Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 19:45 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: Hi everyone, We ask OSM mappers to check their local mapping areas, try and contact anyone who has not decided about re-licensing I have been considering a few well worded posts to other mailing lists such as Linux User Groups and

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Philip Barnes
I have started to remap the major roads that will disappear around the area I live in, Shropshire. It will be embarrassing for the community if holes appear in the M54 and the A5 on April 1st. The mappers, who are undecided, seemed to have a burst of mapping in the early days but seem to have

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 17:39 +, John Sturdy wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I don't really see the value of a generic noexit=yes tag - it can and should be inferred from the network. But finding dead ends can be valuable for tagging the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

2012-02-17 Thread Philip Barnes
There needs to be a means of using at least 2 languages, and possibly a means to know which areas use which language. In Wales, you can usually tell whether you are in a Welsh speaking area by the order of Araf and Slow painted onto the road. Afaf on top, it Welsh. Slow on top then its English

[OSM-talk] Mapping disused railway lines

2012-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
I have been exploring my 'new' local area recently, and GPS surveying many roads that had been traced from NPE mapping and bore little resemblance to what is on the ground. But that is the easy stuff. My problem is that where one of these roads crosses the path of the disused Wellington to Market

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping disused railway lines

2012-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 12:45 +, Craig Wallace wrote: On 26/02/2012 11:57, Philip Barnes wrote: My problem is that where one of these roads crosses the path of the disused Wellington to Market Drayton railway, there is a stone bridge over the road with a height restriction. For a working

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping disused railway lines

2012-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 13:51 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 26. Februar 2012 12:57 schrieb Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: My problem is that where one of these roads crosses the path of the disused Wellington to Market Drayton railway, there is a stone bridge over the road

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-02 Thread Philip Barnes
I have found some interesting stuff whilst playing with routing on http://open.mapquest.org (which uses OSM). Have found that it cannot route to Shrewsbury. Have found that the town waypoint has been put in the middle of a retail area, with pedestrianised streets around. Am guessing it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Lightning fast car routing built on OpenStreetMap data, with draggable routes

2012-03-17 Thread Philip Barnes
It does not work for me, just says timed out and if I enter say Inverness into one of the boxes and hit show nothing happens. I can see your routes by clicking the links however. The Inverness to Athens route does seem a bit bizarre. Not what I would have expected. Crossing the Pennines on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Komuna e Malishevës, Serbia ?

2012-04-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 09:43 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: RB wrote: It has nothing to do with taking side or whatever, but I am just saying that is is a complicated situation and that our map should try to reflect it. Actually I think something is broken with 'Location' ... Apparently

[OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Barnes
Anyone else try to fix bugs off there? I have tried as I want to improve OSM. I am increasingly finding it a waste of time, too many bugs are labelled 'other' and just don't have enough info to work out what the problem is. In these cases I usually close them, and work on the ones that are

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 10:40 -0400, Mike N wrote: Not totally useless, and quality of reports varies, but they have identified some routing problems for me. I also find most of the 'other' class reports to be unusable without an explanation from the reporter. Occasionally you can spot

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 12:20 -0400, Mike N wrote: On 4/6/2012 11:13 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: Have spotted one problem, not got a clue if its what was reported, where the route was going onto a roundabout, rather than using the bypass lane. Have changed the bypass to 'Trunk link' from

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 10:48 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Apr 6, 2012 7:25 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Anyone else try to fix bugs off there? I have tried as I want to improve OSM. I do regularly in the Oklahoma, Kansas, Oregon and Washington areas. I am

Re: [OSM-talk] Global consistency of the map (trunk etc.)

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 20:16 +0200, Jan Kučera wrote: Hi guys, I guess we need to standardize some things accross the whole globe... for instance the usage of trunk tag... somewhere (like UK) it is single-carriage and elsewhere dual-carriage, one lane vs. multiple lanes. current approach

Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and 'internationalization' in place names

2012-04-16 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 14:26 +0200, Claudius wrote: Am 16.04.2012 11:36, Andrew Errington: On Mon, April 16, 2012 16:54, Maarten Deen wrote: snip Wouldn't it be an idea to tag the name in the characterset of the country and have the renderer decide whether or not to render a name:en tag

Re: [OSM-talk] New editors

2012-04-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 17:28 +, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more than 2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in

Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit

2012-04-23 Thread Philip Barnes
I can imagine it could be annoying if you are stopped in a tunnel and it switches off and later logs are then lost. Phil On 23/04/2012 6:37 Martijn van Exel wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: [..] The Columbus V-900 is $89. Charges via USB,

Re: [OSM-talk] 3 months of OSM

2012-04-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:07 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 04/30/2012 08:50 PM, Douglas Musaazi wrote: The German contributor could have his/her information liked by the German Electricity board High-voltage lines are not just for electricity buffs: they are also highly visible

[OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4

2012-05-19 Thread Philip Barnes
Since updating my TomTom Go 720 to Navcore version 9.4 TTTracklog no longer works and I could really use some new GPS traces for OSM mapping. Google doesn't help, beyond confirming I am not the only one. Has anyone any pointers to getting it working, or to an alternative GPS data logger so that I

Re: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4

2012-05-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 14:47 +0200, Alberto Nogaro wrote: -Original Message- From: Alberto Nogaro [mailto:bartosom...@yahoo.it] Sent: domenica 20 maggio 2012 14:23 To: 'Philip Barnes' Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4 -Original Message- From: Philip

[OSM-talk] Old versions of OSM?

2012-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
Is it possible to view an older rendering of OSM, such as how an area was mapped earlier this year/last year. Thanks Phil (trig222) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMapWidget

2012-06-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 00:04 +0200, Aleksandra Milanovic wrote: Hey guys, Give me an opinion on my GSoC project: http://sandra-milanovic.github.com/OpenStreetMapWidget/ (it's a work in progress and not all of the functionalities are implemented yet) All the best, Sandra point(s). Hi

[OSM-talk] In Germany errors on mapdust

2012-06-18 Thread Philip Barnes
I regularly see errors posted on mapdust similar to this, I have put in a UK destination in Shrewsbury but the map appears to be in Germany. I have been closing these as they are nothing to do with OSM, but anyone have any idea why they occur, and why is it always Germany? I am seeing them in

Re: [OSM-talk] Lightning fast car routing built on OpenStreetMap data, with draggable routes

2012-07-11 Thread Philip Barnes
OSRM is mostly awesome. Map changes are reflected within a very short period after an edit, however routing updates can be much slower. It would be great if it was possible to find out the date of the OSM data being used by the router. I did some corrections to roundabouts on the A41, I will

Re: [OSM-talk] Shoud OSM Help move to Stackexchange community?

2012-08-29 Thread Philip Barnes
Sounds a bad idea, have never heard of Stackexchange so would be reluctant to sign up, and another login/password to maintain and remember, no thanks. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/08/2012 22:55 Dan Dascalescu wrote: Reiterating here a question from

Re: [OSM-talk] Shoud OSM Help move to Stackexchange community?

2012-08-29 Thread Philip Barnes
Except I, and I am sure many others, do not have OpenID either. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 29/08/2012 17:25 LM_1 wrote: Stackexchange uses OpenID so no new login/password would actually be needed. I am using the same OpenID osm and StackExchange. LM_1 2012/8/29 Philip Barnes p

Re: [OSM-talk] Another live edit viewer

2012-09-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Looks good in Firefox on my phone, neither work with IE8 on my corporate desktop however. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 04/09/2012 10:57 cquest wrote: A newer (cleaner) version is available at http://live.openstreetmap.fr/ We designed it for demo purpose, but the backend will allow

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap GPS Points Map

2012-09-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 17:05 +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:15:50AM -0600, Martijn van Exel wrote: Another thing I noticed is how many people apparently successfully record traces from airplaines. I almost never get a signal on an airplane. Do you keep the receiver in

Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response

2012-09-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 01:10 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/9/21 Bráulio brauliobeze...@gmail.com: Question: I don't have iOS6 here. Is the map data the same as shown on http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/ ? (Choose Apple iPhoto on the combobox) no, it is different. In the meantime I

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Chicago's pedways

2012-09-27 Thread Philip Barnes
I found similar issues with the cycleway network here in Telford. It had been drawn in total isolation to the rest of the map, no joins where it crossed roads or footways. I have fixed it now. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 27/09/2012 4:26 David Turner wrote: Chicago's pedway system on

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Philip Barnes
I would prefer to keep the source tag with the object. Within a changeset I will often have some roads where source is GPS, have traced some buildings from bing, and added a few pub/shop names where source is survey Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/09/2012 8:55 Shaun McDonald wrote: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Philip Barnes
Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/09/2012 9:21 Lester Caine wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with

[OSM-talk] Searching OSM

2012-10-01 Thread Philip Barnes
Is there a way to search for a node type where it is on a way of a type, or types? An example would be gates on trunk or primary roads. The reason is, I was using OSRM to plan a route yesterday and spotted that it was avoiding a section of primary road. Closer investigation found that where a

Re: [OSM-talk] Searching OSM

2012-10-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 17:20 +0100, Gregory wrote: Where did you spot this happening, have a look at the history to see if you can identify the user (especially if it is a recent edit). The node on the map is here, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.32974lon=-2.5678zoom=16layers=M however

Re: [OSM-talk] Searching OSM

2012-10-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 19:19 +0200, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hi Phil, Is there a way to search for a node type where it is on a way of a type, or types? An example would be gates on trunk or primary roads. Yes, there is a way. Please paste

Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?

2012-10-04 Thread Philip Barnes
You mean American college girls use IRC? Are you mixing it up with tw@ter? -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 04/10/2012 10:59 Dave F. wrote: On 03/10/2012 21:17, Ilya Zverev wrote: Since today, after a discussion on #osm, only these potlatch edits that modify or delete relations are marked as

Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing?

2012-11-09 Thread Philip Barnes
I think you mean t-shirt, made me smile anyway. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 09/11/2012 20:08 deng dongpo wrote: Hi Jeff and all I heard that the SteveC considered an address is high priority for making OSM more usable from Dan Cooke, who is a keynote in ACM GeoCrowd.

Re: [OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance

2012-11-14 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 01:35 +0700, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all we develop a POI VIewer on Leaftlet, with distance around 300 POI around 10 km. the engine develop using hibernate with Lucense, Hibernate SEarch.. www.hibernate.org this search is the search engine which power the

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Philip Barnes
To tag bus stops as platform surely requires a survey? Tram stops tend to have platforms, as of course do railway stations of course. Bus stops are normally flat however. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 17/11/2012 8:14 Jo wrote: Hi, In April 2011 a new schema was approved for tagging

[OSM-talk] View tag details

2012-12-16 Thread Philip Barnes
On the main osm map, under the edit tab, until recently there used to be a 3rd option. It was below the Edit in Potlatch, Edit in JOSM/Mercator and allowed you to select ways and view tag details and history without having to edit the area. It was useful, does anyone know where/why is has gone?

Re: [OSM-talk] View tag details

2012-12-16 Thread Philip Barnes
Thanks guys Found it. Cheers Phil On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 19:42 +0100, hbogner wrote: Look right top in layers(Standar, Cycle Map, ..) option. On 12/16/2012 07:32 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: On the main osm map, under the edit tab, until recently there used to be a 3rd option

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Philip Barnes
When using OSM on my phone, windscreen mount, whilst driving I find the biggest contrast problem is the green of forests can mask the green of trunk roads, where the road passes through forest Would be nice is the forest green could be lighter. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 05:19 -0800, NopMap wrote: Rob Nickerson wrote This has led to a discussion about how the rendering 'looks' with some arguing that it doesn't look that good. I believe that this may be due to the shade of colour used – specifically the farmland 'brown' is not as

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi tag rendering (Was Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?)

2013-01-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 17:24 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: The problem is with the mapper mixing up linear and polygon features on the same osm object. You could tag a way with barrier=hedge and then add this way as outer way to a multipolygon relation tagged with landuse=farmland.

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-07 Thread Philip Barnes
Green grass would be useful to differentiate between pasture and use a lighter brown for arable fields. Not much farmland is tagged at present, but I it was envisage the map becoming largely brown which will not be attractive. Most areas that are currently default background are in reality

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-09 Thread Philip Barnes
+1 I too would like OSM to become the goto site for maps and directions. I work in a large office, and to walk down the office and not see google maps on somebodys screen is rare. I do try to promote OSM, or OSRM when asked a where is, how to get to question and try to wean people of google.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki documentation on GPS devices - please help answer some questions

2013-01-20 Thread Philip Barnes
GPS tracks is more commonly used in English than traces. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 20/01/2013 15:48 Tobias Knerr wrote: On 19.01.2013 14:54, Rob Nickerson wrote: Really the page titles should be updated to Recording GPS traces, Converting GPS traces and Uploading GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] Revival: Multilingual Country-List

2013-02-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 15:50 +0100, Frank Steggink wrote: On 20-2-2013 10:47, Peter Körner wrote: Hi I revived the Multilingual Country-List tool. Now with Overpass-API as source, it's a useful tool again. If you find the time, head over to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

2013-02-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 11:37 -0500, william skora wrote: Hi, I was curious us to hear what others have been using to tag music venues. There's numerous places in my city that hold upwards of 1,000 people for music concerts (also called 'shows'). In the US, they're indoors, serve alcohol,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

2013-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I would support amenity=music_venue, it describes this type of place. I looked at my local music_venue and it was tagged as leisure=music_venue Leisure seems to have slightly more (62) than amenity (56) at the moment. I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Extracting data from traffic sign recognition aboard modern cars ?

2013-04-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:37 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 04/20/2013 09:20 AM, NopMap wrote: Paul Johnson-3 wrote Sounds like all the more reason to try this. Not a good idea. If you break anything trying to hack into the driver assistance functions, you might cause an accident,

Re: [OSM-talk] Still need for spam protection and if yes, what about OSM-based CATPCHA?

2013-05-07 Thread Philip Barnes
CATPCHAs are pure evil, I would like to see their use made a criminal offence as I am sure that they contravene the Disability Discrimination Act. When faced with the things I tend to go somewhere else, they use such hard to read characters and always take several attempts. If reporting an error

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-09 Thread Philip Barnes
Would a reasonable compromise be to provide links to projects that use osm? Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 09/07/2013 11:30 Simon Poole wrote: Am 09.07.2013 11:25, schrieb o...@k3v.eu: My ideal solution would be to have a gmaps style integrated site mainly as a shop window

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

2013-09-24 Thread Philip Barnes
oneway=yes;no is clearly wrong, and not a tag where semicolons should supported. However amenity=pub;hotel makes perfect sense. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 24/09/2013 8:54 Jochen Topf wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 09:50:41AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

2013-09-24 Thread Philip Barnes
: Am 24/set/2013 um 10:13 schrieb Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: However amenity=pub;hotel makes perfect sense. besides that hotels are mapped as tourism=hotel cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

2013-09-24 Thread Philip Barnes
which tag is the most important to its user. Going back to the pub/hotel, a walking/cycling map may want to render a pub, whereas a tourism map may want to render a hotel. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 24/09/2013 9:40 Tobias Knerr wrote: On 24.09.2013 10:13, Philip Barnes

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

2013-09-26 Thread Philip Barnes
! Philip Barnes wrote However amenity=pub;hotel makes perfect sense. Only in a very academical way. It would force an additional processing step onto every data consumer and as you can read in Jochens result, in practice it is not evaluated at all. It's just using randomly invented tags which

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 12:04 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: Actually, I always wondered why timezones were kept out of OSM. I know DST complicates tagging (it'll be the first thing I abolish when I become World Dictator), but it seem like a very usefull political boundary that I'd like to

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 09:28 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: Frederik Ramm writes: Hi, On 10/19/2013 12:04 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: I'd love to replace the unwieldy timezone selector of many programs with a clickable map generated from OSM. So, do timezones really make no sense

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 10:10 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: Philip Barnes writes: So we should not include country, state, principality, county, city, town, parish boundaries either as unless its an island aren't surveyable either. If ClosedStreetMap.com was more than a figment of my

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Thread Philip Barnes
It is not always possible to separate admin boundaries from real world features. Rivers, roads or even hedges often define a boundary. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 21/10/2013 15:41 Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping of multiple-lane toll areas

2013-10-24 Thread Philip Barnes
Is cash precise enough? Some exits off the M6 Toll accept payment by electronic pass, cards and coins, but not notes as those exits are unmanned. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 24/10/2013 1:38 Paul Johnson wrote: I've been using payment:pikepass=yes payment:cash=no on

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database

2013-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
Admin boundaries can also be seen, and surveyed, where the tarmac changes. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 05/11/2013 14:37 Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 05 November 2013, Jochen Topf wrote: [...] And it is totally unclear how things that are supposed to be changed

Re: [OSM-talk] Watchlist?

2013-12-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-11-30 at 17:49 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Let's put it on the wishlist, then. Mediawiki offers the functionality I'm looking for, though it'd be nice if the OSM equivalent could do that without having to view the object to continue to receive notifications. On Sat, Nov 30,

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-12-02 Thread Philip Barnes
open.mapquest.co.uk only seems to find banks and bars that are mapped as nodes. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 02/12/2013 13:16 Barry Hunter wrote: On 1 December 2013 12:37, Lester Caine wrote: The new setup seems to be saying 'if you are not here to map go away!' If this

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Philip Barnes
I think that is happening, I am seeing a steady steam of new editors, with the name of a business, adding businesses. A lot also just add a note. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 10/12/2013 15:52 Clifford Snow wrote: I saw the thread but must have missed the website. I also

Re: [OSM-talk] Horse trails. Good examples?

2013-12-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-12-22 at 09:18 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: Hi all, Are there good examples of horse trails and horse 'infrastructure' in OpenStreetMap data? Links please? What makes a well-mapped horse trail facility? Parking with horse trailer parking indicated? Blacksmith shop with

Re: [OSM-talk] Street cabinets

2014-02-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 11:42 -0700, Murry McEntire wrote: Street cabinet has no meaning in my region. Looking at manufacturer's sites and google images, I do see the term in use in Britain (and some other places) for above ground enclosures with vertical hinged doors. Did you also mean to

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Inthe UK the boundaries were there long before road maintenance was thought of. A couple of real life examples http://osm.org/go/eu5Dsjb0--?layers =N The border between Leicestershire and Warwickshire has been split to either side of Watling Street to solve the problem of maintenance. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 10:28 -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: Part of the border of Davidson County in Tennessee, USA runs down the centerline of a road. The village of Llanymynech straddles the England (Shropshire)/Wales (Powis) border, the border runs up the middle of the main street (A483)

Re: [OSM-talk] Hate captchas!!!!

2014-03-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2014-03-21 at 14:22 +0100, Richard Z. wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 07:17:26AM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote: Hi Richard, hi Simon At 2014-03-14 16:19 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole wrote At 14.03.2014 16:06, schrieb Richard Z.: is there really no way to avoid those horrible captchas

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?

2014-04-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 23:03 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: How best should I tag informal swimming areas? These typically have no lifeguard or facilities. An example deep-content site for these types of holes is: http://www.iforgotthename.com/ In OSM is it best to create an area and tag

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 11:00 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Well... Private messages tell me that boules might be popular outside of France, so here is a translation for a more international debate... According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dboules a petanque pitch

Re: [OSM-talk] undiscussed (?) mechanical edit on diet:vegan and diet:vegetarian

2014-05-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-05-20 at 13:25 -0300, John Packer wrote: For a more complete picture: This user (BuganiniQ) first added diet:vegetarian=yes and diet:vegan=yes to places with cuisine=vegan, and diet:vegetarian=yes to places with cuisine=vegetarian. It does not seem too much of a stretch to do

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 23:14 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. Can we not admit to error? Y'all should try it -- it puts hair on your chest and makes your boobs bigger

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 13:52 +0200, malenki wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:00:32 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: Abandoned railways are also potential footpaths, cycleways, again not showing them makes locating potential useful rights of way claims more difficult. I'd assume that mappers

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-08-10 at 15:13 +0100, John Sturdy wrote: I wonder whether these incorrect speed limit notes might not be reporting that the speed limit on the map isn't what it is on the road, but someone objecting to what the speed limit on the road is, and making a token protest about it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 12:38 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Have there been cases where at the time the note was created the speed limit in osm was actually correct? Yes, this one which I closed yesterday, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/214534 Only to now spot this one appearing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 09:54 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: On 10/08/14 21:16, Norbert Wenzel wrote: Since these notes are automatically generated there's no on you could ask for clarifications, which is needed for all issues. And that has been tried. The quality of these reports has already

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing common possible Tagging Mistakes

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 14:00 +0200, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote: Le 11/08/2014 11:52, Pieren a écrit : On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Also feel free to add the code to other pages or remove/discuss it if you think it doesn't fit somewhere.

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 02:22 +0200, Andreas Vilén wrote: The user in question now told me he's been using the Wisepilot app: http://www.appello.com/apps/wisepilot/ and seemed totally oblivious to it being a mystery, and that it creates strange and unhelpful notes in most cases. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Barnes
Then there are what I expect are temporary limits for some reason being reported. Such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/219321#c438501 The permanent limit here is correctly posted as 70 mph. Phil (trigpoint) ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:14 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: Speed limits that are an odd multiple of 5 are common in the USA. For example, the most common speed limit on motorways within cities is 55 mph. 15 mph is a common speed limit near schools at the times of day when children are

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-08-21 at 19:20 +0100, Dave F. wrote: Hi http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=18159_noCache=on This route relation appears to be just for the B3070. Isn't that a waste of time as it's covered by the ref tags on the ways? I thought route relations were a way

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 02:06 +0100, Kolossos wrote: I would like to keep it as simple as possible and I don't want to replace the OSM-Wiki where all usefull combinations of tags are described. You would not only destroy the URL to the OSM-Wiki you would also damage the format checking tools

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 18:14 +, Dave Corley wrote: As I see it there are 3 options here 1. Do an import, but its not accurate enough for an import - 500 POI's will never be fully vetted. 2. Add a note so that someone can map it either from imagery or a ground survey - 500

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Feb 17 10:15:26 2015 GMT, StephaneP wrote: Thanks for this useful feature ! I have one request : A reverse start/destination button. Is there a way to add a via, in osrm it is drag the route, but can't do it here. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning errors consistent with smartphone GPS units, up to 30 meters. In each case I was able to find the station in a field check, then manually rectify the exact location.

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing Applications

2015-06-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 09:00 +, Janko Mihelić wrote: If you ask me, they are all in their infancy. Non of these routing services even route right. In a turn restriction the via role can be a way. Neither OSRM, ORS or GraphHopper knows how to restrict that, and that's IMHO one of the crucial

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 22:20 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes, I've thought about that; name:en is very useful for me but ultimately, if the locals don't use it, then it isn't on the ground, and then it shouldn't be in OSM really. Absolutely agree, there is a tendency to have name for places

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:14 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: And as it happens, Абергавенни comes from Abergavenny rather than Y Fenni, showing that some discernment was applied. Not sure I understand that statement, transliterating Y Fenni is equally valid in my view. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:58 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: What's wrong with name ? What's the UK policy on the content of name for places with Welsh and English names ? If you want to see Welsh names as often as possible but still make the local name more prominent, use local name (welsh

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 07:56 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: I've seen this topic being discussed here or elsewhere in the past. I thought that the consensus was that in some area's (a Spanish town I believe), it was ok to leave the oneway=no. The reasoning was that most streets in that town were

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 11:05 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote: On 30/05/2015 07:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: I happened to drive through Belgium a few days ago, heading home. A good approximation of home in this case is name=Köln. Actually, I found a street sign (150 km away from Köln) that reads

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanical name edit? (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 20:55 +1000, Warin wrote: On 30/05/2015 8:41 PM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hi, On 05/30/2015 09:48 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Thank you for informing the community. Do you actually have substantial evidence of a mechanical edit or something similar? There are a

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 20:17 +1000, Warin wrote: On 30/05/2015 6:00 PM, Johan C wrote: The values used in the destination tag (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination) should always display the exact name as it is shown on the signpost I guess it adds verification that the

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 21:39 +0900, Max wrote: On 2015년 08월 22일 19:23, Lester Caine wrote: The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services, and any change needs to be managed in such a manor that those services are not too badly affected. We do not have a

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for Default Map style - pull requested is opened

2015-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 10:22 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 12/08/15 23:18, Andrew Hain wrote: We have a great opportunity for a spot of promotion. Publish a post on our blog announcing the new style and explaining the reasoning behind it. Don’t forget to remind people that there’s a wide

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity statistics per city (or region)

2015-10-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Oct 27 10:05:04 2015 GMT, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > Þann 27.10.2015 07:09, Paul Norman reit: > > On 10/26/2015 8:24 AM, Fabian Schmidt wrote: > >> It is rare but there are users who renamed their account, so there are > >> more user names than numeric user ids. > > > > No. Although

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