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I recall Dennis exclaiming how beautiful he saw the To Know matrix as
expressed in the Level 5 chart.
I was doing RI and my mind went more quiet and I got it! Here's how it came
to me: I see an undulating
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiiGJq4IFvo
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Hello, David, glad you enjoyed it.
I think going through the Creation of Human Ability would likewise help.
For now, I'm happy with the gradual cogs and shifts in attitude I get from
doing regular RI and
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Scientology is a subject which enables you to handle anything... Dennis
grew up in this kind of Scientology environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHN3FuXDPsA
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I wish this for everyone.
I had been doing a casual type of level two, combining it with level three
while timebreaking each day's events, and was quite enjoying it; however I
decided to become a real
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When I re-envision my life and the lives of others as RI am I being
delusional? Well, one could say that, but what I'm seeing is that the
current delusions I have about my current scenario are being
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Hello, Nic, I put your post through the Google translator and this is the
result:
Hoo ... pretty well. A few thoughts from the Sage Handbook of Sri Paul
Theta.
A quantity? RI? Benin. Put them in 360? ?
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Yesterday, after re-reading Dennis' instructs re RI I shifted the
importance from the insights that I gained when I explored the
significances that came up when running RI to the importance of being able
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It seems that now I've corrected myself re RI and am turning more attention
to how is my timebreaking. I am only timebreaking the previous day every
day and I find it therapeutic especially if I intend
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Reading the older posts was very interesting.
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This is the importance that Dennis assigned to the doing correctly of Level
2:
But all the time we're separating out then from now and saying
that now and then have no common class. By saying this,
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This video separately corroborates the Boundary Condition that Dennis
speaks of in Trom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws8Pwj4v21w
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It was either Ed Dawson or Max Sandor who wrote this:
From what I have read, the Buddha also did some serious timebreaking.
BuddhaNirvanaProcess.odt
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The preface has been deleted:
After distilling the structure of the sequence of processes that lead
Gotamo to enter nirvana, and after adding a 'safety net', the following
elements emerge:
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What really helped me with understanding the RI commands is seeing how an
auditor would run it on a PC based upon Dennis' instructions, which I
pasted below. It is understood, however, this is a solo
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There is so much that can be done with Create Something.
However Dennis intended it to be a contributory practice to the core
practice of Timebreaking, and in that respect he stated quantity is more
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I was timebreaking yesterday's events and there was one stuck point, and
Level 2 was not working as well as it usually does. I moved the stuck
point of the scene in 6 directions and that brought up
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Greetings, Marcus and well done for finding TROM. I have been knowing
about TROM and studying since 2010 and now this year since August I am
doing Trom daily and with great results -- great insights.
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A Complete Book of Buddha's Lists - Explained in plain English logically
and analytically.
Reading the Forward itself was a treasure. The author, Dr. David N.
Snyder, PhD, treats Buddhism as a science
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Today while doing RI, creating an empty space where there is now a filled
space I saw the grosser postulates of To Own/To Have/To Survive and
realized that one can get much more joy from the simple joy of
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I'm a TROMNUT
Trom is my life passion
Yes, I'm aware Life finds other ways to resolve its inner conflicts'
however, for me, TROM is my peanut [reference to George Washington Carver
who made the peanut
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Enjoy this video about the 5 key expansions of consciousness.
http://peacefulinhabitant.com/5-gateways-documentary/
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Paul wrote: and found that I could change importances at will.
The ability to assign importances at will -- another plus point for doing RI
For example, a blank sheet of paper is worshipped by all.
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Hello Jurgen,
Yes, good idea. To add to that I've also had some insights into relative
importances of the four different types. For example, I would RI a
must-be-knowner -- make him important to me
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Thank you Teresa for answering me on your emails. I really needed that.
It seems that Elevating for myself is insight and wisdom gained and then
I feel I've scored points with my RI. It's been very
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Enjoy:
The very best advice I can give you at the outset is to be very
positive when you do the exercises; then be very passive and willing to
learn when bits of your past show up. In this way you’ll most
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I'd been meaning to post this and seeing Theresa's post encouraged me.
Just remember, I fall into the category of compulsive games player - quite
compulsive, however since I began doing RI everyday for a
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Paul, thank you for some more encouragement to continue. I have to say
I've had some of the best education on the planet when it comes to
understanding the being and the mind, and that education does me
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Dhukka is the Buddhist term for case or bank or mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SkrYF8lCU
How am I supposed to keep on feeding you?
Feed me, feed me ...
Okay, how about a King of Creation?
Yes -
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Hello Svoboda,
It is nice to see someone else making applicable tech.
To answer your question, when I am in session mode I can take apart the
components of processed foods -- game strategies exposed, and
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Taken from transcript of lecture, The Unstacking Procedure. In the first
part of the tape he takes apart the Unstacking Procedure analytically, and
then next he convincingly explains how the mind is
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When happy, do practice.
When unhappy, do practice.
Only when the mind is vanished can we be assured that our happiness is
eternal.
when I do my Trom exercises there is always some unhappiness felt,
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Dennis gives thorough instructions so that intellectually I understood the
rules; however now I have gained subjective conviction of the rules from my
own experience.
#2 Rule: Don't do the Core Practice
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Oh what a joy it was to be there while someone was doing RI and seeing it
for the first time and then to watch them timebreak -- really getting it.
I always felt this way too in the Church after someone
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Appreciate feedback. These are notes from an RI I did today after I put
together an apple pie to new health standards of no white sugar, only
stevia and cinnamon.
Throughout the noting I was putting my
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In Scientology we called these incidents pre-MEST (before matter, energy,
space, and time became condensed into a 3-d solid).
Having no real objects in the incident to compare with objects here and now
I
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Hello Pete -- thank you for keeping Trom on the internet and I'm waiting
for the books to come up on Amazon.
Dru, hello and welcome. I can see you are sincere and already starting to
do it. If you wish
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My dedication to my solo sessions really started to take off. Of course
it was bound to happen as I continued doing clearing work, no matter how
haphazardly I did it, however I knew I would not gain
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I have found the following techniques helpful additives to my core practice
of RI and Timebreaking. These techniques are helpful for me. Your
mileage may vary.
Repeater Technique:
Used when one spots
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Hello, Max and kind regards.
Would like to know how Trom is working for you and what was going with you
internally that caused you to find and decide to do Trom. You might have
the distinction of being
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Okay, this is the real deal as you will see when you read this win I had
last night with using Trom Level 4 commands followed up by RI:
Level 4 session with auditor rudely stripped away big chunk of
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Hello, Paul, your point well taken regarding our postulates not working and
our mind working against us regards this, a pretty accurate viewpoint of
the human condition.
The way I see it now is once one
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This is the formula I am currently following regarding the statistics or
the progress or not-progress of doing my clearing work:
NORMAL OPERATION
1. The way you maintain an increase is when you are in a
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Dukkha is a Buddhist term and the most common quote is Dukkha is
suffering.
Here is a quote from Max Sandor's Little Purple Notebook... -- his
educated insight into Dukkha:
In this notebook, *dukkha*
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Helo, Paul, thank you for the acknowledgement and encouragement. I would
just love to get feedback from someone else who tries this.
How are others' (my not-selfs) practices going? I feel the worldly
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This was my RI this a.m. and it did produce change so I thought other
Trommers might be interested in this line of RI -- using the To Be Known
goals package.
colleen
P.S. Yesterday, it was Create an
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Hello, Stanley, kind regards
I believe somewhere in the archives this has been discussed before. I
think it depends on how Clear you wish to be. If you finish Level 3 then
that would be a sort of
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From Dennis' manual:
Any list of junior universes is, of course, a list of every class of things
and ideas to be found in the universe. Such a list is only useful if
compiled in a rough sequence of
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Hello, Pete,
Even though you still did not show me where that exact quote is from Dennis
and I cannot find it with a word search, I do appreciate how you explained
it yourself. The problem with a
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Hello Eli, and All,
Taking to heart Eli's observation that there is not much talk about actual
practice results, one can start a practice log thread over at the other
Trom forum. I put some personal
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Hello, Pete, if I recall correctly, Dennis read the Trom manual and
approved of it.
Dennis admitted he had been a Must Know prior to Trom. I do not know
Greg's leanings.
colleen
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Svoboda wrote:
Such a little wonderful world of the man in the box his perceptions.)))
Recently I got to looking at something I picked up from Dennis and it
jogged me: -- TO BE HUMAN -- as a goals
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Hello Pete,
I apologize if I caused you any frustration. My bank just might be keeping
me from seeing the logic of what you are saying, and I have not studied
Trom as thoroughly as you have either.
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Hello, Pete,
Thank you for further explaining your viewpoint about the importance of to
be known.
For myself, it still brings up the question of what was the postulate
before we created not-selfs?
I
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I think we can take a clue from Dennis when he says the Surprise game is
one of the earliest games and first started out with only self (already
an adjusted viewpoint?) giving oneself a surprise.
colleen
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Hello, Nic,
Yes, it was exciting. In one session I recalled creating a distant glow
and was excited to go and find out all about it. It had become an unknown
to me and I needed to know about it.
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It's all in the doing..
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Yes, Paul, correct. The mind likes to wonder and wander.
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There you have it!
colleen
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Paul, this lines up with the Tao Te Ching which is for me a great
descriptor of a being without compulsions, but -- on earth -- living life
and not living life, i.e., games.
Here is an audiobook of Tao Te
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Hello Svoboda,
That is the way I always understood it -- everything matches in the
infinitive.
There is no problem running Level 4.
colleen
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Yes, Ant, I have become more selective in knowing and being known, thanks
to Dennis pointing all that out. Attractions/craving and aversions all
fall under the class of Compulsions and as I apply his tech
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Hello Pete,
As I see it the Non-E formula is a balancing of To Know and To Be Known
because it also emphasizes finding out what is needed and wanted.
Getting on every comm line is also a to know and to
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Firstly, I apologize for opening a can of worms. Let me explain further.
The Unstacking Procedure was a tape to Greg, who asked Dennis to evaluate
someone else's tech called the Unstacking Procedure.
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I see that quotation marks turn into question marks on this list :-)
Vladimir, I like this approach and also it brings up material for running
RI.
Colleen
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From Dennis:
*The Law of Duality.* This states that the assignment of importance to a
thing, or class of things, automatically assigns importance to the opposite
or absence of those things. Thus, if life
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Lovely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05c7SkvFY_o
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Every a.m. I do the RI commands and then start Level Two. It is with more
ease than before that I can bring up brightly colored scenes and scroll
through them, sometimes yawning off charge.
Since I
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I've been listening to Dennis explain Associations or Bonding and
during my Level Two sessions I also sometimes look for associations. For
example, I'm looking at a small ceramic bowl, feeling affinity
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To Know is the highest cause in this matrix
En route he will discover, or re-discover, all there is to know about
life; he will also discover his true nature as a spiritual being.
Due to the nature of
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Rick Archer has conducted 230 interviews of spiritually awakening people
living normal lives.
This video is an interview of him so that you get a flavor of him and his
purpose.
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From manual,
*Be Known*
This is the creative postulate – the postulate that brings the effect into
existence. His Pan Determined postulate that goes with it at the other end
of the comm line is ‘know’.
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My current struggle is ridding my compulsive non-complementary
participation in the human game. To say NO to the opportunities to get
involved (my ego?) and to commit to quieting the mind and no longer
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Now what do I mean by change? *Any* change in awareness, sensations,
emotions, etc. A yawn, for example, is a change. It is a sign that
unconsciousness is lifting. One therefore goes on with the exercise.
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Hello, Paul,
Yes, it is beautiful the way the two processes work for a being. Negative
gain balanced with positive gain. The only fault is mine in not
consistently doing both. I'll go along good for a
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Sent to me by Ralph Hilton:
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Hello, Paul,
Thank you for your instructs regarding havingness. What other havingness
processes have you found to be helpful?
best,
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Hello, Paul, I was thinking exactly the same thing and wanted to ask Pete
whether he RI's objects or relationships? If I RI a really hot importance
(never short of those) then I feel a release of laughter
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...or burned at the stake while your little children are watching...
[said in all wry humor].
A rousing speech, Paul. Liked captive observer
You actually made it sound like fun -- did not Dennis promise
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Hello Pete,
When you were doing creative RI was change occurring, aside from the meter
reads?
cheers!
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That's good on you Richard. Yes, e-meters are kinda cool. I look on
them as training wheels on a bike, so to speak.
In the end we will all end up agreeing with Alberto.
I was still wondering about
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She did not wish to show miracles for the sake of miracles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goBuM_BoXpI
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I was about to place a document about doing Level 2 on Cory's new TROM
forum and happened across one of Paul Tipon's posts that I had saved under
Level 2 category. He reported that he compared the person
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I found out recently that self-invalidation and beating myself up was
eating into my ability to actually run a process -- because I did not meet
my self-expectations to do it yesterday.
Tolle answered
, and now it is simply an act of
grooving in. I'm glad you are having fun with it -- plenty of RI will
keep it fun.
love,
colleen
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Colleen K. Peltomaa cygnifi...@gmail.comwrote:
Good to see your post and I'm glad you got some good vibes from doing RI
and Level 2
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Here is the link: http://www.freezoneamerica.org/pilot/sscio/index.html
One of my first reads when I left the CofS and before I ran my own Dianetic
chain back to separation from static and its later on
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Thank you, Ralph. I felt the love -- tough love :-))
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Hello, Martin,
Your posts are precise and succint and I appreciate them. Thank you for
putting time in perspective.
Occasionally, during a session I get to exteriorize my viewpoint and a few
times I
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Hello Alberto, I agree with your no-self :-))
It is mostly joyful for me to take apart what is really not me. I've also
been timebreaking somatics in the body and I notice the body becoming less
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During my grade 2 session (Overts and Withholds) I spied a game strategy
and felt its location and characteristics associated with that mock-up
created to facilitate that type of game. In other words, I'm
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Hello El-J,
Thank you for your comprehensive and easy to read post. I have often felt
sadness and loss while the ego is
dissolving, but it happened so often that I now know it as a good thing.
During a
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Hello Dave,
For myself it depends on how noisy my mind is.
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This is the heading near the front of the TROM Manual. Since it is near
the front it might be important to thoroughly understand before going on to
read the rest of the manual. This is one of those
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Slim writes:
Learn to be independent as soon as you can . You don't need anyone to help
you and the sooner you go into session on your own the sooner you'll be
done with others helping you ever again.
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Been running RI on have spontaneously and in formal session.
Everytime I have a good session I find more HAVE can be run.
I can be more creative after a good session. HAVE SOMETHING, then 360'd
that.
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Yes, I've been doing that feeling of wanting that accompanies must have
and it is putting steam to my RI
and now doing RI outside of session whenever I catch a wanting. During
formal session can expand
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Trey Lotz specializes in delivering the Scientology processes
called the L's and he delivered this talk recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nR2fanGuqgfeature=youtu.be
colleen
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Thank you for setting an example. Eckhart Tolle community has some buzz
about Tolle's description of Frequency Holders for the planet. He
honors those who are creative extroverts (voluntary games
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