David -- in the past, I have not done well in comparing notes on logic:with you and I know it. So I have decided to limit my comments to my forte -- what the book says and how it has practical or meaningful application in our world and in our lives. I have much to learn, in this regar
David -- why did you send this to me? I am mising something. -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:38:24 AM Eastern Daylight TimeSubject: (no subject)
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Jonathan Hughes wrote:
Hi Judy,
I have a
book entitled “Adventures
in Missing the Point” by Brian McClaren and Tony Campolo. Although
I doubt you would enjoy the book I love the title. It is no secret
that
you have had run-ins with nearly every single person on this forum
Hi Judy,
I have a book entitled “Adventures
in Missing the Point” by Brian McClaren and Tony Campolo. Although
I doubt you would enjoy the book I love the title. It is no secret that
you have had run-ins with nearly every single person on this forum. Can
we all be so wrong? Please t
As I see it, Bill is a litle too thin skinned. Having said that, I must add the belief that the observation really doesn't matter much if offense has been taken. I felt Jonathan was not only too thin skinned but wrong in how he understood some of my comments. But clearly, he was offended.
Judy,
Although you are neither stumbled nor
offended you are entirely naive. It is shocking how you attempt to
wrestle away any responsibility for your posts, for your tone, for the strife
you have caused. At some point in your life you may need to take
seriously what others think abo
Peace to you, Judy. You do not read for
understanding. If you did, you would understand what I say below by the things I
have said many times before. Nope, yours is a different ambition. You read
only to find something you can use to stir up strife. Well, guess what?
Peace to you. I'm not bi
Jesus left the crowds he did not leave these things behind. He kept them fully
intact, presenting them whole to his Father.
Bill
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John, this is absolutely wonderful. You are very
much on the mark! I am glad you've had the opportunity to listen to Kruger and
see that he is not the bad man that some among us may imagine. Yes, as with all
that is good, fellowship finds it source in the heart of God: Father, Son, and
Holy
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Having said that, I think you may have unwittingly put God in a box by assuming that He always wants His followers (or his animals) in continual close contact. Abraham was a nomad, not a member of a communit
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The reason it's blue and underlined is because it's one great big link to send email to TruthTalk. Should this ever happen again, convert your email to PLAIN TEXT (found under "Format" at the top of the window
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Bill, you wanted to see where I was going with this "image" thing.Â
Here it is. Krugers idea regarding "fellowship" as being the very
essence of God has nearly force these ideas into my thinking and the
result is as follows:ÂÂ
(for some reason I cannot change the
Behalf Of
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transmission. I neither wrote the piece in blue and underlined
Sorry about the transmission. I neither wrote the piece in blue and underlined, but it actually had paragraphs and the like. The wording is the same, however so all is not bad (apart from the paper itself).
John
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DAVEH: Sorry to take so long getting back to this, Perry. Seems like
there is always more pressing things with which to deal.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH, do you think these two verses
are referring to the same thing, or to different things? How does this
affect your understanding of 1
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DavidH wrote:
I do intend to do some studying of the
passage when I get time. I simply don't have the time to deal with it
right now.
Excellent. I look forward to hearing from you on this when you get the
time.
I gave you a nod to
DavidH wrote:
I do intend to do some studying of the passage when I get time. I simply
don't have the time to deal with it right now.
Excellent. I look forward to hearing from you on this when you get the time.
I gave you a nod to the effect that you produced some viable evidence that
I intend
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH, do you think these two verses are referring to the
same thing, or to different things?
DAVEH: I don't know, Perry. I received it just before I had to go to
work this morning. I got home (picked up nephew Jeff at the airport
this evening) tonight at nearly
DaveH, do you think these two verses are referring to the same thing, or to
different things? How does this affect your understanding of 1 Peter 4:5,6?
David, the reason I did not want to take the time to search out other
references that support my understanding of the 1 Peter verses is that doi
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DavidH, read Ephesians 2:1. Reconcile it with 1 Peter 4:5. Are they
referring to the same thing, or to different things?
DAVEH: Very good, Perry. There is some evidence to support your
beliefs..Thank you for sharing it!
In Peter 4:6, I believe that the 'dead' ar
DavidH, read Ephesians 2:1. Reconcile it with 1 Peter 4:5. Are they
referring to the same thing, or to different things?
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Charles
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
The Holy Spirit put the words in Paul's
mouth...I just read them. Are you calling me the Holy Spirit? :-)
DAVEH: That's what I find interesting about learning what you think,
Perry. The Lord's servants were divinely inspired, but I wonder
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
So, all are without excuse. It is not necessary that one has heard
the gospel to face the judgement, or to be redeemed, for that matter. It
appears that ALL have had the opportunity to know and worship God,
either through the gospel, or
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
So, all are without excuse. It is not
necessary that one has heard the gospel to face the judgement, or to be
redeemed, for that matter. It appears that ALL have had the opportunity
to know and worship God, either through the gospel, or for Paul's
stated r
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
After reading vss 15ff..., I just don't see why you think these
apply. When vs 18 says /all/, it is referring to/ ungodliness/ and
/unrighteousness/. That is distinctly different from *those *who are
ungodly or unrighteous. As vs 16 infers, salvation i
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
After reading vss 15ff..., I just
don't see why you think these apply. When vs 18 says /all/, it is
referring to/ ungodliness/ and /unrighteousness/. That is distinctly
different from *those *who are ungodly or unrighteous. As vs 16
infers, salvation i
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
After reading vss 15ff..., I just don't see why you think these
apply. When vs 18 says /all/, it is referring to/ ungodliness/ and
/unrighteousness/. That is distinctly different from *those *who are
ungodly or unrighteous. As vs 16 infers, salvation i
himself
evident to everyone, first by that which is manifest in them and, second, He
is made evident in His creation.
Perry
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If it wasn't my response should have been: 1. yes
2. no 3. no
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subject)
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
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the aid of the
Holy Spirit, with themselves. It just doesn't happen. I believe that many live
in denial of this apparent reality.
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Dave
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Lance Muir
1. yes 2. no
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Lance Muir wrote:
1. yes 2. no 3. noDAVEH: Thanx for your
direct answer, Lance. May I question you a bit further.
1
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
1) Do you believe all men will have the opportunity to accept Jesus?
No.
2) Do you believe there are any mortals who
do not get that chance while in mortality?
Lance Muir wrote:
1. yes 2. no 3. no
DAVEH: Thanx for your direct answer, Lance. May I question you a bit
further.
1) Do you believe all men will have the opportunity to accept Jesus?
2) Do you believe there are any mortals who do not get that chance
while in mortality?
: [TruthTalk] (no subject)
In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of
God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of
men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known
of God is manifest in them; for God hath s
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of
God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of
men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be
known of God is ma
DAVEH wrote: ??? How can you perceive it as a second chance IF they
never had a first chance prior??? Let me ask it this way, Laura..do
you think God gives everybody a FIRST chance to hear the gospel and accept
Jesus? IOW..do you think there are any mortals who never had the
chanc
1. yes 2. no 3. no
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Sent: June 03, 2004 10:37
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>
>
> Charles Perry Locke wrote:
>
> > In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just sha
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the
wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because
that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath
if they do not hear from US they will hear from
HIM.
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Dave
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Sent: June 03, 2004 09:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no
subject)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central
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In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
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DAVEH:
Ignore for a moment your concern for a second chance after
death. (That is a different discussion, Laura.) Do you believe those
who do not have the chance
In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Ignore for a moment your concern for a second chance after death. (That is a different discussion, Laura.) Do you believe those who do not have the chance to accept Jesus while in mortality, will h
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:32:36 -0700
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In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
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DAVEH: I'm hung up on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: I'm hung up on it because I find
the popular Christian perception to be very interesting. To me it is
obviously
In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting. To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian
perception to be very interesting. To me it is obviously symbolic, but
to most Christians it seems to be a literal lake of fire. Yet (to me)
it seems so illogical.That a loving God would pun
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