[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-12-13 Thread Mohammad
Great Job BTC, Useful new row layout. --Mohammad On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:49:29 PM UTC+3:30 BurningTreeC wrote: > A little update for the Muuri StoryView: > > Thanks to the contribution of an enthusiastic Muuri user we now have a > row-based layout, too. You can enable it through the C

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-12-13 Thread BurningTreeC
A little update for the Muuri StoryView: Thanks to the contribution of an enthusiastic Muuri user we now have a row-based layout, too. You can enable it through the ControlPanel -> Appearance -> Muuri -> align top/bottom/rows There are still some bugs to fix regarding dragging between grids and

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-23 Thread Ste
Finally got around to having a play on the not small screen. I'm sure it's because of stuff I already had installed but with stories, I dragged over your stylesheet saq, there are no columns. I can drag tiddlers around nicely vertically in each story though, which I quite like! I have tried with

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-20 Thread TW Tones
TT et al, In relation to different operational modes, I have being thinking about this a lot and use a few modes in my own wikis, but I would love to see them adopted more widely They follow this format - A config tiddler eg $:/config/author-mode - Which includes a field config-values co

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter
BurningTreeC wrote: > > > I think in actual practice I'd use Muuri to *arrange a site* for online >> publishing I do NOT want users to mess with. > > > Ok, yes I didn't think about that so much. There's the option to disable > dragging and to hide the dragging button from the pagecontrols menu, t

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-19 Thread BurningTreeC
@Saq, >One quick thought. Would it be doable as an option to have a specific part of the tiddler div be the element that is the drag handle? Perhaps the title, or a horizontal div above the title? It would allow for a UX where dragging tiddlers within/across stories is always enabled, and yet

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:04:09 AM UTC-7, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > One of the cool things already is that if you set Muuri to use just one > column, it gives an experience close to the classic storyview but you can > drag to re-order tiddlers within the story. So I am optimistic about your >

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-19 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@BTC > My goal is that dragging between stories becomes very easy using the muuri > storyview. I hope I can achieve that soon > One of the cool things already is that if you set Muuri to use just one column, it gives an experience close to the classic storyview but you can drag to re-order

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-19 Thread BurningTreeC
@All, Wow, a lot to comment to :) @Saq Thanks for the mashups that add Stories to the Muuri Demo, I was really curious if it works out well! >Being able to drag between stories could be very handy. I've considered adding that for the Stories plugin but ultimately didn't have the motivation fo

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TW Tones
Folks, I just want to chime in here on Stories. As you know a story is but a list, Tiddlywiki still has room to mature on the use of stories and lists. Naming and dragging a "Story of tiddlers" to a story list being able to store, reopen, close, delete stories etc... Some work have being done

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@TT > > Right. But that SUPPORTS my point! You don't need TWO STORIES for that > since Muuri supports that just by having 2 or more COLUMNS. > To the contrary, the workflow I described is not possible with multiple columns in a single Muuri story. Every time the story list changes, the tidd

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Saq Imtiaz wrote > > > Secondly, as far as I can tell, Muuri will re-arrange all tiles when one > is moved. So let's say I am working in one tiddler but want to have all the > others open to refer to while maximizing how much I can see on screen. Well > as soon as I close or move one of them, th

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
> > > What I mean is the logical place for meta data about an image is IN the > image. So, for me I'm thinking that is a somewhat different exploration > than two Muuri streams? > Depends on the nature of the notes and what they are meant for and how they will be consumed, in the use cases I d

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Saq You are a *very clever *programmer. I wanted, maybe for another thread, to ask you about how in TW we could access EXIF data in external images. That seems even more economical than twin data notation streams that are serendipitous and uncoordinated. What I mean is the logical place

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@TT > I think the end user problem is its hard to see what is going on since the > two stories are visually identical. It looks like ONE thing. > I realized this as well but it wasn't worth the effort to address for something that was a quick experiment to test compatibility. If BTC had not me

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Saq & BTC Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > I think having a classic story view in the default story and muuri in the > second could be very powerful for making good use of a large screen for > some of my workflows. > > If you are curious, the files are here: > Muuri in both stories: > https://saqimtia

Re: [tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Atronoush Parsi
Thanks for clarification Saq! On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 2:37 PM Saq Imtiaz wrote: > @Atro this is a quick mashup to see how Muuri would interact with the > Stories plugin, and is not meant to be used for anything other than > testing. As such there are no buttons to configure Muuri in that setup.

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BTC Final thoughts. I think in actual practice I'd use Muuri to *arrange a site* for online publishing I do NOT want users to mess with. What I'm getting at is its a tool for content/organisation developers as much as for end users. Yes? Maybe? Maybe some hidden option to HIDE the tool

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BTC Further ... I'm glad to see, also, that "*In Tiddler Muuri*" are still supported. Its an extremely efficient way to, for instance, create galleries, as your example shows. Best wishes TT On Saturday, 17 October 2020 10:38:34 UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote: > > Hello dear TiddlyWikians :) >

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BTC, As an enthusiast for Muuris past I am very glad to see and test this later version. I DO like the simplification of the interface. Its still very bell-and-whistles enough! Nice simplifications IMO. Hats off! *Regarding mobile* ... where I toyed some. I think there is need to assert

Re: [tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@Atro this is a quick mashup to see how Muuri would interact with the Stories plugin, and is not meant to be used for anything other than testing. As such there are no buttons to configure Muuri in that setup. On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:48:32 PM UTC+2, Atronoush wrote: > > This is lovely

Re: [tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Atronoush Parsi
This is lovely Saq! In the second example I don't see the Murri columns button to change the number of columns! How can one set the target story river (column) when clicking a tiddler title in the right side bar? Atro On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 1:31 PM Saq Imtiaz wrote: > Thanks for the clarificat

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Thanks for the clarification @BTC. I did a quick mashup adding Stories to your Muuri demo. Works pretty well, you can have Muuri in both stories or just one. I think having a classic story view in the default story and muuri in the second could be very powerful for making good use of a large sc

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi @Saq, >If I understand correctly, does that mean the number of columns would be have the hardcoded via CSS? Or is there a parameter to the list widget for it? There's no parameter for the list widget for the columns, it's hardcoded via CSS. I use "width: calc((100% / <>) - <> - (<> / <>));

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Hi @BTC, > 1) I've now fixed your issue with using the core $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate > as a template, it does no more lay out using the columns of the > columns-button. Their width however needs to be defined using a css... > If I understand correctly, does that mean the number of columns woul

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-17 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi @Saq, thank you! 1) I've now fixed your issue with using the core $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate as a template, it does no more lay out using the columns of the columns-button. Their width however needs to be defined using a css... The list widget that uses the muuri storyview accepts some addition

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-17 Thread BurningTreeC
Hello @Ste, thanks! The columns button has no effect on mobile, there I decided to make it two columns, but I'm inclined to make it a single column if the column-button is set to "1" More than two columns seem indeed to be a bad thing on mobile, tiddlers get too narrow then and become unreadabl

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-17 Thread Ste
On mobile. Looks good. I can drag things round nicely. The columns button doesn't seem to make any difference. I set it to one thinking that would push everything into a single column but it remained at two. I also couldn't drag to an extra column for 3 or more, but that's probably not a bad t

[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

2020-10-17 Thread Ste
That's looking really good on mobile! On Saturday, 17 October 2020 at 09:38:34 UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote: > Hello dear TiddlyWikians :) > > Right now I'm working on a better Muuri storyview. You can find its > progress and Demo page here: > https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/ > > I