Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22

2010-05-16 Per discussione Carlos Tirona
This sounds good. And thanks for keeping my request in mind, Eugene! Unfortunately, I will be out of the country on the weekend of the 22nd. Please let me know if we can. Resched to another date - weekday, perhaps or on another weekend. I've yet to figure out how to upload the correct data

Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem

2010-05-16 Per discussione Ray
Hi, this topic is discussed every now and then. Facts are free, but you can't use the help of copyright protected material. If you only copy one house/street/whatever maybe that doesn't matter. But what if all of us are doing this? You end up with a 100% copy of the map and than even you will

Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem

2010-05-16 Per discussione Totor
Hi Craig, I saw this question several times here and there and can not agree completely. I think that Facts/Locations can not be copyrighted indeed, but maps can. It takes quite a lot of work to represent the locations of items accurately on maps. It's much easier to copy from an existing

Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem

2010-05-16 Per discussione Craig
Hi, everyone. Thank you for your comments. I do appreciate them all, and I respect you all for giving them freely. I will, of course, follow OSM guidelines to the letter, and will in no way jeopardize all of the hard work that has been done before my very recent arrival. I am, like many, simply

Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem

2010-05-16 Per discussione maning sambale
Many people already argued that copying from aerial imagery is not governed by copyright law. Case law proved it: http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100 However, Google terms of use explicitly do not allow this: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/google-mapmaker-and-openstreetmap/ That said,

[talk-ph] CloudMade Services Are Now Free

2010-05-16 Per discussione maning sambale
In case anyone here is interested to create revenues out of OSM data and clodmade services: http://blog.cloudmade.com/2010/05/16/cloudmade-services-are-now-free-%e2%80%93-sign-up-today/ The original post is inaccessible at the moment. Copy pasted the content here: CloudMade Services Are Now

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CORINE Land Cover 2000

2010-05-16 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
I fail to see why there would be a problem, legally, to import CORINE if the license is compatible. IGN/NGI would not be a party in this, as the EEA licenses CORINE. If it would be actually useful is another matter altogether. I think it would look nice on lower zoom levels, and could be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CORINE Land Cover 2000

2010-05-16 Per discussione Nicolas Pettiaux
I know a former director at the Belgian IGN/ING who retired very recently. I'll call him to know how to proceed to have the best and most effective results. Could you please help me by writing all elements (in the OSM wiki) that could help to support the fact that IGN should release its data

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CORINE Land Cover 2000

2010-05-16 Per discussione Lennard
On 16-5-2010 22:34, Renaud MICHEL wrote: Well, there's no harm in asking, but as you say it seems compatible with the actual CC-By-SA (but I have no idea for ODBL). I just learned the question went out, but we have not received an answer. That's not so strange, with Ascension Day and a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CORINE Land Cover 2000

2010-05-16 Per discussione Lennard
On 16-5-2010 22:35, Martijn van Exel wrote: I fail to see why there would be a problem, legally, to import CORINE if the license is compatible. IGN/NGI would not be a party in this, as the EEA licenses CORINE. The NGI/IGN reference is for the CLC 2006 dataset specifically. The 2006 dataset is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CORINE Land Cover 2000

2010-05-16 Per discussione Lennard
On 16-5-2010 21:47, Lennard wrote: The amount of changes between CLC 2000 and CLC 2006 is on the order of 0.5% over the entire covered region. The overwhelming amount of polygons would be unchanged. I think there's not much harm in working with CLC 2000, even if it is 10+ years old. To

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CORINE Land Cover 2000

2010-05-16 Per discussione Ben Laenen
On 5/16/10, Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com wrote: If it would be actually useful is another matter altogether. I think it would look nice on lower zoom levels, and could be useful as a starting point for individual mappers to improve upon, but more detailed data may already be available

Re: [OSM-talk] is there an open database of places?

2010-05-16 Per discussione Jukka Rahkonen
Patrick Aljord patcito at gmail.com writes: Hey all, . Would it make sense to have a seperate DB that would store all places? Is there already a project that does that? http://www.geonames.org/ ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-16 Per discussione john whelan
It might be worth looking at Maperitive, its new, in beta but does some very nice things like export bit map and a SVG export command is planned. The really nice thing is though that since it can work with either a local file (save an OSM file from JOSM) or on the web linked to the OSM database

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frieder Ferlemann
Hi, Am 15.05.2010 22:15, schrieb Robert Martinez: This isn't a first draft - maybe there is room for changes if decision makers like an OSM design team (or similar) decide to use my contribution. p.s.: I think it is naive to think that it is possible to create a logo that everyone likes.

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-16 Per discussione Sami Dalouche
This kind of project is definitely exciting ! However, I still think it is meant to be used by advanced users, and I would first like to focus on achieving the simple use case of loading the GPS with some data, without detailed control of the exact area nor the rendering. (I think it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-16 Per discussione Sami Dalouche
Hi, OSMAustralia is awesome, and it's exactly the kind of simple user-centric website that I think is useful for end-users. However, I am not sure of what are you suggesting me. How do you see uniting/combining/linking/organizing all those hundreds of small projects without creating a new fresh

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-16 Per discussione Sami Dalouche
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 18:53 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: Hi, On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sami Dalouche sko...@free.fr wrote: snip So, if you already have all the rendering machinery in place, I would be happy to create the scripts to regularly go fetch the

Re: [OSM-talk] is there an open database of places?

2010-05-16 Per discussione Sami Dalouche
Please note that there is a project called Gisgraphy : http://www.gisgraphy.com/ It already provides importers for Geonames data, as well as a REST API to access it. I am currently creating a java client for this (http://github.com/samokk/gisgraphy-java-client ), but it is still not really

Re: [OSM-talk] Help to import Rio de Janeiro city data to O SM - misaligned shapefiles

2010-05-16 Per discussione Jukka Rahkonen
Arlindo Pereira openstreetmap at arlindopereira.com writes: ... Now, moving on to the second question: the largest shapefile (Quadras.shp, with the streets and the blocks) has 68 MB, and after conversion (and two hours later) it becomes a huge 416 MB .osm file, and I can't open it with JOSM

[OSM-talk] older GPS Tracks not displaying in Potlatch

2010-05-16 Per discussione Dave F.
Hi Older gps traces (10 months+) don't appear to be displaying when I click on The Icon (G) in Potlatch. They're still listed in GPS Traces are PUBLIC. Is there a time limit for their visibility? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Robert Martinez
On 05/16/2010 02:40 PM, Frieder Ferlemann wrote: I added a draft for a decision table here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/Logo If the table is the cause for more conflict than it solves, well, then the table doesn't help:) Feel free to edit. Greetings, Frieder

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Frieder Ferlemann wrote: I added a draft for a decision table here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/Logo If the table is the cause for more conflict than it solves, well, then the table doesn't help:) Feel free to edit. What logo are we talking about? I understand that

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Robert, Robert Martinez wrote: There has to be a design department for OSM with authority and competence [...] My conclusion is a plea to the project management: please try to find a capable design team as soon as you can! Do you know *anything* about OSM at all? Do you have *any*

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione SteveC
On May 16, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Robert, Robert Martinez wrote: There has to be a design department for OSM with authority and competence [...] My conclusion is a plea to the project management: please try to find a capable design team as soon as you can! Do

Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclopath wiki bicycle map

2010-05-16 Per discussione Reid Priedhorsky
Steve Bennett wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Reid Priedhorsky r...@umn.edu wrote: Anyway, I mostly wanted to say hi and let you all know we are here. If you have any questions, ask and I will reply here on the list. Hi Reid. Just wondering if/when this project will expand outside

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Robert Martinez
On 05/16/2010 06:35 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Robert, Robert Martinez wrote: There has to be a design department for OSM with authority and competence [...] My conclusion is a plea to the project management: please try to find a capable design team as soon as you can! Do you know

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frieder Ferlemann
Hi Frederik, Am 16.05.2010 18:33, schrieb Frederik Ramm: I added a draft for a decision table here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/Logo If the table is the cause for more conflict than it solves, well, then the table doesn't help:) Feel free to edit. What logo are we

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-16 Per discussione Lambertus
On 05/16/2010 01:57 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, such a project would be useful. I suggest you get in contact with some of the people already running something similar, e.g.: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php That project has selectable maps, a mapsource installer and

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Kai Krueger
He's just pointing out what I did a few months back - the design, usability and aesthetic of OSM is a big mess. My vote is that we just put him in charge of fixing it, but I don't really want another fight with all of those who know little about, er, design, usability or aesthetic. If we spent

Re: [OSM-talk] older GPS Tracks not displaying in Potlatch

2010-05-16 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Dave F. wrote: Older gps traces (10 months+) don't appear to be displaying when I click on The Icon (G) in Potlatch. They're still listed in GPS Traces are PUBLIC. Is there a time limit for their visibility? Potlatch pulls them down 10k (IIRC) at once to avoid boggling the server too

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Steve, SteveC wrote: He's just pointing out what I did a few months back - the design, usability and aesthetic of OSM is a big mess. My vote is that we just put him in charge of fixing it You want someone to fix the OSM design and usability whose main area of competence seems to be making

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione SteveC
On May 16, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: He's just pointing out what I did a few months back - the design, usability and aesthetic of OSM is a big mess. My vote is that we just put him in charge of fixing it, but I don't really want another fight with all of those who know little

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki contributions (was: new logo)

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Kai Krueger wrote: There, we really could use some great designers, marketing and PR folk, journalists or who ever else feels up to the task of presenting OSM to the newbie in an appealing and accurate way to make sure they understand how the project works and how they can contribute.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki contributions (was: new logo)

2010-05-16 Per discussione jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: for API changes. Give them stars and badges and stuff. I'm sure Wikipedia has something we can learn from in this respect? Great Idea, here is my suggestion

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki contributions (was: new logo)

2010-05-16 Per discussione Gregory
Outdated and not used for a while... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Awards On 16 May 2010 22:02, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.orgwrote: for API changes. Give them stars and badges

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione SteveC
On May 16, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: About your things have gotten old an crusty - do you remember how many million times in the API 0.3 or 0.4 days we had some GIS acolyte parachuting in and treating us like idiots because we weren't using PostGIS but MySQL instead? Did we

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki contributions (was: new logo)

2010-05-16 Per discussione SteveC
On May 16, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Kai Krueger wrote: There, we really could use some great designers, marketing and PR folk, journalists or who ever else feels up to the task of presenting OSM to the newbie in an appealing and accurate way to make sure they understand

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki contributions

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, SteveC wrote: Only a large scale change is going to fix that, bar a few things that you've already shot down like having a feedback tab. Something so obvious and easy to do that I've been asked multiple times why on Earth we haven't done it. As you surely have been told already, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki contributions

2010-05-16 Per discussione SteveC
See this is what I'm talking about. Why not instead of listing your reasons why it would be impossible, why don't you say I don't know steve, it might work, let's try it for a week and see what happens? If you say that you will be my hero, I'll send you a I love you bean and give you a big

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione SteveC
On May 16, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Time for a data model czar and throw away all this backward looking shit of tagging freedom? Well if you think about it Frederik, I was the data model czar. You mean that to keep pace with Waze and Google Map Maker, we should simply drop

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Robert Martinez
On 05/17/2010 12:51 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Steve, SteveC wrote: I think we should probably vote that person in. But sitting around saying it looks like clipart gets us utterly nowhere. All that does is piss the guy off, and he clearly knows a lot more design than you or I do, or are

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Robert Martinez m...@mray.de wrote: Hello OpenStreetMappers, I would love to offer a special contribution to the project: a new logo! Here is my blogpost: http://freegital.de/osm-logo-proposal Here is the presentation:

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/16 SteveC st...@asklater.com: As for why this is better, anyone who has printed t-shirts, conference material or worked in branding will tell you, as I already have that the current logo: * has too many colours * doesn't scale * is too busy * isn't brandable to a colour scheme

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-16 Per discussione Roy Wallace
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:47 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I would expect from a new logo to be 1 individual and unique 2 meet all the technical and graphical requirements for a logo 3 tell a story / symbolize the idea of OSM 4 possibly maintain some continuity with

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Nieuwe gebruikers moeten zich registreren voor ODbL (naast CC-BY-SA)

2010-05-16 Per discussione Lambertus
Op het forum loopt een soort van poll over deze kwestie, misschien halverwege volgende week de stand opmaken? Wie wil kan nog even zijn voorkeur bekend maken... http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=6959 On 05/13/2010 06:31 PM, Roeland Douma wrote: Zijn er plannen hoe dat te doen?

Re: [talk-au] New gateway motorway bridge duplication

2010-05-16 Per discussione Stephen Hope
A couple of things about the bridge. First, even though it was officially opened today, it doesn't have traffic on it until Monday week (24th). Then they do changes to the approaches, and a bit later shut the old bridge down for six months for refurbishment. We'll have to keep changing things

Re: [talk-au] New gateway motorway bridge duplication

2010-05-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:56 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: There is a lot of weird street view locations where the roads have been realigned but the map data hasn't caught up... Yeah, here's an interesting one I came across a while ago:

[talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Per discussione John Smith
CC-by dataset just turned up: http://data.australia.gov.au/622 It seems pretty straight forward to convert this to .osm format, suitable for JOSM. However I'm after suggestions on how to deal with the .osm file(s). I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-16 Per discussione Andrew Gregory
I'd like to thank everyone who replied. While there were some suggestions, it seems nobody else is worrying about these, so I guess with no established convention I'll go with waterway=drain;area=yes. waterway=drain because I've seen many of these sites with signs marked drainage area.

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Per discussione Roy Wallace
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing the non-metro data sets and then offering the metro data sets on a request basis, or is there a better way to handle this and other

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] The National Plan for Environmental Information [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-05-16 Per discussione John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Bannerman b.banner...@bom.gov.au Date: 17 May 2010 14:30 Subject: [Aust-NZ] The National Plan for Environmental Information [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org aust...@lists.osgeo.org fyi: http://www.environment.gov.au/npei/

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing the non-metro data sets and then offering the metro data sets on a request basis, or is there a better way to handle this and other

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: I'd like to thank everyone who replied. While there were some suggestions, it seems nobody else is worrying about these, so I guess with no established convention I'll go with waterway=drain;area=yes. waterway=drain

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-16 Per discussione Stephen Hope
Andrew, Is this what you are talking about? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/basin%3Dinfiltration http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-February/034383.html Stephen On 17 May 2010 14:15, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: I'd like to thank everyone

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 17 May 2010 15:27, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/basin%3Dinfiltration +1, waterway=drain according to current wiki doco only applied to ways ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 17 May 2010 15:07, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Is that because you're worried there will be a lot of duplicates with existing data in metro areas? Could you perhaps import it all, but Some people were upset at previous imports in metro areas.

[Talk-br] Confirmação de Presença no FISL

2010-05-16 Per discussione Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
Pessoal, Eu e o Arlindo compramos passagem ontem para participar do FISL. Só precisamos agora achar lugar (baratinho) pra pousar nos dias que estivermos por lá. Alguem do RS pode dar dicas em relação a lugar pra ficar? []s ___ Talk-br mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land braucht den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 16. Mai 2010 16:35 schrieb André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: Wenn du einen Trampelpfad beschreiben möchtest, nutze bitte highway=trail. Wie kommst Du darauf? Den Tag kannte ich noch gar nicht, er scheint aber nicht für Trampelpfade gemacht zu sein:

[Talk-de] Aktualisierungsintervall von Nominatim und Geonames

2010-05-16 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Liegt es am Aktualiserungsintervall von Nominatim und Geonames, oder warum wird der Thälmannsee (mit Name versehen vor einem Monat) nicht gefunden? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23231371/history -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] - optisch aufgearbeitete OSM History

2010-05-16 Per discussione malenki
UMAX974 schrieb: vor einiger Zeit hab ich mal eine Seite gesehen, auf der die OSM History einer Ortes optisch dargestellt war. Ich könnt mir vorstellen, dass es so etwas evtl sogar in Form eines kleinen Filmes gäbe. Ich fände das z..B für OSM Präsentationen eine Tolle Sache, wenn man für einen

[Talk-de] highway=trail

2010-05-16 Per discussione André Riedel
Am 16. Mai 2010 16:48 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 16. Mai 2010 16:35 schrieb André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: Wenn du einen Trampelpfad beschreiben möchtest, nutze bitte highway=trail. Wie kommst Du darauf? Den Tag kannte ich noch gar nicht, er scheint aber

Re: [Talk-de] Aktualisierungsintervall von Nominatim und Geonames

2010-05-16 Per discussione Volker
Johann H. Addicks addicks at gmx.net writes: Liegt es am Aktualiserungsintervall von Nominatim und Geonames, oder warum wird der Thälmannsee (mit Name versehen vor einem Monat) nicht gefunden? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23231371/history -jha- Da ist was kaputt:

Re: [Talk-de] Aktualisierungsintervall von Nominatim und Geonames

2010-05-16 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Volker schrieb: Da ist was kaputt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim Hmm, 13. April hiess es also ETA 14 days schade. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Nominatimdiff=457648oldid=442739 -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] - optisch aufgearbeitete OSM History

2010-05-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, UMAX974 wrote: vor einiger Zeit hab ich mal eine Seite gesehen, auf der die OSM History einer Ortes optisch dargestellt war. Ich könnt mir vorstellen, dass es so etwas evtl sogar in Form eines kleinen Filmes gäbe. Ich fände das z..B für OSM Präsentationen eine Tolle Sache, wenn man

Re: [Talk-de] Falsche(?) hamlets

2010-05-16 Per discussione Johannes Huesing
Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com [Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:30:15PM CEST]: Am Sonntag 16 Mai 2010, 12:17:30 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com [Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:16:23AM CEST]: Am Samstag 15 Mai 2010, 23:51:58 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Weiler

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land brauc ht den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Nils Heuermann
Am Sun, 16 May 2010 14:01:28 +0200 hat Florian Gross usenet-spam-genausoguel...@grossing.de geschrieben: Hier in der Gegend scheinen die Blauschilder (auch von der Polizei) eher als Fahrrad frei angesehen zu werden und werden auch so verwendet. genau, wobei ich die als Radfahrer angenehmer

[Talk-de] Stolpersteine - Vollständigkeitsauswe rtung

2010-05-16 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! seit einigen Wochen werden vermehrt Stolpersteine erfaßt. Ich habe jetzt hierzu ein Tool [1] erstellt mit welchem die Vollständigkeit überwacht werden soll. Einzelheiten zum Thema findet Ihr unter [2]. Es würde mich freuen, wenn die Erfassung in HH so weiter vorangeht wie bisher -

[Talk-de] Geodaten für Zürich

2010-05-16 Per discussione Markus
Liebe Schweizer, ich war auf einer Tagung bei Google in Zürich und habe dort Menschen aus dem GIS-Umfeld der Stadt Zürich kennengelernt. Die finden OSM gut und wären bereit, Daten zur Verfügung zu stellen. Einen entsprechenden Kontakt kann ich gern vermittel. Leider kenne ich die

[Talk-de] 3D-Panorama-Karte

2010-05-16 Per discussione Markus
Google hat in Zürich eine 3D-Panorama-Karte vorgestellt. Ein Dutzend grossformatige Flachbildschirme hochkant im Kreis. Darauf nahtlos die Welt als Panorama. Der Betrachter mitten drin. In der Mitte eine 3D-Maus: drehen: das Panorama dreht sich um den Betrachter bewegen nach

[Talk-de] Geodaten für Uster (CH)

2010-05-16 Per discussione Markus
Liebe Schweizer, ich habe einen Menschen aus dem GIS-Umfeld der Stat Uster kennengelernt. Er wäre bereit, Daten zur Verfügung zu stellen. Einen entsprechenden Kontakt kann ich gern vermittel. Wer mag? Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list

[Talk-de] Stationszeichen

2010-05-16 Per discussione Tim Koyda
Hallo, ich habe gemerkt, dass es noch keine Vorgabe gibt, wie Stationszeichen gemappt werden können. Stationszeichen sind die kleinen Schilderchen an den Straßen, ide die Kilometrierung angeben, sozusagen die Nachfolger der Kilometersteine (für mehr Informationen siehe

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land brauch t den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 04:35:07PM +0200, André Riedel wrote: Kartendarstellung redest, vermische bitte nicht deine Übersetzung von path zu Pfad mit der der Definition von highway=path. Ein highway=path ist dem cycleway und dem footway gleichwertig! Wenn du einen Trampelpfad beschreiben

[Talk-de] Wikipedia SkillShare-Konferenz in Lünebu rg

2010-05-16 Per discussione Markus
vom 4.-5. Juni findet in Lüneburg eine Wikipedia/Wikimedia-Konferenz statt: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skillshare Bis jetzt werden 130 Teilnehmer erwartet. Vielleicht ist ja für den einen oder anderen etwas dabei. Gruss, Markus Themen: * Fotorallye der 500 Fotos von Lüneburg *

Re: [Talk-de] Stolpersteine - Vollständigkeitsauswertu ng

2010-05-16 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi jan, ich dachte, es wäre inzwischen ALLEN klar, dass Relationen NICHT zum Gruppieren (zusammenstellen von Objekten) dienen soll. Da gab es vor einigen Wochen mal wieder Diskussionen drüber. walter - Der Fehler tritt nicht sporadisch sondern nur ab und zu auf. - aus Hotline-Eintrag --

Re: [Talk-de] Geodaten für Zürich

2010-05-16 Per discussione Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Markus, ich war auf einer Tagung bei Google in Zürich und habe dort Menschen aus dem GIS-Umfeld der Stadt Zürich kennengelernt. Die finden OSM gut und wären bereit, Daten zur Verfügung zu stellen. Ich war per Zufall vorgestern Freitag beim GeoZ und habe dort nach der Verwendung der

Re: [Talk-de] Geodaten für Zürich

2010-05-16 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Thomas, Ich war per Zufall vorgestern Freitag beim GeoZ und habe dort nach der Verwendung der Luftbilder der Stadt gefragt. Wenn alles klappt sollte ich bald ein schriftliches OK dazu haben. Gratuliere! Um welche Daten ging es denn bei Dir? Die Stadt Zürich erfasst grad den gesamten

[Talk-de] Flüsse und Kanäle

2010-05-16 Per discussione Markus
Liebe OSMer, Viele Flüsse und Kanäle sind bisher nur als Linie dargestellt: Peene Oder-Havel-Kanal Elbe-Lübeck-Kanal Mittellandkanal Hanover-Minden Oder-Spree-Kanal Elde-Müritz-Wasserstr. Obere Havel Havel-Kanal Vielleicht gibt es ja kommunale Luftbilder, mit denen man die Breite erkennen und

Re: [Talk-de] Bayernviewer-Daten

2010-05-16 Per discussione Daniela Duerbeck
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Hast Du mal nachgesehen, ob es evtl. einen Bebauungsplan gibt? Da stehen die Hausnummern z.B. auch drin. Für München gibt es leider erst sehr wenige Bebauungspläne online:

Re: [Talk-de] Stolpersteine - Vollständigkeitsauswertu ng

2010-05-16 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Am 16.05.2010 21:55, schrieb Walter Nordmann: hi jan, ich dachte, es wäre inzwischen ALLEN klar, dass Relationen NICHT zum Gruppieren (zusammenstellen von Objekten) dienen soll. Da gab es vor einigen Wochen mal wieder Diskussionen drüber. walter - Der Fehler tritt nicht sporadisch

Re: [Talk-de] Gemeindegrenzen und Straßennamen

2010-05-16 Per discussione Chris66
Am 15.05.2010 22:12, schrieb Chris66: Und woher sollen Anwendungen wissen, dass sich die addr: Information nicht auf das Objekt selbst bezieht? Hab die Tags gelöscht. Hier gibts noch mehr davon: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44816271

Re: [Talk-de] Unterscheidung von Fahrrad/Fahrradfahren verboten

2010-05-16 Per discussione Felix Hartmann
Es braeuchte wirklich ein Tag fuer den speziellen italienischen Sonderfall in einigen Gebirgsgegenden, wo man sein MTB nur tragen, aber nicht schieben darf. Berührt das Bike den Boden und ein Ranger siehts, kostet es 3 stellige Geldstrafe. ___

[Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land brauch t den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Tirkon
Im Wiki wird beim cycleway betont, dass dieser straßenbegleitend sei. Das ist in Städten häufig so. Hier auf dem Land, wo Eigenheime abgesehen von Stadtkernen fast die Regel sind, werden Neubausiedlungen häufig als Ansammlung von Stichstraßen mit Wendehämmern angelegt und 30er Zonen immer mehr die

Re: [Talk-de] Falsche(?) hamlets

2010-05-16 Per discussione Guenther Meyer
Am Sonntag 16 Mai 2010, 04:40:50 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 15. Mai 2010 23:51 schrieb Johannes Huesing johan...@huesing.name: Was ist denn bei Dir ein Stadtteil? Es ging hier um München. Zeig mir mal einen Stadtteil von München, der nur Weiler ist. wie?! dein beispiel solln ist ein

Re: [Talk-de] Falsche(?) hamlets

2010-05-16 Per discussione Guenther Meyer
Am Samstag 15 Mai 2010, 23:51:58 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Weiler gehoeren immer irgendwo dazu. Hamlet gehoert fuer mich an eigenstaendige im Sinne von separat stehend ansiedlungen/gehoefte, aber ganz bestimmt nicht an einen Stadtteil. Was ist denn bei Dir ein Stadtteil? ein stadtteil

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land braucht den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione aighes
Hallo, wie wäre es mit dem allgemeinen highway=path in Kombination mit bicycle=yes|designated|no, foot=yes|designated|no und segregated=yes|no ? path sagt im Prinzip das gleiche aus, wie cycleway und footway, es lässt aber die vorherschende Nutzung offen. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land braucht den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione aighes
Noch eine Ergänzung: Den Ausbauzustand eines Weges kann man mit surface=*, smoothness=* und width=* angegeben werden. Weder path, noch cycleway noch footway machen irgendeine Aussage zum Ausbauzustand, außer dass er nicht für Autos gedacht ist. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-de] Falsche(?) hamlets

2010-05-16 Per discussione Johannes Huesing
Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com [Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:16:23AM CEST]: Am Samstag 15 Mai 2010, 23:51:58 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Weiler gehoeren immer irgendwo dazu. Hamlet gehoert fuer mich an eigenstaendige im Sinne von separat stehend ansiedlungen/gehoefte, aber ganz bestimmt

Re: [Talk-de] Falsche(?) hamlets

2010-05-16 Per discussione Guenther Meyer
Am Sonntag 16 Mai 2010, 12:17:30 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com [Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:16:23AM CEST]: Am Samstag 15 Mai 2010, 23:51:58 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Weiler gehoeren immer irgendwo dazu. Hamlet gehoert fuer mich an eigenstaendige im Sinne

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land brauch t den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Heiko Jacobs
Tirkon schrieb: Im Wiki wird beim cycleway betont, dass dieser straßenbegleitend sei. Meinst Du auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:cycleway Mit cycleway=* werden Fahrradwege beschrieben. Das sind Wege die neben der eigentlichen Straßen verlaufen und speziell gekennzeichnet

Re: [Talk-de] Unterscheidung von Fahrrad/Fahrradfahren verboten

2010-05-16 Per discussione Simon Kokolakis
Am 16.05.2010 00:11, schrieb Heiko Jacobs: Anders kann es nur im nicht-öffentlichen Bereich aussehen, wo Fußgängern womöglich wirksam das Mitführen von Fahrzeugen untersagt werden könnte. Also eingezäunte Gelände oder Gebäude könnten sowas in der Hausordnung haben. Wer sowas taggen will, muss

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land braucht den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Florian Gross
Tirkon glaubte zu wissen: Auch wenn es nicht wirklich hier rein gehört: Diese Beschilderung der Abkürzungen kann rechtlich wegen des abweichenden Verlaufes niemand davon abhalten, den Umweg über die Straße zu nehmen. Sind da hunderte von Wegen falsch beschildert, da nicht straßenbegleitend?

Re: [Talk-de] Stats OSMI Routing View 2010/05

2010-05-16 Per discussione Pascal Neis
Hi, André Riedel schrieb: André Riedel schrieb: Ich finde es immer noch Schade, dass Wege, welche mit einem Knoten mit noexit=yes enden, und Weg, welche mit highway=platform oder public_transport=platform verbunden sind, als Fehler angesehen werden! ab morgen sollten Knoten die mit

Re: [Talk-de] Stats OSMI Routing View 2010/05

2010-05-16 Per discussione André Riedel
Am 16. Mai 2010 14:16 schrieb Pascal Neis pascal.n...@gmail.com: Hi, André Riedel schrieb: André Riedel schrieb: Ich finde es immer noch Schade, dass Wege, welche mit einem Knoten mit noexit=yes enden, und Weg, welche mit highway=platform oder public_transport=platform verbunden sind, als

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land brauch t den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:32:08AM -0700, aighes wrote: Hallo, wie wäre es mit dem allgemeinen highway=path in Kombination mit bicycle=yes|designated|no, foot=yes|designated|no und segregated=yes|no ? path sagt im Prinzip das gleiche aus, wie cycleway und footway, es lässt aber die

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land brauch t den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:44:55AM +0200, Tirkon wrote: Für diese Fälle stört bei OSM die Annahme der Straßenbegleitung und des designated schon sehr, weil sie auf dem Land in der Praxis nicht stimmt. Dann nimm doch das Wiki nicht woertlich OSM ist in den Städten sehr gut aufgestellt. Es

Re: [Talk-de] Gemeindegrenzen und Straßennamen

2010-05-16 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:27:42AM +0200, Heiko Jacobs wrote: Habe mal im Daten- und Kartendienst der LUBW gespickelt, die haben im Layer Natur und Landschaft bei Alle Schutzgebiete (vielleicht auch noch woanders, aber da schaue ich halt am meisten rein, weil mich öfters der Naturschutzstatus

Re: [Talk-de] Gemeindegrenzen und Straßennamen

2010-05-16 Per discussione Tirkon
Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de wrote: addr:city bei der straße? Ich könnte mir Folgendes vorstellen: Ich versuche momentan, Ortsgrenzen vor Ort zu ermitteln und zu taggen. Wo die sich ungefähr befinden könnten, weiß ich selbst oder habe es in Karten irgendwann gelernt. Bestes Anzeichen

Re: [Talk-de] Gemeindegrenzen und Straßennamen

2010-05-16 Per discussione Tirkon
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de wrote: addr:city bei der straße? Ich könnte mir Folgendes vorstellen: Ich versuche momentan, Ortsgrenzen vor Ort zu ermitteln und zu taggen. Wo die sich ungefähr befinden könnten, weiß ich selbst oder habe es in Karten

Re: [Talk-de] OSM städtisch ausgelegt. Land braucht den cyclefootway

2010-05-16 Per discussione André Riedel
Am 16. Mai 2010 14:48 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:32:08AM -0700, aighes wrote: Hallo, wie wäre es mit dem allgemeinen highway=path in Kombination mit bicycle=yes|designated|no, foot=yes|designated|no und segregated=yes|no ? path sagt im Prinzip das gleiche

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