Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-08 Thread Jacques G.
If it is at its default of ON, you save a command stack every time you log out. These are saved with a name of S.username.userno. The theory is that when you log back in, the system can reload your stack and you carry on as Isn't there a limit that can be set in Universe as to how much of a

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-08 Thread Martin Phillips
Hi Jaques, Isn't there a limit that can be set in Universe as to how much of a stack history is kept ? I just don't see people doing .L 200 to re-run a command they did 5 years ago. The stack is 99 commands (by default, it can be changed). The problem here is not that it is saving a

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-07 Thread Dianne Ackerman
I once wrote a wraparound to the savelist commands which datestamps the lists on creation and use. Also allows the user to flag a savelist as one that should not be overwritten or deleted. A purge program allows them to purge out savelists that are no longer necessary or haven't been

[U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Bill Pizer
I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer needed but I have been stopped by my VP. She wants justification for the process. I don't have the knowledge to be able to give her what she

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread u2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer needed but I have been stopped by my VP. She wants justification for the process. I don't have the knowledge to be

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread u2
Of Bill Pizer Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:33 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
only keep 15 days of these types of data around on our production machine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Pizer Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:33 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Justification for removal

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Pingilley, Ron
: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:33 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer needed but I have been stopped

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin King
I'm torn on the issue. On one hand I completely agree with Wol (though I need to look up the word ephemeral just to be sure). Saved lists should be created each time they're needed - MOST of the time. There are other perfectly valid reasons why one program might create a list for another program

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Butera
On Monday 06 February 2006 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer needed but I have been stopped by my VP. She wants

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Martin Phillips
SAVEDLISTS is a directory file. Searching a directory requires (on average) that you examine half the items in the directory before you find the one you want. Given a large directory, this can be very slow. (I once saw an example of a SAVEDLISTS directory with 275000 items in it!!) If this is

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Barry Brevik
I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, One must be wary, as some VARs use SAVEDLISTS for storing permanent data. For example, one of Epicor's applications saves an index of all user-created report definitions in SAVEDLISTS. If you were to delete this file (which I have done),

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread karlp
quote who=Jeffrey Butera On Monday 06 February 2006 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer needed but I have been stopped

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Jerry Banker
in the future you can then copy it back or use a qselect. - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists On Monday 06 February 2006

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Maresh, Mel
I personally purge my saved-lists periodically and do not rely on saved-lists for permanent storage. For permanent storage I've created a program that saves the records from a select to a hashed file as one item with the file, date time saved as well as a comment as to the reason that I'm

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Jerry Banker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists SAVEDLISTS is a directory file. Searching a directory requires (on average) that you examine half the items in the directory before you find the one

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Raymond DeGennaro II
- Original Message - From: Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists ... If this is UniVerse, also check that the STACKWRITE record in your VOC says X OFF

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Martin Phillips
Hi Raymond, If this is UniVerse, also check that the STACKWRITE record in your VOC says X OFF Anybody know the UniData equivalent to this? I've been digging around and can't find anything. The problem doesn't occur on Unidata which adopts a far more sane approach to saving command

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Raymond DeGennaro II
At 20:29 + 2006/02/06, Martin Phillips wrote: The problem doesn't occur on Unidata which adopts a far more sane approach to saving command stacks. True, but unfortunately, it's not perfect. We've had troubles at a client site where the command stack gets so full, the user core dumps as

RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Horn, John
On Behalf Of Bill Pizer I wrote a small routine that will go through Savedlists, HOLD files, ST.PPROCES records, etc. and selectively delete the records that are no longer needed but I have been stopped by my VP. She wants justification for the process. I don't have the knowledge

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Johnson
: RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists Try Savedlists do not contain data. They are collections of record keys selected for processing as a group (reports, postings, etc.), and deleting them does not change or delete the actual data. The records pointed to by the keys still exist

Re: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists

2006-02-06 Thread Louie Bergsagel
] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [U2] Justification for removal of savedlists Try Savedlists do not contain data. They are collections of record keys selected for processing as a group (reports, postings, etc.), and deleting them does