Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
Which conveniently aligns the words of Jesus in Matt 5:48 with doctrines that teach that noone can be holy or perfect even in Christ until the last trump when they will be miraculously changed in the twinkling of an eye (or something like that).   Judy, let's just say for the sake of argument

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-20 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:40:54 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: To begin with the author is not a man Bill   My apologies to men.   Who is the master of sarcasim???   Yet you and your scholarly friends (most especially Lance) make the claim that an ordina

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-19 Thread Taylor
  To begin with the author is not a man Bill   My apologies to men.   Yet you and your scholarly friends (most especially Lance) make the claim that an ordinary person (a plain old vanilla Christian ignorant of Greek) can not know God's Word for one reason or another -

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-19 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:39:27 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Why do you always ignore the main point JD which is being under the Law of Christ.  You are very vocal about the Mosaic Law but seem always to avoid the latter.  I guess you must be "antinomian" after

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-19 Thread ttxpress
  myth (the law of Christ is opposed to the law of Moses)     On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:19:04 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: .. the main point.. is being under the Law of Christ.  [protest]  the Mosaic Law but..avoid the [LofC]..

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-19 Thread Taylor
Judy writes  >  I post the following as "Selected" with the hope that the message will be taken seriously rather than the opportunity to tear down the messenger:   Hi all,   If you are interested in reading the rest of this man's words against using men's words to "correct" the word of God,

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-19 Thread knpraise
  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:19:04 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law   PS: Why do you always ignore the main point JD which is being under the Law of Christ.  You are very vocal about the

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-18 Thread knpraise
  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:43:53 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law The question of the day is... Why would God present an impossibilit

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-18 Thread knpraise
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law And you will never be as perfect as the Heavenly Father, you will not pluck out your eye or tell others to do so, ditto for the cutting off of the hand.   The S

RE: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law   John writes:  New Testament scripture is not about law. It   can't be.  Why not? Sure it can be, in fact the Spirit of the Law is more stringent than the Mosaic Law itself and Paul says of himself "Not being without the law to God

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-18 Thread Judy Taylor
A few additional comments  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:04:45 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law   Regarding the recent discussion abo

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-18 Thread knpraise
finally      And I will do just that.   JD  -Original Message-From: Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:12:58 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law John writes  >  Christ . . . speaks of perfection as the Heavenly

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-18 Thread Judy Taylor
ye therefore perfect." Check it out and see if you agree.   Bill   By the way, I'm back -- and about 600 messages behind. I'll try to get caught up, but probably won't be doing much in the way of posting, as I am perpetually swamped with papers to grade. -

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-17 Thread Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law And you will never be as perfect as the Heavenly Father, you will not pluck out your eye or tell others to do so, ditto for the cutting off of the hand.   Th

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/13/2005 5:37:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DAVEH:   Just me! :-) cd: Sorry to disapoint you DaveH but you are in your own way not mine.ShieldsFamily wrote: Dean

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   Just me! :-) ShieldsFamily wrote: Dean, have you actually had any mountains that were in your way? iz -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting,

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread knpraise
st and the Law       - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 11:30:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DEan  -  what are doing in your comments below?   Have you forgotten the point I was trying to make.   I suggest to you that, i

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread Dean Moore
/2005 10:06:04 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law do do do do --  do do do do  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:26:53 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law you ar

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 11:30:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DEan  -  what are doing in your comments below?   Have you forgotten the point I was trying to make.   I suggest to you that, in deed, you

RE: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/13/2005 7:26:16 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Dean, have you actually had any mountains that were in your way? iz cd: No but it would make a better view if removed:-) In front

RE: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, have you actually had any mountains that were in your way? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:57 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law   cd: Added

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your LDS Repentance is NG like your last New years resolution:   Have you STOPPED SINNING? Page 67 of the LDS Church manual Gospel Fundamentals insists, "Our Father in heaven does not sin, and He does not allow people who sin to live with Him. To live with Him, we must repent of our sins. To repent

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Perhaps it is a problem with "KEEP COMMANDMENTS"? KEEP: not to lose or part with, to fulfill; to perform; as, to keep one's word,promise or covenant.   D&C 25:15 Keep my commandments continually, and a crown of righteousness thou shalt receive. And except thou do this, where I am you cannot come.

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
By deeds I meant your walk should match your deeds Not your Talk.   YOU MUST FORSAKE - ABANDON SIN "The forsaking of sin must be a permanent one. True repentance does not permit making the same mistake again." (Tract, Repentance Brings Forgiveness).   FORSAKE: to renounce or turn away from entirely

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   Noit wasn't my intention to leave you out of it, G.  ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this an adults-only conversation?   On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:41:57 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What do your deeds show? DAVEH:   I don't want them to s

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread ttxpress
is this an adults-only conversation?   On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:41:57 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What do your deeds show? DAVEH:   I don't want them to show anything, Kevin. ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:42:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DAVEH:   Good answer, Bishop.  I rather like it.  Though it is an erroneous argument, as walking on water, moving mountains, etc.are not commandments, but effect

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
What do your deeds show? DAVEH:   I don't want them to show anything, Kevin.    I consider doing such to be somewhat like the Lord's advice in Mt 6:1..So, I'll leave it for you to make such claims, and if you wish to think less of me for my reluctance to proclaim such deeds, that's your pr

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
a command statement and a good piece of advice or cultural observation/solution?     Jd  -Original Message-From: Dean Moore moore@earthlink.net>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:57:28 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law cd: Added below.    

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
Really.   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:17:03 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law too bad DaveH has no similar feel for these critiques     On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:16:53 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
do do do do --  do do do do  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:26:53 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law you are starting to sound like Rod Serling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread ttxpress
reaking me out  !!!   JD  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:47:56 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Too bad DH is gonna earn it himself & Jesus![EM

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dean Moore
:-) A lot of truth in jokes bro.     - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 6:57:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Now you are just trying to make me mad  !!     -Original Message-From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
secret post  !!!   JD  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:01:21 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Like I said a long time ago, you really have not spent any energy understandi

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
-  who said "peace is the time when both sides stop to reload ?? "     Maybe thats it  !!   JD -Original Message-From: Dean Moore moore@earthlink.net>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:45:41 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
Please refer to secret post  !!!   JD  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:01:21 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Like I said a long time ago, you really have not spent any

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
ot;peace is the time when both sides stop to reload ?? "     Maybe thats it  !!   JD -Original Message-From: Dean Moore moore@earthlink.net>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:45:41 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law - Original Message --

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
t: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:45:41 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law       - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 6:22:12 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law I am really proud of you. cd: Man -I have been here too

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
Now you are just trying to make me mad  !!     -Original Message-From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:47:40 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law       - Original Message - From: To: Tru

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 6:36:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law YOU THINK YOU GOT THREE BLOCKS FROM THE FUNNY FARM  --  DON'T YOU   Let me tell you this,   I AM NOT ONE BIT MORE NUTS THAT I WA

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 6:22:12 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law I am really proud of you. cd: Man -I have been here too long.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something is seriously wrong, here

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
eason.       jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:22:09 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law I am really proud of you.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something is seriously wrong, here,  Deegan.

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:47:56 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Too bad DH is gonna earn it himself & Jesus![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and amen  !!   Imputed righteousness YES !!   Deserved  (read: earned) righteo

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
2 Nov 2005 14:47:56 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Too bad DH is gonna earn it himself & Jesus![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and amen  !!   Imputed righteousness YES !!   Deserved  (read: earned) righteousness NO  !!    JD  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deeg

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
So since you DO NOT keep them does that mean you do not really love, only in word?   When is your walk gonna start matching your talk? Talk is cheap, does not cost you a thing.   1 JN 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.   What do your deeds

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
ov 2005 07:32:02 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Added below.     - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 3:51:51 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law       - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 3:21:39 PM Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 3:21:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law So he was just talking to hear his head rattle --  or maybe he was just kidding around, or maybe he was being just a tad bit arrogant since he

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
14:52:38 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law cd: I walk on water every time it rains. And if God wanted his mountains moved he wouldn't have put them there in the first place:-)     - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 2:

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
Bishop   -Original Message-From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:42:26 -0800Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DAVEH:   Good answer, Bishop.  I rather like it.  Though it is an erroneous argument, as walking on water, moving mou

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dean Moore
cd: I walk on water every time it rains. And if God wanted his mountains moved he wouldn't have put them there in the first place:-)     - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/12/2005 2:42:35 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
al Message- From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:33:46 -0800 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DAVEH:   If that is not possible, then why the commandment to do so?  Mt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Fa

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
ism as the means to salvation.      JD  -Original Message-From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:33:46 -0800Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law DAVEH:   If that is not possible, then why the commandment to do so?  Mt 5:48...

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
We aren't always able to keep even those two. DAVEH:   Perhaps you have overlooked the Lord's comment in Jn 14:1.. If you ye love me, keep my commandments. ...which to me indicates that loving God implies becoming sinless.    No Terry, I don't think you overlooked it, but rather I su

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
Yes and amen  !!   Imputed righteousness YES !!   Deserved  (read: earned) righteousness NO  !!    JD  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:32:02 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law E

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
il.com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:19:35 -0800Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law >Date: Sat,

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
So, I do not believe that it is a commandment that we be sinless, DAVEH:    Really!?!?!?!   I realize I took your comment slightly out of context, but did you really mean to suggest that the Lord did not command us to be sinless?  Excepting DavidM, I wonder if other TTers would agree with you?

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
 NO PROBLEM! PTL!   Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law>Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:23:22 -0500>>Perry, the issue of &quo

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DAVEH: It seems to me that in whatever way God is perfect, or complete.that is what we have the potential to become, and have been commanded to do so. Do you agree, Perry? I do not believe that the KJV translators intended to use the word "perfect" wi

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:23:22 -0500 Perry, the issue of "sinless" perfection or sinless maturity is not resolved with Strong's definiti

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Mormon salvation - Mission Impossible!   "…to receive the Lord would mean loving him and obeying all his commandments: to receive the Father would mean to leave nothing undone toward arriving at personal perfection; and all this means exaltation and eternal life… If we measure up fully we are guar

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread knpraise
ows us to think something other than "sinless"  or "without flaw?"   If  so , what and why?    If not,  ditto (?)     JD  -Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke <cpl2602@hotmail.com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:13:20 -0800Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
This progress toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through that perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lord gave us. In his Sermon on the Mount he made the command t

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Terry Clifton
Good mornin', Dave.  You might want to consider that the Jews were given a whole sack full of commands, and not one Jew with the exception of Jesus was ever able to keep them.  We Gentile Christians were given two commands.  We aren't always able to keep even those two. Who has ever loved their

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
So that LDS can talk the talk but not walk the walk!   Are you progressing? Are you a 'god' yet?   You commit the same sins this year you did last year & the years before that. LDS repentance is just a sham It is NO better than last years New Years Resolution. It makes NO Difference!Dave <[EMAIL PR

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-12 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   It seems to me that in whatever way God is perfect, or complete.that is what we have the potential to become, and have been commanded to do so.   Do you agree, Perry? 5046 teleioV teleios tel'-i-os from teloV - telos 5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, men

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Dave, I understand that in 1611 "perfect" meant what "complete" means today. So, what if you re-read that verse in today's language? If you have a Strong's dictionary, read the definition for "perfect" (greek 5046). After reading it, do you still think this is a commandment to be "perfect" a

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-11 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   If that is not possible, then why the commandment to do so?  Mt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. .Doesn't it seem odd to have a commandment that is not obtainable? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you will never be

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-11 Thread knpraise
!!!   You must love ME  !     Jd -Original Message-From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:10:17 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law Jesus does not talk just to make noise, John.  Those who love Him hang

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-11 Thread Terry Clifton
, then I plead guilty to being a legalist. Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few additional comments    -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:04:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-10 Thread knpraise
A few additional comments  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:04:45 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law   Regarding the recent discussion about divorce and remarriage:   My advice to couples finding

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-10 Thread knpraise
Who ??    -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0600Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law If you want to understand the "sermon on the mount" you should read Dallas Willa

RE: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law       Regarding the recent discussion about divorce and remarriage:   My advice to couples finding themselves in impossible or difficult situations includes admonitions to try to work things out.   I do not view the Sermon on the Mount as a

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law

2005-11-10 Thread knpraise
  Regarding the recent discussion about divorce and remarriage:   My advice to couples finding themselves in impossible or difficult situations includes admonitions to try to work things out.   I do not view the Sermon on the Mount as a legal document.   My God is not a legalist.    "You have hea