Re: [TruthTalk] Elect Me for Moderator

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    Blaine:   ROTFL!!!  THIS IS THE BEST YET!!    Dave H wrote:   "And as you know..since I would be very reluctant to give somebody the boot, I would think TT would grow under my warm and fuzzy leadership, as opposed to shrinking under Dean's dictatorial executative (I had to coin that

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Specifically, you presume to know too much.  See "presumptuousness" in your dictionary.   Blaine On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:11:55 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What specifically is the problem?   Please elaborate, don't just poison the well.Blaine R Borro

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:47 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There is NO CONSTITUTIONAL Right to Peace & Quiet   ** Jus' keep believing that, Kevin, and one of these days you will get arrested for disturbing the peace--or for violating some town's  noise or

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Faux-Christians

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:44:42 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy,   I never said you “rejected” me.  If you can read what you wrote, you can see that I was honoring your request.  (Twist that however you wish, but it’s still there in black and white.)

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
DaveM wrote:   It is a shame because they are teaching them that authority comes from man instead of from God.    ** Blaine:  Dave, you should know better than to say this.  You know that  "they" (LDS) teach that all authority to act in God's name comes from God--It is called priesthood auth

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
s women--eminently qualified for their jobs.  When they get through a foreign mission they are often sought after by government agencies--FBI, linguistics, etc, due to their integrity and language experience.   Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Oh, well, that was definitely informative, Dave, thank you !! Just so I get this straight, the Trinity doctrine says there are actually three separate persons in the Godhead? Blaine On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:45:34 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine wrote: > > I suppose as Je

Re: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
the AGES?   So could you explain how my prejudice is soo obvious? Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The word PAGAN refers to people who lived in the country, and worshipped nature.  The Catholic Church branded them Villains (villagers).  Mormon

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Differences

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:49:14 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Blaine, ONLY after ALL we can do? Sounds good! Talk is CHEAP God is interested in what you DO, not what you talk. With that in mind, could you answer these for us?   Have you REALLY done ALL tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
This just refers to how long spirits per se have been around, I think.  Has nada to do with being equal to God.  This touches on a VERY deep subject,  like which came first, the chicken or the egg, or which came first, spirits or God??   Apparently he is saying the answer is, Neither.  They

Re: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Priesthood. Hunter was a General Authority, First Council of the Seventy 1945-1975   Are you contending that LDS Apologists do not use PAGAN sources to prove LDS believe what ancient "believers" believed, thru the AGES?   So could you explain how my prejudice is sooooo

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk List Volume

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Good idea, Dave.  I am spending far too much time trying to keep up..  I am feeling overwhelmed.  Thanks.. Blaine   On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:07:22 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> I'm starting to get complaints about the volume on this list. > > If I decided to have a limit fo

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
  On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:33:19 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Blaine wrote:> > Dignity should be a part of anyone who thinks > > to represent the Lord--I think he was a man > > of great dignity and presence. > > You might want to rethink this.  The week of his crucifixion

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Blaine: Rebuke, rebuke, rebuke rebuke, until I want to puke, ta ta ta de dum, put up your duke! I sure am hearing this rebuke word often, as if it is sort of officially the Christian Way.That is funny, I only remember Christ rebuking a few times. Most of what he did was teach. In fact, he w

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Differences

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
ï Blaine:  This little kid I knew wanted a new bicycle, so his dad told him to save and earn all he could, for one year, and then He (dad) would make up the difference.  The little boy had limited earning power, but he did all he could do.  He worked hard at every opportunity.  At the end of t

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Differences

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
  On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:35:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Blaine wrote:> > one of our articles of faith states, "We believe > > men (and women) will be punished for their own sins, > > and not for Adam's transgression."  > > I agree with this; nevertheless, we do suff

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi DaveH,   As usual,  you write  interesting comments calculated to bring out the truth, but somehow it never comes out--I saw a sign on a jr. high music teacher's wall the other day--it read,  "Never try to teach a monkey to sing--you will only feel frustrated, and you will annoy the monke

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Blaine:  I think it would safe to say that.  If you think they have, you are probably reading into it what you want it to say--but go ahead, try me, OK?   On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:25:03 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Is that sooo.   No Authoratative Mormon Like

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Did your parents have sex > when> > > you> > > > > were conceived?  Bet they did, someday you will have to face > up> > > to> > > > > this important fact of life!!!> > > > >   By the way, the #1 book on the present NY Times> > > bes

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Blaine:  Hi Judy!! I believe all that JS has written, which you have reproduced faithfully (in red).  I do not agree with your conclusion that it is somehow adept/occult.  An adept,  if I am not mistaken, is simply a novice who is learning the ropes, and that requires going at it step by step

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
a foreign mission they are often sought after by government agencies--FBI, linguistics, etc, due to their integrity and language experience.   Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:     On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:16:01 -0800 "irebukeu" <[E

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
A!  Offal, Kevin.  Your "Knowledge" of LDS doctrine smells kinda bad!  Rotten to the core.  (:>)  Blaine   On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:49:05 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Watch out that those around you do not get decieved. I have seen christians talk to LDS deciev

Re: [TruthTalk] *****Ruben/Kevin

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Probably liked being around someone he knew was so far off base he felt superior  (LOL) Blaine   On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:24:19 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If Dean treats them so badly, why do the hang around him? They can easily leave, he won't chase them. Why do

Re: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
The word PAGAN refers to people who lived in the country, and worshipped nature.  The Catholic Church branded them Villains (villagers).  Mormons do not worship nature, neither do they all live in country villages.  (:>)  VERY Pagan indeed!!  Your prejudices are s obvious here, Kevin. 

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Blaine:  Snippy snip!    Not MORE, Dean, but we share a mutual respect I like mucho.   Again, are you married??  You need to reveal to us your marital status, Dean--we need to know where you are coming from.  (:>)   On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:14:46 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Dean & Ruben

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Good question, Dave. Blaine On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:27:29 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DAVEH: I am curious as to whether either of you two (Dean and/or > Ruben) > have walked through Temple Square as a normal visitor rather than a > protester? Have either of you been inside an

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:48:36 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > Hi Dean, Hey is this really what you mean? Not to be > antagonistic, but > > this sounds like YOU have a devil in YOU. Dave is always so calm, > and > > collected, and REASOBABLE, above all!! I ge

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Blaine: Very funny  ROFL!   On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:05:49 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Maybe he really meant his five wives went around the block one time! >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-21 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:30:36 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine wrote: > > I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormon > > ever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the > > trinity, or whatever you choose to call it. We believe that > > Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-21 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
  On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:23:44 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Blaine wrote:> > The Mormon missionaries are far from being like > > you street preachers. They wear suits, > > Some street preachers do that, just not Ruben.  He is always in > shorts.   **BlainerB  And a T sh

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-21 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
are the professing Church has a way > to> go.> > As for emulating Jesus, this is impossible because God will not > bless> what> has already been cursed and our old Adamic nature is under a > sentence of> death; this is why we must become part of the 2nd Adam.  Both are

Re: [TruthTalk] Try this one, Blaine.

2003-12-21 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
That works!!  BlaineRB   On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:26:11 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Blaine wrote: Perry, your messages go to an  attachment whenever I try to reply tothem.  Yours are the only ones that do that.  Any idea why? Blaine, I have not had anyo

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Ruben wrote:  Then we arrive at Salt Lake city in the same fashion,where we exhort those that have perverted God, teaching that he was oncelike us.or we will be gods..HOW PERVERTED.   Blaine:  I think this is purely a judgement call on Ruben's part.  There are many good scriptures showing 

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
he Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Christ, that God lives, and etc". I always thought it was to attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan. (See Mark 3:22 through 3:29) >From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
dy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   From: Blaine R Borrowman Hi Terry!!   That makes me feel good that you are interesting in helping poor DaveH,  he needs help s bad!!  I probably do also.  Glad to see your wife never gave up on

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:16:01 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BlaineRB writes: Hi again Reuben,   Now that I have given you the true lowdown regards my meeting with you and the impressions I received then, maybe we can get to know one another

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Izzy, the post office walls that is. (:>)  But sour grapes, never.  Reuben is welcome to all his glory, if waving underwear in public is what earns it for him.  But hey, I did get an article published in TIME magazine!!  Try Google, type in my full name--Blaine R. Borrowman  

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
hen he was giving his credentials? >From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:33:42 -0700 > >Hi again Reuben, >

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
t he was God.  LOL   Or, how do we know he might have been Hispanic? Answer:  Because he was poor and his first name was Jesus  (pronounced Hey-suse).  (:>)   Peace,  BlaineRB   On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:54:26 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   From: Blaine R Borrowman Hi T

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi again Reuben,   Now that I have given you the true lowdown regards my meeting with you and the impressions I received then, maybe we can get to know one another on other levels than you attacking Mormonism.  (You do seem more than a little obsessed with doing so.) (:>)    I read your disc

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi Terry!!   That makes me feel good that you are interesting in helping poor DaveH,  he needs help s bad!!  I probably do also.  Glad to see your wife never gave up on you.  She must be a gem.  Hang in there, and maybe DaveH and myself will someday see the light!!  LOL   BlaineRB   On Tu

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Reuben,  Please see my post regards my street meeting with you and carroll, and the impressions I had regarding your lack of understanding of LDS  Church workings and doctrines.  You guys are so totally ignorant!!  I felt like we were in two different universes.   I wanted to help you two ge

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
DaveM, You are correct--very correct--on this point. A former Bishop informed me excommunication is sure to happen nowadays if you actually practice plural marriage and refuse to give it up. This is true for men and for women alike. However, I am equally certain the church still believes thos

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
having received a perfect knowledge via the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Christ, that God lives, and etc". I always thought it was to attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan. (See Mark 3:22 through 3:29) >From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-

Re: [TruthTalk] LDS Prophet's Miracle of Forgiveness

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi Reuben, When I first met you and Dean (Carroll) in SLC during the 2001 conference time, I was somewhat favorably impressed, since at that time you were not into this gross stuff of waving underclothing around.  You seemed to have a favorable attitude toward living righteously, morally etc.

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-16 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hey people, I am way behind in answering e-mail--I have about 130 posts yet to read, most of them from TT. I am going to have my computer worked on, which may involve reprogramming the hard drive, unless the problem turns out to be the modem--the basic problem is, I can send and receive e-mail, bu

Re: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments

2003-12-13 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
able to go with any answers. From now on, I will zip my lips!! BlaineRB On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:12:04 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Blaine R Borrowman wrote: > > > If truth were to be told however, > > DAVEH: Hmm...is this the proper p

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-13 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
For the record, the Mormon perspective on this question:: The blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is to shed innocent blood after having received a perfect knowledge via the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Christ, that God lives, and etc. Persons without this perfect knowledge cannot commit this sin.

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-13 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hey, Thank you Terry, you are a gentleman.  I like hearing praise and getting "way to go's"  Also, I appreciate the new info.  I Shoulda known a carpenter would not be rich--too seasonal.  Joseph Smith was also poor--interesting parallel between him and Messiah, huh?  BlaineRB   On Tue, 9 De

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-13 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
red to your brand of Christianity, is a "load of BS."  We need to avoid superficial labeling, and actually compare doctrines, huh?    Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi terry, I just HAD to butt in on your conversation with DavidH.  You said, &q

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-13 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
BlaineRB:  Yeah, Terry, I think I see what you are trying to say, but it seems like you are just labeling (so that when someone presents a load of BS ).  To say Mormonism is a "load of BS," or "the lie sticks out like a hair on a biscuit," is one thing, to show it is in that category is yet

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
smoke ascendeth up forever and ever, which lake of fire and brimstone is endless torment.     Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BlaineRB:  The explanation furnished by DavidH below is 100% accurate as far as Mormon beliefs and teachings are c

Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Blaine, can I get a scripture reference for your parenthetical comment on the answer to question 9? Thanks, Perry >From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
BlaineRB:  The explanation furnished by DavidH below is 100% accurate as far as Mormon beliefs and teachings are concerned.    It is the truth.  I applaud David for explaining it.  Mormons believe in salvation for all if by salvation we mean being resurrected and becoming immortal.  But to r

Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:08:01 -0600 "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Your attention please. This is a test on your knowledge of what the Bible says about the birth of our savior.  You must answer at least one hundred and seventeen percent of these questions correctly, or

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi terry, I just HAD to butt in on your conversation with DavidH.  You said, " If you know the truth, you will know a lie, even though you have not studied the lie."  I am amazed you could write this contradiction.  Are you sure this is what you meant?   Shalom,   BlaineRB

Re: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
quare on the right breast? The mason's compass on the left?   Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin wrote:    "In the garden Adam & Eve tried unsuccessfully, to cover their sin with "fig leaf Aprons"."  

Re: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:55:18 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Blaine. Welcome back. I did not realize that you were on the > list. > It is good to hear from another Mormon. Maybe Dave won't feel so > alone > and in the cross hairs. :-) **BlaineRB Thanks, DavidM, I hope m

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Dean wrote,  "You have no respect to those who have the courage > to actually fight the war you should be helping to fight."       Dean (Carroll),  you seem to have what amounts to an almost unshakable belief in your "war" against Mormonism.  May I remind you that many Nazis had a similarly

Re: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments

2003-12-07 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Kevin wrote:    "In the garden Adam & Eve tried unsuccessfully, to cover their sin with "fig leaf Aprons"."       BlaineRB:  The scripture does not say the fig leaf apron was to cover their sin, but apparently was only to temporarily cover their Nakedness.    Please note the scripture as