Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Joe Walter
- Original Message - From: "Mark Ballinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations > Well, geez. If we're voting, I vote for the new way. After all . . . > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html >

[U2] connection within UniVerse and Oracle

2006-02-27 Thread frederick . kuan
I am trying to establish a connection between UniVerse 10.1 ( aix unix ) and Oracle (Window 2003), has anyone done this before? I was told to either use socket connection or ODBC. It seems that it is not that easy to use socket connection talking to Oracle, so I am thinking of using ODBC? Any i

Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Louie Bergsagel
Well, maybe in the spirit of democracy, the U2UG should vote for their preference. I like the new way myself, as it is much harder to accidently email everyone when I just want to respond to the sender, and easier to do both. Before, I would have to cut and paste the sender's name into the "to" w

Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Bob Little
Bill Haskett wrote: Please forgive my attitude; I've almost completed a D3 to UniData conversion project and have been wondering why any non-MV developer would ever use U2 and any MV developer would use UniData. Bill I'd like to hear more of this conversion story and the opinions it fos

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
I couldn't care less what Sun or MySql does; the MV market was built on rationality not inconvenient standards de'jour, so why should we have to "twiddle" with a simple reply due to some "technical" reason? Argh. Sadly there is a large world out there that can't be ignored. As Larry put it,

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Bill Haskett
David: I'm reminded of the building contractor who, when asked why there's no lock on the front and back doors, replies that none of the other doors in the house have locks on them...besides, you'll get used to it. It is a constant in the IT industry that we are all forced to overcome the lack of

Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Mark Ballinger
Well, geez. If we're voting, I vote for the new way. After all . . . http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html (and, yes, I expect the response article will be referred to quickly enough here.) Just about every list I belong to has had this very same discussion. Just about every one ha

Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread John Hester
Logan, David (SST - Adelaide) wrote: Sounds like the sky is falling. This is by no means a "unique situation", this works well on numerous other lists (that I subscribe to) so why not this one? Surely the subscribers are not that silly. I know the average age of the Universe/Unidata afficionado i

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Larry Hiscock
A) I don't understand why you would have to change anything to send your email to the list through a remailer. B) the list does NOT accept email from unsubscribed users. I manually approved your recent post that was sent from an unsubscribed address because I felt it was germaine, and I didn't wa

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Nick Cipollina
I agree with Tony. I have never been subscribed to a list where I had to reply to all, just to reply to a thread. Please put it back the way it was. Thanks, Nick Cipollina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Monday, Fe

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Larry Hiscock
Hi Tony, Thanks for your comments. This is not a "completely unique solution" -- it's actually the way most of the other mailing lists that I've been on are run (and I'm currently on over a dozen), and it's the practice recommended by the author of Majordomo. I ignored his advice when I initiall

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Tony Gravagno
Logan, David wrote: > Sounds like the sky is falling. This is by no means a "unique > situation", this works well on numerous other lists (that I subscribe > to) so why not this one? Surely the subscribers are not that silly. I > know the average age of the Universe/Unidata afficionado is slowly >

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
This is a relatively minor change and the dark side of the force seem to be gathering strength against it. The list headers still have the u2ug address in them and your rules should still apply. If not, then change them so they do! Perhaps the dark side haven't really explained themselves well but

RE: [U2] - Java - AJAX

2006-02-27 Thread Bill Haskett
Glen: You're a better man than I, being able to work with all these technologies! I've given up. People don't want what they say they want, nor do they want to minimize costs and maximize profit. Thanks to the educational system and current culture everything is now "form over substance". :-)

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Bruce Nichol
At 14:03 27/02/06 -0800, Tony Gravagno wrote: This is breaking all kinds of things including filters, remailers, and maybe threading for some reader programs. It's going to create confusion when people mail to one another off-list. And for anyone who isn't familiar with this completely unique

Re: [U2] - Java - AJAX

2006-02-27 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On 2/27/06, Brutzman, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I expect that they will post it in the near term at www.javasig.com. > > Ben demo'd AJAX techniques by coding from scratch with the IntelliJ IDE on a > Mac notebook, in front of the ~250 attendees there, an AJAX zip code lookup > thing. He ta

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Sounds like the sky is falling. This is by no means a "unique situation", this works well on numerous other lists (that I subscribe to) so why not this one? Surely the subscribers are not that silly. I know the average age of the Universe/Unidata afficionado is slowly creeping upward, but this does

[U2] Re: Trouble writing to a file over NFA

2006-02-27 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 2/27/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm picking files at random, setting up FX type VOC pointers and > testing whether I can read and write with NFA. Some I can, some, I > can't... and so far I don't see a pattern. > > Any ideas, even random guessing, is appreciated. (Yes, I'm t

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Tony Gravagno
This is breaking all kinds of things including filters, remailers, and maybe threading for some reader programs. It's going to create confusion when people mail to one another off-list. And for anyone who isn't familiar with this completely unique solution people are going to think they're respon

Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Craig Bennett
Unusually, I agree with Tony. Perhaps we should have talked on the list before making a change like this? Craig --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Tony Gravagno
This is breaking all kinds of things including filters, remailers, and maybe threading for some reader programs. It's going to create confusion when people mail to one another off-list. And for anyone who isn't familiar with this completely unique solution people are going to think they're respon

[U2] Re: Trouble writing to a file over NFA

2006-02-27 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 2/27/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm having trouble writing to a file opened with NFA. The file has an > update trigger, and I get: > > Unable to open any log files. Well, it's not the trigger. I switched to the backup server, and saw the same result. Then I removed the trig

RE: [U2] [UD] "Escaping" a Quote

2006-02-27 Thread Kevin King
In a SELECT literal? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:02 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] "Escaping" a Quote If my memory serves me I believe you can do somethi

RE: [U2] - Java - AJAX

2006-02-27 Thread Tony Gravagno
I share Glen's frustration with the increasing dependency on browsers and increasing complexity being built into them. I'll add a decreasing appreciation for the effort required to support this technology. This results in many people expecting that just because everyone has a browser on their des

RE: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - RE: [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread Richard Taylor
While I could hope for a better solution, what you suggest is not realistic for some of us who work in large companies with many locations. Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS 250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vert

Re: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - RE: [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread Jerry Banker
There is another option. Don't use auto-response messages. After all if the people in your office don't know you're gone then you've got to start interfacing more with the people you work with. If they don't notice when you're gone then they probably don't notice when you're there. - Origi

[U2] Changes to mail list configurations

2006-02-27 Thread Larry Hiscock
We have made some changes to the mailing list configuration files in an attempt to reduce some of the problems we have been experiencing these past few days. There have been two primary problems (one of which has resulted in old mail getting reposted to the list several days after it was originall

Re: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread Louie Bergsagel
This happened with another email list I was on, where all current and former subscribers to the University of Washington's World Dance list were getting every email that was sent to the list server. And when they sent "TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST!!!" email to the list server, that also went to every cur

Re: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread Dianne Ackerman
Yes, it is pretty annoying, isn't it? -Dianne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else receiving duplicate emails from this weekend? I have received this same email 3 times since Saturday. Vance Alspach J & L Industrial Supply --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u

RE: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread leslie chamberlin
Yes and it is driving me crazy. It's like watching TV the week after sweeps week! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [U2] Universe: Version and serial number

2006-02-27 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
How do I get version and serial number from a UniVerse AIX installation? I am drawing a blank here. At the TCL prompt, enter CONFIG... that will give you the serial number. Then do a ".L RELLEVEL" at the TCL. This will give you version/release number as well as flavor information. --- u2-

RE: [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread Larry Hiscock
Hi Brian, I've already unsubscribed him from the lists on Saturday evening (my time), so we shouldn't be seeing any more of these. --Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:58 AM To: u2-users@l

Re: [U2] Universe: Version and serial number

2006-02-27 Thread Clifton Oliver
Will give you the license (serial) number. To get the version, at TCL .l RELLEVEL Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: CONFIG ALL from TCL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/02/2006 18:10:30: How do I get version and serial number from a UniVerse AIX installation? I am drawing a blank here. -

RE: [U2] dup emails rec'd

2006-02-27 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Not only are they duplicate, but one of the dup emails from me had a *different subject* text than when I originally sent the message!!?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:12 To: u2-users@list

Re: [U2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread vance . alspach
Is anybody else receiving duplicate emails from this weekend? I have received this same email 3 times since Saturday. Vance Alspach J & L Industrial Supply "Nick Cipollina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/25/2006 07:51 AM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org T

Re: [U2] Universe: Version and serial number

2006-02-27 Thread asvin . dattani
CONFIG ALL from TCL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/02/2006 18:10:30: > How do I get version and serial number from a UniVerse AIX installation? I > am drawing a blank here. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.o

[U2] Universe: Version and serial number

2006-02-27 Thread Martin Scholl
How do I get version and serial number from a UniVerse AIX installation? I am drawing a blank here. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] [UD] "Escaping" a Quote

2006-02-27 Thread Dana Baron
You can use single quotes in the SELECT statement. Example: SELECT FILE.NAME WITH @ID EQ '"1234"' will select the record with an id equal 1234 in quotes. (I tried it and it worked) Dana Baron System Manager Smugglers' Notch Resort -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

Re: [U2] [UD] "Escaping" a Quote

2006-02-27 Thread karlp
If my memory serves me I believe you can do something like this: EQU QT = char(39) EQU DQT = char(34) then do: VAR2 = \DQT:QT:VAR1:QT:DQT\ At least something similar. Karl > Unidata 6.1: Is there a way to "escape a character" in a SELECT > literal? Though I can't see it in the documentatio

RE: [U2] - Java - AJAX

2006-02-27 Thread Glen Batchelor
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:57 AM > To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' > Subject: RE: [U2] - Java - AJAX > > I expect that they will post it in the near term at www.jav

[U2] mvCMS - mvListserver

2006-02-27 Thread Charles Barouch
Louie, Absolutely! -- Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ETL/Migration/Integration (718) 762-3884x1 Louie Bergsagel wrote: | You'd think something so simple would be part of any list server. | Maybe we need to write an mvListserver... --- u2-users mailin

[U2] [UD] "Escaping" a Quote

2006-02-27 Thread Kevin King
Unidata 6.1: Is there a way to "escape a character" in a SELECT literal? Though I can't see it in the documentation, I know you can quote with the " or \ characters, but what if the literal contains both " and \ characters? What then? Or what if the value contains a "^" or "[" or "?" that aren't

[U2] Trouble writing to a file w/ trigger over NFA

2006-02-27 Thread Wendy Smoak
I'm having trouble writing to a file opened with NFA. The file has an update trigger, and I get: WRITING TO RECORD TEST IN AS1.PERSON Unable to open any log files. Unable to open any log files. ERROR WRITING TO TEST IN AS1.PERSON Unable to open any log files. Unable to open any log files. Unable

[U2] Expressions of Interest - Troy MI

2006-02-27 Thread Ross Ferris
G'day, Just thought I would go on a "fishing trip" to see if there are any entrepreneurial individuals, or companies that may be interested in working on an "opportunity" in this region. Travel will be involved with remote sites in Texas, Georgia, Ohio & Arizona - we have a solution that we can p

RE: [U2] - Java - AJAX

2006-02-27 Thread Brutzman, Bill
I expect that they will post it in the near term at www.javasig.com. Ben demo'd AJAX techniques by coding from scratch with the IntelliJ IDE on a Mac notebook, in front of the ~250 attendees there, an AJAX zip code lookup thing. He talked about synchronous vs asynchronous client-host communicatio

RE: [U2] RE:Merging Unique

2006-02-27 Thread George Gallen
What the advantage of the MERGE.LIST is it will sort/merge ANYTHING in the lists, whereas SELECT will only lists that are @ID's. So, you could say: SELECT SOMEFILE SAVING UNIQUE EMAILS TO 1 SELECT SOMEOTHERFILE SAVING UNIQUE EMAILS TO 2 MERGE.LIST 1 UNION 2 SAVE.LIST BIGEMAILLIST And it would b

RE: [U2] RE:Merging Unique

2006-02-27 Thread Andy Baum
Greg, MERGE.LIST removes all duplicates and sorts the keys, it's a feature of how it is implemented. Cheers, Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Coelho, Gregory Sent: 26 February 2006 00:55 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] R

RE: [U2] RE:Merging Unique

2006-02-27 Thread Andy Baum
P.S. We actually use this as a quick way of removing duplicates from a list, i.e. MERGE.LIST 0 UNION 0, as it's very quick. Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Coelho, Gregory Sent: 26 February 2006 00:55 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Su

RE: [U2] Steve Cashman

2006-02-27 Thread Brian Leach
Larry, Thanks. Steve is in hospital - I'm trying to get hold of his assistant to get this sorted. Brian > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Hiscock > Sent: 25 February 2006 20:25 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: R