Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-27 Thread JHarper33
Mindy, by that logic, a baby who needed life support at birth would not be entitled to it. I've known many families of children born prematurely who needed a great deal of help at first, but who grew and thrived with help, including ventilators. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-27 Thread Lawrence King
I'm not implying that at all. I just didn't go into that definition for the sake of brevity. The light hearted comment about turning 18 meant that every child takes a tremendous amount of life support to raise. but if you insist on a definition: I believe that any infant who is alive

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-27 Thread JHarper33
Thanks for the clarification. Just taking the statement at face value it sounded different. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 3/27/2009 12:58:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, we4king...@verizon.net writes: I'm not implying

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-27 Thread Lawrence King
Ah Barbara, the problem with email is that it's not a 3 dimensional form of communication. face value is very different when you are actually face to face! now I see what you're referring to... In the 6 years between the birth of my daughter and the birth of my son ideas on healthy

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Melissa B
think that I could live with the thoughts of that. Thanks for all that you do for us on the list! - Original Message - From: Jim Lubin To: Lawrence King ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) I know I am

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
Sure I would consider treatment from non hESC sources. As for the funding act that was signed into law. No funds in this act (which funds everything in the government between now through Sept 30, 2009) may be used for embryos for research purposes or research in which a human embryo or

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
Sure I would consider treatment from non hESC sources. As for the funding act that was signed into law. No funds in this act (which funds everything in the government between now through Sept 30, 2009) may be used for embryos for research purposes or research in which a human embryo or

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
To: mailto:gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.netgbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net; mailto:westg...@interlog.comWestgold; mailto:adis...@yahoo.comAmanda Diskey; mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.comtmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) I will make just a short statement regarding this, as I do not wish to become

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread jrushton
Thank you, Jim..Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Jim Lubin Date: 3/26/2009 12:21:40 PM To: jrushton; Deborah Nord Capen; tmic Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Here it is. Worth watching. Stem Cells and Neuroregeneration – The Future Douglas A. Kerr, MD, PhD Johns Hopkins

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Janice
: gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net To: Westgold ; Amanda Diskey ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Our former president, George W. Bush, so direspectfully referred to on this list as dumdum, was simply against the use of our tax money

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?), and signing

2009-03-26 Thread Balmatmic
It seems to me that ALL bills should be read prior to signing, but that's just me. I was always told not to sign anything that I haven't read. I will admit to not signing all documents in total, but I have skimmed over them. Just my 2 cents worth. Barbara A In a message dated

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Balmatmic
This is a very personal decision and we all have to make it for ourselves when and if the time comes. It's good to have a discussion about this as different views are expressed and information is dispensed that others may not be aware of. I also know that there are many children in the

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Cody and Judy Kidwell
; Deborah Nord Capen ; tmic Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Here it is. Worth watching. Stem Cells and Neuroregeneration - The Future Douglas A. Kerr, MD, PhD Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Janice
have taken my meds! janice - Original Message - From: Cody and Judy Kidwell To: TMIC ; Jim Lubin Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Jim.I agree with you completely and I like your explanations for your position on using

Fw: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread gbthomas8374
- Original Message - From: gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net To: bgunny7...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Gunny and Debbie, Thanks for the information which I did not mean to ignore. Sorry to imply all research is with aborted fetuses

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread JHarper33
: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Our former president, George W. Bush, so disrespectfully referred to on this list as dumdum, was simply against the use of our tax money for embryonic stem cell research in consideration for those opposed, on moral grounds

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Cindy McLeroy
:10 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) I will make just a short statement regarding this, as I do not wish to become involved in a debate. Dr. Kerr has stated in all of his talks that the BIGGEST mistake in the very beginning was to even give it the name embryonic stem cells

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread jrushton
---Original Message--- From: Cindy McLeroy Date: 3/25/2009 1:58:23 PM To: gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net; Westgold; Amanda Diskey; tmic-l...@eskimo com Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Several weeks ago I went to a Meet the Scientist meeting for the Reeve Irvine Research Center held

Re: Fw: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Jim Lubin
...@sbcglobal.netgbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) In a message dated 3/25/2009 11:06:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mailto:gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.netgbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net writes: Our former president, George W. Bush, so

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Lawrence King
To: gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) In a message dated 3/25/2009 11:06:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net writes: Our former president, George W. Bush, so direspectfully referred to on this list as dumdum

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Jim Lubin
I know I am in the minority in my believes, but I do not believe in IVF that creates embryos to begin with. If these embryos were not being created to then there would be no so called leftover embryos. Are you aware that President Obama signed H.R. 1105, the Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009,

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Lawrence King
Jim, I do respect your beliefs and your extensive knowledge regarding stem cell research. I'm guessing you would consider treatment derived from adult lines but might decline so called embryonic lines. I'm sure we'd all be relieved if adult stem cells turned out to be the best solution

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread jrushton
What a very special note, Mindy...Thank you for sharing with us..Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Lawrence King Date: 3/25/2009 7:27:14 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Cc: Lawrence King Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) tAs a mother who conceived (the natural way) 6 times but only