Re: [users] Re: Fonts

2007-09-01 Thread Joe Grech
Thanks Adrian wonderful site this. Took me hours to browse. From: Adrian Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: users@openoffice.org To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] Re: Fonts Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:05:06 +1000 Hi Victor I am usually pretty good at following instructions, but the

Re: [users] new to open office

2007-09-01 Thread OOo Mac User
Hi, If you do need to be able to open the new MS Office 2007 files NeoOffice (based on OpenOffice) will open them www.neooffice.org. This is for macintosh only. I would recommend trying both OpenOffice and NeoOffice on one of your macs to see which is more appropriate for your use.

[users] Page numbering

2007-09-01 Thread Joe Marks
In a Footer when I type page', press Enter, click InsertFieldsPage Numbers. I get Page Numbers. How do I change the setting so I get a number such as 1 instead of the name of what is there.

[users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread John Locke
I hope I have sent this to the correct address, I've already sent it to the wrong address once! I'm a bit overwhelmed with the number of lists supporting OpenOffice.Org ,my apologies if I messed up. I recently installed OpenOffice.Org on my PC (Windows XP) and after installation had a suite

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:25:25 -0400 John Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After poking around, I did find that you can launch Calc, Impress etc from the File New dialog in Writer however that seems kinda klugy to always need to run Writer first. That's how it's done. -- MELVILLE THEATRE

Re: [users] Page numbering

2007-09-01 Thread Dan Lewis
On Saturday September 1 2007 09:10 am, Joe Marks wrote: In a Footer when I type page', press Enter, click InsertFields Page Numbers. I get Page Numbers. How do I change the setting so I get a number such as 1 instead of the name of what is there. Check View Field names. You

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread Stan Goodman
** Reply to message from Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:30:08 -0600 On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:25:25 -0400 John Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After poking around, I did find that you can launch Calc, Impress etc from the File New dialog in Writer however that seems

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:12:19 +0300 Stan Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And sure enough, in SuSE Linux, clicking on the OOo desktop icon brings up a menu through which one chooses the behavior (Write, Calc, etc.) desired at the moment. Evidently those who ported the suite to various OSes

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread linuxmaillists
On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:12:19 pm Stan Goodman wrote: ** Reply to message from Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:30:08 -0600 On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:25:25 -0400 John Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After poking around, I did find that you can launch Calc,

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread Stan Goodman
** Reply to message from Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:31:52 -0600 On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:12:19 +0300 Stan Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And sure enough, in SuSE Linux, clicking on the OOo desktop icon brings up a menu through which one chooses the behavior (Write,

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:06:55 +0300 Stan Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can a Unix-descended OS not have a command line? Beats me. The question is sincere; where I am, Macs are very thin on the ground, and I have never seen one. You and me both. It's my understanding that Apple tries

Re: [users] Mac Program Icons?

2007-09-01 Thread linuxmaillists
On Saturday 01 September 2007 01:10:57 pm Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:06:55 +0300 Stan Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can a Unix-descended OS not have a command line? MAC OS X does have a command line. The question is sincere; where I am, Macs are very thin on the

[users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
hi, I need some help figuring out how to make OOo handle a massive 6 MB .xls file better. Here is the background: As some of you might remember, I have been volunteering as a level one (meaning low level) tech support for a public middle school in San Francisco. I have been trying to move the

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Joe Conner
It sounds to me as if it is past time that a database replaced that Excel spreadsheet.!! :-) Christian Einfeldt wrote: hi, I need some help figuring out how to make OOo handle a massive 6 MB .xls file better. Here is the background: As some of you might remember, I have been volunteering as

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Alan Frayer
Christian, I echo the sentiments of other users in saying the problem lies in the misuse of technology. Spreadsheets are not meant for record-keeping. They are meant for complex (and not-so-complex) calculations (hence the name Calc). The fact that the row/column layout is easily

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread James Knott
Christian Einfeldt wrote: But the teachers will probably not accept a box that takes even 110 seconds to load this spreadsheet, and they will get a negative impression of FOSS, which might actually set us back, rather than move us forward. How long does it take to load it in Excel? Is that

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Charlie Seaman
Christian Einfeldt wrote: hi, I need some help figuring out how to make OOo handle a massive 6 MB .xls file better. Here is the background: As some of you might remember, I have been volunteering as a level one (meaning low level) tech support for a public middle school in San Francisco. I

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
I wouldn't be surprised if Excel on the same machine (or a comparable machine) opens the same document in less than 5 seconds. I have also tried to open big Excel files with OpenOffice. About 10-100 times longer isn't unusual, compared to Excel. The slowness is one of the few things I really hate

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Mark Knecht
Christian Einfeldt wrote: SNIP I now have a vexing problem that is posing a rather serious obstacle to that migration. The problem is a massive .xls spreadsheet that the school uses to track the students' behavioral development, meaning do they do their homework, do they arrive to

[users] Data Loss

2007-09-01 Thread JPL
I've been using OOO for a couple of years now. Version 2.2 running on XP. In the last year or so I've lost two spreadsheet files. My computer crashes (locks up). No action. I've got a spreadsheet open. I have to shut the computer off at the power strip. When I reboot, I get a restore

Re: [users] Data Loss

2007-09-01 Thread S Perry
Your problem seems to be memory related. How much memory do you have? Anything less than 256MB may give you a less than satisfactory experience. To help you in the future, go to Tools Options Load/Save General Save AutoRecovery information every X minutes. I set mine for 1 minute. That

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread web kracked
As one who have been working with computers since there were no pc's I have see many things. The use of a spreadsheet for what the school is doing is not uncommon. It is easier to create the storage, but not the reporting. By biggest problem is the size of the file. Even the best of machines

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
Thanks everyone for your replies. Sorry for the lag in responding.. On 9/1/07, Joe Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds to me as if it is past time that a database replaced that Excel spreadsheet.!! :-) Okay, but that is a systemic change that I am not going to be able to implement in

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
hi On 9/1/07, Alan Frayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian, I echo the sentiments of other users in saying the problem lies in the misuse of technology. I am all in favor of switching the school to OOo Base, but that is probably not a solution that I will be able to implement in 72

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
hi On 9/1/07, Johnny Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if Excel on the same machine (or a comparable machine) opens the same document in less than 5 seconds. I believe you are current in this surmise. I have not paid attention per se to anyone opening the file,

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
hi On 9/1/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a chance that the slowness is a conversion from Excel to OO scalc format each time the document is opened? This is worth testing, although it still poses a problem: All the educators need to use the same file format (now we see

Re: [users] Data Loss

2007-09-01 Thread JPL
I've got 736 MB of RAM. I did have the always create backup copy checked. Where is that backup stored? Maybe that's something I haven't figured out? I did have the recovery option checked too. The problem is, even though it normally works fine, the two times I mentioned, even after the

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
hi I find it easier to do newsletters with Pagemaker, Linux Format Magazine for August has done an entire feature in their very demanding, very slick glossy mag using scribus. I recommend that you download the pdf and read the article. You might be pleased!

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Howard Coles Jr.
On Saturday 01 September 2007 09:07:43 pm Christian Einfeldt wrote: Thanks everyone for your replies. Sorry for the lag in responding.. On 9/1/07, Joe Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds to me as if it is past time that a database replaced that Excel spreadsheet.!! :-) Okay, but

Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
On 9/1/07, Howard Coles Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, have you tried saving this current spreadsheet as a text based, csv file? And then, importing the csv into OOo? Would this break the formulas, etc? I have not tried this, because there are multiple tabs, and it is my understandinng

[users] Re: help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread NoOp
On 09/01/2007 07:27 PM, Christian Einfeldt wrote: hi I find it easier to do newsletters with Pagemaker, Please use attributes when replying to posts. At first glance I thought that *you* were saying that you find it easier to do newsletters with Pagemaker. [snip] If anyone need to

[users] Invite from Christopher Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

2007-09-01 Thread Christopher Harris
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Re: [users] Re: help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS

2007-09-01 Thread Christian Einfeldt
hi On 9/1/07, NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also suggest that you have a look at StarOffice. OOo is basically the free version of SO, and Sun have added macro templates that assist in making a MS to SO transition. It's free to educational institutions, staff, students, etc., and I'm