses are belong to you

2011-03-02 Thread john whelan
There is a fair amount of address information in the CANVEC files. Cheerio John On 2 March 2011 15:55, flambe...@gmail.com flambe...@gmail.com wrote: MapQuest is providing several address files that contain user-provided latitude and longitude locations across the world. Our users provided

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec vs. GPS

2011-03-06 Thread john whelan
Being cynical I'd tend to favour CANVEC they tend to have spent more money on their GPS units. Cheerio John On 6 March 2011 20:44, Samuel Dyck samueld...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone I am presently preparing a careful import of Canvec data into Mantario area. I have stumbled across a trail

Re: [Talk-ca] Batch transformation from rcn_ref=1 to Route

2011-03-10 Thread john whelan
One technique is simply to use JOSM, select the ways you want to modify then add the tag to all the ways in the selection. You can also delete tags in this way as well. Just be aware that standardization seems to be a word that OSM is not always comfortable with. The other technique if you are

[Talk-ca] height data

2011-05-27 Thread john whelan
There seems to be considerable interest in flooding recently. The UK has a government site http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/wiybyController?ep=maptopicslang=_e that shows the risk of flooding for a particular area. How would you obtain / insert height data into OSM? Thanks John

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-06 Thread john whelan
Acting on your advice I accepted the new CT. On looking more deeply into the subject I note that I have retrospectively allowed OSM to license anything I have ever added to the map in any way they wish. Currently it is odbl but the CT allows anything, the license seems to be an ever changing

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-06 Thread john whelan
added were added under the terms he agreed to and retroactively changing his mind and deleting everything is not an acceptable option. Your unilateral actions have impacted more than just your data. That is what John should do. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:21 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-07 Thread john whelan
this consent. --G On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:50 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: No at the time the data was added there wasn't a problem. The problem arose when the new CT retroactively changed the previously inserted data. Cheerio John On 6 June 2011 18:30, Gordon Dewis gor

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-07 Thread john whelan
Treat his edits as vandalism and proceed accordingly. Virtual ban When a contributor is subject to a 'virtual ban' (see notes above) then all their past work may be removed and all new work will be reverted without review until they possibly contact the Data Working Group and request a review of

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-07 Thread john whelan
that have been manually surveyed back in later. Thanks Cheerio John On 7 June 2011 13:24, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I would be extremely happy to see all my edits removed. Earlier you said that you were

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-07 Thread john whelan
begun. I have looked at some of the features deleted and some of them only list him in the history when he deleted them. -Original Message- From: Samuel Longiaru longi...@shaw.ca Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:34:44 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-07 Thread john whelan
. -- *From: * john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:32:11 -0400 *To: *gor...@pinetree.org *Cc: *Samuel Longiarulongi...@shaw.ca; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan? some of them only list him in the history when

Re: [Talk-ca] Ping John Whelan?

2011-06-08 Thread john whelan
I tend to be very conservative, there shouldn't be any problems but some data I have a verbal OK for CC-by-SA but CC-by-ODBL was not understood. Cheerio John On 8 June 2011 11:49, Gordon Dewis gor...@pinetree.org wrote: No problem... I don't have any qualms about the data vis-a-vis the various

[Talk-ca] Finding buried treasure in OSM

2011-06-13 Thread john whelan
Just something for a rainy day if you have a local .OSM file lying around. Within OSM sometimes things get lost. A bus stop gets tagged amenity=bustop rather than the recommended way on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features. The problem is that this particular bus stop will remain

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sharrows (On-road markings for bicycle-automobile shared lane)

2011-08-19 Thread john whelan
In Ottawa we have paved shoulders which show up on the city's cycle maps as recommended. You can tag them but the normal rendering doesn't really show them on a cycle map. I set something up using Maperitive

Re: [Talk-ca] BC Open Data License compatibility

2011-09-04 Thread john whelan
The issue with using data like this with OSM is when you contribute it under the new contribution terms you accept that OSM can change the license at a later date. Practically speaking it makes it impossible to respect any other license so currently only PD data and things you have explicitly

Re: [Talk-ca] BC Open Data License compatibility

2011-09-07 Thread john whelan
No, it was put in because we didn't want to have a rerun of all this mess if something better came along next time. Steve Unfortunately it had implications that don't seem to have been thought through especially for imports which I think are important for Canada where we seem to have lots of

Re: [Talk-ca] Imported frustrations

2011-10-06 Thread john whelan
It is a major problem, hopefully some one will run a bot and at least take out the duplicate imports. Many mappers only think in terms of paper so if it looks OK on a render then its OK. In Ottawa which is smaller and easier to handle we had a meeting of local mappers who some time ago because

Re: [Talk-ca] Imported frustrations

2011-10-06 Thread john whelan
It's not just the imports, even mappers adding roads, footpaths etc. from GPS tracks often do not join their work to existing roads and ways. at least the CANVEC imports do link the road sections together. Cheerio John On 6 October 2011 20:04, Adam Dunn dunna...@gmail.com wrote: I think this

[Talk-ca] Building the infrastructure

2011-10-07 Thread john whelan
choosingourfuture.ca has been looking for ideas and running polls etc. http://choosingourfuture.ca/get_involved/haveasay_results_en.html#P47_2075shows the categories http://choosingourfuture.ca/get_involved/campaign_ideas_en.html#11 shows the most voted for water whatever was an app that showed

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