[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-20 19:48:46, schrieb Twayne: IMO it's pretty much a waste of time and ether to be bothering with PGP or any such cert-based methods in a newsgroup. And the few others I send out per day over 150 messages mostly going to developers lists and they may be sensibel sourcecodes

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-21 11:47:02, schrieb Twayne: This one has no attachment here, is not blank and is entirely readable. No problems with it. OE6 IE7 on XP Pro SP2, read in Text Mode. I have inline presentation turned on; always has been. You have correctly ^^

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/22 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: read posts AND e-mails as 7-bit text only; it's called common sense. Er, common sense would be not using an email client that runs 'payloads' in email messages. I would love to hear of a real-world scenario where an automatic email macro would be

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-23 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org
Er, common sense would be not using an email client that runs 'payloads' in email messages. I would love to hear of a real-world scenario where an automatic email macro would be used for non-malicious purposes. Many years ago, the IT department where I worked used to use this feature to roll

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-23 Thread NoOp
On 05/23/2008 02:42 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/23 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We do need to make allowances on an international mailing list, abusing people for not understanding something they have probably not come across before doesn't help. You have to remember some people on the

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/23 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that your myopic views (and this thread) are more appropriate on [EMAIL PROTECTED] True, but the subject was raised here so here I replied. I will not encourage further list erosion by posting new material, but I will counter these points. Before I

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-22 Thread Twayne
Twayne wrote: No, not a fact. There is nothing going on enroute.OE and others like it, due to the PGP improper signature use, presents the posts as blank posts with a file attachment. OE CAN be tweaked to not do that, but then you give up some security, which I do not choose to do,

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-22 Thread Jim Allan
Twayne wrote: Twayne wrote: No, not a fact. There is nothing going on enroute.OE and others like it, due to the PGP improper signature use, presents the posts as blank posts with a file attachment. OE CAN be tweaked to not do that, but then you give up some security, which I do not

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/22 Twayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why are you using OE if you are so concerned about security? That seems to me to be a very ignorant thing to do. Because it IS secure, is flexible and can run rings around any other mail client ..snip [addressed below].. I can honestly say that OE has

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Adams
On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:29:09 -0400 Jerry Clancy wrote: Jerry (Feldman) and Rodney, Interestingly, your message (Jerry) also came in as an attachment. And thanks for the explanation. I was remiss in not looking at the headers myself. As for OE being broke, to quote Insp. Renaud, it's just

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:48:46 -0400 Twayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Twayne, IMO it's pretty much a waste of time and ether to be bothering with PGP or any such cert-based methods in a newsgroup. And the few This isn't usenet, nor is this a newsgroup. It's a mailing list. Gmane

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Twayne
This one has no attachment here, is not blank and is entirely readable. No problems with it. OE6 IE7 on XP Pro SP2, read in Text Mode. I have inline presentation turned on; always has been. You have correctly managed the e-mail. This is in contrast to your other posts that show up here

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-20 19:48:46, schrieb Twayne: empty post/e-mail unless there is a compelling reason to do so. And there isn't, here. The first time someone gets sucked in by a poser who used, say, PGP, to make it look like just another blank post with an attachment from her and it actually

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread NoOp
On 05/20/2008 10:40 AM, Rodney D. Myers wrote: On May 20, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jerry Clancy wrote: Would somebody please tell me why virtually every post from her has an empty message with an attachment? I don't open attachments unless necessary. Jerry maybe 2 reasons 1. you're using

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Rodney Myers
On May 21, 2008, at 10:49 AM, NoOp wrote: On 05/20/2008 10:40 AM, Rodney D. Myers wrote: On May 20, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jerry Clancy wrote: Would somebody please tell me why virtually every post from her has an empty message with an attachment? I don't open attachments unless necessary.

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:47:02 -0400 Twayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one has no attachment here, is not blank and is entirely readable. No problems with it. OE6 IE7 on XP Pro SP2, read in Text Mode. I have inline presentation turned on; always has been. You have correctly managed

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Allan
Twayne wrote: No, not a fact. There is nothing going on enroute.OE and others like it, due to the PGP improper signature use, presents the posts as blank posts with a file attachment. OE CAN be tweaked to not do that, but then you give up some security, which I do not choose to do, and

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-20 Thread Jerry Clancy
I got a copy of a post I was copied on from Rodney Meyers that indicated that it's apparently happening because I'm using OE as a newsreader or reading gmane. It turns out I'm doing both. But why would different newsreaders treat the message that differently? Is it due to inline attachments or

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-20 Thread Jim Allan
Jerry Clancy wrote: Would somebody please tell me why virtually every post from her has an empty message with an attachment? I don't open attachments unless necessary. I don’t recall ever seeing a post from Michelle with an attachment or inside an attachment. Jim Allan

Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-20 Thread Joseph
Jim Allan wrote: Jerry Clancy wrote: Would somebody please tell me why virtually every post from her has an empty message with an attachment? I don't open attachments unless necessary. Jim Allan wrote I don’t recall ever seeing a post from Michelle with an attachment or inside an

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-20 Thread Jerry Clancy
Jerry (Feldman) and Rodney, Interestingly, your message (Jerry) also came in as an attachment. And thanks for the explanation. I was remiss in not looking at the headers myself. As for OE being broke, to quote Insp. Renaud, it's just shocking. Let's cut MS a break. They've only had 20 years to

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-20 Thread Twayne
On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:22:40 -0400 Jerry Clancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jerry, Would somebody please tell me why virtually every post from her has an empty message with an attachment? I don't open attachments unless necessary. It's because of the fact that Michelle electronically

[users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack

2008-05-20 Thread Twayne
X-No-Archive: Yes On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:22:40 -0400 Jerry Clancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jerry, Would somebody please tell me why virtually every post from her has an empty message with an attachment? I don't open attachments unless necessary. It's because of the fact that