[Talk-hr] Sobe

2011-06-07 Per discussione Tomislav Parčina
Kako tagirati sobe? Vidio sam da postoji tag za hotel, hostel, apartman i bedbreakfast, ali nisam vidio tag za sobe (bedbreakfast bez doručka :D; sa ili bez zasebnog wc-a). Svaka preporuka je dobrodošla. -- Tomislav Parčina ime.prez...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Collective database

2011-06-07 Per discussione Kirill Bestoujev
Thanks, Henk! Kirill On 07.06.2011 4:37, Henk Hoff wrote: Hi Kirill, If you want to clarify as deep as possible you might also want to check with OpenDataCommons (ODC), the authors of the license. Their mailinglist can be found here: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/odc-discuss

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Ed Avis
Frederik Ramm frederik@... writes: 3. OSMF to choose a new license that is free and open, present it to OSM community for vote, and get 2/3 of active mappers to agree with the new license. This is the only bit that is new, and the 2/3 of mappers hurdle can hardly be called allow the board to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/07/11 10:35, Ed Avis wrote: The process is pretty simple really: - decide what licence you want without bothering to hold a vote - get everyone to sign up to new contributor terms allowing that licence - block anyone who says no from contributing and presto! you have your 2/3 majority

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Dermot McNally
On Tuesday, 7 June 2011, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: The process is pretty simple really: - decide what licence you want without bothering to hold a vote A lot of thought and consultation went into the proposed licence and polls were taken to back up the conclusions. Of course, the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Grant Slater
On 7 June 2011 09:35, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Frederik Ramm frederik@... writes: 3. OSMF to choose a new license that is free and open, present it to OSM community for vote, and get 2/3 of active mappers to agree with the new license. This is the only bit that is new, and the 2/3 of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Ed Avis
Grant Slater openstreetmap@... writes: - block anyone who says no from contributing and presto! you have your 2/3 majority of active contributors. Reality check... So to steal all our precious data and kick the majority of the contributors the stupid evil OSMF you propose would have to shut down

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Matt Amos
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Grant Slater openstreetmap@... writes: - block anyone who says no from contributing and presto! you have your 2/3 majority of active contributors. Reality check... So to steal all our precious data and kick the majority of the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebubuth@... writes: i've heard the 'CC-BY-SA doesn't protect the data' argument coming not only from lawyers, but also from Creative Commons itself! I would be interested to read that. My understanding is that Creative Commons have affirmed what has demonstrably been the case all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Rob Myers
On 07/06/11 12:37, Ed Avis wrote: Matt Amos zerebubuth@... writes: i've heard the 'CC-BY-SA doesn't protect the data' argument coming not only from lawyers, but also from Creative Commons itself! I would be interested to read that. Science Commons certainly used to say that the licences

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Dermot McNally
On 7 June 2011 14:35, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: A 2/3 majority of what?  When was a poll held? Your next paragraph suggests that you know when. Do you really think it's a valid poll where, for months, you're only allowed to say yes, and then even after you're allowed to say no, you can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Francis Davey
2011/6/7 Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com: very probably that wasn't the official creative commons line, and he wasn't a lawyer, but neither have i seen his comments officially refuted by anyone at CC. .. or even disavowed :-) Even in the European Union, where there is considerably more

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebubuth@... writes: also the VP of science commons did say [2]: I'm going to be a little provocative here and say that your data is already unprotected [under CC-BY-SA], and you cannot slap a license on it and protect it. ... That means I'm free to ignore any kind of share-alike you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Dermot McNally
On 7 June 2011 15:20, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Of 8,402,321 people eligible to vote, 8,357,560, or 99.5%, cast ballots--8,348,700 of which favored Hussein, the government said. There were 5,808 spoiled ballots. Luckily our licence vote is more transparent. Details on who said yes and no

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Am i missing something ? Dermot is answering messages that are not on this list. Gert Gremmen - Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Dermot McNally

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Francis Davey
2011/6/7 Anthony o...@inbox.org: And what's the best, most accurate thing one can say under the ODbL/DbCL? Some contributors may have intellectual property rights over some aspects of their contribution in some places and some of those rights might be copyright and/or database rights.  The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione john wilbanks
Yup, I said this: I'm going to be a little provocative here and say that your data is already unprotected [under CC-BY-SA], and you cannot slap a license on it and protect it. ... That means I'm free to ignore any kind of share-alike you apply to your data. I've got a download of the OSM data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM, john wilbanks wilba...@creativecommons.org wrote: Yup, I said this: I'm going to be a little provocative here and say that your data is already unprotected [under CC-BY-SA], and you cannot slap a license on it and protect it. ... That means I'm free to ignore

[OSM-legal-talk] Remapping before license change (was Re: CTs are not full copyright assignment)

2011-06-07 Per discussione Nakor Osm
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: We're planning to have most things remapped by CT supporters before we make the switch, so it will hardly be noticeable. How do you plan to achieve that in areas where there are not (m)any mappers on the ground? Not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Remapping before license change (was Re: CTs are not full copyright assignment)

2011-06-07 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nakor Osm wrote: How do you plan to achieve that in areas where there are not (m)any mappers on the ground? Not everything can be done through arm-chair mapping. Yes, I'm sure that there will be problem areas. An area with little or no mappers on the ground is a problem area *even

[OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-07 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
I'm led to believe that people have been issuing LWG with private lists of demands that they want met before they will consent to ODbL+CT. Could I ask that said people have the courtesy to post their demands here, too? It would be a shame if the suspicion arose that the process is being swayed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione john wilbanks
Richard said: I understand that Creative Commons declined to participate in drafting ODbL when invited. Why is that? Why the sudden interest in data now, after having declined the opportunity earlier? I don't speak for CC here, I speak for SC, which was far less integrated into CC than you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment On 2011-06-07 10:35, Ed Avis wrote: Frederik Rammfrederik@...

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-07 Per discussione Kate Chapman
I'd also like to add that people get more excited about OpenStreetMap when they see their changes instantly added. I've trained people in both Potlatch, Potlatch2 and JOSM. I pick the tool depending on specific class. Areas with bad/no internet access we use JOSM and changes are immediately

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Fw: Disaster Preparedness Project

2011-06-07 Per discussione Samuel Mandell
Essentially what I'm looking for is the ability to produce a Thomas-Guide style maps book where a city is broken into printable pages (e.g. A6) and at the back would be an index of streets with corresponding page and x/y axis information. As mentioned before it would be ideal if this could be

[OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, we have this recurring topic in various parts of OSM - airspace mapping. I'm strictly against it. (For those not familiar with airspace, here's an example of a VFR airspace map: http://www.rc-network.de/magazin/artikel_02/art_02-0001/ICAO-Karte-Ausschnitt-Bild2.jpg) My arguments

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Tom Hughes
On 07/06/11 08:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? +100 Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Fw: Disaster Preparedness Project

2011-06-07 Per discussione Tim McNamara
Hi all, Lots of time was spent in late Feburary early March in NZ to produce printable maps from OSM/Ushahidi for Christchurch residents without power. It would be great to recycle this energy. Tim McNamara Professional \\ paperlessprojects.com Personal \\ @timClicks

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Lester Caine
Tom Hughes wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? +100 Perfect example of something that should be possible to implement as a completely separate

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
Frederik, On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi,   we have this recurring topic in various parts of OSM - airspace mapping. I'm strictly against it. [...] But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:41:29AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? Or do you think that airspace should have a place in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-06-07 09:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? I fully agree with all of your points. Bye, Andreas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-06-07 10:35, Ed Avis wrote: Frederik Rammfrederik@... writes: 3. OSMF to choose a new license that is free and open, present it to OSM community for vote, and get 2/3 of active mappers to agree with the new license. This is the only bit that is new, and the 2/3 of mappers hurdle can

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Fw: Disaster Preparedness Project

2011-06-07 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Hi, After the recent flood in Haut-Richelieu, Québec, and the request to use MapOSMatic in this context, it happens that I met Thomas, one of the developers of MapOSMatic. When I had asked about this functionality of map booklet, he had told me that they had started working on this (or on

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Tom Hughes
On 07/06/11 11:15, Ed Avis wrote: I think the important question is whether mapping airspace causes any harm to people who don't care about airspace. I believe Frederik covered that when he mentioned the problems of having lots of objects criss-crossing areas that people are trying to work

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Maarten Deen
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:15:59 + (UTC), Ed Avis wrote: I think the important question is whether mapping airspace causes any harm to people who don't care about airspace. If not, best to let the people who are interested get on with it, however misguided they may be. IMHO this is already

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Ed Avis
Tom Hughes tom at compton.nu writes: I think the important question is whether mapping airspace causes any harm to people who don't care about airspace. I believe Frederik covered that when he mentioned the problems of having lots of objects criss-crossing areas that people are trying to work

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Tom Hughes
On 07/06/11 11:46, Ed Avis wrote: However, I would suggest that this is not a particularly hard problem to solve; the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag or put them in a different layer. Currently, available editors don't do that. The question is whether to forbid tagging airspace

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Lennard
However, I would suggest that this is not a particularly hard problem to solve; the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag or put them in a different layer. Currently, available editors don't do that. JOSM does that. Particularly well, too. Have a look at the Filter stuff. Can't speak

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Mike N
On 6/7/2011 7:04 AM, Lennard wrote: However, I would suggest that this is not a particularly hard problem to solve; the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag or put them in a different layer. Currently, available editors don't do that. JOSM does that. Particularly well, too. Have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:   we have this recurring topic in various parts of OSM - airspace mapping. I'm strictly against it. I'm not 100% for it, and my feeling when reading this mail was that you are too categorically against this type of

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 4. 99% of Airspace is of almost no significance to non-pilots. Arguments like one would like to know if the house one intends to buy is within some kind of airspace are fantasy. I agree with all the rest. I would say here

[OSM-talk] Addressing System in OSM

2011-06-07 Per discussione Besfort Guri
Who can help me with Addressing System in OpenStreetMap, I need like a tutorial for that because I am trying to figure out some problems in Kosovo, but I need help to do that ?... -- Regards Besfort Guri +377 44 49 88 91 www.besiguri.wordpress.com http://besfortp.posterous.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Fw: Disaster Preparedness Project

2011-06-07 Per discussione Joseph Reeves
OT, I know, but I would love to see the same thing available as Kindle friendly pdf (or native ebook format) download. I recently drove around France for a weekend wishing that my atlas was Open, offline and on my ebook reader. Cheers, Joseph On 7 June 2011 07:51, Samuel Mandell

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Fw: Disaster Preparedness Project

2011-06-07 Per discussione Pierre Béland
On 2011-06-07, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote After the recent flood in Haut-Richelieu, Québec, and the request to use MapOSMatic in this context, it happens that I met Thomas, one of the developers of MapOSMatic. When I had asked about this functionality of map booklet, he had told me that

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing System in OSM

2011-06-07 Per discussione Josh Doe
Start here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address Generally you just need the addr:housenumber and addr:street tags, but if you're more specific with your question we can do a better job answering. Nominatim can also be useful for debugging purposes, go here:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-07 Per discussione Robert Kaiser
Maarten Deen schrieb: It gains the right to exploit the data in the database. If it would exploit the database in a manner where this word legally applies, it would break the rules the Foundation has and therefore break the law, AFAIK. Exploit is what (according to a IIRC legally back

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
On 7 June 2011 13:58, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: The best long term solution to this, and other problems, would be to have better facilities for creating and integrating overlays. Just like Wikipedia solved some of its scoping problems by telling people to stick it all on Wikia,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Francis Davey
2011/6/7 Anthony o...@inbox.org: It's not even clear that more is caught by the ODbL worldwide, in part because the ODbL explicitly states that it does not cover the copyright over the Contents independent of this Database, and it is unclear what the Contents independent of this Database

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Robert Kaiser
Mike Dupont schrieb: The people are not being asked to agree to a license in general, but to give up an allow the board to tweak the license for them. If the board consists of 2/3 of the active contributors, then yes. If the board consists of fewer or different people than in this definition,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Francis Davey
2011/6/7 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I could certainly see an argument that someone who changes the structure of the database, rearranges the contents, changes the field names, and reorganizes the indexes, has successfully extracted the Contents independent of the Database, and gets to use the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Per discussione Robert Kaiser
Ed Avis schrieb: Frederik Rammfrederik@... writes: 3. OSMF to choose a new license that is free and open, present it to OSM community for vote, and get 2/3 of active mappers to agree with the new license. This is the only bit that is new, and the 2/3 of mappers hurdle can hardly be called

[OSM-talk] Are you coming to London on Sunday?

2011-06-07 Per discussione Steve Coast
or saturday night http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Board_Meeting_June_2011 Would be awesome to see you there Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/7 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: Perfect example of something that should be possible to implement as a completely separate database, but which can overlay any other OSM data? +1 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Fw: Disaster Preparedness Project

2011-06-07 Per discussione Samuel Mandell
Jean-Guilhem, It sounds like there could be a lot of demand for the ability to generate these map booklets. *Thomas* - are there any updates on this effort from the MapOSMatic side of things? I am working with a group of designers on the disaster prepardness project so we can definitely

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Per discussione Russ Nelson
Tom Hughes writes: On 07/06/11 08:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? +100 It should go on http://openairspace.org,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hoe gecombineerde bruggen te mappen?

2011-06-07 Per discussione Christ van Willegen
2011/6/1 Oliver Heesakkers o...@heesakkers.info: Er is een methode (proposal) met met relaties, alleen wordt die niet door Mapnik ondersteund, alleen door Osmarender. Hierdoor lijkt de populariteit nog ver te zoeken. Vergelijk hier de bruggen in het midden met de bruggen iets erboven en

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hoe gecombineerde bruggen te mappen?

2011-06-07 Per discussione Lennard
Zoals een collega van me al zei, ways zouden een relatie met een brug moeten hebben, zodat dingen als 'de brug is dicht' ook invloed kunnen hebben op de wegen er overheen. Die relatie is er al. Behoorlijk sterk ook. 'Brug' is namelijk een eigenschap die we direct op wegen zetten. -- Lennard

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] omtagging motorway_links door It's so funny

2011-06-07 Per discussione Colin Smale
Allereerst.Don't shoot the messenger... Hij (of zij?) heeft een de ref's op verbindingsbogen nu aangepast; de ref=* is de snelweg waar de verbinding naartoe leidt. Persoonlijk vind ik dit praktisch omdat de manier waarop het doorkomt in kaarten op de Garmin overeenkomt met de borden boven

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] omtagging motorway_links door It's so funny

2011-06-07 Per discussione Lennard
On 7-6-2011 21:17, Colin Smale wrote: T.a.v. motorway_link op parallelbanen met doorgaande functie (bijvoorbeeld op de A2 langs Utrecht) heeft hij/zij de praktijk omgedraaid. Vroeger stond in de wiki dat parallelbanen (niet zijnde op- en afritten en verbindingsbogen) ook gewoon motorway waren.

[talk-au] Free ebooks

2011-06-07 Per discussione John Smith
Earlier this week 4000 academic books were released for free, apparently there is quite a lot of GIS books in the mix: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/slashgeo/~3/j318KMk-yGU/Hundreds-Free-Geospatial-PDF-Books-National-Academies-Press ___ Talk-au

[Talk-br] Atualização do Brasil 5500

2011-06-07 Per discussione vitor
Oi Pessoal, A tabela do Projeto Brasil 5500 foi atualizada: http://mapaslivres.org/brasil5500.html Esperem atualizações mais frequentes deste projeto. Para saber mais: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_5500 Abs, Vitor ___

Re: [Talk-de] Projektidee: Segmentierung von OSM-Daten

2011-06-07 Per discussione ant
Hallo Frederik, On 07.06.2011 01:29, Frederik Ramm wrote: gerecht würden, und die Verteilung von OSM-Daten über Bittorrent und Co. würde möglich werden, Naja, fuer sich staendig aendernde Daten (selbst wenn sie sich nur taeglich aendern) ist das nicht gerade der beste Verbreitungsweg.

[Talk-de] Workshop hart an der Grenze = im Kleverland am Niederrhein

2011-06-07 Per discussione Elmar Burke
Hallo Welt, bei uns am unteren Niederrhein, wo Vater Rhein Deutschland verlässt, starten wir einen Workshop zum Thema Einsteigen in die OpenStreetMap. Wir haben uns als enge Gruppe Anfang des letzten Jahres zusammengefunden, es wurden GPS-Geräte gesponsert und im engen Kontakt zum Stadtmarketing

[Talk-de] [OT] Markierung bestimmter Punkte / Bereiche auf einer Karte

2011-06-07 Per discussione Andreas Tille
Hallo, gibt es ein geeignetes Tool, mit dem man lokale Ereignisse (z.B. Ausbrüche von Krankheiten) auf der OpenStreetMap Karte darstellen kann? Es geht um sowas in der Art: Sehr viele Fälle in Region A, weniger Fälle in Region B, einige wenige Fälle in Region C. Das ganze sollte dann auch noch

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Elmar Burke
Hallo Welt, nach einem Jahr Stillschweigen im Bereich Feuerwehr möchte ich das Thema nochmal auffrischen, und zwar aus aktuellem Anlass. Kurz zu mir: Ich studiere E-Government und bin Feuerwehrmann, eine Kombi die Quasi nach einer VERNÜNFTIGEN Lösung zum finden von Hydranten schreit. Zwar haben

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Elmar, www.openfiremap.org Sieht hübsch aus in Klewe! an der Hochschule voranbringen und als Forschungsprojekt etablieren Von den Wehren wird gewünscht: - PDF-Export - Unterscheidung Oberflur/Unterflur/Saugstelle - offline auf Android Von den Mappern wird gewünscht: - Übersicht wo

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Elmar Burke
Hey Markus, danke für deine Antwort, aber es heißt Kleve :) In der Tat. du hast die Anforderungen auf den Kopf getroffen. Wobei ob Android, iOS oder Win7 noch nicht klar ist. Das hängt an der Hardware. Und das ist das Problem. Die Geräte sind noch zu ungenau, haben leider keine

Re: [Talk-de] Kandidaten fuer weitere tile layer auf osm.org?

2011-06-07 Per discussione Peter Wendorff
Am 03.06.2011 08:20, schrieb Sarah Hoffmann: Hallo, On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 07:49:32PM +, Sven Geggus wrote: Kai Kruegerkakrue...@gmail.com wrote: Die Frage ist nun kennt jemand / betreibt jemand einen Karten-layer der diese Kriteren erfuellen wuerde und somit auf osm.org aufgenommen

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Dominik Wegerle
Hallo Elmar, ich weiß, das die Firma Logiball auch in etwa die gleiche Richtung arbeitet. http://www.logiball.de/bn-bos.html Gleichzeitig sind sie als Sponsoren bei OSM Veranstaltungen aktiv: http://stateofthemap.org/ Vielleicht gibt es dort einen Ansprechpartner für Dich... (oder aber Sie

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Elmar, Die Geräte sind noch zu ungenau Die Genauigkeit liegt bei ~10m. Damit lässt sich das Hydrantenschild sicher finden? EGNOS-Unterstützung Da sind wir dran - ich werde berichten (Herbst). Die Förderung ist leider nur von Unternehmen beantragbar. Klewe betreibt sicher auch

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Markus
Am 07.06.2011 12:50, schrieb Markus: Klewe ich meinte natürlich *Kleve* Sorry, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Projektidee: Segmentierung von OSM-Daten

2011-06-07 Per discussione ikonor
Hallo, mit TileStache und Polymaps gibt es einen Ansatz zum Browser-basierten Rendering von GeoJSON Tiles. mapsforge für Android ist ein Projekt der FU Berlin, hat wohl ein in Tiles unterteiltes Dateiformat [1] und bestimmt schon einige damit verbundene Fragestellungen bezüglich Rendering

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Elmar Burke
Hey hey, unser Ziel ist es ja, die Hydranten zu finden. Die Hydrantenschilder sind oft defekt, falsch. Die Hydranten liegen bei uns auf'n Land zu oft im Graben, der mit Gras zugewuchert ist. Und dann den Hydranten - analog zum Geocachen - direkt zu finden, quasi zu wissen, wo der Spaten ansetzen

Re: [Talk-de] [OT] Markierung bestimmter Punkte / Bereiche auf einer Karte

2011-06-07 Per discussione ikonor
Hallo, evtl. passt da Ushahidi: http://www.ushahidi.com/products/ushahidi-platform Gruß, ikonor ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] osmandcreator ... Erfahrungen

2011-06-07 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! hat einer von Euch schon einmal eigene Konfigurationen für OSMAND mit osmandcreator erstellt und Erfahrungen sammeln können? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Garry
Am 07.06.2011 12:50, schrieb Markus: Hallo Elmar, Die Geräte sind noch zu ungenau Die Genauigkeit liegt bei ~10m. Damit lässt sich das Hydrantenschild sicher finden? Gegebenfalls lässt sich da ja auch noch eine Bilddatenbank mit dranhängen die das Auffinden deutlich erleichtert (Foto vom

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Garry
Am 07.06.2011 13:03, schrieb Elmar Burke: Hey hey, unser Ziel ist es ja, die Hydranten zu finden. Die Hydrantenschilder sind oft defekt, falsch. Die Hydranten liegen bei uns auf'n Land zu oft im Graben, der mit Gras zugewuchert ist. Und dann den Hydranten - analog zum Geocachen - direkt zu

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Elmar Burke
Naja, sie werden ja jährlich kontrolliert, eigentlich läuft alles ganz gut - bis jetzt ist jedes Feuer ausgegangen :) Aber es kommt halt auf Minuten, wenn sogar auf Sekunden an... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Elmar Burke -- Tel.: 0 28 21 - 59 080 89 Mobil: 01 512

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Garry
Am 03.06.2010 16:32, schrieb Wolfgang: Als Alternative und Lösung auch für andere Fälle könnte man vielleicht überlegen, ob man einen Node nicht mit absoluter, sondern mit relativer Position zu vorhandenen Daten, Bsp. Straßenachse, angeben könnte. Verschiebe ich eine Straße um ein paar Meter,

Re: [Talk-de] Zwischen Forest und Scrub

2011-06-07 Per discussione Garry
Am 06.06.2011 18:04, schrieb Torsten Leistikow: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb am 06.06.2011 17:42: Du müsstest irgendwie das Alter (Pflanzdatum, auch ungefähr) der Bäume unterbringen (bzw. die durchschnittliche Wuchshöhe - nicht gerade ein dauerhaftes Attribut allerdings). Naja, wenn man keinen

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Peter
Am 07.06.2011 15:15, schrieb Garry: Am 07.06.2011 12:50, schrieb Markus: Die Geräte sind noch zu ungenau Die Genauigkeit liegt bei ~10m. Damit lässt sich das Hydrantenschild sicher finden? Gegebenfalls lässt sich da ja auch noch eine Bilddatenbank mit dranhängen die das Auffinden

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Elmar, Hydrantenschilder defekt, falsch Hydranten im Graben, mit Gras zugewuchert Da bin ich ja froh nicht in Kleve zu wohnen - ich dachte, Hydranten sind sicherheitsrelevante Brandschutzeinrichtungen ;-) Bei solchen Bedingungen könnte vielleicht ein DGPS helfen? Kostet zwar - aber

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für Daten, Karte und Renderer

2011-06-07 Per discussione Garry
Am 06.06.2011 17:42, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: das verstehe ich jetzt nicht, inwiefern man durch genauere Grenzen Dass eine als einzelne Linie gezeichnete Grenze genauer ist als die Verwendung der Strassengeometrie, ist mitnichten erwiesen. behindert werden

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2011-06-07 Per discussione Georg Feddern
Moin, Elmar Burke schrieb: Naja, sie werden ja jährlich kontrolliert, eigentlich läuft alles ganz gut - bis jetzt ist jedes Feuer ausgegangen :) Aber es kommt halt auf Minuten, wenn sogar auf Sekunden an... nix für ungut - aber da beißen sich ein wenig die Zeitangaben von

Re: [Talk-de] Zwischen Forest und Scrub

2011-06-07 Per discussione Torsten Leistikow
Garry schrieb am 07.06.2011 15:46: Warum soll dort nicht funktionieren was bei highway funktioniert? In erster Linie, weil es beim highway mit dem tracktype auch nicht wirklich funktioniert, was ja auch regelmaessig wieder Thema in den Diskussionen ist. OK, die Bereitschaft das zu mappen wird

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für Daten, Karte und Renderer

2011-06-07 Per discussione Torsten Leistikow
Garry schrieb am 07.06.2011 16:03: Wer die Strasse bearbeiten möchte soll die Strasse bearbeiten können und wer die Waldgrenze bearbeiten möchte eben die Waldgrenze. Noch mal zur Erinnerung: Wir reden hier von dem Fall, wo ein Wald bis an eine Strasse heran reicht. = Waldgrenze = Strasse Es

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für Daten, Karte und Renderer

2011-06-07 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 06/07/11 16:03, Garry wrote: Wer die Strasse bearbeiten möchte soll die Strasse bearbeiten können und wer die Waldgrenze bearbeiten möchte eben die Waldgrenze. Er sollte nicht genötigt werden beides anfassen zu müssen was er dann im Zweifelsfalls lassen wird - keine Verbesserung der

Re: [Talk-de] Projektidee: Segmentierung von OSM-Daten

2011-06-07 Per discussione Mitja Kleider
Hallo ant, On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 23:43 +0200, ant wrote: Die Idee, OSM-Daten in Chunks - oder Segmente, wie ich es nennen würde - aufzuteilen, ist großartig. Mit den Segmenten ließen sich Extrakte zusammenbasteln, die den verschiedenen Anforderungen an Größe und Umfang gerecht würden, und

Re: [Talk-de] Zwischen Forest und Scrub

2011-06-07 Per discussione tshrub
hi Jan, ... kann mir einer sagen wie man so ein Zwischending zwischen landuse=forest und natural=scrub taggen würde?? Konkret geht es um eine Fläche auf dem Darß (Zingst) im Bereich http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.43426lon=12.7108zoom=17 sieht für mich nach einem Grünland (Brach- bzw.

Re: [Talk-de] Zwischen Forest und Scrub

2011-06-07 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 7. Juni 2011 23:42 schrieb tshrub my-email-confirmat...@online.de: Charakteristisch ist, das Wald oder Gebüsch eine eigenes Klima bilden kann, sprich: der Wind da nicht durchpfeifen kann, daher eine Mindestbreite beim Gebüsch. ein Gebüsch ist bei jeder Größe ein Orientierungspunkt.

Re: [Talk-de] Problematik der Ortsnamenzusätze

2011-06-07 Per discussione Karl Eichwalder
Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net writes: Nun habe ich bei OSMAND [1] kürzlich festgestellt das dieses Programm z.b. immer bei der Ortsnamensuche die Namen von vorne durchsucht. Wenn man jetzt aber z.b. Zingst sucht, dann findet das Programm diesen Ort nicht, da im Tag name der Wert

Re: [osm-ve] vandalismo en Caracas?

2011-06-07 Per discussione J . Hernán Ramírez R .
Gracias daniel. Veré como se hace para recuperar data. A la fecha el usuario no ha respondido. El 07/06/2011 04:03, dan...@web.de escribió: Am 07.06.2011 00:25, schrieb J. Hernán Ramírez R.: 2011/6/6 dan...@web.de Hola gente! Hoy ya pregunté en el foro, ahora acá: cu...

Re: [Talk-it] mapping party montagna

2011-06-07 Per discussione Roberto Moretti
Il 07 giugno 2011 00:00, Matteo matservi...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Allora Luciano, il mio amico, mi consiglia Prato Selva[1] (piccola stazione sciistica), in quanto c'è un albergo per dormire e ci sono diversi sentieri Mi sembra una buona zona da mappare con dei paesi come Fano Adriano,

[Talk-it] maneggio

2011-06-07 Per discussione emmexx
Quali tag usare? Se possibile 2 soluzioni: - temporanea, indicazione puntuale della presenza dello stesso - definitiva, con indicazione dell'area occupata dallo stesso. grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-it] Fwd: Nautical lights in Sardinia

2011-06-07 Per discussione Simone Cortesi
I've received this email, and thus forwarding it to you on the italian list. CCing the original sender. -- Forwarded message -- From: Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de Date: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 13:04 Subject: Fwd: Nautical lights in Sardinia To: talk-it-ow...@openstreetmap.org Dear

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: Nautical lights in Sardinia

2011-06-07 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: So it would be nice if you can help to move it to the exact position. If there is a existing man_made=lighthouse please merge it. Moving them to their exact position is easy with Italian aerial photos. However we need

[Talk-it] [OT] Problema GPX su Dakota 20

2011-06-07 Per discussione Tiziano D'Angelo
ciao a tutti, ho provato a trovare una soluzione...ma niente... ho un Garmin Dakota 20 che memorizza le tracce GPX spezzandole ogni tot, quindi per varie ore di registrazione avrò varie tracce salvate nella cartella archived sulla memoria interna. Temo sia un limite di punti immagazzinabile (ho

Re: [Talk-it] [OT] Problema GPX su Dakota 20

2011-06-07 Per discussione niubii
Rassegnati :-) funziona proprio cosi' Ciao /niubii/ Il giorno 07 giugno 2011 17:48, Tiziano D'Angelo tiziano.dang...@gmail.comha scritto: ciao a tutti, ho provato a trovare una soluzione...ma niente... ho un Garmin Dakota 20 che memorizza le tracce GPX spezzandole ogni tot, quindi per

[Talk-it] mapping party montagna

2011-06-07 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
La ricerca fatta dal buon Ale è stata veramente buona la zona sembra ottima... leggete sotto. Inoltre ecco qui anche un bella mappa [0] (64 MB) [0] http://marcelatebag.googlecode.com/files/Emap.mappe.carta.sentieri.cai.Gran.Sasso.d-Italia.completo.by.Valerio99.tif -- Messaggio

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