Hello Peter,
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:41:11 +0200 GMT (29/Apr/09, 23:41 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote in mid:1556876605.20090429184...@nosuchdomain.com:
PM How about proper S/MIME support?
Please let me know what is wrong with TB!'s S/MIME support. I will
need to use it in the near future by wish
On Friday, May 1, 2009, 7:58:38 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
You were right that we've chosen inappropriate phrases, may be in beta .19
it will get better.
when I try to choose a specific date and time, and tick the time and
use the arrows to scroll it only allows me to scroll one hour, or
Mittwoch, 29. April 2009 at 11:25, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
A few more thoughts brought me to this real flexible solution (see
attachment).
+1 Good Work! Did you think about moving to Chisinau? ;-)
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Samstag, 2. Mai 2009 at 02:57, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
You were right, while remaking the dialog we've lost some links
that turn off some checkboxes when the user clicks the other... It
should have been impossible to check them all. You can try .19 to figure out
that it is all right.
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-05-02 · 03:06 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
The postponed sending dialog is the graphical editor for the small
textual argument of the %POSTPONE macro, e.g. “+2h” means “add two
hours” or “8:12” means send on 8:12 today if it’s before 8:12,
otherwise send tomorrow
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2009-05-02 · 18:11 h (CET)]
Moin, Jens!
+1 Good Work! Did you think about moving to Chisinau? ;-)
Ummm, I have to think about it, but I am afraid that my Moldovan and
Russian are definitively not good enough. ;-)
Cheers!
VA
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Sonntag, 3. Mai 2009 at 01:12, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
Is there still any confusion left?
No, i love it!
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Hello Mse,
Sunday, April 26, 2009, 13:38:12, you wrote:
1. Another typo is in Temlate macro. The p is missing.
Thank you, we have just fixed it, but the last beta came out before this.
2. What exactly is the macro for a message delay? The user interface
here says '%DELAY=...' in QT it is
Hello Netvicious,
Sunday, April 26, 2009, 0:17:45, you wrote:
But when we are defining a custom delay for a message I think the more
button should not be applied here. I suggest you to place the text
with the real date-time of the sending without pressing any button,
because it's a good
Hello Volker,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 0:00:35, you wrote:
The arrows of the Time box do not work (see attachment), but you can
type a different time in the corresponding field.
This is a behaviour of a standard windows calendar control. Do you know other
software when it works not the same as
Hello Jens,
Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 14:49:07, you wrote:
And i still do not understand why to compare to a date?
Maybe, the wording was too perplexing Now we have rephrased it and it is
now easier to understand without sacrifice in functionality.
For me it would be enough if the Dialog
Hello Jens,
Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 15:06:53, you wrote:
That is enough (until i understand why to have more than that):
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/screen78.png
You were right, while remaking the dialog we've lost some links that turn off
some checkboxes when the user clicks the other... It
Hello Roger,
Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 15:13:48, you wrote:
OK, you are perhaps correct about there not being any other way to test, but
I'm still not sure exactly what is meant by an 'arbitrary' date and time, as
distinct from a required time that is set in the 'postponed' programme.
You were
Hello Volker,
Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:25:10, you wrote:
A few more thoughts brought me to this real flexible solution (see
attachment).
Thank you for some nice thoughts!
The postponed sending dialog is the graphical editor for the small textual
argument of the %POSTPONE macro, e.g.
Hello Volker,
Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 18:42:22, you wrote:
Did you see my latest draft for the dialog?
Yes, this dialog have made a valuable contribution to further design of the
dialog that you may see in the .19 beta.
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Maxim Masiutin
Ritlabs SRL
Hello Volker,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 0:00:35, you wrote:
The arrows of the Time box do not work (see attachment), but you can
type a different time in the corresponding field.
This is a behaviour of a standard windows calendar control. Do
you know other software when it works not the same
Hello Volker,
Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 18:50:01, you wrote:
And that has nearly nothing to do with the [More]-Button. So please
think about my dialog draft. :-)
We will probably remove the more button when it is not needed and/or replace
it with another control, like in the attached image.
On Friday, May 1, 2009, 7:58:38 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
You were right that we've chosen inappropriate phrases, may be in beta .19 it
will get better.
when I try to choose a specific date and time, and tick the time and
use the arrows to scroll it only allows me to scroll one hour, or
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2009-04-29 · 01:05 h (CET)]
The problem is in this case the user will have to click the GUI for
each for the message sent, like in Outlook. We want to give an
option to to configure the postponed sending autmatically for every
message, so the user will simply
Hello Volker,
Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:52:32 PM, you wrote:
Okay, leave the info, that the postponed message will be sent on …
But the test section – even for messages that are automatically
created by sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick templates –
is IMHO of no real need.
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-29 · 15:59 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
But the test section – even for messages that are automatically
created by sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick templates –
is IMHO of no real need.
That's why we have implemented the More button. Those who do
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2009-04-29 · 17:42 h (CET)]
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-29 · 15:59 h (CET)]
But the test section – even for messages that are automatically
created by sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick
templates – is IMHO of no real need.
That's why we
I can't believe so much time is being devoted to the Postponed Sending
dialogue subject. Is there not more important issues?..
Steve.H
Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat
[Reply to: »Steve Harris« · 2009-04-29 · 17:56 h (CET)]
I can't believe so much time is being devoted to the Postponed
Sending dialogue subject. Is there not more important issues?..
IMAP? Drafts folder? Number of attachments? … Um, no!
Cheers!
VA
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Hi Steve,
on Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:56:20 +0100GMT (29.04.2009, 17:56 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:
SH I can't believe so much time is being devoted to the Postponed Sending
SH dialogue subject. Is there not more important issues?..
I agree with you here completely.
How about proper S/MIME
miércoles, 29 abr 2009 at 11:25, it seems you wrote:
A few more thoughts brought me to this real flexible solution (see
attachment).
Your draft02 gets my vote. But I think radiobuttons should not be on
the left of the other. They should be below the previous one.
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Hello Mau,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 2:03:40, you wrote:
Hold for...
( ) Hours ( ) Minutes ( ) Seconds
... and then send.
Your idea to use the tail ...and then send is excellent! But it gives another
complication. The user can combine hold over (2) days and use specific time
8:00 for,
Hello Mau,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 2:03:40, you wrote:
So, my suggestion would be to make the
title be 'Postponed/Scheduled Sending'.
This is a nice idea. At least The Bat! uses it's scheduler and creates events
to send the messages.
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Maxim Masiutin
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-28 · 10:54 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
Hold for...
( ) Hours ( ) Minutes ( ) Seconds
... and then send.
Your idea to use the tail ...and then send is excellent!
+1
But it gives another complication. The user can combine hold over
(2) days and use specific
Hello Volker,
Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:20:14, you wrote:
Either you want to send a message in x days/hours/minutes or at a
specific time. But please do not mix it up and confuse the user.
No, the idea is to combine both of the options.
Instead of the mentioned above, one can say: Send
Hello Maxim,
Hold for...
( ) Hours ( ) Minutes ( ) Seconds
... and then send.
Your idea to use the tail ...and then send is excellent!
Thank you :(
But it gives another complication. The user can combine hold over
(2) days and use specific time 8:00 for, example, which means that
the
Hello Maxim,
So, my suggestion would be to make the title be 'Postponed/Scheduled
Sending'.
This is a nice idea. At least The Bat! uses it's scheduler and creates
events to send the messages.
Well, with this one, it is 3 beers in total that you owe me ;-)
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Miguel A. Urech
Hello Volker,
But it gives another complication. The user can combine hold over
(2) days and use specific time 8:00 for, example, which means
that the message will be send in 8:00 in two days after today.
This may be a nice try, but please keep it simple:
Either you want to send a message
Hello Volker,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 23:36:02, you wrote:
I would suggest to remove most of the More part at the bottom of the
dialog. = See attachments.
Why do you suggest to remove it?
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Maxim Masiutin
Ritlabs SRL
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Hello Roger,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:40:48, you wrote:
It is not clear to me just what is the need for Test against an arbitrary
date and time in the future.
This can be useful, for example, for messages that are automatically created by
sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-28 · 11:31 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
I would suggest to remove most of the More part at the bottom of the
dialog. = See attachments.
Why do you suggest to remove it?
Okay, leave the info, that the postponed message will be sent on …
But the test section –
Dienstag, 28. April 2009 at 11:20, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
Either you want to send a message in x days/hours/minutes or at a
specific time. But please do not mix it up and confuse the user.
Instead of the mentioned above, one can say: Send message April 30,
8:00 h. – Where is the problem?
+1
Dienstag, 28. April 2009 at 11:31, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
I would suggest to remove most of the More part at the bottom of the
dialog. = See attachments.
That is enough (until i understand why to have more than that):
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/screen78.png
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With kind Regards
Jens Franik
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-28 · 11:31 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
I would suggest to remove most of the More part at the bottom of the
dialog. = See attachments.
Why do you suggest to remove it?
Okay, leave the info, that the postponed message will be sent on …
But the test section –
Hello Jens,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 22:52:00, you wrote:
Yes, exept of the lower part with the compare against date..
How do you suggest to improve it?
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Maxim Masiutin
Ritlabs SRL
http://www.ritlabs.com/
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-28 · 11:40 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
The problem is in this case the user will have to click the GUI for
each for the message sent, like in Outlook. We want to give an
option to to configure the postponed sending autmatically for every
message, so the user
Sonntag, 26. April 2009 at 11:06, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to understand
Yes, exept of the lower part with the compare against date..
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With kind Regards
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2009-04-27 · 21:52 h (CET)]
Moin, Jens!
Sonntag, 26. April 2009 at 11:06, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to
understand
Yes, exept of the lower part with the compare against date..
I would suggest to remove
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-26 · 11:06 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to
understand or even harder to understand? There were some TBBETA
subscribers that have found the old one very perplexing. We need
your feedback.
The arrows
Hello Tbbeta,
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to understand
or even harder to understand? There were some TBBETA subscribers that have
found the old one very perplexing. We need your feedback.
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Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin
Ritlabs
Hi,
For me the Postponed Sending Dialogue menu in 118 make perfect sense
although I can't say I'd ever use it myself ;-)
Are the attachment icons on the fix list?
Regards
Steve Harris
MM Hello Tbbeta,
MM
MM Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier
MM to understand
Hi Max,
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to
understand or even harder to understand? There were some TBBETA subscribers
that have found the old one very perplexing. We need your feedback.
I had to look in my dictionary what 'Postponed' ment. :-)
With f.i
Hello Gunivortus,
Hi Max,
When adding a new delay item, above the description there's only the letter
'm'.
I suppose, that will be changed in 'Description'.
1. Another typo is in Temlate macro. The p is missing.
2. What exactly is the macro for a message delay? The user interface
here
Yes the dialogue in last beta build is more usable than old one. Thanks
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Italy
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domingo, 26 abr 2009 at 11:06, it seems you wrote:
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to
understand or even harder to understand? There were some TBBETA
subscribers that have found the old one very perplexing. We need your
feedback.
Here it's my opinion.
When
Hello Maxim,
Do you think that the new Postponed Sending dialogue is easier to
understand or even harder to understand? There were some TBBETA
subscribers that have found the old one very perplexing. We need your
feedback.
I didn't install the two previous versions, so I can't compare
Hello Miguel,
Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:03:40 AM, among other things, you wrote:
M 'Postponed Sending' is correct for the dialog title but, in purity, the
M term 'postponed' would apply only to the first part of the dialog. That
M is, 'Send in 2 hrs', or 'Send in 10 minutes', etc. Aside of
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