[Texascavers] Histo related

2010-02-19 Thread David
Here is a web-site with some very basic info on Histo: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/histoplasmosis/DS00517 Symptoms: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/histoplasmosis/DS00517/DSECTION=symptoms Causes: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/histoplasmosis/DS00517/DSECTION=causes In

[Texascavers] Whirlpool Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Jules Jenkins
Is anyone interested in helping lead a new group from Sam Houston State Univ. this Saturday at 10? Diane and Mustafa if you're free Saturday, please join us. Please contact jules  julesjenk1@yahoo.comor512-289-1336 thanks, jules

RE: [Texascavers] 6 cave fatalities

2010-02-19 Thread Geary Schindel
Tim, The gas that caused the accident could be any number of different gases. Methane, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, hydrogen sulfide, or just lack of oxygen. Methane is usually colorless and odorless and would be difficult to detect. It is flammable and explosive in the right mixture of

[Texascavers] barrels

2010-02-19 Thread Gill Edigar
I forgot got mention yesterday that I have 2 rainwater storage tanks sitting on the trailer in the driveway. One is 2500 gallons--$970; the other is 3000 gallons--$1120. Can deliver in the Austin area. Can get more later to deliver elsewhere. See FB for photo. --Ediger

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2010-02-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
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Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers-dig...@texascavers.com

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
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[Texascavers] For Bill Bentley

2010-02-19 Thread Mark Minton
Sorry to post this on Texascavers, but I have no other way to contact Bill Bentley. Until the problem is fixed, please send any personal messages to me at mmin...@illinoisalumni.org. Thanks! Mark Minton Bill, When I tried to log into my caver.net email this morning, I got the following error

Fwd: [Texascavers] For Bill Bentley

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Minton mmin...@illinoisalumni.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM Subject: [Texascavers] For Bill Bentley To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sorry to post this on Texascavers, but I have no other way

Re: [Texascavers] For Bill Bentley

2010-02-19 Thread Bill Bentley
Got that and thanks - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: spelun...@suddenlink.net Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: Fwd: [Texascavers] For Bill Bentley FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Minton

texascavers Digest 19 Feb 2010 19:20:15 -0000 Issue 978

2010-02-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Feb 2010 19:20:15 - Issue 978 Topics (messages 13738 through 13757): Re: a new camera 13738 by: Pete Lindsley 13739 by: Fofo 13740 by: Mark Minton Re: a Texas cave diving story 13741 by: George Veni TCMA Auction at TSA Spring

[Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Rod Goke
Any of you who are using Windows 7 or who are thinking about getting Windows 7 will probably be interested in reading the following article about a new Windows 7 update and what it can do to those who download it. http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000681.html Rod

Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
And this is related to caving in which way? Please post these types of email to the OT list. Charles On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Rod Goke rod.g...@earthlink.net wrote: Any of you who are using Windows 7 or who are thinking about getting Windows 7 will probably be interested in reading

Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Rod Goke
Charles, It is related to caving in the same way that all of the other caving related equipment discussions on Texascavers are related to caving. This list frequently contains discussions about equipment, including lights, cameras, camping equipment, vehicles, etc., which cavers often use in

RE: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Mark . Alman
Sheesh, some people just love to argue, don't they, Charles?! Patience. 8^) Mark -Original Message- From: Rod Goke [mailto:rod.g...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:24 AM To: Charles Goldsmith Cc: TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update

Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Rod, indirectly everything we touch is caving related, but we don't discuss most of it on this list. I called Bill Bentley yesterday on my iphone and talked about caving, but you don't see me discussing iphone updates, patches on here. Yes, there are a lot of off-topic postings, and we do try to

Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Of course, I'm one of them! LOL I sent him a reply off list, didn't want to drag an argument onto the list, cause I know he will. Oh well. I saw your trip announcement about NM, and would love to go, timing doesn't fit in, I'll likely be there the week after you are, LOL. Speaking of which, I

RE: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Mark . Alman
That's Sitting Bull Falls cave and you DO need a permit from the Forest Service, not BLM. (It's so hard out there knowing who controls what!). When we were there a few years ago, there were Rangers there making you sure you didn't go in. I talked to them and they said that they

Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Rod Goke
Charles, I really don't understand your sensitivity about this topic. Computers and their operating systems are used extensively and directly in a variety of caving related activities now. They certainly are not just incidentally related as everything we touch. Why would you consider this to

Re: [Texascavers] Windows 7 update KB971033

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Ah, gotcha, who is your contact for permits at the Forest Service? Thanks On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: That's Sitting Bull Falls cave and you DO need a permit from the Forest Service, not BLM. (It's so hard out there knowing who controls what!). When

[Texascavers] October, 2007 Bat Killings at Carter Caves State Park, KY Result of Ignorance

2010-02-19 Thread Preston Forsythe
Ashland, Kentucky The Independent Published: February 17, 2010 11:24 pm Attorney: Bat killings result of 'ignorance' ASHLAND - An attorney representing one of the two men scheduled to be sentenced today in federal court for the 2007 killings of more than 100 endangered bats at Carter Caves

Re: [Texascavers] a new camera

2010-02-19 Thread Pete Lindsley
One disadvantage of the Pentax Optio compared to the Canon is that the W60 does not support RAW format, which many users of Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom may prefer. (Go here [http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html ] to see the cameras supporting RAW format.) Two small Canon

Re: [Texascavers] Re: a new camera

2010-02-19 Thread Pete Lindsley
Yes, that dust problem ruins a lot of pictures for me. If you have a slave flash that is much stronger than the on-camera flash and can side or back-light the scene you can often over-ride the spots. Remember to use the trick of holding your finger over part of the flash to reduce the

[NMCAVER] Potentially more powerful lithium ion batteries

2010-02-19 Thread Bill Bentley
- Original Message - From: Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net To: gvkarstsur...@googlegroups.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Potentially more powerful lithium ion batteries

[Texascavers] Bad air caves

2010-02-19 Thread David
Some caves can probably be ventilated using blower fans and hoses. But at what point do you decide to carry oxygen tanks and a breathing mask? Also, is regular scuba gear the best way to do this? Or is it better to use some kind of industrial apparatus like they use cleaning chemical tanks? Or

Re: [Texascavers] Bad air caves

2010-02-19 Thread Brian Riordan
SCUBA certifications are only really useful for companies that run guide and boat services, for insurance sake. You'll have no problem buying whatever equipment you want from a SCUBA shop. I worked on a human-powered submarine in college which operated fully flooded. The pilot had a SCUBA tank

RE: [Texascavers] Bad air caves

2010-02-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
-Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Some caves can probably be ventilated using blower fans and hoses. But at what point do you decide to carry oxygen tanks and a breathing mask? Also, is regular scuba gear the best way to do this? I find that when I

Re: [Texascavers] Bad air caves

2010-02-19 Thread Gill Edigar
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] But at what point do you decide to carry oxygen tanks and a breathing mask? Also, is regular scuba gear the best way to do this? I find

RE: [Texascavers] Bad air caves

2010-02-19 Thread Scott Boyd
You might need full SCUBA gear for a cave like Honey Creek, but there's not enuff water in Lemons Ranch to need fins or a wetsuit... There's some tight squeezes in Lemons Ranch where it might be pretty tough to try and wear an air tank. I suppose you could drag it along with you though. Scott

[PBSS] Web site melt down

2010-02-19 Thread Bill Bentley
Greetings Cavers, Along about Feb 5th through the 9th, 2010 The company who I have had hosting my web site for the last few years started having some issues with the mailing list of which I provide 5 to the caving community for the use by cavers for cavers. While it has run pretty much

Re: [PBSS] Web site melt down

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Good luck with it, holler if I can help in anyway. I'm sorry my software wasn't easily compatible. Charles On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: Greetings Cavers,     Along about Feb 5th through the 9th, 2010 The company who I have had hosting my web site

Re: [PBSS] Web site melt down

2010-02-19 Thread Bill Bentley
Your moral support and friendship means a lot to me... Bill - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [PBSS] Web site melt down Good luck with it, holler if I can help in

Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread mark gee
My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air into the pit for an hour. --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Andy Zenker
Absolutely! Without Marks air blower and 200ft of tubing into the cave, the surveying would not have been possible at all. It worked remarkably well. I was impressed. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, mark gee markageetxca...@yahoo.comwrote: My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard

RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Geary Schindel
High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things. G From: Andy Zenker [mailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:24 PM To: mark gee Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Absolutely! Without Marks air blower and 200ft of

RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Mark . Alman
What were we talking about?! aMrk From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Fri 2/19/2010 1:20 PM To: Andy Zenker; mark gee Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave High CO2 can cause daine

Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Brian Riordan
So far I've escaped most of the adverse effects of bad air caving- knock on wood. Ooh! I think someones at the door, excuse me. -Brain On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:24 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: What were we talking about?! aMrk -- *From:* Geary Schindel