garym wrote:
> Unlikely to find much help on the z553 here on this forum. Might have
> better luck at the logitech forum:
> https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/community/topics thanks for the link. Bernd
wartburgritter's
wartburgritter wrote:
> thanks for the fast help.The problem os not related to the squeezebox
> touch at all.
>
> Years ago I bought a set of a squeeze box touch and the speaker system
> logitech z553. All the years I have been thinking the speaker belong to
> the squeezebox. Just realized I
thanks for the fast help.The problem os not related to the squeezebox
touch at all.
Years ago I bought a set of a squeeze box touch and the speaker system
logitech z553. All the years I have been thinking the speaker belong to
the squeezebox. Just realized I just boight them together.
OK
You can adjust balance using the Inguz EQ/DRC plugin, but your issue
sounds like a problem with amp and/or speakers. What do you mean "big
bass speaker"? Are you talking about a subwoofer? Most subs have a
volume control on the rear panel.
wartburgritter wrote:
> I own a Squeeze Touch. The balance has a problem. One speaker is much
> more loud than the other. If I change the cable on the bass speakeron
> the box the balance is switched. Means the two small speaker work well
> and the wrong balance comes out of the big bass
I own a Squeeze Touch. The balance has a problem. One speaker is much
more loud than the other. If I change on the box the loudness is
switched. Means the wrong balance comes out of the big bass speaker. Two
possibilities ... it is somehow adjusted or something is broken. But it
seams I can not
chaug wrote:
The only problem is that 'inguz requires at least a 2 GHz processor'
(http://inguzaudio.com/installation/debian/) my LMS is on a NAS with
less than that (a 1.8 GHz Atom single core, to be precise). In addition,
the NAS runs on Debian Etch and I'm not sure whether that is
I'm also one of those wondering about balance control on the touch...
Or should we give up on this?
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Perhaps mentioned already, I haven't read all 7 pages of posts, but
don't the older SB1 and SB2 have a balance control option? Seems to me
there were also options for treble and base unless that has all gone
away with firmware updates. It has been awhile since I used those but if
balance is
SlimChances wrote:
Perhaps mentioned already, I haven't read all 7 pages of posts, but
don't the older SB1 and SB2 have a balance control option? Seems to me
there were also options for treble and base unless that has all gone
away with firmware updates. It has been awhile since I used those
Hi Steve,
nope I haven't released anything yet, been totally swamped time wise.
After the current projects go out the door I'll see if I can take a
week off work and get caught up on a few things. That is if my boss
will let me take some time off.
John S.
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John:
I have been searching the forums for a L/R balance solution for the SB
Touch and found this post. Any progress on a solution? Maybe I missed
it somewhere in the forums, but I can not find any posted solutions.
Any useable implementation would be great.
Thanks,
Steve
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John
(Me too) It's certainly a wish rather than a need for me.
It would be nice to avoid having to buy an additional amp to split the
L + R channels.
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guidof;583603 Wrote:
John:
I for one would be very grateful for balance control, no matter how
quick and dirty the implementation.
Guido F.
I haven't touched it in several months. The balance part is working
fine, the problem is getting the graphical elements to display properly
in the
JohnSwenson;583790 Wrote:
I haven't touched it in several months. The balance part is working
fine, the problem is getting the graphical elements to display properly
in the window.
I can probably throw together something quickly that just has a number
readout and right and left buttons
JohnSwenson;540344 Wrote:
I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control
right now. Its just going to be available from a Touch menu, no webUI,
no dedicated buttons on the IR remote, but you should be able to use
the arrow keys on the remote to navigate the menus and
JohnSwenson;540344 Wrote:
I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control
right now. .
John:
I for one would be very grateful for balance control, no matter how
quick and dirty the implementation.
Guido F.
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Mnyb;540374 Wrote:
What I wonder here is. Is there any guideline or consensus for when a
setting.
1. Should be local ?
2. Integrated with the squeezeboxserver ?
3. Integrated with squeezeboxserver and mysqueezebox.com ?
1 2 is possible for 3rd party devs to accomplish 3 needs
... or hearing difficulties.
The use-case where it isn't set forget has been exposed in this
thread already - sub-optimal recordings. In this use-case my opinion is
that the recording should be permanently fixed via editing, because then
it will be usuable on other players which may not have
May I add another use case for your consideration. I have a set of CDs
that consist of contra dance music played more slowly and simply than
normal so that musicians that play by ear and are not very proficient
can learn the tunes. The tunes have been recorded with the instruments
carrying the
Don't forget that the humans sometimes in their older years or after
some damage in their youth lose some hearing and require adjustments
left and right. Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's
obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some
people.
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pounce wrote:
Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's
obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some
people.
I don't think anyone is arguing with you that for some people some of
the time, a balance control can be useful.
It might even be a useful
pfarrell;540023 Wrote:
And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor
on
the data file, and adjust it once.
Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the
listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently
with a DAW.
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Daverz;540105 Wrote:
Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the
listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently
with a DAW.
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
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Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
I don't have a balance control on my pre-amp! I bought into the whole
audiophile purity thing, regrettably. No balance control, tone
controls, loudness, etc. I did have a balance control on my older gear
and did use it
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
Phil,
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
Phil,
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE
pounce;540163 Wrote:
I think it would be better for Logitech to be making this kind of
statement unless we enjoy being totally negative and want to help give
customers the impression (real or not) that development on this new
product is poorly supported and that they should just return the
pounce;540163 Wrote:
Phil,
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT.
I don't think it's
Thanks for the clarification. Your question:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
..does come across a bit challenging, but forums are silent and we
don't have any visual cues to know how we mean things. I think the
'really' in the question gave the tone.
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Well, the main point here is what Erland mentioned: It is probably very
easy to implement a balance control on the Touch itself, it's much more
challenging to make this remotely controllable.
The one thing I'm fearing here is that we are getting a lot of these
examples: Things you can do on the
Daverz wrote:
pfarrell;540023 Wrote:
And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor
on the data file, and adjust it once.
Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the
listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently
with a DAW.
pounce wrote:
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
I'm not Phil, but unless shown otherwise, I think its a feature of low
value for 99% of
If this was really needed via remote I would imagine the two options
would be using a Controller or using a universal remote. Implementing
with a Controller would probably be the the most ideal since you would
pick up a lot of functionality and would be dealing with SqueezeOS on
both devices, but
pfarrell;540192 Wrote:
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. [/color]
I completely don't follow this. Of course it has a headphone output,
and
if you use headphones, the one big argument that sometime you are not
sitting in the sweet spot goes right out the window.
When you are
pippin;540212 Wrote:
It would not work with the controller either without a plugin.
I was really suggesting something native.
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As an aside, I can't recall any LP Turntables or CD players that had
built in balance controls. The touch is a 'source' component.
If you want balance, have it as part of your post source -
amplification / DSP / EQ etc.
I regard the headphone out as a convenience.
For serious headphone
Phil Leigh;540216 Wrote:
These bootleg live concerts.. are they legal then :-)
In many cases, yes. I've found some good stuff on Archive.org. Perhaps
I used the word bootleg wrong. ;)
It looks to be quite easy to implement...
What are your thoughts about using the remote or a remote?
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pounce;540213 Wrote:
I was really suggesting something native.
What do you mean by native?
The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote
control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server.
The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sync
pippin;540229 Wrote:
What do you mean by native?
The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote
control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server.
The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sync with
MySB and is less likely to happen
pounce;540239 Wrote:
Not being as intimate with the inner working as much as you or many of
the others...By Native I mean to add the functionality as core code and
not in the form of an applet or otherwise.
That doesn't make any difference. Most functionality in the user
interface of the
How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured
by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is
some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed
that to what you are calling the server?
When I press the ffw button the IR remote for
Grahame;540214 Wrote:
As an aside, I can't recall any LP Turntables or CD players that had
built in balance controls. The touch is a 'source' component.
If you want balance, have it as part of your post source -
amplification / DSP / EQ etc.
I regard the headphone out as a convenience.
pounce;540253 Wrote:
How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured
by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is
some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed
that to what you are calling the server?
When I press the
Mnyb;540258 Wrote:
The Controller can control the Touch if you have an external squeezebox
server running, if you don't use the internal one.
It's how most of use the Touch right now as a player without using the
internal server option.
Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box) can
pounce;540261 Wrote:
Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box) can control the Touch
how is it doing this? What's the interface on the Touch that the Server
would use to control aspects of the Touch?
Ok. Basics. Here's a 1x1 on how a Squeezebox works.
To begin with, let's answer
pippin;540295 Wrote:
IR-Remotes are a bit in between. Actually I'm not sure whether they can
directly act on the player part for the Touch (I think no but I'm not
sure) but they can definitely act like a mouse, just controlling the
menu which means you can use them to activate any local
Thanks. I appreciate everything below this line:
pippin;540295 Wrote:
To begin with, let's answer your question (although for the 4th time)
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pfarrell;540190 Wrote:
Daverz wrote:[color=blue]
This is the touch forum. Its hard to see how you need to adjust the
balance much if you are close enough to use the touch screen.
I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way
you do. My Touch is in my equipment
Daverz wrote:
I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way
you do.
Nice Ad hominem attack.
There is no balance control on my pre-amp, which is unfortunately typical
for many high
end pre-amps these days.
Correct, balance and tone controls have fallen out of
I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control
right now. Its just going to be available from a Touch menu, no webUI,
no dedicated buttons on the IR remote, but you should be able to use
the arrow keys on the remote to navigate the menus and virtually push
the buttons.
I
John,
Perhaps you can leverage one of the IR shortcuts that can be
programmed? e.g. Holding down the 4 or the 6 to move balance left or
right?
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pfarrell;540327 Wrote:
Nice Ad hominem attack.
An Ad hominem attack would be to call you a hater or buzzkill. I would
not consider the observation he made of your post an Ad hominem attack.
Just sayin'.
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pfarrell;540327 Wrote:
Daverz wrote:[color=blue]
So the fact that your preamp is missing a feature that you desire
makes
you want it in your source devices?
This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and
complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering
Daverz wrote:
This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and
complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the
complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial.
As I wrote in response to you earlier:
I don't really care, when they do it is fine
Daverz;540355 Wrote:
This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and
complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the
complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial.
That is what John S is cobbling together.
Buth others argue for a more
News
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837
Peter searched for way to lock Volume.
But this proves that there are gainL and gainR variables in lua , so
maybe no C compiling needed ?
I wont know really I don't do code.
Btw If you want to have balance but say goodbye to your
JohnSwenson;539662 Wrote:
Yep it certainly looks doable. All it needs is a UI now! The problem is
the now playing screen is already pretty full of stuff, it would either
have to be redesigned or an additional screen be added, OR it put
somewhere else. Then there is the question do you want
I imagine for 99% of users this would be a set forget setting...
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103
One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where
the balance is off.
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Daverz wrote:
One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where
the balance is off.
And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor on
the data file, and adjust it once.
My main audiophile amp does not even have a balance control. I don't
think I've
Daverz;54 Wrote:
One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where
the balance is off.
Move slightly left and right until the balance is not off.
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real stereo doesn't wake neighbors (it enrages them)
.
Balance is something that theoretically can be done, but its probably
not trivial. My guess is that it will take modifying the C code that is
implementing the volume control so its not even something that can be
implemented as a patch. On top of that you need a GUI for specifying
it. It should
any way to adjust the balance (aka pan L or R)?
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no, probably because that's usually a function of the preamp or
receiver, not the source.
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I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could not be
offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there.
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