Hi All,
Has anyone tried the GPS on the new cheap "Hudl" tablet Tesco launched the
other week?
I'm just starting to venture into the modern world and have been trying out
some of the android apps related to OSM. Many of these require a reasonably
good GPS chip, which seems to be slowing me down a
Yes they do provide data available under the Open Government Licence. See
Owen's comment on:
http://data.gov.uk/data-requests/list-of-grade-i-and-ii-listed-buildings-in-england
As for the tagging, "listed_status=Grade II" is in line with what others
have used. A quick google shows that "website:h
Hi All,
Thanks for those that have helped so far. I am now in contact with a OSM
sys admin to get these maps up on a tile server (for subsequent use in the
OSM editors).
Out of interest, OSM servers are able to create tiles "on the fly" as long
as it is provided a raster image that is geocoded. T
>>
>> Corner coordinates are now displaying, allowing these to be aligned &
>> adjusted to fit. Have fun!
>>
>>
>Are the configuration files available already somewhere or is there a plan
>to make them available so users of the maps could just load the maps rather
>than having to align themselves w
Oh I should add that I am a fan of source tags on the objects myself so I
add a "source:postcode=Land Registry 'Price Paid' data" tag (or =ONS
Postcode Centroids) to my edits. Not everyone agrees that source tags
should be added to the objects, preferring instead to add them to the
changeset commen
re also attributed on
the Copyright page [2] and the page makes it clear that you should see the
Contributors page for the other sources.
Best regards,
Rob Nickerson
[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Land_Registry_-_Price_paid_data
[2] http://www.op
> is or to move and get a better plan together.
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 09 July 2013 21:13
> *To:* Andy Robinson
> *Cc:* Oxford, Oxfordshire and the Cotsw
> As the deadline for poster printing has gone, is there a possibility to
> get a print during the conference e.g. from a USB stick (like we did at
> FOSSGIS)?
>
> Yours, Stefan
>
>
> 2013/8/25 Rob Nickerson
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Two deadlines for State of
Hmm, that's odd as I seem to see it fine with and without my google
account. Anyone else able to confirm this for me please?
The programme will be making it's way onto Lanyrd soon so you should be
able to view it there. Lanyrd has a great website designed for mobile
devices (and a dedicated app) s
Hi All,
== SOTM Final Programme ==
After a lot of hard work and many long hours the final programme for State
of the Map 2013 is now available to view at
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/info/programme/
This will also be copied over to Lanyrd in the coming days and the
preceding text updated on the
Hi All,
Two deadlines for State of the Map to be aware of:
== 1. Posters: ==
We are offering to print (free of charge thanks to ITO World) A1 sized
posters for display at SOTM. This is ideal for people who want to share
something with the community but are unable to attend.
Our print deadline fo
Hi All,
To get you excited for State of the Map in 17 days time, we have launched a
photo competition to find the most usual object / sign / situation found
whilst surveying.
You don't need to be attending SOTM 2013 to enter this competition so head
over to the blog post [1] or wiki page [2] to f
The hotel booking link I failed to attach is:
http://kx-web-live.aston.ac.uk/
Cheers,
Rob
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Hi All,
Just a quick update on the Hackday following SOTM 2013:
If you need somewhere to stay on the Sunday and/or Monday night, Conference
Aston Hotel have kindly extended our discount code. Please book online at
[1] using the discount code in the confirmation email you received when you
signed
Hello Talk-GB,
We could do with a few more volunteers helping out at SOTM 2013 (6th-8th
September, Birmingham). The tasks will range from manning the front desk
(general enquiries), helping the presenters with setting up, and keeping
the conference running to schedule. Nothing too strenuous and yo
Hi All,
SOTM 2013 is now only 4 weeks away!! For information on signing-up,
submitting a poster and/or attending the post SOTM hackday, please see the
sections below.
== Register to attend ==
If you're planning to come and have not yet signed up, what are you waiting
for? If you head over to the
Robert W said:
>That being the case, please note that Ordnance Survey have recently stated
that their "OS OpenData licence is not forward compatible with the ODC-By
and ODbL".
Yes, they did, and that quote has gotten them in a lot of trouble. The Open
Government License (of which Ordnance Survey's
>I created this in QGIS comparing the OSM data to the PRoW released from
>Durham County Council, I created a special query using intersects. This is
>why it's not perfectly accurate because if an OSM mapped math intersected
>with the PRoW data it would show up green, even though it may not be that
Hi both,
Those are some really neat ideas! I hope you are thinking about sharing
them at State of the Map in September ;-) We have a theme of "change" this
year and one of the areas I am interested in is how we manage external data
sources. Public Rights of Way are a great example as it poses seve
Great work, and thanks to Andy for his work re-writing the rendering rules
in CartoCSS.
I'm forwarding this to the general "talk" mailing list as I expect there
will be some not Brits who will be pleased to hear about the progress on
this one. My understanding (from watching Andy's presentation an
> I'd like to be able to run through all issues of the Bartholomew half inch
> series but even the ones already available are a start.
Lester,
Are you aware that Bartholomew half inch maps for Scotland, England and
Wales are available online at http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/ ? If yes,
then can
t
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
> ------
> *From:* Steven Horner
> *To:* Rob Nickerson
> *Cc:* histo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, 13 July 2013, 18:18
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Historic Maps - Can you help?
>
> I've
Hi All,
I have been speaking with the National Library of Scotland (NLS) about
their large collection of historic maps. Currently they provide a online
collection of historic maps as set out on their website [1]. Some of these
are georeferenced and can be used in OSM [2]. There is lots more left t
Sounds like a good plan :-)
And thanks both for making me hungry!!
On 8 July 2013 17:45, Andy Robinson wrote:
> Yes, in the West Mids group a while back we mulled the idea of doing a
> joint
> meet with our southerly brethren on Oxfordshire.
> We are proposing Saturday October 5th in Banbury
Hi all,
Another month another update from your State of the Map organising
committee. :-)
June has been a really busy month for - we have been busy reading through
all of the presentation proposals submitted. The quality this year has been
fantastic and it was impossible to decide what to rue out
That was my "Plan A" when I contacted Defra. Unfortunately their response
didn't really consider it properly. It sort of flirted round the edge -
very public sector like!!
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Dear All,
Some time ago I wrote to you about the process by which notice of changes
to Public Rights of Way are distributed to Ordnance Survey and other
interested third parties.
These third parties are listed as "Prescribed Organisations" in Appendix A
of [1].
Based on your comments, I contacte
Hi All,
I'm aware that some within our community are very cautious of so called
open data. As I'm not in any way qualified to assess legal jargon I can't
provide much support. I can however notify you that the Open Government
Licence has now been updated to make it more explicit that the OGL is
co
Hi List,
A short update for those still following the OS OpenData Licence story:
http://data.gov.uk/library/minutes-of-open-data-user-group-11-june-2013
Summary: The issue is supported by ODUG and is being progressed by them.
For now its a waiting game.
Regards,
Rob
Nick,
The more options we have as organisers of SotM, the better. I personally
would love to hear more about this (and no doubt will chat to you during
one of the breaks).
Rob
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Hi All,
The Call for Presentations for State of the Map 2013 closes Monday*. If
you've not yet submitted your presentation proposal please act quickly.
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/info/call-presentations/
I posted some ideas in recent SotM blog posts to get you thinking. These
were:
- What
Lancashire CC have a good description of what a "private" street is:
http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/atoz/a_to_z/service.asp?u_id=1065&tab=3&siteid=5409&pageid=29027&e=e
As Nick said, a Private road often simply means that it has not been
adopted by the Local Authority and therefore any m
On 1 June 2013 00:30, Paul Norman wrote:
> Does this include poster exhibitions?
>
>
No, the posters option will stay open after the call for presentations
closes, but we do encourage people to have a go at presenting if they can
attend in person. We're a great community and it's always nice t
Hi Everyone,
So the "Early-bird" tickets for OSM's State of the Map conference are now
all gone :-( Did you get one? If not don't worry, normal tickets remain on
sale* and you can still get a GBP10 discount if you join the OSM
Foundation. It's worthwhile joining the foundation and attending the
co
Less than 24hrs to sign up for an "Early Bird" 25% discounted State of the
Map 2013 ticket. Get yours now and join over 80 people who have already
signed up:
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/info/booking/
See you there,
Rob
Organising committee volunteer,
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Try here:
http://www.thehs2.com/
Thanks Barry :-)
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Hi All,
Tickets for OpenStreetMap's "State of the Map 2013" conference in
Birmingham, England, are now available. They can be purchased at a
discounted "Early Bird" rate but only until the end of May. Get yours at
http://www.stateofthemap.org/
Looking forward to s
>I guess one question might be, would it be a good idea to distinguish
between statutory and non-statutory designations?
The simpler the tagging, and the easier it is to explain, the more likely
it will be used as you intend. So, although this may be a good idea, it
would need some supporting text
Urrgg.. It was [0] that all Natural England "open" datasets (with the
exception of Local Nature Reserves), were plain OGL licensed and could
therefore be used. Looking again, it seems like NE have now added that
annoying line at the top of the OGL licence that seems be be raising a few
eyebrows:
"
Hi All,
I've previously written about the monthly releases of Land Registry Price
Paid data as these datasets are a great source of address details and are
available under OGL. Matt Williams has already done a good job pulling this
data into his Postcode Finder [1]. This is a nice tool that attemp
Hi All,
- please forward this on to your local communities -
It's that time of year again when we look to you, the mind-bogglingly
creative OpenStreetMap community, to tell us what you've been up to. That's
right - it time to submit your presentation ideas for the annual State of
the Map conferen
Yep, as others have noted, the Green Sign = Trunk Road is the age old
convention. If you want to add details about who maintains the road you can
use operator=Highways_Agency (the second highest use of the operator tag
apparently [1]). We don't have a tag for indicating that the signs are
green (he
Maybe we should be advising that for all imports the original files are
kept somewhere safe.
Rob
On 18 April 2013 19:57, Oliver Jowett wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Rob Nickerson
> wrote:
>
>> Or perhaps a comparison between the old and new NaPTAN data wou
>
>I would not, therefore, support updating OSM with another NaPTAN import in
my local area.
>
Agreed that a blanket import would be a poor option, but surely a tool that
would show comparisons between the new NaPTAN data and OSM data would be
useful? Or perhaps a comparison between the old and ne
Hi,
The issue of how to update imports is an important one. For this years SotM
(in Birmingham, September) we have a theme of "Change", with one of these
areas of change being how do we go from being map data creators to map data
maintainers.
I would love to see ideas put forward for this in the
All,
Whether you care for public sector data released under the OS OpenData
Licence or not, this will probably effect you one way or another. Can I
therefore request that you please submit a comment in support of the data
request available at the link below.
This is especially true if you run a b
Hi,
As Andy noted, the JOSM button is probably the best option. Alternatively
as there are not too many, you can use the Overpass XAPI without restring
to a geographic region. Simply paste the following URL into a browser, save
the resulting file with the .osm extension and open in JOSM:
http://w
The conclusion seemed to be to add the reference in the same format as used
by the Local Authority. Some include the parish name, some also include FP
for "footpath" etc. As your data is from a Parish level it's unclear
whether the Local Authority will include the parish name before any numbers
- a
Brian,
The list was of invalid postcodes. Hopefully everything you entered was a
valid postcode (it seems that way given that only 3 invalid B27 postcodes
appear in the list).
Rob
On 12 March 2013 22:37, Brian Prangle wrote:
> Aidan
>
> I've had a look at your list and would say it's way und
ble so that's why they are
> listed. It also includes postcodes in lowercase as well since it breaks
> from the convention of uppercase postcodes, you could argue that they
> should be in or out, but it was easier to leave them in.
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0
Interestingly out of the 95 you also identified 2 postcodes that are
incorrect in OSM... raising the obvious questions:
* How accurate is the data already in OSM?
* Should imports be compared to 100% accuracy or a more realistic measure
of OSM accuracy?
Rob
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Hi Andy,
Aidan approached the talk-gb mailing list last month about this postcode
idea [1]. A discussion was held, and from the back of this several changes
were made (mainly related to reducing the size of the import to ensure that
only the very best data was used, but also to ensure that QA was
Hi All,
Do we have any guidelines for use of the OSM brand? I'm aware that the
OSM-GB "issue" gets raised every now and then but hadn't realised until
today how easy it is to get confused between OSM.org and OSM-GB - see for
example the OSM-GB wiki:
http://www.osmgb.org.uk/osm-gb-wiki/index.php/M
Thanks Robert,
That's very useful and interesting advice. I'll have a proper read when I
get a bit more time.
I think just getting the info is a good starting point. We can then go out
and survey the paths thus removing any of OS's IP rights. We would just be
picking the LA's path reference and t
Hi All,
In regards to public rights of way and the relationship between Local
Authorities and Ordnance Survey, see my recent blog post:
http://opendatauser.posterous.com/loacal-authorities-in-bed-with-the-ordnance-s
I would be interested if anyone with knowledge of the legal system has an
answer
I've updated the wiki with our first real problematic right of way.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Problematic_rights_of_way
Thanks,
Rob
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Hi All,
As noted, all problematic rights of way should be brought to the attention
of the relevant local authority. It may also help if you record the details
on the following wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Problematic_rights_of_way
(alternatively, send me the details and I'll upd
and hear any arguments from either camp. Either way, "lane=1" is
probably a must. And ideally we need a "not really recommended" / "avoid
unless the alternatives are just as bad / far out of the way" type tag. As
far as I know we don't have one. :-(
Rob
On 23 Jan
nderstanding of
what these roads are actually like on the ground - photos welcome too)
Rob
On 23 January 2013 19:17, Kevin Peat wrote:
>
> On 23 Jan 2013 18:58, "Rob Nickerson" wrote:
> >
>
> > ...
>
> Thanks for that. Any thoughts on wheth
In regards to "Other roads with public access" (ORPA) - this is a term that
the Ordnance Survey have used, in other places they are called
"Unclassified County Road". Most often they are legally the same as a
normal road (and should therefore appear in the Local Authorities list if
streets, in whic
I would imagine that this would add a fair number of postcodes, and
although those interested in address lookup can just use the centroid
database without needing to go to OSM, this requires knowledge of the
database (which non-UK developers might not have) and does not link
postcodes back to addre
Hi Matt,
I'm getting results from other cities in the "Land Registry tool". Should
this apply the same +- 0.1 degrees logic? Would also be nice if you could
add the "edit this way in external" links (like those on a way's page on
OSM.org).
Cheers,
Rob
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Hi Aidan,
Sounds like you have thought this through to ensure that this "import" will
work well in practice. I would be more satisfied if imports were to closed
ways with building=* only (as mentioned by others).
Have you seen the Land Registry 'price paid' open data that includes
addresses and p
e:
> Not that Essex have released their data, so I’ve not had to worry about
> this, but wouldn’t this be an argument for prow_ref and prow_name? Or even
> prow_ref and name?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 04 January 2013 1
I agree that if there is a choice for prow_ref such as:
801FP1
Abbots Bickington Footpath 1
then I would use the same as the councils interactive map. If this isn't
possible I would prefer written parish names rather than codes. That is
prow_ref=Abbots Bickington Footpath 1
Rob
Barry,
Local government regions in England can be very confusing. For public
rights of way the responsibility of legally collating these on the
Definitive Map and Statement lies with those regions that are “surveying
authorities”. This is the same as the 152 (151 if you exclude the “City of
London
I find that quite often it helps to pull up the historic map layers. Here
is a screenshot showing the route of the "road" as shown on OS 25k 1st
series map:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bOXEtZE1XY01zcEE
(I'll try to keep this up online for a few months)
The local authority would si
Arg! We were converging on "prow_ref" when I last looked at tag info a few
months back. Perhaps I should have checked before changing the wiki!!
Seeing that I have now updated the wiki (and it really doesn't make a shred
of difference) does anyone have an issue if I change the existing
"prow:ref"
After 2026 a public right of way will only exist if it appears on the Local
Authorities "Definitive Map". This means that irrespective of what is on
the ground, the legal right of way is that shown on the legal Definitive
Map.
What does this mean for OSM:
* As noted "designation=public_footpath"
Apologies that this was never added to the wiki page, but you are correct
we discussed prow:ref and prow_ref. I believe tag info suggests we are
converging more on prow_ref=* so will update the wiki to reflect this.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_access_provisions#Public_Rights_of_Way
Rega
Brian,
Thanks again for all your work to date with organising the Birmingham bid
for SOTM (not forgetting the others who have been involved up to now as
well).
>For the bid document we need your name/OSM name and a brief 2-3 sentence
>biography like the one already added by nickw, lastgrape/grego
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/10086205.Tribute_to_Queen_safeguards_Oxpens_Meadow/
>
>I've added the name of the meadow mentioned in this article, but does
anyone
>have a suggestion how to tag that it's been designated a QEII Field? I'm
>not actually sure what it means, even after reading
>http:
All,
I have emailed the government department named in the article asking for
clarification of the license. Will keep you updated.
Regards,
Rob
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As noted the resolution is not ideal, but the issue with gaps / overlaps
between the areas is a rendering error on the telegraphs website only. The
main issue however is the lack of clear licence. Perhaps try contacting the
Department for Communities and Local Government and asking them.
As for a
Hi Nick,
Fantastic work. Looking forward to seeing the Android app.
Unfortunately I don't get down to Hampshire that often any more so can't be
of much help. I did however have the please of meaning one of the gents
from Hampshire CC (annoyingly I can't find where I wrote his name down) at
a rece
Hi Robert,
The odd statement on ONS's website seems to be more related to the Northern
Ireland part of the dataset. If you see the full statement on the licenses
page then it states clearly that the data is available under OGL (see
below). The same statement is also made in the download file itsel
Yep, the Natural England datasets are of good quality. Just one word of
warning the Local Nature Reserves data is not OGL licensed so cannot be
used. All others are ok for use in OSM - I'm slowing doing Millennium
Greens working from the North down one by one so not as to mess up any
existing data
(Re-posting the following on this list in case anyone saw Andy's message
and wanted to attend. The more the merrier).
Hi all,
Just a quick reminder that the next meet-up is _this_ Thursday in Coventry.
Apologies for the delay in confirming a location - we had a few suggestions
this time that requ
Dear All,
The "can you / can't you" Ordnance Survey OS OpenData takes a step in the
right direction. As previously noted we were unclear whether the additional
clauses OS added to the standard Open Government License caused any issues
for OSM. A clarification from OS cleared this up for data relea
Hi All,
(This is a cross post on talk-gb and my local mailing list - please try to
respond to talk-gb)
As you may be aware from my previous mail, the Land Registry is now
releasing 'price paid' data under an OpenData licence. This provides a
fantastic source of address to postcode data. A request
I don't think anyone was questioning the authenticity of the claim (rather
the motive of one of the authors given the padding he used around this
claim).
As Andy says, it is up to everyone to decide for themselves. Perhaps this
could have been raised a little earlier so that people were aware and
Hi All,
Just a quick heads up that the Open Data User Group (supported by UK
Government) as asking "what data do you want". If interested there are
details of the initiative and a simple form to fill out:
http://www.data.gov.uk/odug/overview
http://data.gov.uk/node/add/data-request
Cheers,
Rob
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Dear List,
For those who do not read the tagging or talk mailing list, please see the
following proposal [1] for how to tag advanced access restrictions. The
proposal is currently under a 2 week voting period (too short in my opinion
for people who do not regularly read the wiki/mailing lists).
M
- Craig wrote: -
I have just come across a user (Peter Wright [1]) adding his own
recommended routes across open access land in Scotland, for example
Changeset #12151621 [2]. His routes are actually published in a book
"Walking in Wilderness", available at your favourite bookseller for
the
Hi All,
I am pleased to announce that Norfolk County Council have decided to
release their Public Rights of Way "Definitive Statements" under the Open
Government Licence. These are available as searchable pdfs and have been
kindly hosted by Robert on his website [1]. I am also investigating the
po
The reason designation=unclassified_county_road is described as obsolete on
Robert's page is that there is legally no such thing (unlike public
footpaths, etc.. which are included in the legislation - CROW Act 2000).
When I updated both [1] and [2] this designation was not on the wiki page
and hen
Stephen Gower wrote:
>On the other hand, Royal Mail are trialing doing their own GPS surveys of
>properties:
>http://www.royalmail.com/customer-service/pinpoint-positional-data-capture
>The cynical amongst us wonder if this is to make the postcode database a
>100% Royal Mail product with no dange
use.gov.uk/en_output.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb-westmidlands/2012-August/001110.html
Regards,
Rob
On 31 August 2012 12:17, Rob Nickerson wrote:
>
> The other problem with the Companies House data is that there is no clear
> statement of the licence other t
The other problem with the Companies House data is that there is no clear
statement of the licence other than "free". Come on CH please be more
specific!
Rob
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== Matt wrote ==
This does indeed seem like a very useful data source. Great find!
However, I'm struggling to think of a nice way of visualising it to
make it useful. What I've got so far in my mind is:
- Take an entry from the list
- Take its postcode
- Search for the postcode (I've got a cur
UK_Postcodes
>
> On 28 August 2012 10:04, Tom Chance wrote:
>
>> On 28 August 2012 00:44, Rob Nickerson wrote:
>>
>>> What I have in my mind is to grab each months data release from land
>>> registry (thus building up a good database of address + postcode
ork, though more accurate and what is needed by the
> geocoders.
>
> There are websites out there such as CycleStreets that are successfully
> using the CodePoint Open data for geocoding in addition to other OSM data.
>
> Shaun
>
> On 27 Aug 2012, at 23:18, Rob Nickerson
Hi All,
Please correct me if I am wrong, but to the best of my understanding we are
still struggling to find a good source of postcode data under an open
licence. From what I understand the CodePoint data set is currently seen as
not available for use in OSM.
That is where this data set available
Adam Wrote:
>It's totally confused me, so in the bit of UK countryside I edit I have added
>tons of ways with highway=footway tags through woods, fields etc, when in fact
>I am pretty sure they should really be highway=path tags. I realised this a
>little while ago, so this thread is timely.
>
Hi All,
Following on from my email dated 03/Aug/2012 [A], I have received further
notice from Worcestershire CC as follows:
-- Start Worcestershire Email --
I had this reply from the OS yesterday about use of the PROW data:
In simple terms the OpenData licence requires the following:
- Ac
Hi All,
I see that Wigan Council have listed their public rights of way interactive
map as Open Data (Under the Open Government Licence). At the moment I can't
find any easy way to get at the raw data - suggestions welcome.
http://www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/CouncilDemocracy/PerformanceInformation/
Hi All,
I am happy to confirm that I have received confirmation that the PRoW data
held at [1] is available under the OGL licence. This data is the digitised
Definitive Map, and is provided as a WMS map service. This can be viewed
online (through [1] or [2]), alternatively it can be opened in QGIS
Hi David,
Word of warning, from what I can remember the Local Nature Reserves data is
NOT part of the OGL licensed data and therefore cannot be used in OSM
(unless its license sets out conditions that are compatible wit osm - i
don't think it did).
I have looked at these datasets, many of which a
Hi All,
Good news on the local council front. Lambeth council is looking to open up
all (excluding confidential data) the data they hold [1]. This is fantastic
news and somthing other councils should try to follow. They know that this
will be a big task so are looking for people to send in request
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> Presumably these were the original conditions to get the funding? Having
> mapped Ardleigh Millennium Green since the start of this thread I know that
> has a playground, or at least “play equipment”. There are also photos of it
> on the parish council website[1]. So I'm guessing this has been
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