Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-27 Thread Triode
FredNowak wrote: Triode, Here is what Wyred4Sound said in answer to your question: The interface does work with Linux driverless in adaptive mode. It will not work with Linux in async mode. Fred At present I'm afraid it probably doesn't work then as there is no way to select adaptive mode

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-26 Thread Triode
Bryan Jan wrote: I did edit the EnhancedDigitalOutput.lua as per SBGK's instruction on Apr 10. I am not sure this is relevant or not as I already factory reset the Touch. Suggest reinstalling the EDO app to erase this as it depends what you did whether it impacts the selection of dacs.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
JohnSwenson wrote: Triode, does your jive_alsa handle s32_le? Might that be the problem? John S. Yes - all reports of uac2 dacs seem to use s32_le. (The most recent one in EOD 0.5 contains an optimisation for 32bits which I could not test, but I am assuming that its working for other

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
Bryan Jan wrote: I did try the USB connection to my Antelope Eclipse 384 DAC, I choose High Speed USB 2.0 in the DAC, when the Touch reboot it can only reach the Free Your Music screen and stay there forever. If I changed the settings in the Eclipse 384 to High Speed USB1.0, the Touch can

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
skydl wrote: dmesg output: ... oprofile: using arm/armv6 TCP cubic registered NET: Registered protocol family 17 RPC: Registered udp transport module. RPC: Registered tcp transport module. ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, git-1.1.13 ieee80211: Copyright (C)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
skydl wrote: Log dmesg and stream0 on attached file. Is the dac selected as the output device? Is there anything in /var/log/messages which indicates a problem when starting up? Triode's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
skydl wrote: Wow i found this in the message-file: Jan 1 01:01:17 squeezeplay: INFO squeezeplay.applets - AppletManager.lua:317 Registering: EnhancedDigitalOutput Jan 1 01:01:17 squeezeplay: INFO applet.EnhancedDigitalOutput - EnhancedDigitalOutputMeta.lua:87 lastest usb kernel

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
skydl wrote: Aplay: List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: TXRX [MXC SPDIF TX/RX], device 0: MXC_SPDIF [MXC_SPDIF] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: fab4 [fab4], device 0: fab4-ak4420 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: fab4_1 [fab4],

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-25 Thread Triode
skydl wrote: Dac was on... now i reboot the squeeze here is the resault of aplay -l: Afraid that means the linux kernel probably doesn't support your dac at present. Can you PM me your email address and I will look at the code to see if there is anything we can do about this.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-24 Thread Triode
Baronvonkarp wrote: When I start a 24/192 song it starts correctly, after 5 to 10 seconds it stops one second (no sound) and after that it continuous. When I listen to the whole album everything goes fine (except for the first song). But when I skip to the next song () then it happends

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-24 Thread Triode
audiomuze wrote: This is great news. Is Logitech likely to include the changes in the Touch's firmware? I have discussed with Logitech, but at present I don't think they see sufficient marketing demand for these features and they represent too big a change for me to sneak them in as there

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-24 Thread Triode
Baronvonkarp wrote: thanks for the explanation. I use a WD usb drive on my server (hp i7 6 gb) i will try your suggestions. I also have a WD 2tb networkdrive. I will try itfrom that disk also. Again thanks. What OS is your server running on - you could try tweeking the minimum output buffer

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-24 Thread Triode
skydl wrote: Hello, I connect the leema dac to squeezebox. The info of the dac on the screen are: Status : stop Speed high Connection direct Type async Format s32_le Rate 32000 -192 khz When i play a title nothing happends. The dac tells me the status stop and the title does not

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-24 Thread Triode
SBGK wrote: you could try a periodcount=4 and alsa buffer time of 10 us, this means the frame size is 1/4 of the buffer size (1024/4096) instead of 1/2 (1024/2048) and also means the buffer refresh rate is .1s instead of .02s or what ever buffer size you have, so you have a better chance

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-23 Thread Triode
Exirion wrote: Triode, I'm trying to get my Arcam rDac working with an embedded Linux platform. Can you give me the patch that you made in the kernel and/or ALSA modules in order to get it detected properly? Right now I just get the infamous cannot get freq at ep 0x1 message. I do see

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-23 Thread Triode
Baronvonkarp wrote: Hi Triode, I isntalled 0.5 and it works fine, for so far as I can see. Do you have an idea why sometimes the beginning of a song in 192 bit drops out? 1 second and after that it sounds good! I hoped that it would be resolved with 0.5 version, but it isn't. I use an E3000

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-23 Thread Triode
AJ24hours wrote: I was able to see the version I had before but now forgot how I found it... As cfraser says, if you go back to the 3rd party apps list it will tell you the version and give you the option to remove it. If there is a new one with a different version it will also tell you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-23 Thread Triode
Exirion wrote: Where can I find the kernel sources? SVN hardly contains anything, and I can't find anything in the Downloads section that looks like it: http://code.google.com/p/triodeplugins/downloads/list Yes I need to make them available - I've been more focused on getting it to work than

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-22 Thread Triode
Baronvonkarp wrote: Thanks Triode, I tried to install de EDO app, but now I do not see anything about installing the kernel, the SBT reboots and that's it. I do not see that it is updating the kernel, nor that I get an error or something, nothing happends. I also not see the tekst

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-22 Thread Triode
I've posted a new release which makes a minor optimisation to the jive_alsa backend process. I don't expect you to notice any difference other than a very slightly lower cpu load of this process at high sample rates when the audio volume is set to 100%. Can someone running a uac2 dac confirm it

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-22 Thread Triode
mjm6 wrote: I looked through the thread, and didn't see is this approach will work with an Audiophilleo AP2? Anyone know? I'd love to be able to run from the Touch to an AP2 to my DAC (the AP2 will provide much-needed jitter cleanup). I don't think anyone has tried it yet, but there

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-22 Thread Triode
eiffel wrote: It seems that version 0.5 broke something with my Behringer UCA202 DAC (connected directly without a hub), as when I enable the USB output, the SBT keeps on rebooting (it's find with the digital only out). The previous versions worked fine. If you turn the volume down from

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-22 Thread Triode
eiffel wrote: Making volume adjustable and lowering it doesn't resolve my issue, and neither does adding a USB2 hub (powered or not). The UCA202 is not a usb2 high speed dac, as this is a very cheap adaptive device limited to 48kHz (in that sense, if version 0.5 works with the type of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-22 Thread Triode
eiffel wrote: I'm assuming the issue I experienced was a fluke with the update. It sounds like a problem with the update process - let's see if other people have it. If anyone else has a problem please post details and ideally what the /var/log/messages errors are when selecting the usb

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-21 Thread Triode
Dave1972 wrote: I installed the app successfully but the Kernel update fails every time I try to update it, so I have yet to hear any results (and I'm running firmware 7.7.2). However, before I spend any more time on this, could someone clarify for me please: Aside from the benefits

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-21 Thread Triode
Baronvonkarp wrote: I de-installed de EDO app, to hear the difference between 192 and 96Khz. After that I wanted to install de EDO app again, but after i installed the EDO app and de SBT reboots, I got the message that the kernel could not be installed? When I look to the installed apps,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-21 Thread Triode
of potential audio benefits for these cases, but will happy discuss further on the audiophile forum - I'll add something to the thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94855-Triode-s-USB-24-192-plug-in-sound-quality-impressions The reasons for this is that any discussion of possible audio

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-21 Thread Triode
New release available which moves where the kernel is hosted. My original hosting provider has not been working today, so I've moved where the kernel is hosted. Please update the applet if you had problems with the kernel installation as it needs the new applet to look to the new location.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-20 Thread Triode
AlexM wrote: Installation was very smooth, and the integration with the UI on the SBT is well done. Just a thought - is it possible to write an LMS add-on to allow selection of digital interface options, and display DAC interface via the Web Gui?. I am going to start a thread in audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-19 Thread Triode
CaptBeyond wrote: Any sonic benefits going the USB route rather than digital coax out from Touch to digital coax in on DAC? That still leaves stereo analog outs viable and also USB port available for external HDD. Only thing worthwhile would seem to be USB or digital/optical coax out

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-19 Thread Triode
0.3 version release. This fixes a bug introduced in the 0.2 version which kmccourt pointed out. The only change is to avoid showing the warning message about needing a hub when a usb 2 (high speed) dac is connected. So to confirm the posts yesterday - you should only see the warning message

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-19 Thread Triode
kmccourt wrote: Hi Triode Once again many thanks for this. Update installed. In 'Audio SettingsDigital Output' I'm now presented with three options: - Analog Digital - Digital Only - 'USB-Audio - Cambridge Audio DAC100 USB2 [Info]' The previous message seems to have disappeared

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-18 Thread Triode
googleli wrote: My first post here - thanks for the patch. Works perfectly with my Antelope Zodiac Gold. If anyone has some 384/32 bit material I will test if the SBT can output this format to my Zodiac Gold via Coax. Anything above 192k will need to be resampled on the server.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-18 Thread Triode
RCsquare wrote: I have an HiFiMAN USB DAC and I'm getting clicks/pops on a Vortexbox Linux appliance and I'm wondering if using this would solve my problem here. Thanks in advance for your help. No idea - the hub is specifically recommended to work around what looks like a limitation of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-18 Thread Triode
CAK1 wrote: Ok, just checked sample rate with 192 material. Appears it is still playing it at 44. What's the maximum bit rate the usb interface will play and will it down-sample automatically? Also, how does one remove the app to install the hub interface version? Do I need a hub

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-18 Thread Triode
To add to John's post above - when you select a usb dac, the app will provide an additional menu level in the case when you probably need a hub. This menu offers you the option of enabling the workaround or saying you will add a hub. If you don't see this menu then you don't need a hub.. It is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-18 Thread Triode
kmccourt wrote: Hi Triode I get the menu option regarding enabling the workaround/adding a hub even though I am using a high speed async USB DAC (Cambridge DacMagic 100). Whenever I make the selection the Touch reboots a second time and then connects at high speed. If I'm reading what

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-17 Thread Triode
dsdreamer wrote: A strange thing happened after leaving both Touch and DAC powered on for the duration of my day at work. After coming home I found I could not play music, even though both devices were still powered on from this morning's experiments. I further noted that the USB hub's green

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-16 Thread Triode
I've just posted and updated version of the app. The kernel is unchanged, so if you install over the top of the previous install it will not need to download a new kernel. Changes in this version: - ability to turn usb dacs off and then on again without rebooting touch [note: the dac must still

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-16 Thread Triode
BrynClarke wrote: Does it matter which way round the USB hub is connected? (main plug into SBT or into DAC?) And are basic USB cables sufficient or are fancy cables desirable? Thx Bryn SBT is the host and the dac is plugged in as a usb device to the hub. The shape of the plugs should

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-16 Thread Triode
Wam79 wrote: Sorry to be a killjoy - I think this sounds worse than the TT3.0 with regular 16/44 quality material. It sounds more detailed in a bad way - more digital sounding and less analogue like. No idea why. Anyway - looks like I am the only one! I suggest this discussion is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-16 Thread Triode
Kuro wrote: Not sure if it is my imagination, v0.2 seems to sound better when paired with my Anedio D2 DAC over USB. There seems to be better mid-range weight. Maybe Triode can tell us whether there are any additional program changes besides the ones he listed. No - no other changes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-16 Thread Triode
apple2k wrote: Anyone know if this will work with the older SB3? Thanks It does not. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Triode...can you cook up a way to stream 176.4 as well??

2012-04-15 Thread Triode
TheOctavist wrote: If so, there is a way to stream DSD over PCM (via Mytek or dCs debussy) Could you add this capability buddy? The 192k spdif support should also do 176.4, but I have not tried it as I don't have any source files. Can't you use dsd2pcm and then sox to create a 176k pcm

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-14 Thread Triode
mhconley wrote: That was one of the first things I checked trying to troubleshoot this: Under file types: FLAC AIFF Disabled FLAC Disabled MP3 Disabled (greyed) PCM flac Every other setting under File Types is set to Disabled; all my music is flac. Any other ideas? Martin

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-14 Thread Triode
JIJ3 wrote: With your app installed, there is nothing on the I2S lines unless analog+digital outputs are active. Then the I2S signals appear to be limited to 96K. I have several 192K files that play normally, but at 96K. 44.1K, 48K and 88.2K files all play fine, at the correct rate (I don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-14 Thread Triode
JIJ3 wrote: Do I need to remove the enhanced digital output app first? Yes Do you want to PM me an email address. I need to warn you that I am not certain this will work as it didn't appear to work to me. Triode's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-14 Thread Triode
bhaagensen wrote: Hi, seeing as these features are strong selling points for the Touch, could Logitech not provide this functionality with the official firmware? (Haven't followed the discussion here closely, so I'll gladly accept pointers to technical/political/ethical/economical/etc

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-13 Thread Triode
HumanMedia wrote: So LMS 7.8 will stream PCM (natively) at 192. Has anyone tried running LMS 7.8 beta with SBT client running 7.7.2 with the Enhanced Digital Output app? Is running out-of-sync client and server possible? Or will it try to update the client and wipe the SBT? Sorry Triode

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-13 Thread Triode
adyc wrote: I have two dacs: (i) Ayre QB-9 (ii) Anedio D2. Enhanced app only works for D2 but not QB-9. The apps did recognize QB-9. However, there is no sound coming out from QB-9 when playing music. Any help on this please? Never seen an Ayre QB-9, but from the manual it has two settings -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-13 Thread Triode
adyc wrote: It is in class 2 as I am able to play 192kHz file through computer. Please see attached pictures: If you are able to ssh into the touch, are there any relavent error messages in dmesg or /var/log/messages?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-13 Thread Triode
lake_eleven wrote: This is the setting I have in my LMS: Server Setting - Advanced - File Types - For WAV: FLAC: Disabled MP3: Disabled PCM: Native Should I make FLAC as Flax/sox and make PCM Disabled? Enable FLAC and disable PCM native.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-13 Thread Triode
prinzinio wrote: guys, I need your help with instaling this tweak. I own 2nd hand Touch, Its connected via linksys router to my pc [LMS]. I have done factory reset, updated firmware and LMS to new version. I was able to go into My applications /3rd party and selected Enhanced DIG output.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
cfraser wrote: Has anybody mentioned (or even found) that when set up for USB DAC that the now playing display for internet radio can get totally out of sync with what's playing? The audio is correct though. I realise IR is not what this hi-res app is meant for, but I do use IR a lot and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
mhconley wrote: I am trying to install the applet but get the following error: No Applets Found. Relevant info: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893 Squeezebox Touch Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663 Recommended Applets Only is deselected. When I select 3rd Party Apps the Touch says

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
tank121 wrote: Just to clarify for playing normal cd rips to Flac I don't need the hub. It's only for 192 hires files that I need a hub? These 192 files are few and far between. MDAC will work without a hub with the workaround set, but only for 44.1k (CD) and 48k sampling rates. 88

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
PietB wrote: My Arcam rDac doing fine. Another dac (Asus Xonar Essence One highspeed usb-2 dac/headamp) gives some sound over usb, but the sound is distorted and very slow, what could be the solution? Don't know - what does cat /proc/asound/card/stream0 show? Where card is your card

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
PietB wrote: info (touch) shows: high speed : USB audio 16/44 plays good, pitch higher then normal, 24/48 pitch slow /$ cat /etc/asound.conf # fab4 alsa configuration Could you post the /proc/asound/card/stream0 details? Does the dac work correctly with a linux desktop machine? - if

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
Stratmangler wrote: MDAC will handle 24/192 over coax. At least that's what is said on the Audiolab website http://www.audiolab.co.uk/M-DAC%20Series.aspx?lang=En It will - this is how I tested the 192k over coax output. Why the hangup about USB? Async USB allows clock locking to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
SBGK wrote: hSound is now a lot better balanced and bass has returned as well. Let's keep these discussions on tweaking to the audiophile forum please. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
JIJ3 wrote: I use the I2S signals going into the Touch DAC to feed my custom outboard DAC. Do you know whether your mod allows the 192K bit rate to appear as I2S signals here (or anywhere else) in the Touch?? Don't think it will do anything for the analog and therefore the i2s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-12 Thread Triode
cookiemonster wrote: Excellent news, thanks Triode. Question: Is the install of the new kernel meant to revert network settings? Mine have and I'm in a pickle now. Nope - doesn't touch the network settings. Triode's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-11 Thread Triode
, not a huge cost as the previous comments from Triode attest. I wonder how the addition of the Hub might affect SQ, but I'm not going down this path, as my coax can deliver 192, for the odd track that I actually have. The main purpose of usb is to allow async usb operation which if the dac is designed

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-11 Thread Triode
Bryan Jan wrote: Please advise whether 24/192 AIFF file is supported by your app. From reading all the posts I only saw FLAC mentioned. Yes if you have the server set to transcode them to flac by disabling native playback in the filetypes menu. Otherwise not until 7.8.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-11 Thread Triode
koowat wrote: As for the USB Audio Class 2 - I'm pretty sure the DM 100 is USB Audio Class 2.0 - you can do this by pressing source when you turn the device on (light should be on SPDIF 2 to indicate USB 2 mode) - do you need a hub then? I'm based in UK so I can get the Harma hub but just

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-11 Thread Triode
leoduran wrote: Perhaps not for the same reason as with your DAC, I was having 'reboot' issues as well... To help me narrow down these issues can you confirm whether you had previously had the UsbAudioOutput applet (usb experiment tread) installed. Otherwise have you done a firmware upgrade

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
terjehaa wrote: Just a quick question to finish off how does LMS know about the new high res capabilities of the modded Touch. so that it doesn't prosess the high res files to the sox treatment before sending it to the Touch? The player tells LMS the fastest rate it can support when it

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
koowat wrote: anyone try this with say DacMagic Plus or DacMagic 100 (async USB) ? Sorry can't comment. Also not sure about the USB DAC power up/down process - can someone enlighten us? like do I turn on the DAC first then turn on the SBT? Can I ever turn off the DAC then? At present

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
lennyw wrote: So, I got it working via coax at 192 with my new Dacmagic 100. The USB suffers from the USB1/2 situation (ie a hub is needed, which I don't have -- BTW what's the cheapest way of doing this?), so I haven't tried it. Can't claim it to be the cheapest, but see:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
sa3999 wrote: Hi everyone Trying this with the new Arcam FMJ D33 DAC and having some trouble getting it to work with USB output. Hoping someone can point out what I am doing wrong... I have updated the firmware on the Touch to 7.7.2 and also the LMS is now on 7.7.2. I have installed

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
koowat wrote: hi there, why would a hub be needed if you switch the DM100 to USB 2 mode? I'm a bit green in this field - thought my DM100 is asynch usb already If the dac is a usb audio class 2 device and connects to the Touch at high speed then you don't need a hub. If however it is a usb

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
soundcheck wrote: I'm wondering if there's a way to mod certain snd-usb-audio params, such as nrpacks?? Playing with that one led to pretty nice improvements on my linux machines in the past. You should be able to access /sys/module/snd_usb_audio/parameters/ as with other linux kernels.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-10 Thread Triode
magiccarpetride wrote: I haven't installed your applet yet, but I do have a question: my understanding is that this enhancement will also be beneficial to those of us who are using digital coaxial output to an outboard DAC. If that's correct, I will install your enhancement and will, if

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
HumanMedia wrote: How do I check for underrun messages? Do they get echoed to the SBT console? You need to ssh into the touch and type dmseg - don't worry if you don't know what ssh is. Triode's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
JohnSwenson wrote: The only issue I have is that it's kind of painful to switch between USB DACs. Once you gedt it working with say DAC A, you unplug power, plug in DAC B then plug power back in, but now you get an indefinite spinny saying DAC unconnected. You have to unplug power, plug in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
HumanMedia wrote: I noticed that there is a Remove option for the app in the app menu. Does this completely remove all files and restore the stock kernel? No - do this and then a stock firmware update to remove the custom kernel - this will get you back to a standard installation.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
Rbbert wrote: I'm having some trouble. My firmware is 7.7.2; the app appeared to install correctly following all the steps outlined. Under audio settings it is now digital output only. Under My Apps it says there is nothing installed, but in App Gallery it says it is installed. I go coax

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
WKB wrote: Will this work with the USB on the Young DAC ? Don't know - does the Young dac support standard USB audio class 1 or 2 drivers (so works with the native drivers in osx or linux)? Triode's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
terjehaa wrote: I have same issue with FLAC files :( Haven't checked my settings in filetypes menu yet. I suspect you have native decode of flac disabled so that flac files get converted to wav to send to the player. This won't work at present either - will with 7.8, but at present you need

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-09 Thread Triode
SBGK wrote: Hi Triode I get better sound quality with the following change to loadPriority in file loadPriority.lua /usr/share/jive/applets/EnhancedDigitalOutput/loadPriority.lua loadPriority=1 sounds less harsh and thin. Can we keep claims of improvements via parameter tweaks

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-08 Thread Triode
HumanMedia wrote: Just checking if I can install it over the top of Touch Toolbox 3.0? Uninstall that first? You are best to uninstall first - I've not looked at in detail, but I think some of the TT modification for priories will conflict with the app if you use usb output.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-08 Thread Triode
stereoptic wrote: Does a DAC need to be connected while the app is being installed? My only DAC is the one built into my Marantz receiver (can accept up to 192k). This is only necessary for usb based dacs - I assume this is not - just install without dac and then select Digital Output to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-08 Thread Triode
tank121 wrote: Is it better than coaxial though? Whatwould be the advantages for my Mdac If any? Assuming you are asking about usb - async usb could be better than spdif for a given dac, it really depends on the dac. The theory is that having the player clock locked to the dac (which is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-08 Thread Triode
HumanMedia wrote: Edit: can't reproduce the signal lock drop Edit: intermittent signal drop noticed in other track which played fine before - not data related. Network bandwidth? Strength of output signal? Do you see any underrun messages in the dmseg of the player? I'm wondering if this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-08 Thread Triode
SBGK wrote: I have some 192 files and have downsampled them to 96 to play them with as wav files. Will I be able to tell the difference in sound quality if playing them natively at 192 ? after reading the link below I am confused about whether I would hear any difference and also whether

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-07 Thread Triode
leoduran wrote: So instead, I tried: Settings-Advanced-App Installer... And from there, deselected the Recommended applets only option, but I do not get Enhanced Digital Output as an option. Ummh, am I doing something wrong? Thanks. Needs to be a squeezeobox touch running 7.7.x firmware

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-07 Thread Triode
leoduran wrote: I suppose you're right... Here's what I've done so far: 1) Went back to factory settings 2) As prompted, performed a Software Update to: 7.7.2r9663 3) Having done that, I do get the option for:App Gallery-3rd Party Apps 4) So, I then follow the installation procedure for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-07 Thread Triode
leoduran wrote: OK, I'll try upgrading the server side... Right now I'm running with: Version: 7.5.3 - r31792 Thanks for doing such a great job so far... I'm looking forward to a clean way of using Async USB at 24/192K. This is an XMOS based USB class 2 dac?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-06 Thread Triode
cfv wrote: I bought my SBT a week ago and stumbled across it the same day. Since then, I've been using Kernel #1 with my 8200CDQ for flawless Redbook FLAC playback without a hub. If I install the new applet, will this option still be available? So far I don't need higher bitrates and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-06 Thread Triode
I have added the new applet to the main 3rd party list so people should see it without needing to add the special repositories defined on the first post here. Once there are a few more positive install responses, I'll start a new thread to discuss the new applet without the confusion of the test

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-06 Thread Triode
cfv wrote: Hi Triode, I found an old powered hub in my electronics graveyard and now the CDQ plays high bitrate files without pops, just to let you know. What I would like to know is whether there are any advantages if I go with the hub even though I only need 44.1/48 support. Would

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-06 Thread Triode
bobertuk wrote: What is the 'Kernel Idle Option' meant to do? I understand that it is intended to prevent the Touch CPU from idling when playing music. But why is this advantageous? I'm not sure that it is yet - its something for the tweakers to tweak... It should be off by default, but

[SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-04-06 Thread Triode
I've posted a new applet to the 3rd party apps list for Squeezebox Touch. This is designed to enhance the digital output capabilities of the device for use with external Dacs. It is based on the software which people have helped me test on the Async USB Dac Experiments thread but should now be

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-05 Thread Triode
Thanks for testing. I've just added a new applet to my usbaudio repository - Enhanced Digital Output. The aim of this applet is to provide a user friendly way of installing the customer kernel and selecting the output device. I've posted here to get a few people to test it and if positive will

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-05 Thread Triode
indypants wrote: Hi Triode, Seems to be working like a dream. I did a factory reset, then a firmware update, then I installed your applet. Everything worked just as you described. Hey that's good... I notice there is a Digital Output option in the audio settings. Yes this is added

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-05 Thread Triode
bobertuk wrote: Sorry to butt into this thread with something not directly related to USB DAC's... This seems to be saying that you completely bypass the Touch internal DAC and can send 24bit/192K data to a USB DAC. If this is so, can it be done for any other external DAC via optical/coax

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-05 Thread Triode
bobertuk wrote: I'm using a Lavry DA10 DAC connected via optical but have no way of telling if it's playing 24/192 or is being downsampled by sox. Is there any way of seeing what is beng played? Look at the processes running on the server - for 192k playback normally you will see a sox

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-05 Thread Triode
terra27 wrote: Hi Triode, Thank you for all your contribution for the USB support. I tried a few kernels (including the most recent #6) and wanted to report my issue. The USB output works wonderfully with my XMOS based DAC. Unfortunately, it has an issue with my MF V-LINK II

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-01 Thread Triode
the change which I think caused this. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-04-01 Thread Triode
Looks like I'm not doing very well with kernel #6 - please use #5 for the moment... -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com

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