Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

Hi Plan9 - On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, at 22:54:04 [GMT -0400] (which was 7:54 PM where I live) you wrote: > Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: > For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is > concerned. I have been gettin

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: RO> The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour RO> later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is RO> that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me. For me weird things have been

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

budgies and bunnies, and sent you a PM to tease you and ask you for a favor, something I couldn't find in the Help file. :gdr: :timemachine: -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current ve

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

Hallo Roelof, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:29:30 +0200GMT (12-7-2004, 17:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: It surprised me somewhat that this piece of shit didn't appear any sooner on this list. I wanted

Re: The Bat! Help files

; ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. J> Who can you blame if not RitLabs? You're arguing about the false part of my statement. I didn't mean to say that you shouldn't blame RitLabs for the help deficiencies, but not as much as everybody seems

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

apidly that any Help file would soon be MB>> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB>> the latest Full Release. AJ> Too rapidly then. Documentation is part of a product. Let's face it, AJ> how many newcomers would stick with it if this li

Re: The Bat! Help files

Hallo Allister, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ> Documentation is part of a product. Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files

x27;t say that TB is the best documented program RO> ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. Who can you blame if not RitLabs? This has been hashed many times on the list, and many folks truly believe that the poor help system has only served to hold back TB

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

Hello Allister! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:34 AM, you wrote: MB>> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB>> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB>> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, a

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:06:58 PM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I hav

The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

Hello Jimmie! On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 1:32 PM, you wrote: JT> Some instruction would be nice not just for Bayeslt but the entire program. You are not alone. Among my first complaints here, during the evaluation phase of my acquaintance with The Bat!, was that I could not understand the H

Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

Sunday, July 11, 2004, 10:36:48 AM, Thomas wrote: TF> But the DELE command doesn't delete the message, it only flags it for TF> deletion. The deletion will be executed on the server when the QUIT TF> command is received. You are correct. This heightened my curiosity about POP3 protocol. A quick

Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

Hello Plan9, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:18:37 -0400 GMT (11/07/2004, 21:18 +0700 GMT), Plan9 wrote: H>> Problem is that i need The Bat! working in following order: H>> When first mail is received i need that mail to be deleted from H>> mailserver immediately, and when its done, only then to start dow

Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

Sunday, July 11, 2004, 7:03:01 AM, HELDON wrote: H> Problem is that i need The Bat! working in following order: H> When first mail is received i need that mail to be deleted from H> mailserver immediately, and when its done, only then to start downloading second H> mail. When second mail is receiv

Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

Dear Heldon, @11-Jul-2004, 14:03 +0300 (11-Jul 12:03 UK time) HELDON said: ... > When first mail is received i need that mail to be deleted from > mailserver immediately, and when its done, only then to start > downloading second mail. When second mail is received i need > delete it from mailse

The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

hi all. For some reasons i need following thing to be done when i'm receiving e-mails using The Bat! : Let's assume that i have 3 large mails with attachments in my mail server and i receive them using The Bat! When i click 'Get new mail' in The Bat! it connects to mail server, and shows that i

Help - multiple inbox folders in one account!

tbudl, The wife's TB (2.11.02) has 5 "inbox" folders! Also an Outbox, Sent, and Trash... Only one set (I marked them with a * on the end) have the glyphs indicating they are 'special' folders (for example the inbox has a blue arrow pointing down). Moving SubFolders has inconsistant results. Somet

Re: Possible Help for Extreme CPU Usage and Slowness

ON Tuesday, June 22, 2004, 10:36:03 PM, you wrote: So I closed The Bat!, renamed ACCOUNT.CFG to MD> ACCOUNT_BAK.CFG, started The Bat! up again, and have not had any MD> problems since. Hi Mike, What is the location of this file in your setup? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Possible Help for Extreme CPU Usage and Slowness

Hello Mike, On 23 Jun 2004 at 15:27:59 -0700 GMT [00:27 CEST] you wrote: >> account.cfg is the place where your account data are stored: address, >> servers, templates, etc >> If it's absent then you wouldn't have an address, couldn't check your >> mail, etc. >> Then again, it shouldn't be 47 MB,

Re: Possible Help for Extreme CPU Usage and Slowness

On 06/22/2004 02:57 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: account.cfg is the place where your account data are stored: address, servers, templates, etc If it's absent then you wouldn't have an address, couldn't check your mail, etc. Then again, it shouldn't be 47 MB, since mine is about 20 kB. So somehow yours h

Re: Possible Help for Extreme CPU Usage and Slowness

Hallo Mike, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:36:03 -0700GMT (22-6-2004, 22:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MD> I asked the list what exactly ACCOUNT.CFG did, and specifically, what MD> would happen if it was absent. account.cfg is the place where your account data are stored: address, servers, templat

Re[2]: Need help for forwarding mail

==Original message text=== From: Feli Wilcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WilWilWil on [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2004, 1:31:31 PM Subject: Need help for forwarding mail FW> Hello WilWilWil, FW> On Tue, 2

Possible Help for Extreme CPU Usage and Slowness

I had a situation where The Bat! v2.0 (running on Win2K SP4) was using 100% of my CPU and taking forever to check mail and start up. So I got a little experimental, and I started perusing the various paths that The Bat! uses and found that my ACCOUNT.CFG file was 47MB. That seemed a tad bit o

Re: Need help for forwarding mail

Hallo WilWilWil, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:04:41 +0200GMT (22-6-2004, 0:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W> I've got a problem : when I receive an e-mail with a picture attached, and when W> I want to forward just the picture to a friend, I click on the Forward button in W> TB . When I was using

Re: Need help for forwarding mail

Hello WilWilWil, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:04:41 +0200GMT(22.06.2004, 00:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: > I've got a problem : when I receive an e-mail with a picture attached, and when > I want to forward just the picture to a friend, I click on the Forward button in > TB . When I was using O

Re: Need help for forwarding mail

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ~~( __ _"o Was Tue, 22 Jun 2004, at 00:04:41 +0200, @ @ when WilWilWil wrote: > I've got a problem : when I receive an e-mail with a picture attached, > and when I want to forward just the picture to a friend, I click on > the F

Need help for forwarding mail

Hi, I've got a problem : when I receive an e-mail with a picture attached, and when I want to forward just the picture to a friend, I click on the Forward button in TB . When I was using Outlook(I wasn't in the truth at this time ;-) ), this click open a new mail with just the picture attached a

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

Thank you friends for so much help. It works better for me now. WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

Hello WilWilWil, Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 6:47:13 AM, you wrote: W> Other question, can you help me because I'm a poor French man and I can't find W> good translation of theses words found in the Plug In (I've turned TB on French W> language but these terms

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

t; no amelioration).I can't find help for parameters of the plug in and I just want > to burn or to authorize e-mail addresses. > If the Bayesit plugin is not working for you, why not try a different program. I use Popfile with great success (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/)

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

M> Listen, Wilwilwil, I'm a poor English-speaking woman and I can't M> fathom what these things mean either! I used to think 'kludge' was M> something like Rube Goldberg art where you put odd things together to M> make them work in a way in which they were not intended! (clear as M> mud?) But in t

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

Hi, On Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 1:47:13 PM, WilWilWil wrote: > Other question, can you help me because I'm a poor French man and I can't find > good translation of theses words found in the Plug In (I've turned TB on French > language but these terms are not trans

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 7:47:13 AM, you wrote: W> Other question, can you help me because I'm a poor French man and I W> can't find good translation of these words... Listen, Wilwilwil, I'm a poor English-speaking woman and I can't fathom what these things mean eithe

Re: Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ~~( __ _"o Was Tue, 15 Jun 2004, at 13:47:13 +0200, @ @ when WilWilWil wrote: > Other question, can you help me because I'm a poor French man and I > can't find good translation of theses words found

Spam, Bayes It, Kludges, white list, balck list... : French need help !

Hello, (I use TB 2.11.02 and Bayesit 0.5.5) Can I use Black and White lists with Bayesit plugIn of the bat ? Because auto spam filtering seems to not work correctly (more than 1000 mails evaluated and no amelioration).I can't find help for parameters of the plug in and I just want to

Re: Plain Text Windows - Clickable URLs (Was Re[2]: Error message from Help screen)

Hello Urban and y'all, Sorry to follow on myself, but... M> The issue seemed to be my typing in or cutpasting a link where M> moving the cursor over it did not show it as a live link, M> For this email I have changed to the Plain Text editor (Windows M> proportional). M> Here is a typed-in addr

Plain Text Windows - Clickable URLs (Was Re[2]: Error message from Help screen)

Edit Mail Message window, in the Edit dropdown, they maybe could put in a Paste As Hyperlink... So the unsolved question of how do I make the links clickable, is one reason I'm back to MicroEd. The other reason is the textwrapping Allie told me about. It would be great to see some discussi

Re: Error message from Help screen

Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Maggie wrote: > Yes. I see how to accomplish that in the HTML editor, but how to do > this in the Plain Text (Windows Proportional)?? You can't. In a plain text message the links just "are", there's no need to indicate that it's a link. In HTML, on the other hand, you hav

Re[3]: Error message from Help screen

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 10:47:52 PM, Maggie wrote: M> Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the M> window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells M> and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable M> MicroEd. I had not realized that the ot

Re[2]: Error message from Help screen

Hello Urban, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:59:29 PM, you wrote: >> "Add Hyperlink" is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I >> looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. U> In the Edit Mail Message Window, there is a row of icons; select font U> and size and such thing.

Re: Error message from Help screen

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: > "Add Hyperlink" is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I > looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. In the Edit Mail Message Window, there is a row of icons; select font and size and such thing. (If you don't see it, make sure

Re[2]: Error message from Help screen

Hello Urban, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:05:00 PM, you wrote: U> Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: A>>> Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? >> This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were >> going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes,

Re: Error message from Help screen

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: A>> Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? > This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were > going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do > not know. Is there a way to find out? Send messages to yo

Re[2]: Error message from Help screen

Hello Frank, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:57:36 AM, you wrote: F> There was a cut mark in my mail. F> Regards, F> Frank Yes, but as you can see, your signature is _above_ it, not below. The sig needs to be below the cut. -- Cheers, Maggie

Re: Error message from Help screen

On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 at 2:58:16 PM, Maggie wrote: > Ah, I see, but shouldn't there be an old help file and not an error > message? No. The error message is from windows not from TB!. > Listen, Frank, before they get you with a trout, be sure to put a cut > mark in your ma

Re: Error message from Help screen

en look at it as is and give you a better impression of what is happening. M> OK, Allie, I'm now not sure why the help file is not working. Me neither. I've noted that the context sensitive help doesn't work in some places. M> If I don't have to reinstall to correct the

Re[2]: Error message from Help screen

Hi Frank, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:40:47 AM, you wrote: F> There ist no updated help file :(( Ah, I see, but shouldn't there be an old help file and not an error message? Listen, Frank, before they get you with a trout, be sure to put a cut mark in your mails. Before your sig, on a cl

Re[2]: Error message from Help screen

rious HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do not know. Is there a way to find out? MM>> So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to MM>> see if I had the wrong settings So, I clicked on the Help MM>> button and received an error message stating: MM>>

Re: Error message from Help screen

On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 at 2:22:39 PM, mm Meister wrote: > --- Windows Help > --- The topic does not exist. Contact your > application vendor for an updated Help file. (129) > --- OK ---

Re: Error message from Help screen

Viewer to MM> see if I had the wrong settings So, I clicked on the Help MM> button and received an error message stating: MM> --- Windows Help MM> --- The topic does not exist. Contact your MM> application vendor for an upd

Error message from Help screen

Hi Batfans, Another user of The Bat! emailed to say the link I had sent them did not appear as a link. So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to see if I had the wrong settings So, I clicked on the Help button and received an error message stating

Re: Bayesit configuration - help needed

rmal? Back/whitelists are not yet implented. IP> I guess the main problem is the seemingly poor help available for IP> BayesIt. Is there a help file somewhere I haven't located? I'd like to IP> know what all the options mean! There's an old english one for v0.4: http://

Bayesit configuration - help needed

he "Rules" button for setting black/white lists is similarly greyed out. Again, is this normal? I guess the main problem is the seemingly poor help available for BayesIt. Is there a help file somewhere I haven't located? I'd like to know what all the options mean! Thank you

Re[2]: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

A> Nothing like 3 pages of A> quotes followed by a reply that reads something like A> "Right :-)" You got that right! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Help! Something ate my mail!

On Sat 5 June 2004, 0:48:58 +1000, Rich Gregory wrote: > Hu... So exactly what A/V prgm are you using, Robin? I have been > running Norton's A/V for many years (the last one with TB!) and > haven't (yet?) had such a problem even though it is set to scan each > and every email as it comes in. I

Re: Help! Something ate my mail! - KAV integration

Hello Johannes, Friday, June 4, 2004, 07:20, you wrote: >> 6/3/2004, 15:11:47: FETCH - Received message from >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 43024 bytes, subject: "Mail Delivery >> (failure [EMAIL PROTECTED])" >> !6/3/2004, 15:11:47: FETCH - could not store message (file name >> - C:\DOCUME~1\BARRYT~

Re: Help! Something ate my mail!

Dear Robin, @4-Jun-2004, 16:29 +1000 (04-Jun 07:29 UK time) Robin Anson [RA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to newsroom: >> I checked C:\DOCUME~1\BARRYT~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\, but I have no idea why >> The Bat! could not store the messages or why the earlier messages >> disappeared. Does anyone have a

Re: Help! Something ate my mail!

On Fri 4 June 2004, 14:43:09 +1000, Newsroom wrote: > I opened The Bat! as usual only to discover that all of the emails for > one account had completely disappeared. > > The log for that account looks something like this: > > 6/3/2004, 15:11:41: FETCH - receiving mail messages > 6/3/2004, 15:1

Re: Help! Something ate my mail!

Dear Barry, On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, newsroom wrote: > 6/3/2004, 15:11:47: FETCH - Received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 43024 > bytes, subject: "Mail Delivery (failure [EMAIL PROTECTED])" > !6/3/2004, 15:11:47: FETCH - could not store message (file name - > C:\DOCUME~1\BARRYT~1\LOCALS~1\T

Help! Something ate my mail!

y thoughts? I did notice some strange directories in C:\Documents and Settings\Barry Traver\Local Settings\Temp: _ISTMP1, _ISTMP2, _ISTMP3, _ISTMP4, and _PA60. (Could they be related to the ISTbar Trojan?) Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for the help

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

MAU wrote in : >> I purge my TBUDL folder when I leave it, and the antecedent of your >> post is gone; > Then http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hello Michael, >> I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one >> can be viewed as threads, why quote then? > > Well, for example, I can't tell quite what you just fully agreed with. Yes, no quoting at all is probably no good if not everybody is viewing threads. > I p

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hello Allie, > One has to chose a point of compromise. I agree and that is what I usually do. Or don't I? :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' informatio

Re[2]: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hi, MLC>>> Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? >> Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template. E> I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts E> received. I also very much dislike going through quoted E> messaging to get to the response. I usually read in real E> time,

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

27;t put in "Hello MAU" greetings in order to keep it short, but I don't mind them either. I think they help foster the friendly atmosphere here. -- Mike TB! v1.60q Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.00 | &

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hello Allie, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 20:28:28 -0500 GMT (02/06/2004, 08:28 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: MU>> I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like MU>> this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? AM> Giving no information about the message you're replying to is AM>

Re[2]: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hi Allen, Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 7:37:29 AM, you wrote: A> Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced A> 'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top A> posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce A> any

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: MU> I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like MU> this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? Giving no information about the message you're replying to is unacceptable and assumes that all readers thread their messages. This actually annoys m

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hello ETM, > unread throwaway. Hmmm, "unread throwaway". I like that term :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/t

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

> I usually read messages in the preview pane. If the height > of the pane is full with quoted text (i.e. I have to > scroll down to find the first line of the response) I > usually just skip that message. I also read in preview pane making top quoting very unpleasant and usually qualifying it for

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hello ETM, I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? I usually read messages in the preview pane. If the height of the pane is full with quoted text (i.e. I have to scroll down to find the first line of the response) I usuall

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

MLC>> Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? > Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template. I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts received. I also very much dislike going through quoted messaging to get to the response. I usually read in real time, remember the origi

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hi Michael, on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:31:52 -0500GMT, you wrote: MLC> Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? I don't see it, but I'm MLC> bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an MLC> old version of TB! Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template. MLC> Togg

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hallo Michael, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:31:52 -0500GMT (1-6-04, 17:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLC> Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? I don't see it, but I'm MLC> bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an Not really, but I suppose you could alter the

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

ext only to find a "thank you for your help". I > think something like this should always be top quoted. Top-posting something like that would annoy me just as much, as I would scroll down /expecting/ there to be more new content. Snipping is the only solution to this sort of problem, wh

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Allen wrote: Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced 'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce any sort of quoting policy--since it would all, inherently,

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Wayne King, [WK] wrote: WK> In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll WK> down past the quoted text to read the response. This annoyance leads one to trim when not top posting, another vital rule for discussion lists, i.e., no overquoting. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

just read. I had to WK> scroll down below quoted text only to find a "thank you for your WK> help". I think something like this should always be top quoted. And hence the list rule regarding over-quoting. The netiquette rules make a great deal of sense, but if people only use part o

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

d have top quoted this message. In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll down past the quoted text to read the response. One especially annoying example was a message in this list that I just read. I had to scroll down below quoted text only to find a "thank you for

OT: Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hi Cyrille, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, at 00:11:08 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:11 PM where I live) you wrote: C> Did you ever have a look at the transmission protocols in the C> headers of email messages with this question in mind??? It is not C> exactly what you would call a "logical flow"... (-: It is a k

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hello Ken, Monday, May 31, 2004, 6:05:24 PM, you wrote: >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? kg> It would seem that if "logical flow of conversation" is a main kg> argument for top-posting, a similar argument could be used for viewing

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Allie Martin wrote: > We do it that way since we can't really do any better when managing and > organising physical objects which is what snail mail is about. > Electronic data offers a lot more flexibility and ease with organizing > without presenting practical difficulties. To be clear, I wasn

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Hi ken, On Mon, 31 May 2004, at 11:05:24 [GMT -0500] (which was 10:05 AM where I live) you wrote: kg> I'm curious about the logic of the above point from Peter's tag kg> line (which I agree with) and applying the same logic to message kg> list view. On folders where I view threads (mainly lists),

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

ken green wrote: One thing that threw a wrench in the workings of my perception on this was the idea of a physical Inbox, and realizing that new messages at top more closely resembles a real-world Inbox. We do it that way since we can't really do any better when managing and organising physical ob

Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

Peter Meyns wrote: > A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? I'm copying this over to TBOT to move discussion there. I'm curious about the logic of the above point from Peter's tag line (which I agree with) and applying the same logic to mes

Re: The Bat! Help File

Hello Simon, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 2:47:20 PM, you wrote: SE> Hi SE> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've just SE> registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help file from? SE> When I select help from the menu, I get a message saying that

Re: The Bat! Help File

On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 4:30:54 PM, you wrote: D> Actually, you'll need to download 2.10.03. D> I had the same problem, the slightly older version is missing the help file. D> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php That version installed the help file. Thanks. --

Re: The Bat! Help File

Actually, you'll need to download 2.10.03. I had the same problem, the slightly older version is missing the help file. http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php -- Best regards, DB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'U

Re: The Bat! Help File

Hi Simon, on Sun, 30 May 2004 15:32:07 +0100GMT, you wrote: MDP>> The help file is not a condition of registration and should have MDP>> been there all along. There isn't a place to get it from separately MDP>> to the full installer. If I were you, I'd just reinstall.

Re: The Bat! Help File

Hi Marck, On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 2:56:19 PM, you wrote: SE>> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've SE>> just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help SE>> file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message SE>> sa

Re: The Bat! Help File

Dear Simon, @30-May-2004, 14:47 Simon Elliott [SE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SE> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've SE> just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help SE> file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message S

The Bat! Help File

Hi About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message saying that the help file can't be found. -- Simon Elliott http://www.

Re: Help! Disappearing address book.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 14 May 2004, 21:04 +0200 (20:04 local time) Peter Meyns [PM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JH>> Thanks, Mary. Actually, I just backed everything up, removed The Bat! JH>> and reinstalled it. Now, everything is back to normal. JH>

Re: Help! Disappearing address book.

Hi Jeanny, on Fri, 14 May 2004 13:31:28 -0500GMT, you wrote: JH> Thanks, Mary. Actually, I just backed everything up, removed The Bat! JH> and reinstalled it. Now, everything is back to normal. JH> I'm still at a loss as to why it happened, though. That's every Windows user's fate every once

Re[2]: Help! Disappearing address book.

Friday, May 14, 2004, 11:29:38 AM, Mary Bull wrote: Mary> Let me know if this helps? Thanks, Mary. Actually, I just backed everything up, removed The Bat! and reinstalled it. Now, everything is back to normal. I'm still at a loss as to why it happened, though. Jeanny -- Jeanny House Eau Cla

Re: Help! Disappearing address book.

Hello Jeanny! On Friday, May 14, 2004, 9:12 AM, you wrote: Roelof>> The only thing I can imagine is that it's placed outside of Roelof>> your desktop. Have you (or somebody else on your pc) been Roelof>> playing with the screen resolution? ... This is the only Roelof>> thing that comes to mind...

Re[2]: Help! Disappearing address book.

Friday, May 14, 2004, 3:41:24 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Roelof> The only thing I can imagine is that it's placed outside of Roelof> your desktop. Have you (or somebody else on your pc) been Roelof> playing with the screen resolution? If so. Do that again (max Roelof> resolution), open TB and the AB,

Re: Duff Template (Was: Re: Help! Disappearing address book.)

On Friday, May 14, 2004, 7:23 AM, you wrote: SH> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH> Hash: SHA1 PC>> Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 PC>> Service Pack 1 PC>> (avast! version number) PC>> (avast! DB version number) PC>> (avast! plugin version number) SH> Something te

Duff Template (Was: Re: Help! Disappearing address book.)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PC> Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 PC> Service Pack 1 PC> (avast! version number) PC> (avast! DB version number) PC> (avast! plugin version number) Something tells me that your template is working quite right, or am I missin

Re: Help! Disappearing address book.

On Friday, May 14, 2004, 6:46 AM, you wrote: JBL> Does the Registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Address JBL> selector have anything to do with the window position? It appears to JBL> have a set of window co-ordinates. Mine are currently (in decimal) JBL> Height 362 JBL> Left 302

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