Hi there!
On 2 Nov 99, at 0:59, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote
about "Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: R":
Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1 extended partition, 2
logicals on the latter. After the crash, he had only *one* (primary)
partition. The rest of the partitions
Wednesday, November 03, 1999
Hello Alexander,
Wednesday, Wednesday, November 03, 1999, you wrote:
Alexander Hi there!
Alexander On 2 Nov 99, at 0:59, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote
Alexander about "Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: R":
Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1
Monday, November 01, 1999, 11:28:35 AM, Ali wrote:
Many OSS programmers chimed in at that point to say that they get paid to
develop OSS. That's the funding I'm speaking about. If this type of funding
doesn't in anyway apply to GNOME and KDE development, then I stand
corrected.
The
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 9:06:50 AM, Kevin wrote:
They chose to use it, didn't they?
I honestly don't know very many people who have a choice of what OS they
use in their jobs.
I honestly don't know of very many IT managers that don't have a choice.
It is still a (l)user's
Hi,
Exactly. It's windows. It's therefore not the users fault when that
frustrating crash occurs. :)
They chose to use it, didn't they?
I honestly don't know very many people who have a choice of what OS they
use in their jobs.
OK, so 99.9% of the people don't have a choice. And yes
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 9:33:41 AM, Kevin wrote:
OK, so 99.9% of the people don't have a choice.
Isn't that a little high given the amount of home PCs and number of
businesses that do allow users to chose?
And yes it does become a problem FOR them. But I think the point was that it
Hi,
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 9:33:41 AM, Kevin wrote:
OK, so 99.9% of the people don't have a choice.
Isn't that a little high given the amount of home PCs and number of
businesses that do allow users to chose?
No, I don't think so. In businesses not very many allow you to chose
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 12:11:59 PM, Kevin wrote:
Actually, it would be better to have a variety. Makes viruses kind of
hard to propagate, doesn't it?
Probably, but I wouldn't make my choice of OS at home based on that. :-)
No, but it is about as valid a reason as any other.
Hi,
Probably, but I wouldn't make my choice of OS at home based on
that. :-)
No, but it is about as valid a reason as any other. IE... not all
that valid.
No, not as valid a reason as "I don't want to work in two different
word processors, I want to be able to transfer stuff from work to
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 3:52:51 PM, Kevin wrote:
No, not as valid a reason as "I don't want to work in two different
word processors, I want to be able to transfer stuff from work to
home", etc. So it's not as valid a reason as any others.
Those are no more valid at all when you
On Monday, November 01, 1999 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1 extended partition, 2
logicals on the latter. After the crash, he had only *one* (primary)
partition. The rest of the partitions just perished. The data lost.
On the primary partition
Hello,
On jeudi 28 octobre 1999, someone (you) said :
SL Love that prediction. You know, there are a slew of people who don't want
SL to use the mouse for many operations you would claim they would not want to
SL use the keyboard for. I'm sorry, I'd rather type out many commands than say
Wednesday, November 03, 1999
Hello Kevin,
Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote:
Kevin Hi,
Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote:
a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to
interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:56 +0700
tracer [EMAIL PROTECTED] expounded:
Wednesday, November 03, 1999
Hello Kevin,
Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote:
Kevin Hi,
Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote:
a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time
Hi there!
On 31 Oct 99, at 13:35, Thomas Fernandez wrote about
"Re[3]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was":
MDP Completely and utterly true. It *is* a just small percentage of the
MDP millions of computer owners and users that have actually put any
MDP effort or time into training,
Saturday, October 30, 1999, 9:35:22 PM, Thomas wrote:
A niche market is still a market, but I agree with you in principle.
A niche market, when the target isn't the lowest common denominator, does
not much resemble the "bad" influences the general market exudes on products.
I'm thinking
Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote:
a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to
interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather
like men.
Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out
what the problem
Hi all,
On Monday, November 01, 1999, 12:12:57 PM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled:
The Desktop environments KDE and Gnome are significantly driven by this open
market. This is where most of the funding is coming from isn't it?
What funding? Both projects were started and are heavily
Hi,
Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote:
a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to
interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather
like men.
Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out
what the
On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 3:51:35 PM (GMT+0800), Steve Lamb wrote:
SL Computers are *NOT* complicated. Women, now that is a complicated piece
SL of equipment!
Oh, puhleeze. Women are not equipment and I'd much rather deal with a
woman with a problem, who only wants me to listen and
Monday, November 01, 1999
Hello Paula,
Monday, Monday, November 01, 1999, you wrote:
On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 3:51:35 PM (GMT+0800), Steve Lamb wrote:
SL Computers are *NOT* complicated. Women, now that is a complicated piece
SL of equipment!
Paula Oh, puhleeze. Women are not
Friday, October 29, 1999, 1:37:24 AM, Thomas wrote:
They have to breath, wehtehr they want to or not. They don't have to
use comptuers - "we" want them to. For commercial, political, or other
reasons. The bone won't walk to the dog. (German saying, meaning if
you want to sell something, you
Hi all,
On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 2:51:35 AM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled:
That's just it, we don't have to go to the market, either. There is
enough of a "market" out there to go for a niche, not the general market. In
the goo-goo eyed craze to get the large numbers one misses the
Hallo Marck,
On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 7:22:24 PM (GMT+0800), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
Well, the OS is software in my vocabulary, so you are actually
saying you agree with me? :-
SL No, OS does not equal software. The same software on 6 different
SL OSs could yield 6
Hi Steve,
on Friday, October 29, 1999, 12:04:47 AM GMT+0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Why? Even if this was meant to offend computers (which it wasn't), why
do you take it personally?
SL Because it is an attack on those who don't find computers in that manner.
I don't feel it that way. Hmm.
Thursday, October 28, 1999
Hello Paula,
Thursday, Thursday, October 28, 1999, you wrote:
(snip)
Paula A democratic nation that ignores the fact that the majority of its
Paula citizens are not voting at all will be in trouble eventually; a business
Paula even more so. If the vocal minority is
Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 7:30:11 PM, Thomas wrote:
Why? Even if this was meant to offend computers (which it wasn't), why
do you take it personally?
Because it is an attack on those who don't find computers in that manner.
SL difficult to use,
I disagree - they are, for the general
In Reference to "THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?" From Steve Lamb:
SL Computers are one of the most complex, if not the most complex machine in
SL use by the general population. It is complex because it is designed, from the
SL onset, to be general. We have a machin
Hello Leif,
Saturday, October 23, 1999, 6:07:32 AM, you wrote:
Yes Outlook and Communicator
package all that stuff together, but they are both bloated pigs of
software that don't do their jobs very well.
We have used Communicator since 4.5 version and Netscape 3.0 before for
mail and it was
On Monday, October 25, 1999, Leif Gregory wrote:
PF I think that the list members as a whole are probably not very
PF representative of the general user community and those who post
PF even less so...
I agree completely, but I'm of the strong conviction that to have a
voice, you must vote...
Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 5:25:16 PM, Paula wrote:
Computers will become a more and more integral part of our lives, but
they will look and behave nothing like these primitive, difficult to
use, unreliable, frustrating tools we use now - and it won't be that
long - but in the meantime,
On Wednesday, October 27, 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
Computers will become a more and more integral part of our lives, but
they will look and behave nothing like these primitive, difficult to
use, unreliable, frustrating tools we use now ...
Again, I take offense.
Again, I would ask what I
Hi Steve,
on Thursday, October 28, 1999, 9:20:51 AM GMT+0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Computers will become a more and more integral part of our lives, but
they will look and behave nothing like these primitive, difficult to
use, unreliable, frustrating tools we use now - and it won't be that
Tuesday, October 26, 1999
Hello Gerald,
Monday, Monday, October 25, 1999, you wrote:
Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote at Monday, October 25, 1999:
Batmen,
I would say the most user friendly, as well as obvious
solution... would simply be an optional plugin that would
allow you to
Tuesday, October 26, 1999
Hello Paula,
(snip)
Paula That's 15 programs with 15 different interfaces to learn and remember,
Paula often for tasks that are not performed that frequently. The commonality
Paula of interfaces and basic functions has benefits that can't be totally
Paula dismissed out
Tuesday, October 26, 1999
Hello Ali,
Tuesday, Tuesday, October 26, 1999, you wrote:
Ali Hi all,
Ali "This is where I think you will find the most disagreement. The
Ali majority of the list members ... Felt very strongly against
Ali incorporating other functions like news
Monday, October 25, 1999, 1:43:44 PM, Paula wrote:
Yes, of course, but I think that those with just a few questions,
probably don't hang around long. Who knows? My point was only that
postings to a user list are perhaps not the best guide of the wishes of
the entire userbase, much less the
On Monday, October 25, 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
Yes, of course, but I think that those with just a few questions,
probably don't hang around long. Who knows? My point was only that
postings to a user list are perhaps not the best guide of the wishes of
the entire userbase, much less the
Paula,
On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, at 3:22 you wrote:
PF On Saturday, October 23, 1999, Leif Gregory wrote:
PF I think that the list members as a whole are probably not very
PF representative of the general user community and those who post
PF even less so. People who participate on mailing
Sunday, October 24, 1999
Hello Thomas,
Saturday, Saturday, October 23, 1999, you wrote:
Thomas Hallo Marck,
Thomas On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 11:33:34 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
MDP I use WS_FTP for "real" FTP. :-)
Thomas I find it very usable but awfully slow. For larger FTP's (and
Sunday, October 24, 1999
Hello Ali,
Sunday, Sunday, October 24, 1999, you wrote:
Ali Hi all,
Ali On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 11:49:33 AM (-5 GMT), Thomas scribbled:
I find it very usable but awfully slow. For larger FTP's (and with
my baud rate, each new version of TB qualifies), I
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone,
On Sunday, October 24, 1999, 12:36:04 AM you told us:
AM Getright's fine since it deals with both nicely.
MDP Through WinGate? It won't for me - not with the configuration I
MDP have here. But, like I say, NetVampire seems to work well while
MDP neither GoZilla
On 23 October 1999 at 04:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list:
Think of it, all in one is better to switch between many software
and Outlook/Communicator integrates both mail and news.
SL I do think about it and dislike it immensely. Applications which
SL try to do everything well end up
At Saturday, October 23, 1999, 11:20:38 AM, Marck stitched together the lines below:
SL huge
SL slow
SL useless
MDP IHMO
MDP I agree with you completely on this Steve.
This doesn't have to look this way. Hey, look, Netscape's slow because
it's an all-in-one crap.
Picture this:
TheBat! the
Saturday, October 23, 1999, 2:30:22 AM, MaXxX wrote:
COOPERATE with TheBat the Newsreader. The TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS would
You mean like PMMail and PMINews?
Better than running two programs separately, IMHO.
Why!? While they share some technical specifications they are handled
quite
Hi all,
On Friday, October 22, 1999, 10:34:09 PM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled:
Not to mention that with the common trend of trying to stuff
everything into single applications people who *like* to use small,
specialized applications are constantly switching as their current
favorites grow to
On 23 October 1999 at 13:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list:
AM So is getright
...
D/L Manager Getright
Just out of interest - I've just discovered a new one, having used
both GoZilla (mostly) and GetRight (sometimes) for some time. This one
is called NetVampire
Hallo Marck,
On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 11:33:34 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
MDP I use WS_FTP for "real" FTP. :-)
I find it very usable but awfully slow. For larger FTP's (and with my
baud rate, each new version of TB qualifies), I telnet into my own
account, "get" the file via unix'
Hi all,
On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 11:49:33 AM (-5 GMT), Thomas scribbled:
I find it very usable but awfully slow. For larger FTP's (and with
my baud rate, each new version of TB qualifies), I telnet into my
own account, "get" the file via unix' ftp command onto the home
directory on my
On 23 October 1999 at 17:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list:
AM Getright's fine since it deals with both nicely.
Through WinGate? It won't for me - not with the configuration I have
here. But, like I say, NetVampire seems to work well while neither
GoZilla nor GetRight work properly *for
Hi all,
On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 12:36:04 PM (-5 GMT), Marck scribbled:
Through WinGate? It won't for me - not with the configuration I
have here. But, like I say, NetVampire seems to work well while
neither GoZilla nor GetRight work properly *for me* through WinGate.
On a
Hi!
Ali Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] about "THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?":
A most interesting undertaking. Don't you require special privileges
to do this, i.e., downloading files to your ISP's home directory?
Otherwise it sounds like a neat way of dealing with the
Saturday, October 23, 1999, 5:28:45 AM, Ali wrote:
That's very true. ICQ is very bloated now, providing you with all
sorts of fandangles that are unnecessary because the functionality is
Geez, I had completely forgotten about it. The only reason I upgraded to
ICQ99a was so I could have
DOLIST,
On Saturday, October 23, 1999, at 5:54 you wrote:
DSI Hello,
DSI THE BAT! already does most of the e-mail job, any chance to have
DSI newsgroup read/send.
DSI Think of it, all in one is better to switch between many software
DSI and Outlook/Communicator integrates both mail and news.
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 01:07:32PM +0900, Leif Gregory wrote:
I would much rather use separate pieces of software that are "masters"
than one kludged together bloated pig that can do a little bit of
everything.
Not to mention that with the common trend of trying to stuff everything
into
Hello,
On jeudi 4 novembre 1999, someone (you) said :
Bashing NT has nothing to do with this mailing list or what this
thread started out about (though about 90% of your messages seem to
end up going in that direction).
SL It wasn't bashing NT. It was pointing out a very *VALID*
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