Most people use JAAS/JDBC reals built into app servers like Resin,
Tomcat, etc.
It's done for you... and bug free.
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/realm-howto.html
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James Woodward wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to figure out if there is an elegant solution to what I want
to do.
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-ajax4/index.html?ca=dgr-lnxw07GWT4Ajax
What do people think relative to Struts 2's built in Ajax?
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6. HTML tag libraries
7. Other (please explain)
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This is today. I'll be there, you can say hi.
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This is like wizard of Oz. Go Away. But we cam to get a hart, a
brain, courage No one here now
Why would anyone care if struts is not being marketed or need others
to approve of you decision to use something else?
If you find Spring better, good for you. If you find JSF better, good
for
Call me silly, but I use my brain to figure out what to use.
I think Struts-devs said they are writing something new, once the new
thing is established... then someone can say that in relation to the new
release, 1.3.1 is an older release, and that's all.
It's good to separate MVC, mostly
Well, except that the new thing is not new. It's just Webwork, which
is a competing framework, that has been around for years.
Struts Action 2 is just a relabeling of Webwork. Some package names
and so on change, but it's just webwork.
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking
the reviews on o/s tibet are great.
I can't figure out how to download it?
Can someone help a noob download?
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So... how do you do it again?
/server irc.darkmyst.org ?
or ... (I tried in X-Chat)
tia,
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Larry Meadors wrote:
Join us on irc.darkmyst.org @ #funkycodemonkey, Dakota. Vent your
frustrations there. It's fun. ;-)
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#1. Most DB's let you connect to another DB, even to another vendor to
do a join. That be the simplest.
#2. What ever you are doing you need to do in the DAO layer only ( and I
do not see how transcations are helping you on a select).
So I suggest you document a unit test of what you want the
We should on wiki have mug shots of the Struts devs!!!
You think?
I have meat in person most of them, but ... other might want to see.
So if someone want to start a gallery on wiki (or a photo site) if the like.
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ps: not a dev, but here is one mug shot of me http://struts.1up.com
Ted Husted
Congrats, devs!
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The Struts team is pleased to announce the release of Struts Shale 1.0.2 Alpha.
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I use Hessian protocol.
Also, consider OSGi (Eclipse) for breaking up a war into modules.
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Leon Rosenberg wrote:
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Leon Rosenberg wrote:
But I think that CORBA can compete very well here!
Or do you have other impressions?
Nope, just
I have been on this list since '00 and this is the fastest they have
been releasing.
Thanks for the fast pace devs. (I do not mean to be sarcastic, I do
think the pace is quite fast).
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Why did Struts development stagnate?
Let me make it simple for all you noobs:
Resin!
(It does PHP just like JSP, Groovy, 5x faster, easy reloader, used by
most seniors on this list )
and most popular of the list:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/04/10/java_servlet_engines.html
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Martin Gainty wrote:
By far the most
http://sourceforge.net/projects/infonoia
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Hii,
Are there any Content management systems (CMS) which can be easily
integrated into Struts based systems ?
Presently trying to get things working with lenya.
-Shanky
http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards4.php
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A similar question would be:
What if one developed in Ajax, and the back end tech stack did not matter.
What Ajax framework would you use would matter.
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Michael Jouravlev wrote:
What if you developed components in good old JSP, and used whatever
action framework you like,
Did you want to send an email to him or did you want to post in Jasper
Reports forms to see if someone can help you.
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Nandakishore Nekkanti wrote:
HI Teodor Danciu
I am facing a problem while using Jasper Reports.
I am using JRxlsExporter to export to Excel fromat.I want to export the
So I got to talk to a few start ups in SV. Here is my guess of market
share of new projects in '07. If you disagree, I will give you a refund.
1.C# is big ( Maverick.net I hope. I am surprised how many companies
are converting this quick) 35%
2.Ajax is big (client side, not emitted from
Which AJAX framework do you want to use?
(and then do you need Struts)
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Ashish Kulkarni wrote:
1 What is the best soluction to have struts and AJAX
work together?
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or WW2?
Which does services better?
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Ahh... that's what code defensively means. :-)
Some threads are just more fun.
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
What's wrong with the implementation?
And, if it took my replacement a week to figure that out, I would hope
he'd have a replacement shortly thereafter :)
Frank
Wow.
Why not
method(args, this);
so you know the calling object.
or better version.
register(this);
method(arg);
Plenty of OO designs.
Or just don't make it public, there are 3 modifier choices left other
then public, including package/friend.
I would just expose an
Are you using r/o request beans or session r/w beans?
How many users at a time? What is the mix? How many bytes per
columns/rows? (ex: displaytag)
Also, what is your DAO (data) caching plans? This in my designs is
majority of RAM usage.
I built one site to support 10,000 concurent users,
For those that are not tired of framework wars:
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=38601
I think Shale can be used w/ different view layer, ex: Wicket. I also
think Shale WAR can be done in Groovy (it makes class files). That would
be a good combo for the old browser tech.
tia,
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Any books, online articles, etc. of what to use and how to structure the
code? Basically I want to make sure I am using it the right way as the
best approach has probably changed since I last used it.
http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t60786.html
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by links it seems.
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wicket? *yuck*
-David, full of personal opinions and obviously not a Japanese Wicket promoter
like that blog sampled
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So you know how I like to spin RiA, nothing to do w/ Struts?
here is some Swing thread:
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=38473
;-P
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ps otoh: Anyone building a portal should consider Drupal, it can now run
on Resin.
otoh, back to the future... pointcast.com!
My current version 1.5x is pull.
Version 2.0 that is in alpha and not released will be push (and allow
for offline reading, like on a laptop on plane, plus a few more neat
features).
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souravm wrote:
Raghu/Frank,
You are very right in saying
One way to do is do CoR, which is optional for 1.x, built into 1.3+.
CoR mandates a signature, so if you do all the work there, you can call
it from anywhere, as all newer build from Struts come w/ CoR jars.
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Any thoughts?
http://java.sys-con.com/read/165115.htm
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In the wiki, I think there's a rick reuman Struts and iBatis tutorial
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Would someone please recommend a current tutorial that may include iBATIS
integration?
tia,
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Is 1.x usage so different from 2.0 ? Does it make sense to start from
1.x and then move to 2.0 features or it is better to start from 2.0
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There is no concreate Struts 2.0 afaik! So you can't use it to build.
There's hardly a 1.3 you can download yet to even try.
Lots of changes are yet to happen to Ti even at high level. No Api has
been set. And no date set for it. Look how long 1.3 has been baking.
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Michael Jouravlev
Opps.
We used iBatis 2.0 on a project 2 years ago, 1up.com.
The main difference is that it does not need to map as much, looked
similar to me, minor things. So 2.x all the way.
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Michael Jouravlev wrote:
Er... Actually, I was asking about IBatis 1.x vs. IBatis 2.x. Thanks
for giving me
I think this would help you:
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/SnapshotGuide11
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Preston CRAWFORD wrote:
I think that's part of the confusion, though.
Struts = Legacy Struts 1.2.x - Action based architecture
Struts Shale = Framework that leans on JSF and has a compatability
layer written so it
It's happened before: Appache HTTP server.
Or Apache Commons?
Just Appache means the server... or ASF?
Realy, it's no big deal. A rose by any other name!
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Preston CRAWFORD wrote:
Or back to my example. Apache Jakarta Struts Shale.
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
what does this AJAX module offer that can't be
accomplished outside Shale with little difficulty? I ask because, AJAX
being nothing but normal HTTP requests, is inherently supported by any
web framework in existence today. Oh, don't get me wrong, there are
some
But Ajax is only one example of Remoting and RiA. If Shale lets me do
JDNC remoting (and 6 others) as well, that's a plus and less
refactoring. Yes, if everything is COR, one is ahead of the game (and
that is my case at the moment, everything is COR on back end).
ot:
Sorry to be a broken record but Shale + DWR might be a good combo to
consider since Shale has an Ajax module.
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
From the DWR web site:
http://getahead.ltd.uk/dwr/server/struts
Just reading through it quickly, that's just about what I would have
suggested too
If JSF spec gets refactored in some future to simplify ( just like EJB3,
maybe we need to wait for JSF v3, and like EJB likely things will get
worse before they get better) everyone wins. CoR is great, it's KISS,
and imo better than Spring factories for configuration.
I now think *Shale is most
in CoR so it could be ported to Shale and others :-) ?
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Ted Husted wrote:
and a iBATIS JPetShop port would be next. Film at 11. :)
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Rick ...realy consider Rails crowd input. Please spend 2 hours on
Groovy, as per example on Resin.
I am going to find a way for CoR create Groovy classes.
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Rick Reumann wrote:
aimed to simplify the developers life requiring no
configuration,
What?? No configuration? You mean you
Impresive!
Presumably it could work w/ Shale Ajax module.
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
I am happy to announce the availability of AjaxChat at the Struts Apps
project on SourceForge.
AjaxChat is, as I'm sure you've guessed, a Struts-based chat application
utilizing AJAX techniques. I wrote
http://tomcat.apache.org/faq/memory.html#adjust
Eric Plante wrote:
I'm on windows XP and the only catalina files that might serve for
configuration are Catalina.properties and catalina.policy
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Has anyone used Rico or Dojo or DWR and or Frank's thing made it to
production? comments? Urls?
Rico demo looks cool.
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netsql wrote:
I re-read it.
This looks great:
http://dojotoolkit.org/archive/dojo-2005-11-07/demos/widget/
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(I used to make on sf.net many years ago a zip of a compleate Struts,
jstl, w/ tomcat, etc.)
It be nice to make a zip of a Struts 1.3 start.zip that includes a super
simple master/detail(displaytag) and standard development enviroment.
It would include things that we normaly and regulary use
I re-read it.
This looks great:
http://dojotoolkit.org/archive/dojo-2005-11-07/demos/widget/
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Wendy Smoak wrote:
This thread might help:
http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-Best-AJAX-framework-t511421.html
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It likely already has groups and content you are already using but aggregated
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And how I get IE on Fedora ;-)
One thing about FireFox... current version 1-1.5 is staticaly linked and not
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Rick, consider trying Faclets (from Java.net) w/ Struts Ti (from Dev
List) combo; that may be more powerfull and more teachable.
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Rick Reumann wrote:
David Haynes wrote the following on 8/22/2005 4:19 PM:
I'm just fumbling my way through like most others...
Trust me you don't want me
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Would starting up a separate shale mailing list be a bad idea?
Defintely +1 for this idea.
And now, for a comercial:
I'd mirror it or start it in 2 minutes RiA, ex, click
I use https://simple-log.dev.java.net
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So 1.3 is NOT using the standalone tiles but the old tiles?
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Craig McClanahan wrote:
Be warned, however, that a couple of changes in the Struts 1.3 version
of Tiles have not yet been ported over ... I hope to do that this
weekend.
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
... these are applications that don't
necessarily flow from page to page, instead the user can navigate them
at will, more or less. Events that occur on the client-side don't
automatically have to result in a whole new page being rendered (and
this DOES NOT require
I guess some of this is ot, but you said any comments.
In my shop lead enginers are most productive coders ( I measure LC via
CVS stats) and also get to... lead the project. (I have no project
managers, who'd respect them?).
This is how I size my projects. Most similar is Scrum (minus scrum
W/ Tomcat 5 (Servlet 2.4) you should use latest JSTL and regualr Struts tags.
You would only use Struts-el tags w/ Servlet 2.3.
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Yan Hu wrote:
But java is perhaps not suitable for fat client - type apps while it
is a great language for the server side.
Dave Newton wrote:
How is it not suitable for fat clients?
Yan Hu wrote:
How many huge apps are written in Java Swing and how many are in C++,C
or even
Yeah, them ANN people.
;-)
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I think Swing is easy if you MVC. For example don't do inner classes and
listners to this. Just separate out your action from the relizer.
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
No argument here... Swing is a pain in the arse under the best of
conditions.
Frank
Michael Jouravlev wrote:
Why would you want to obtusify server side?
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
See, now it gets interesting because debate starts :)
I would say that key for any new framework is that it has to default
to client side rendering of ui. DHTML/Ajax ... or others ;-)
And then as option be able to do server side generated UI.
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
what does it really mean for them to be
rendered client-side and where does DHTML/Ajax fit in?
DHTML renders client side(w Ajax RCP). Flex/Lazlo. Swing. XUL. X-Forms?
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it maps to html form.
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Carl Smith wrote:
Struts privide strong C (of MVC) components, tyical of which are ActionServlet,
Actions and RequestProcessors, but I am wondering which part is the M (of MVC).
Thanks.
__
Do You
Joe Germuska wrote:
Struts does not provide any part of the M (Model).
oh yeah, that's right.
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news to some:
http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4981
I think it was said us Java dudes should talk less and produce apps
more in this thread, which is what I said +1 too. It's hard to debate
PHP vs Java on the server, which is better, which is bigger... bla,
Hernandez, Mariano wrote:
we use EJBs, although I and a colleague
have tried to persuade our architech to use ANYTHING other than EJBs.
Consider having a email Dear Achitect, thanks for meeting w/ us, we
brought you some good reasons not to use EJB; we understand you do want
to use them.
Mark Benussi wrote:
I have never done any PHP so I can't comment, but agree with the previous
comments in so far as Struts/Java/Servlets is for large applications. I
would not build a suite of actions and database pooling for my old mans
plane photos web site.
You may be just repeating the
Mark Benussi wrote:
Is it
marketing hype to state that Struts/Java/Servlets is for large
applications and I would not build a suite of actions and database
pooling for my old mans plane photos web site
Why would you say that?
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John Henry Xu wrote:
You are right. I worked on Java and hope Java success. That is the reason
my links are java-based. I just want see more sites written in Java. That
is why I think in Java world, we need more doers than talkers.
If more java programmers code complex sites, java could compete
I used iBatis 2 w/ 7000 concurent users and subsecond response time
(each users requested data from a page that had many tiles, 1up.com)
It's much faster than others becuase of a simple row based cache.
I am one of few SQL instructors certified to teach PT, I would argue
it's by far the most
Leon Rosenberg wrote:
I think the sentence clustering will help you scaling is an urban myth :-)
Leon
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John Public wrote:
After just finishing my JSF class, I can confidently
confirm that JSF will eventually lead to Struts
becoming OBSOLETE.
:-) Enhydra and Torque would say that too circa 2001.
Put up a site and lets see it.
Let's all get
behind JSF before MS takes over the web.
Nothing
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
It has not been unusual to estimate three months
for something, and that's fairly realistic to do it right, and the
business says nope, 1.5 months is when we need it.
I need you to paint the house, but I only have budget to wash my hair?
That is no respect and a bit
Stéphane Zuckerman wrote:
Larry Meadors a écrit :
I agree with previous comments saying that Hibernate is useful
if your project is quite large. Otherwise, the time taken to set it up
would be better used to do something else. It does add some complexity
when thinking through a new project,
Ted Husted wrote:
People can make any system work, but they have to *want* to make it
work.
That is deep! And very true.
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Daniel Henrique Ferreira e Silva wrote:
Hi BHansard,
Do you really have to stick to Java for a CMS?
If, and only if, java is not mandatory for your project, i'd go for
Zope + Plone.
Or PHP like drupal, tiki-wiki, etc.
Html works best on p-langs imo. (which is why I wrote a webstart)
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Glen Mazza wrote:
If you don't get a good answer here I would check \
SUn's mail mail list or jakrta commons (email) jar.
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Glen
Brian McGovern wrote:
Sorry for the off topic, but hopefully someone here has done this
before. Im using a tomcat smtp resource
I used JDBC realms for security.
I tend to avoid EJB, even v 3 (it does not support collection) but EJB 3
is not bad (unlike 2.1.. it is bad).
You can run 500 concurnet users on an old laptop, I my tests I get over
$2K per CPU on older servers.
What stress testing tool do you plan to use?
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