Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2021-01-04 Thread wartburgritter
garym wrote: > Unlikely to find much help on the z553 here on this forum. Might have > better luck at the logitech forum: > https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/community/topics thanks for the link. Bernd wartburgritter's Pr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2021-01-03 Thread garym
wartburgritter wrote: > thanks for the fast help.The problem os not related to the squeezebox > touch at all. > > Years ago I bought a set of a squeeze box touch and the speaker system > logitech z553. All the years I have been thinking the speaker belong to > the squeezebox. Just realized I j

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2021-01-03 Thread wartburgritter
thanks for the fast help.The problem os not related to the squeezebox touch at all. Years ago I bought a set of a squeeze box touch and the speaker system logitech z553. All the years I have been thinking the speaker belong to the squeezebox. Just realized I just boight them together. OK offto

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2021-01-02 Thread Apesbrain
You can adjust balance using the Inguz EQ/DRC plugin, but your issue sounds like a problem with amp and/or speakers. What do you mean "big bass speaker"? Are you talking about a subwoofer? Most subs have a volume control on the rear panel.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2021-01-02 Thread Daverz
wartburgritter wrote: > I own a Squeeze Touch. The balance has a problem. One speaker is much > more loud than the other. If I change the cable on the bass speakeron > the box the balance is switched. Means the two small speaker work well > and the wrong balance comes out of the big bass speaker

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2021-01-02 Thread wartburgritter
I own a Squeeze Touch. The balance has a problem. One speaker is much more loud than the other. If I change on the box the loudness is switched. Means the wrong balance comes out of the big bass speaker. Two possibilities ... it is somehow adjusted or something is broken. But it seams I can not c

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2014-09-26 Thread adamdea
chaug wrote: > The only problem is that 'inguz requires at least a 2 GHz processor' > (http://inguzaudio.com/installation/debian/) my LMS is on a NAS with > less than that (a 1.8 GHz Atom single core, to be precise). In addition, > the NAS runs on Debian Etch and I'm not sure whether that is supp

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2014-09-26 Thread chaug
adamdea wrote: > If you can manage to get the LMS inguz plugin working you can have all > this and much more besides eg inter channel time delay, various stereo > controls and even DRC; good luck. The only problem is that 'inguz requires at least a 2 GHz processor' (http://inguzaudio.com/install

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2014-09-26 Thread adamdea
chaug wrote: > I'm also one of those wondering about balance control on the touch... > Or should we give up on this? If you can manage to get the LMS inguz plugin working you can have all this and much more besides eg inter channel time delay, various stereo controls and even DRC; good luck. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2014-09-19 Thread Mnyb
SlimChances wrote: > Perhaps mentioned already, I haven't read all 7 pages of posts, but > don't the older SB1 and SB2 have a balance control option? Seems to me > there were also options for treble and base unless that has all gone > away with firmware updates. It has been awhile since I used th

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2014-09-19 Thread SlimChances
Perhaps mentioned already, I haven't read all 7 pages of posts, but don't the older SB1 and SB2 have a balance control option? Seems to me there were also options for treble and base unless that has all gone away with firmware updates. It has been awhile since I used those but if balance is really

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2014-09-19 Thread chaug
I'm also one of those wondering about balance control on the touch... Or should we give up on this? chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sho

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2011-12-06 Thread JohnSwenson
Hi Steve, nope I haven't released anything yet, been totally swamped time wise. After the current projects go out the door I'll see if I can take a week off work and get caught up on a few things. That is if my boss will let me take some time off. John S. -- JohnSwenson --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2011-12-04 Thread sledwards
John: I have been searching the forums for a L/R balance solution for the SB Touch and found this post. Any progress on a solution? Maybe I missed it somewhere in the forums, but I can not find any posted solutions. Any useable implementation would be great. Thanks, Steve -- sledwards

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-10-20 Thread onimod
John (Me too) It's certainly a wish rather than a need for me. It would be nice to avoid having to buy an additional amp to split the L + R channels. -- onimod onimod's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?us

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-10-18 Thread guidof
JohnSwenson;583790 Wrote: > I haven't touched it in several months. The balance part is working > fine, the problem is getting the graphical elements to display properly > in the window. > > I can probably throw together something quickly that just has a number > readout and right and left butt

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-10-18 Thread JohnSwenson
guidof;583603 Wrote: > John: > > I for one would be very grateful for balance control, no matter how > quick and dirty the implementation. > > Guido F. I haven't touched it in several months. The balance part is working fine, the problem is getting the graphical elements to display properly in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-10-17 Thread guidof
JohnSwenson;540344 Wrote: > I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control > right now. . John: I for one would be very grateful for balance control, no matter how quick and dirty the implementation. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-10-17 Thread onimod
JohnSwenson;540344 Wrote: > I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control > right now. Its just going to be available from a Touch menu, no webUI, > no dedicated buttons on the IR remote, but you should be able to use > the arrow keys on the remote to navigate the menus and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-26 Thread mpower9
May I add another use case for your consideration. I have a set of CDs that consist of contra dance music played more slowly and simply than normal so that musicians that play by ear and are not very proficient can learn the tunes. The tunes have been recorded with the instruments carrying the tun

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
... or hearing difficulties. The use-case where it isn't "set & forget" has been exposed in this thread already - sub-optimal recordings. In this use-case my opinion is that the recording should be permanently fixed via editing, because then it will be usuable on other players which may not have b

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread erland
Mnyb;540374 Wrote: > > What I wonder here is. Is there any guideline or consensus for when a > setting. > > 1. Should be local ? > > 2. Integrated with the squeezeboxserver ? > > 3. Integrated with squeezeboxserver and mysqueezebox.com ? > > 1 & 2 is possible for 3rd party devs to accompl

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Mnyb
Daverz;540355 Wrote: > This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and > complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the > complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial. That is what John S is cobbling together. Buth others argue for a more comp

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Daverz wrote: > This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and > complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the > complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial. As I wrote in response to you earlier: I don't really care, when they do it is fine

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Daverz
pfarrell;540327 Wrote: > Daverz wrote:[color=blue] > So the fact that your preamp is missing a feature that you desire > makes > you want it in your source devices? > This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and complicated than a typical dumb source device. Consider

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
pfarrell;540327 Wrote: > > Nice Ad hominem attack. > An Ad hominem attack would be to call you a hater or buzzkill. I would not consider the observation he made of your post an Ad hominem attack. Just sayin'. -- pounce

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
John, Perhaps you can leverage one of the IR shortcuts that can be programmed? e.g. Holding down the 4 or the 6 to move balance left or right? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread JohnSwenson
I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control right now. Its just going to be available from a Touch menu, no webUI, no dedicated buttons on the IR remote, but you should be able to use the arrow keys on the remote to navigate the menus and virtually push the buttons. I do

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Daverz wrote: > I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way > you do. Nice Ad hominem attack. > There is no balance control on my pre-amp, which is unfortunately typical > for many "high > end" pre-amps these days. Correct, balance and tone controls have fallen o

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Daverz
pfarrell;540190 Wrote: > Daverz wrote:[color=blue] > This is the touch forum. Its hard to see how you need to adjust the > balance much if you are close enough to use the touch screen. > I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way you do. My Touch is in my equipment

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
Thanks. I appreciate everything below this line: pippin;540295 Wrote: > > To begin with, let's answer your question (although for the 4th time) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread peterw
pippin;540295 Wrote: > > IR-Remotes are a bit in between. Actually I'm not sure whether they can > directly act on the player part for the Touch (I think no but I'm not > sure) but they can definitely act like a "mouse", just controlling the > menu which means you can use them to activate any "l

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pippin
pounce;540261 Wrote: > Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box) can control the Touch > how is it doing this? What's the interface on the Touch that the Server > would use to control aspects of the Touch? Ok. Basics. Here's a 1x1 on how a Squeezebox works. To begin with, let's answer y

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
Mnyb;540258 Wrote: > The Controller can control the Touch if you have an external squeezebox > server running, if you don't use the internal one. > It's how most of use the Touch right now as a player without using the > internal server option. Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Mnyb
pounce;540253 Wrote: > How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured > by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is > some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed > that to what you are calling the "server"? > > When I pre

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed that to what you are calling the "server"? When I press the ffw button the IR remote fo

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread ghostrider
Grahame;540214 Wrote: > As an aside, I can't recall any LP Turntables or CD players that had > built in balance controls. The touch is a 'source' component. > > If you want balance, have it as part of your post source - > amplification / DSP / EQ etc. > > I regard the headphone out as a conveni

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pippin
pounce;540239 Wrote: > Not being as intimate with the inner working as much as you or many of > the others...By Native I mean to add the functionality as core code and > not in the form of an applet or otherwise. > That doesn't make any difference. Most functionality in the user interface of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
pippin;540229 Wrote: > What do you mean by "native"? > The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote > control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server. > The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sync with > MySB and is less likely to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pippin
pounce;540213 Wrote: > I was really suggesting something native. What do you mean by "native"? The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server. The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sy

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
pounce;540219 Wrote: > In many cases, yes. I've found some good stuff on Archive.org. Perhaps I > used the word bootleg wrong. ;) > > > > What are your thoughts about using the remote or a remote? It's gonna be a lot harder to do that I'm afraid. Personally, I'd DSP those "bootlegs"... --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
Phil Leigh;540216 Wrote: > These "bootleg live concerts".. are they legal then :-) > In many cases, yes. I've found some good stuff on Archive.org. Perhaps I used the word bootleg wrong. ;) > It looks to be quite easy to implement... What are your thoughts about using the remote or a remote?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
pounce;540199 Wrote: > When you are using the headphone out there isn't even a chance of other > customer equipment between the Touch and the listener. This means that > there is typically no way to put the issue of some form of balance > control on the customer by using their receiver etc. This

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Grahame
As an aside, I can't recall any LP Turntables or CD players that had built in balance controls. The touch is a 'source' component. If you want balance, have it as part of your post source - amplification / DSP / EQ etc. I regard the headphone out as a convenience. For serious headphone listenin

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
pippin;540212 Wrote: > It would not work with the controller either without a plugin. I was really suggesting something native. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pippin
pounce;540195 Wrote: > If this was really needed via remote I would imagine the two options > would be using a Controller or using a universal remote. Implementing > with a Controller would probably be the the most ideal since you would > pick up a lot of functionality and would be dealing with S

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
pfarrell;540192 Wrote: > > > THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. [/color] > > I completely don't follow this. Of course it has a headphone output, > and > if you use headphones, the one big argument that sometime you are not > sitting in the sweet spot goes right out the window. > When you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
If this was really needed via remote I would imagine the two options would be using a Controller or using a universal remote. Implementing with a Controller would probably be the the most ideal since you would pick up a lot of functionality and would be dealing with SqueezeOS on both devices, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Pat Farrell
pounce wrote: > I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or > you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if > you believe the feature is one that should be added. I'm not Phil, but unless shown otherwise, I think its a feature of low value for 99%

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Daverz wrote: > pfarrell;540023 Wrote: >> And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor >> on the data file, and adjust it once. > Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the > listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently > with

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
pounce;540176 Wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. Your question: > > > > ..does come across a bit challenging, but forums are silent and we > don't have any visual cues to know how we mean things. I think the > 'really' in the question gave the tone. Not really. It's merely a term of ampli

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pippin
Well, the main point here is what Erland mentioned: It is probably very easy to implement a balance control on the Touch itself, it's much more challenging to make this remotely controllable. The one thing I'm fearing here is that we are getting a lot of these examples: Things you can do on the d

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
Thanks for the clarification. Your question: > > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? > ..does come across a bit challenging, but forums are silent and we don't have any visual cues to know how we mean things. I think the 'really' in the question gave the tone. -- pounce -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
pounce;540163 Wrote: > Phil, > > I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or > you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if > you believe the feature is one that should be added. > > THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. > > I don't think it'

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread erland
pounce;540163 Wrote: > > I think it would be better for Logitech to be making this kind of > statement unless we enjoy being totally negative and want to help give > customers the impression (real or not) that development on this new > product is poorly supported and that they should just return

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote: > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? Phil, I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if you believe the feature is one that should be added. THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread pounce
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote: > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? Phil, I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if you believe the feature is one that should be added. THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Daverz
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote: > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? I don't have a balance control on my pre-amp! I bought into the whole audiophile purity thing, regrettably. No balance control, tone controls, loudness, etc. I did have a balance control on my older gear and did use it occasi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Daverz;540105 Wrote: > Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the > listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently > with a DAW. Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-25 Thread Daverz
pfarrell;540023 Wrote: > > And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor > on > the data file, and adjust it once. > Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently with a DAW. -- D

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread Pat Farrell
pounce wrote: > Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's > obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some > people. I don't think anyone is arguing with you that for some people some of the time, a balance control can be useful. It might even be a useful

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread pounce
Don't forget that the humans sometimes in their older years or after some damage in their youth lose some hearing and require adjustments left and right. Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some people. -- p

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread pski
Daverz;54 Wrote: > One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where > the balance is off. Move slightly left and right until the balance is not "off." -- pski real stereo doesn't wake neighbors (it enrages them) . ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread Pat Farrell
Daverz wrote: > One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where > the balance is off. And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor on the data file, and adjust it once. My main audiophile amp does not even have a balance control. I don't think I've u

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread Daverz
One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where the balance is off. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread Phil Leigh
I imagine for 99% of users this would be a "set & forget" setting... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 51

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread erland
JohnSwenson;539662 Wrote: > Yep it certainly looks doable. All it needs is a UI now! The problem is > the now playing screen is already pretty full of stuff, it would either > have to be redesigned or an additional screen be added, OR it put > somewhere else. Then there is the question do you wan

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread JohnSwenson
Yep it certainly looks doable. All it needs is a UI now! The problem is the now playing screen is already pretty full of stuff, it would either have to be redesigned or an additional screen be added, OR it put somewhere else. Then there is the question do you want it in the webUI, and do you want

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-24 Thread Mnyb
News http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837 Peter searched for way to lock Volume. But this proves that there are gainL and gainR variables in lua , so maybe no C compiling needed ? I wont know really I don't do code. Btw If you want to have balance but say goodbye to your volume

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-23 Thread JohnSwenson
Balance is something that theoretically can be done, but its probably not trivial. My guess is that it will take modifying the C code that is implementing the volume control so its not even something that can be implemented as a patch. On top of that you need a GUI for specifying it. It should als

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-23 Thread ratso
very few 2 channel preamps come with balance controls anymore, including mine. it is a feature that was built into the sonos, and one that i found was very helpful. -- ratso Emerald Physics CS2.3's - Odyssey Stratos/Khartago amps (coming soon) - Supratek Chardonnay Preamp - Slim Devices Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-22 Thread Mnyb
Daverz;539139 Wrote: > I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could not be > offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. Would only work if you have a squeeseboxserver on a fairly powerfull machine. not onboard the Touch itself. It's must be much more

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-22 Thread Daverz
I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could not be offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 V

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-22 Thread Daverz
I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could be offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?

2010-04-22 Thread aubuti
no, probably because that's usually a function of the preamp or receiver, not the source. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sho