Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Václav Řehák [mailto:rehak...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server Is there anything that can be done to unblock fixed applications? And if there is no will to change the situation, can you recommend me another Android app for displaying OSM tiles and

Re: [OSM-talk] Moderating / Quality checking OSM contributions -- was: Re: OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

2011-12-07 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Moderating / Quality checking OSM contributions I thought this was foolish at the time, and it still is. highway=* should match the classification given by the government or roading authority, and should

Re: [OSM-talk] [osmosis-dev] Osmosis replication fails

2011-12-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [osmosis-dev] Osmosis replication fails Another thing - can you just change over from using minutely to hourly replication files without re-initializing? I tried that and now it does not seem to pick up any replication

Re: [OSM-talk] Knowing the Access vs TIle Management

2012-01-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fr...@meruvian.org] Subject: [OSM-talk] Knowing the Access vs TIle Management hi all my server is only 1TB space, and we know full map can achive 91 TB, i read from here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Disk_Usage so we know the space usage, and

Re: [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:k...@maploser.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:18 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: openstreetmap; nicolas chavent Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions. This is going to require some analysis, but I believe all of the decliners were tracing from satellite

[OSM-talk] Daily coastline shapefiles

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Norman
I have started daily coastline shapefile generation on my home server. The data is pulled from my jxapi database and processed, starting at 1 AM PST (9 AM UTC) and takes 3-5 hours to generate and upload, depending on my internet connection. The files will be available at

Re: [OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software?

2012-02-12 Thread Paul Norman
I believe it is available on Ian's github at https://github.com/iandees/osm-deep-history I don't believe he's put a license on it, likely since no one has asked. https://github.com/iandees/osm-deep-history From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] deep diff tool

Re: [OSM-talk] Wind turbines no longer rendered on mapnik layer

2012-02-15 Thread Paul Norman
I know the stylesheet maintainers are backed up, but is there a ticket indicating what additions to the stylesheet are desired in trac? The only mapnik ticket I can find relating to public transport is http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2798 Do any of the general purpose styles (e.g.

[OSM-talk] Printed map books

2012-02-19 Thread Paul Norman
In my car I still use a printed map book, which I'd like to replace with one using OSM data and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. The features I consider requirements are - Tiled pages with an index map at the front of the book - Arrows on each page indicating the number of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Printed map books

2012-02-19 Thread Paul Norman
the PDFs from the command line? From: Graham Jones [mailto:grahamjones...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:08 AM To: Steve Bennett Cc: Paul Norman; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Printed map books Hi, The two 'townguide' ones are mine, but the demonstration web

Re: [OSM-talk] Printed map books

2012-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
to look in that direction - An index page at the front - The ability to skip maps From: Graham Jones [mailto:grahamjones...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:50 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Steve Bennett; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: RE: [OSM-talk] Printed map books

Re: [OSM-talk] Printed map books

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
. It's good to hear that it works for someone else. From: Graham Jones [mailto:grahamjones...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:38 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Steve Bennett; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: RE: [OSM-talk] Printed map books Hi Paul, This is very good. I had

[OSM-talk] mapbook: a PDF map book creator

2012-02-24 Thread Paul Norman
I'd like to announce the release of version 0.01 of mapbook, a PDF map book creator for mapnik generated maps. This is very much a development release and is missing what I view to be important features. mapbook can be found at https://github.com/pnorman/mapbook Features: It uses Mapnik's

Re: [OSM-talk] Victoria seems to be missing.

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Norman
Removing a limited set of objects was proposed by rweait in http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2012-March/004589.html. What was actually removed went beyond what was discussed. I proposed rolling them back in http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2012-March/004599.html but

[OSM-talk] mapbook v0.02

2012-03-09 Thread Paul Norman
I have completed an overhaul to my mapbook program, making it easier to extend and adding new features. This program, available at https://github.com/pnorman/mapbook, will create a PDF with a title page, an index map showing the coverage of the book and what page covers what area, then

Re: [OSM-talk] GSOC2012 Video Based Speed Limit Detector

2012-03-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Stefan de Konink [mailto:ste...@konink.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GSOC2012 Video Based Speed Limit Detector Hi, On 21-03-12 21:04, Emanuela Boroș wrote: My name is Emanuela Boros and I am a second year Software Engineering master's student at the Al. Ioan Cuza University of

Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: AJ Ashton [mailto:aj.ash...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?! Its much easier for tools to automatically abbreviate words than the other way around. (We've done automatic abbreviations for the latest MapBox map [1].) I

[OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Norman
I have been running a nightly coastline generation on my server, using the latest data from my jxapi server. Tonight I switched it over to filter out data that WTFE reports as dirty. This is somewhat more aggressive than the rebuild will be, but the results are worrisome. A PNG showing the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:42 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines Paul Norman writes: I have been running a nightly coastline generation on my server

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: David Groom [mailto:revi...@pacific-rim.net] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines - Original Message - From: Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines Paul Norman writes: I have been running

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:21 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines Paul Norman writes: It's particularly galling that anonymous users who haven't accepted

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

2012-03-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: ThomasB [mailto:toba0...@yahoo.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines just fyithe generation of the processedc_p failed. It say it has 46 Byte. coastlinec_p seems to be okay My jxapi instance is lagged behind - it lost its state.txt file in a crash and fell a couple

[OSM-talk] Coastline Update

2012-03-30 Thread Paul Norman
I have completed another coastline generation and it has uploaded. This version respects odbl=clean. The shapefiles are in their normal place at http://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/coastlines/ Included is a .osm file with all the error points. An overview can be found at

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Update

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Norman
Toby wrote: Assuming you used the data I supplied this morning, it is actually from 12:30 AM CST last night when I started the jxapi query before going to bed. Also, it looks like http://www.wightpaths.co.uk/coast/CT-only.php has been updated with your new files since you sent

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Update

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Andrew Errington [mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:01 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Update On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:31:53 Clifford Snow wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Paul Norman

Re: [OSM-talk] Komuna e Malishevës, Serbia ?

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Komuna e Malishevës, Serbia ? Mike Dupont wrote: 2012/4/1 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk Altin Ukshini wrote: Does anyone care about these reports ? I said it

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Update

2012-04-04 Thread Paul Norman
of their locations -Original Message- From: ThomasB [mailto:toba0...@yahoo.de] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:01 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Update Hi Paul, do you plan another update? Regards Thomas Paul Norman wrote I have completed another

Re: [OSM-talk] server migration update / license change

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] server migration update / license change On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM, ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: Thanks a lot for the Update, Richard. It is much appreciated that the information flow works. I have a

Re: [OSM-talk] server migration update / license change

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] server migration update / license change On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: If the tiles are not regenerated then they will contain elements that are licensed as cc by-sa only. Old

Re: [OSM-talk] Detecting unwanted edits and vandalism

2012-04-08 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Dmitry Terentiev [mailto:djterent...@yandex.ru] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:16 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Detecting unwanted edits and vandalism Adam, Very often newbie to OSM start their contribution with moving object

Re: [OSM-talk] Download all OSM GPS traces

2012-04-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ruogu Ding [mailto:ruogu.d...@kaust.edu.sa] Subject: [OSM-talk] Download all OSM GPS traces Hi, I find a planet.gpx is being offered but with only GPS points. I understand that this is helpful, and appreciate the efforts in generating this file. However, many people (like me) need

Re: [OSM-talk] An example photo/video mapping trip

2012-04-10 Thread Paul Norman
will be automatically added to map with respective tags after synchronizing with gps tracks. I would request if anyone has such images/videos along with gpx file to share here as these will be helpful while developing the plugin. -- Nikhil Upadhye On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Paul Norman

Re: [OSM-talk] An example photo/video mapping trip

2012-04-11 Thread Paul Norman
I'd suggest a digital camera with an intervalometer to capture images every few seconds. Canon PowerShots with CHDK work for this. The mounts look useful but you can get similar mounts separately (e.g. http://delkin.com/c-147099-mounts-mini-mount.html) From: Colin Smale

Re: [OSM-talk] An example photo/video mapping trip

2012-04-11 Thread Paul Norman
robust once the base is properly build. Any other suggestions regarding the idea are welcome! -- Nikhil On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: The road signs, max speeds and bus stops don't take long to tag. Take the bus stop in IMG_3429.JPG as an example

Re: [OSM-talk] Islands that will vanish in the license change

2012-04-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Islands that will vanish in the license change Hi, On 04/13/2012 08:14 AM, Toby Murray wrote: I downloaded all natural=coastline ways from my jxapi. Then I split the world into 4 parts to make them small enough

[OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: Empty Relations

2012-04-13 Thread Paul Norman
Through editor errors or other mistakes there are a number of relations in OSM which have no members. I propose a mechanical edit to delete these where they are not members of some other way. My proposed procedure, documented at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/pnorman_imports

Re: [OSM-talk] Islands that will vanish in the license change

2012-04-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Islands that will vanish in the license change Hi, On 04/13/12 11:00, Paul Norman wrote: This technique works well for smaller areas, but when I tried running the license check plugin on a 5 GB .osm file

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: Empty Relations

2012-04-15 Thread Paul Norman
. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: Empty Relations Through editor errors or other mistakes there are a number of relations in OSM which have no members. I propose a mechanical edit to delete these where they are not members of some

Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit

2012-04-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit What about a camera with built-in GPS? That way you can make photo documentation of the progress at each site with a timestamp and geostamp[1]. Many cameras also record audio, so you

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage relations, in particular 1298962

2012-04-26 Thread Paul Norman
If I saw one of these locally I would verify that it corresponds to nothing on the ground and then delete it. -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:28 PM To: Open Street Map mailing list Subject: [OSM-talk] Bing

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Norman
The mechanical edit policy calls for a wiki page with the details of the proposed upload, as well as contact info (i.e. main account). Please provide documentation on all the points in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy#Document From: Worst Fixer

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Norman
/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct From: Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:31 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N Hello. 2012/5/20 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com The mechanical edit policy calls for a wiki page

Re: [OSM-talk] Selecting validation warnings in JOSM

2012-05-26 Thread Paul Norman
Select the nodes then use search within selection - or search for selected source=something From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:27 AM To: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list Subject: [OSM-talk] Selecting validation warnings in JOSM Is there a way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Norman
Could you post the code used to generate the changesets? That would be the easiest way for some of us to review your proposed changes. It wouldn’t remove the need to explain it to non-programmers, but it would be much easier for some of us if we could look at the code. That being said, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Norman
. 2012/5/30 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: Could you post the code used to generate the changesets? Ich may not. Some parts of it are not open source. I think of clean rewrite. The logic that you have created is what I'm interested in. That would be the easiest way for some

Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-12 Thread Paul Norman
From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:38 PM To: jaa...@helleranta.com Cc: osm-talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old hires imagery is

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Licence redaction ready to begin Test runs have shown that the bot is functioning as we want it to, but we will of course be monitoring its progress. We are currently expecting it

[OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Norman
I have resumed my daily generation of coastline files. These are generated with the coastcheck program[1] from my jxapi database starting at 5 AM pacific time. They take 3-4 hours to generate and upload, depending on my internet speed at the time. The completed files are uploaded to

Re: [OSM-talk] OT - Unusual Bing imagery

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: andrzej zaborowski [mailto:balr...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OT - Unusual Bing imagery On 24 July 2012 03:48, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-07-23 16:02, andrzej zaborowski wrote: The area in the screenshot seems to have a higher resolution than

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Norman
though I know when my runs finish. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:55 PM To: 'osm-talk' Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed I have resumed my daily generation of coastline files. These are generated with the coastcheck program[1] from

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction finished already?

2012-07-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction finished already? Jan Kučera wrote: Ok so are imports allowed again? Back in April I made this request: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg42372.html and I'd suggest that it

[OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical import: Empty relations 1

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
Now that the redaction bot has finished running, I want to propose what should be a simple uncontroversial mechanical edit (hah). I propose cleaning up two types of empty relations that are not members of other relations. - Those with no members and no tags - Those with no members and

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical import: Empty relations 1

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Werner Hoch [mailto:werner...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:33 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical import: Empty relations 1 Am Sonntag, den 29.07.2012, 02:06 -0700 schrieb Paul Norman: Now that the redaction bot has

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical import: Empty relations 1

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mike N [mailto:nice...@att.net] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical import: Empty relations 1 On 7/29/2012 5:06 AM, Paul Norman wrote: - Those with no members and no tags - Those with no members and type=multipolygon as the only tag Relations removed will be limited

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed

2012-08-03 Thread Paul Norman
Whoops - looks like I had disabled the cron job. Files should start uploading at about 2-3 AM UTC. -Original Message- From: Simone Cortesi [mailto:sim...@cortesi.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:34 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: osm-talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation

[OSM-talk] Indonesia Coastline - fixup needed

2012-08-05 Thread Paul Norman
I happened to notice the coastline for an entire island in South Sulawesi, Indonesia is missing. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.1219lon=120.4563zoom=14layers=M There also seem to be a lot of primary roads and few lower classifications. This actually may not be redaction related. I'm

[OSM-talk] DWG post-redaction bot cleanup

2012-08-21 Thread Paul Norman
uploading frequently is always a good idea. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG post-redaction bot cleanup

2012-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:01 AM To: osm-talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] DWG post-redaction bot cleanup On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: The Data Working Group is beginning to revert some copypaste

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG post-redaction bot cleanup

2012-08-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Stephan Knauss [mailto:o...@stephans-server.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] DWG post-redaction bot cleanup Hello Norman, On 26.08.2012 03:49, Paul Norman wrote: The redactions are being done from http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman%20redaction%20revert can you give a rough

[OSM-talk] Post-bot redactions finished

2012-09-02 Thread Paul Norman
. This does not mean that the license has changed. I am not in a position to comment on any other tasks that need to be completed before a switch to ODbL. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram

2012-09-02 Thread Paul Norman
Non-commercial only licenses discriminate against fields of endeavor and are definitely not open. See 6 of http://opensource.org/docs/osd or 8 of http://opendefinition.org/okd/. No derivative licenses are also not open - you can't modify the data. Another explanation is

[OSM-talk] Another live edit viewer

2012-09-03 Thread Paul Norman
I saw this mentioned on IRC but I haven't seen it here, so I figured I'd point out cquest's live edit viewer at: http://osm7.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/live/ It zooms in and shows you various edits and where people are editing worldwide. It unfortunately doesn't show you geometry. OSMZmiany is

Re: [OSM-talk] Reversion request

2012-09-07 Thread Paul Norman
to revert some subsequent changesets first. Paul Norman For the DWG ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
If you want to add additional wording you could do so. Your wording must make people aware that the data comes from OpenStreetMap and that it is available under the ODbL. Of course, you can only use the ODbL attribution after the new planet is published and you reload your database. If you

Re: [OSM-talk] Another reversion request (sorry)

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
Yikes. I have some tools that will work on the very large changesets, I'll get around to it tomorrow (heading to bed now). Also, if there's legal problems it needs to be redacted, not just deleted. -Original Message- From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday,

Re: [OSM-talk] Change to ODbL imminent

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Malcolm Herring [mailto:malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Change to ODbL imminent On 11/09/2012 17:16, Richard Weait wrote: About thirty hours later, that newly-generated planet file will be available What news? To quote TomH, a watched planet never dumps.

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:11 AM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance 2012/9/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Just to clarify this one point: The

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
Sending to imports@ and cc'ing talk@ as that's more widely read than the wiki talk pages. From: sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update Or, to make it even clearer, can I commit my change to the wiki without starting an edit

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Vincent de Chateau-Thierry [mailto:v...@laposte.net] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update Hi, Le 19/09/2012 22:55, Richard Weait a écrit : - Cadastre is not an import. Cadastre is an import. Could you do the same thing if there were no Cadastre to import?

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:41 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update On vendredi 21 septembre 2012, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Hi again, This is not about one rule. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update who last edited an object! ). Where the import HAS nice unique object identifiers things are a lot easier, but raw vector data like the French import, and I think the Spanish data you

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:47 PM To: 'OSM' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update Paul Norman wrote: From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Norman
My main machine is down at the moment so this isn't as detailed as I'd like, but I have a few thoughts.On Sep 25, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:A propos of the recent contretemps about Cadastre imports and separate accounts (excessive use of French in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Norman
On Sep 25, 2012, at 01:00 PM, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr wrote: The need to keep these conditions open-ended is a weakness that lets detractors claim that they are arbitrary, but I'm guessing that this is necessary to prevent users gaming the rules with stupid technical loopholes...

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:02 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines Tordanik wrote: If you want to address changes performed by scripts/bots, then why don't you just say so

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Olivier Croquette [mailto:m...@ocroquette.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre This is not an example that you only find after a long search; it is a typical cadastre import building.

Re: [OSM-talk] Pre-delete-bot

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Tony Morris [mailto:tonymor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:29 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Pre-delete-bot Hello, I am trying to get the OSM data prior to the running of the deletion bot. I am able to access CC-BY-SA licenced data from

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Conclusion: A significant number of cadastre imported buildings consist of multiple ways

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre 2012/9/27 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: Just so there is no misunderstanding: even taking address tagged nodes in to account, the addresses / houses ratio

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
sept. 2012 02:13 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : Obviously buildings are part of it, but is there a list of what else? Hi, I don't think there is a list. the information that you can find are highway references,street names,city boundaries,cemetery boundaries,buildings,house number

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 08:00 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : sorry this detailled here in section les differents calques wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cadastre_Français/Aspects_techni ques_du_cadastre_en_ligne and here qu est ce qui est reutilisable wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre to be allowed to use cadastre data we have to add a source key which is long about 40 characters to

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre I think the biggest cost for long tags that are heavily used is really in the planet file size. A bigger planet takes longer to generate, longer to

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre Am 30.09.2012 um 02:04 schrieb Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: in a city where the buildings are joined

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Vladimir Vyskocil [mailto:vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre The larger part of cadastre data is just dumped into the data base never to be touched again by any mapper. That's also wrong, the french

Re: [OSM-talk] Semi-automated edits - postal code database

2012-10-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:58 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Semi-automated edits - postal code database 2012/10/4 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: And, btw, you should not use the associatedStreet

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jean-Marc Liotier [mailto:j...@liotier.org] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration) Of course, international collaboration requires a common ground and the Internet has

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard way across edits to tag changesets

2012-10-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:41 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Standard way across edits to tag changesets Le dimanche 21 octobre 2012 22:26:56, Marc a écrit : Hi Thanks for your proposal. I commented

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Norman
Record a list of objects and monitor the minutely diffs for anything touching them. Additionally, if interested in areas, watch for any nodes created or moved into those areas. Bonus points if you get it watching for deletes. I have given thought to coding something like this - there are a

Re: [OSM-talk] Planning to retire OSMI's redaction view

2012-11-11 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:53 AM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] Planning to retire OSMI's redaction view Hi, I'm planning to retire OSMI's redaction view at the end of the month (unless I hear widespread protest).

[OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need

2012-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
The DWG periodically receives request to redact content from the database. As the person generally responsible for running those redactions, I thought I'd share some detail on what information I need to redact something. This is not going to cover the legal reasons to redact something. Those are

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need

2012-11-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: d...@osmfoundation.org [mailto:d...@osmfoundation.org] On Behalf Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:43 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; d...@osmfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need

2012-11-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:45 AM Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; d...@osmfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Planet dumps only

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered I'd rather deprecate platform for busses if anything. One of the problems with the bus stop tag, and hoping I don't reopen old arguments, is that due to a mistranslation in the wiki in

Re: [OSM-talk] obsolete TIGER-tags

2012-11-20 Thread Paul Norman
Aside from the automatically dropped tags there are: tiger:cfcc tiger:county tiger:name_base tiger:name_direction_suffix tiger:name_direction_prefix tiger:name_type tiger:reviewed tiger:zip_left tiger:zip_right My practice is to drop county if the county relation exists and is

Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Paul Norman
From: bruno [mailto:br...@anche.no] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki On mer, 2012-12-05 at 05:49 +0100, Roland Olbricht wrote: - use tags or tag keys that have been used quite often http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ What if a new way of tagging something gets approved? The

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Werner Hoch [mailto:werner...@gmx.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers That one looks strange to: 3490 OSMF Redaction Account I don't think that the redaction bot actively mapped adresses. I'd expect the redaction bot has mapped zero adresses. In certain scenarios the

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our buildings

2013-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 2013-01-06, at 7:50 PM, Nathan Mixter nmix...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if OSM could do the same thing. Could we buy as a group a program like Feature Analyst, eCognition or Imagine Objective and add buildings that way? We could combine the buildings with any existing address

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark My initial writeup could have been clearer: This RFC _does_ seek to replace the currently recommended line (c) OpenStreetMap contributors linking to http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ilya Zverev [mailto:zve...@textual.ru] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Hi. Since no one has explained, I'd quote a part from OSMF Board Meeting Minutes: OSMF received C+D letter from someone who trademarked the word “Geocode(TM)” and asks us to

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