Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread RW
On 2 Aug 2015 21:06:40 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > qpsmtpd is different here since it has a plugin architecture and then > it definitely makes more sense to document things in the plugins, > which are just modules. If spamassassin does not have such an > architecture then I agree it makes sen

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Christian Jaeger
On August 2, 2015 7:36:36 PM CEST, RW wrote: > In future start with > > man spamassassin > > which will lead you to: > > CONFIGURATION >Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf SpamAssassin configuration files I think I've actually seen this page rececntly. I also remember having looked throug

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Dave Funk
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015, Christian Jaeger wrote: On August 2, 2015 6:40:10 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote: no idea what you are talking about by saying "I can't find anything about this in the docs" I'm talking about the bundled docs. The man / perldoc pages of Mail::SpamAss

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread RW
dled docs. The man / perldoc pages of > Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes / Mail::SpamAssassin::*Bayes* and > the default config files. That's where I expected this info to be. In future start with man spamassassin which will lead you to: CONFIGURATION Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Christian Jaeger
On August 2, 2015 6:40:10 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote: > no idea what you are talking about by saying > "I can't find anything about this in the docs" I'm talking about the bundled docs. The man / perldoc pages of Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes / Mail::SpamAssassi

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.08.2015 um 18:36 schrieb Christian Jaeger: On August 2, 2015 5:15:08 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 02.08.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Roman Gelfand: Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration? ?? you just need to *train* it for ham *and* spam I think I remember from past

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Christian Jaeger
On August 2, 2015 5:15:08 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 02.08.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Roman Gelfand: > > Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration? > > ?? > > you just need to *train* it for ham *and* spam I think I remember from past use of SA tha

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.08.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Roman Gelfand: Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration? ?? you just need to *train* it for ham *and* spam signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bayes Filtering

2015-08-02 Thread Roman Gelfand
Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration? Thanks in advance

Re: another bayes oddity

2015-07-23 Thread RW
bled > > > Nevertheless, the mtime _and_ size of ~/.spamassassin/bayes_journal > inches forward with every delivery. Why? Bayes keeps track of when each token last contributed to a classification, so it knows which tokens to purge during an expiry. That's the main reason for having a journal.

another bayes oddity

2015-07-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I have bayes_auto_learn0 bayes_auto_expire 0 bayes_learn_to_journal 0 add_header all Autolearn _AUTOLEARN_ and indeed, all messages are tagged with X-Spam-Autolearn: disabled Nevertheless, the mtime _and_ size of ~/.spamassassin/bayes_journal inches forward with every delivery. Why? --

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread RW
on it. > > Experiences with that absolutely do vary, widely. That's rather my point. > Keep in mind that > Bayesian classification gives a statistical metric, not a human > claim; the delta from 100% isn't a polite warning, it's as hard a > fact as statis

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote: i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision in a scoring system, it's one component that

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote: i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision in a scoring system, it's one component that said from someone scoring BAYES_999 with 7.9 while milter-r

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Bill Cole
Bayesian classification gives a statistical metric, not a human claim; the delta from 100% isn't a polite warning, it's as hard a fact as statistical prediction can provide, given a valid Bayes DB. 99.00% spam certainty from Bayes will be wrong 1% of the time, on average. If you've actually

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread RW
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:31:04 + Roman Gelfand wrote: > I think the issue was because I never ran sa-learn --sync. That only matters if you set bayes_learn_to_journal 1

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
sure not for BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision in a scoring system, it's one component that said from someone scoring BAYES_999 with 7.9 while milter-reject is 8.0 - the other rules are there to avoid false-positives and false-negatives for a

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread RW
nt that and even if for sure not for > >BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the > >only decision in a scoring system, it's one component > > > >that said from someone scoring BAYES_999 with 7.9 while > >milter-reject is 8.0 - the other rules are

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision in a scoring system, it's one component that said from someone scoring BAYES_999 with 7.9 while milter-reject is 8.0 - the other rules are there to avoid false-positives and false-negatives for a good reason So THIS explains, why you blame (us

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand: shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote: i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision in a

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand: shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision in a scoring system, it's one component

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Gelfand
I think the issue was because I never ran sa-learn --sync. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:09 PM Roman Gelfand wrote: > this is my bayes config > > use_bayes 1 > use_bayes_rules 1 > > > # Bayesian classifier auto-learning (default: 1) > # > bayes_auto_learn 1 > baye

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Gelfand
this is my bayes config use_bayes 1 use_bayes_rules 1 # Bayesian classifier auto-learning (default: 1) # bayes_auto_learn 1 bayes_path /var/spamassassin/bayes bayes_file_mode 0777 shortcircuit BAYES_99spam shortcircuit BAYES_00ham score BAYES_00 -3.5 score

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Gelfand
I just ran spamassassin -D --lint. Below, is the bayes results. Jul 21 22:49:41.958 [8922] dbg: bayes: learner_new self=Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes=HASH(0xb54d58c), bayes_store_module=Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::DBM Jul 21 22:49:42.063 [8922] dbg: bayes: learner_new: got store=Mail

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Gelfand
autolearn=no > > version=3.3.2 > > Are you certain that the Bayes database that you did your manual learning > to is > the same one that your mail filtering system is looking at? > > "BAYES_50" implies that your Bayes database (as used by your mail filtering &g

Re: Bayes Filtering

2015-07-21 Thread David B Funk
, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RDNS_NONE,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT,T_REMOTE_IMAGE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Are you certain that the Bayes database that you did your manual learning to is the same one that your mail filtering system is looking at? "BAYES_50" implies that your Bayes database (as used by

Bayes Filtering

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Gelfand
I did numerous sa-learn on this one type of email and spamassasiin makes the following evaluation every time. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RDNS_NONE,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT,T_REMO

Re: Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-30 Thread RW
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:41:23 -0500 (CDT) David B Funk wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Charles Sprickman wrote: > > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > >> > >> it can't with just 7 spam samples > > > > Oh my. > > > > So apparently my pre-spamassassin filtering is keeping all the best > > spam away from sp

Re: Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-30 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Charles Sprickman wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: it can't with just 7 spam samples Oh my. So apparently my pre-spamassassin filtering is keeping all the best spam away from spamassassin. My autolearn threshold is set to 12 for spam. I’ll take it down a few notches, feed

Re: Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Charles Sprickman wrote: > So apparently my pre-spamassassin filtering is keeping all the best spam > away from spamassassin. If you have pre-spamassassin filtering that is already classifying message as spam then consider feeing those spam messages to spamassassin's "sa-learn -

Re: Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-29 Thread Charles Sprickman
0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version >> 0.000 0 7 0 non-token data: nspam >> 0.000 0243 0 non-token data: nham >> 0.000 0 56976 0 non-token data: ntokens >> 0.000

Re: Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-29 Thread RW
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:14:40 -0400 Charles Sprickman wrote: > 0.0000 7 0 non-token data: nspam > ... > But I never see any bayes rule hits in the headers of my emails. I > have in my personal sql prefs the following: bayes_min_ham_num (

Re: Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.06.2015 um 01:14 schrieb Charles Sprickman: If I run sa-learn and ask it to dump some info, that works: [root@spam-b /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin]# sa-learn --username=sp...@bway.net --dump magic 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000

Verify Bayes is functioning

2015-06-28 Thread Charles Sprickman
This is hopefully easier than I’m thinking it is. We’ve been running without bayes for a very long time and I thought I’d give it a shot again with autolearning to see if it’s helpful. The last time I touched it was 2.6.something and we had spam scanning spread across four servers and I don’t

Re: bayes filtlering

2015-06-23 Thread Bill Cole
the default scores for the rules that are being hit there and for the "required" threshold. A 100% certain Bayes judgment (technically anything >99.9%) only adds up to a score of 3.7 with the default scores, and the default threshold is 5.0, so you need *something more* than a Bayes

Re: bayes filtlering

2015-06-23 Thread Reindl Harald
lve that and then consider *careful* to adjust scores because it heavily depends on how your bayes in both directions is trained /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf score BAYES_00 -3.5 score BAYES_05 -2.0 score BAYES_20 -1.0 score BAYES_40 -0.5 score BAYES_50 1.8 score BAYES_60 3.5 score BAYES_80 5

bayes filtlering

2015-06-23 Thread Roman Gelfand
Periodically, I am running the following command on my spam box... sa-learn --no-sync --spam /mbx/adomain.com/auser/Maildir/.Junk/{cur,new} It seems to work. However, I continue to get this message type. Why? Here is SA message. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.ad

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-20 Thread Dieter Scholz
Hello, Attached you find the output of the sa-learn execution. The nine spam E-Mails learned are there because I manually learned a mbox file with spam. As you can see the ham part seems to work. is there anyone who could help me on this or anyone who has the same problem? Or is it better to

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-20 Thread RW
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:41:36 +0200 Dieter Scholz wrote: > > Attached you find the output of the sa-learn execution. The nine > > spam E-Mails learned are there because I manually learned a mbox > > file with spam. As you can see the ham part seems to work. > > > is there anyone who could help me

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-20 Thread Dieter Scholz
Hello, My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because ham mails are learned as expected. Autolearning is based on a different

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Dieter Scholz
Hello, Hello, My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because ham mails are learned as expected. Autolearning is based on a different

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 17-06-15 20:00, Dieter Scholz wrote: > Hello, > >>> My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no >>> spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score >>> and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct,

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Dieter Scholz
Hello, My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because ham mails are learned as expected. Autolearning is based on a different score to

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Dieter Scholz
Hello you need to find out how these values are set * bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -0.001 * bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 9.0 I have set these lines today. Do these differ from the default values? Dieter

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:19:43 +0200 Dieter Scholz wrote: > My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no > spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score > and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because > ham mails ar

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
queued. Postfix calls Amavis through the milter interface. My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because ham mails are learned as expected

Re: SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Dieter Scholz
the milter interface. My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because ham mails are learned as expected. What could be the problem

SA bayes filter learns ham but no spam

2015-06-17 Thread Dieter Scholz
the milter interface. My problem is: The bayes filter does (auto-)learn ham mails but no spam mails. In my logs I found spam mails that have a very high score and should be autolearned. I think my bayes setup is correct, because ham mails are learned as expected. What could be the problem

Re: Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
n the other subthread, I was wrong with that assumption. another simple solution is use SQL or redis storage for bayes database :-) -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu c

Re: Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-05-25 09:43 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Ian> But, in fact I already have a cronjob running "sa-learn Ian> --force-expire". The reason I would prefer to remove it (and so Ian> the reason for my original post) is that it does a journal sync as Ian> well, which I didn't intend and w

Re: Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-25 Thread RW
On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:26:32 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2015-05-24 23:25 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: > > Mark> With other bayes back-ends the traditional expiration mechanisms > Mark> need to be used, either auto-expiration runs triggered from time > Mark> to

Re: Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 2015-05-24 23:25 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: Mark> With other bayes back-ends the traditional expiration mechanisms Mark> need to be used, either auto-expiration runs triggered from time Mark> to time by SpamAssassin, or explicit expiration runs, e.g. from a Mark> cron job

Re: Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-05-24 23:25 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: Mark> With other bayes back-ends the traditional expiration mechanisms Mark> need to be used, either auto-expiration runs triggered from time Mark> to time by SpamAssassin, or explicit expiration runs, e.g. from a Mark> cron job

Re: Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-24 Thread Mark Martinec
Ian Zimmerman wrote: I am very confused by the various features involving expiry from Bayes. perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf : bayes_expiry_max_db_size (default: 15) What should be the maximum size of the Bayes tokens database? When expiry occurs

Confused about Bayes expiry

2015-05-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I am very confused by the various features involving expiry from Bayes. perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf : bayes_expiry_max_db_size (default: 15) What should be the maximum size of the Bayes tokens database? When expiry occurs, the Bayes system will keep

Re: ham source for site-wide bayes?

2015-05-20 Thread Axb
On 20.05.2015 18:29, Steve Rainwater wrote: I've set up spamassassin with a site-wide bayes configuration. I have some spamtrap email addresses that supply fresh spam into bayes for training on a cron job. However, from what I've read, bayes needs to have ongoing ham as well as spam fo

Re: ham source for site-wide bayes?

2015-05-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 5/20/2015 12:29 PM, Steve Rainwater wrote: I've set up spamassassin with a site-wide bayes configuration. I have some spamtrap email addresses that supply fresh spam into bayes for training on a cron job. However, from what I've read, bayes needs to have ongoing ham as well a

ham source for site-wide bayes?

2015-05-20 Thread Steve Rainwater
I've set up spamassassin with a site-wide bayes configuration. I have some spamtrap email addresses that supply fresh spam into bayes for training on a cron job. However, from what I've read, bayes needs to have ongoing ham as well as spam for training in order to work well. What&#

Re: interesting spammer trick (bayes)

2015-05-07 Thread Mark Martinec
On 2015-05-03 10:55, Reindl Harald wrote: recently i observed by playing around with bayes-training that some junk (maybe unintentional) is using the mimetype 'application/octet-stream' instead 'text/html' containing the payload of a form with javascript prevets the attach

interesting spammer trick (bayes)

2015-05-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Hi recently i observed by playing around with bayes-training that some junk (maybe unintentional) is using the mimetype 'application/octet-stream' instead 'text/html' containing the payload of a form with javascript prevets the attach

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-30 Thread James Michael Keller
/sh # # sa-learn-systemwide # # Run sa-lean against user Maildir folders for ham / spam token learning # # LOGFILE="/var/log/sa-learn-run.log" SALEARNBIN="/usr/bin/sa-learn" SAUSERNAME="Debian-exim" SADBPATH="/var/spool/exim4/.spamassassin/bayes" SAFOLDER

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-28 Thread
On 27 Mar 2015, at 13:03 , Michael wrote: > Yes, that's true. But if I'm right, new mails stay in "new" until the > appropriate folder in the IMAP client has been opened, right? No. As soon as a client access the folder, it is moved to cur. This has nothing to do with a user opening the folder.

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Alex Regan
xchange, they've disabled IMAP on public folders. We have one setup where we forward the mail to their internal Exchange system. We used to have spam and ham folders where users would place mail for us to review then train bayes, but we haven't been able to do it for a while because of this lack of IMAP issue. Thanks, Alex

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread RW
hen it works, autotraining does have the advantage of happening in real-time. > And then maybe the default config which auto learns spam and > ham is already the best... the default doesn't learn ham well, I'd only do that as a last resort. > My setup is already

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.03.2015 19:54, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: the easiest way is to train on false positives and false negatives. dovecot imapd has plugin to train when mail is moved from/to spam. On 27.03.15 20:10, Michael wrote: My concerns are the following: Sometimes new kind of spam is appearing. Th

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Michael
On 27.03.2015 19:54, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 27.03.15 15:16, Michael wrote: >> I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the >> following way: >> >> Do the following once a day for each user: >> 1.) sa-learn -u username --ham

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Michael
On 27.03.2015 16:21, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 27.03.2015 um 16:16 schrieb Michael: >> I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the >> following way: >> >> Do the following once a day for each user: >> 1.) sa-learn -u username

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Michael
On 27.03.2015 19:09, RW wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:16:13 + > Michael wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the >> following way: >> >> Do the following once a day for each user: >> 1.)

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.03.15 15:16, Michael wrote: I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the following way: Do the following once a day for each user: 1.) sa-learn -u username --ham ../maildir/cur 2.) sa-learn -u username --spam ../maildir/.Spam/cur What do you think about this

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread RW
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:16:13 + Michael wrote: > Hi, > > I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the > following way: > > Do the following once a day for each user: > 1.) sa-learn -u username --ham ../maildir/cur > 2.) sa-learn -u username --s

Re: How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.03.2015 um 16:16 schrieb Michael: I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the following way: Do the following once a day for each user: 1.) sa-learn -u username --ham ../maildir/cur 2.) sa-learn -u username --spam ../maildir/.Spam/cur The idea is to train the

How to automatically train each users Bayes?

2015-03-27 Thread Michael
Hi, I would like automatically learn each users Bayes database in the following way: Do the following once a day for each user: 1.) sa-learn -u username --ham ../maildir/cur 2.) sa-learn -u username --spam ../maildir/.Spam/cur The idea is to train the Bayes for each user without the need to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-14 Thread Matthias Leisi
> > Am 14.03.2015 um 16:45 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas : > ...but as I mentioned before, training spam from mail to non-existent > recipients may be even a good thing… I would not train from mail to non-existent recipients, but would restrict to a defined set of spamtraps (which may have bee

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
UHLAR - fantomas napsal(a): Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54, Filip Havlíček wrote: there is my configuration: /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: http://pastebin.com/PM5jN8wi /etc/po

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-14 Thread Filip Havlíček
I manage email through ISPConfig, I think wildcard for any domain is not set. Dne 13.3.2015 v 16:02 Matus UHLAR - fantomas napsal(a): Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54, Filip Havlíček wrote: there is my configuration: /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: http://pastebin.com/PM5jN8wi /etc/postfix/main.cf: http

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-13 Thread Filip Havlíček
19:57 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 04.03.15 14:37, RW wrote: Why send them through SpamAssassin in the first place

Re: bayes expire

2015-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2015 um 19:53 schrieb @lbutlr: Non-token data: last expire time delta and last expire reduction count are currently 0. What is the time before these fields might start to see data? 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000 0 2928

Re: bayes expire

2015-03-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11.03.15 12:53, @lbutlr wrote: Non-token data: last expire time delta and last expire reduction count are currently 0. What is the time before these fields might start to see data? you must either allow auto-expire (which many people discourage) or run expire manually (once per time) -- Mat

bayes expire

2015-03-11 Thread @lbutlr
Non-token data: last expire time delta and last expire reduction count are currently 0. What is the time before these fields might start to see data? 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000 0 2928 0 non-token data: nspam 0.000

Re: questions about the internal bayes-storage

2015-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
itete Nachricht Betreff:RE: Re: questions about the internal bayes-storage (KMM152616938V77165L0KM) :ppNA Datum: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:33:32 + (UTC) Von:ppkana1-kana An: Reindl Harald PayPal Email It appears you're contacting us with an email address that is not registered on

Re: questions about the internal bayes-storage

2015-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2015 um 13:20 schrieb RW: On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:49:55 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: "sa-learn --backup" looks like the tokens are stored as CRC32 which (in case if i am right) brings the question which software / library / implementation does the checksums It's truncated sha1 ah ok

Re: questions about the internal bayes-storage

2015-03-11 Thread RW
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:49:55 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > "sa-learn --backup" looks like the tokens are stored as CRC32 which > (in case if i am right) brings the question which software / > library / implementation does the checksums It's truncated sha1.

questions about the internal bayes-storage

2015-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
"sa-learn --backup" looks like the tokens are stored as CRC32 which (in case if i am right) brings the question which software / library / implementation does the checksums i recently faced that message after upgrade to MariaDB 10 150311 8:38:01 [Note] InnoDB: Using CPU crc32 instructions loo

Re: disable all tests except bayes

2015-03-05 Thread Reindl Harald
th no logging and "spamc -s 2000 --port=10029 < sample.eml" results with only the bayes hits in the report header for grep - perfect test skript with 7 messages: real0m1.153s user0m0.043s sys 0m0.093s maybe stil tuneable to not give back the whole message, but that&#

Re: disable all tests except bayes

2015-03-05 Thread RW
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:57:25 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: > Joolee skrev den 2015-03-05 14:52: > > Configure the rules directory as an empty folder. > > not working imho, it will be the same as when 3.4 is not complete > installed it wouldn't be an empty folder, you'd need a 23_bayes.cf (or sim

Re: disable all tests except bayes

2015-03-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.03.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Joolee skrev den 2015-03-05 14:52: Configure the rules directory as an empty folder. not working imho, it will be the same as when 3.4 is not complete installed disbled all plugins except check and bayes check it still lint and *how* to

Re: disable all tests except bayes

2015-03-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Joolee skrev den 2015-03-05 14:52: Configure the rules directory as an empty folder. not working imho, it will be the same as when 3.4 is not complete installed disbled all plugins except check and bayes check it still lint On 5 March 2015 at 14:38, Reindl Harald wrote: is there a

Re: disable all tests except bayes

2015-03-05 Thread Joolee
Configure the rules directory as an empty folder. On 5 March 2015 at 14:38, Reindl Harald wrote: > is there a way to disable *all* tests except bayes without list a > bazillion "score TEST 0"? > > the idea is a seperate spamd instance with '--siteconfigpath='

disable all tests except bayes

2015-03-05 Thread Reindl Harald
is there a way to disable *all* tests except bayes without list a bazillion "score TEST 0"? the idea is a seperate spamd instance with '--siteconfigpath=' for automated classification tests of the whole spam/ham corpus with "spamc -s 2000 --port=10029 < samp

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.03.2015 um 19:57 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 04.03.15 14:37, RW wrote: Why send them through

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 04.03.15 14:37, RW wrote: Why send them through SpamAssassin in the first place? He apparently wants to filter mail

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Filip Havlíček wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Reject invalid users at the MTA level during SMTP before the message even hits SA. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread RW
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email > addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Why send them through SpamAssassin in the first place? > Table bayes_token grow up to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Filip Havlíček
amassassin/ no idea what "bayes_vars" is Dne 4.3.2015 v 13:45 Reindl Harald napsal(a): Am 04.03.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Filip Havlíček: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Reindl Harald
amassassin/ no idea what "bayes_vars" is Dne 4.3.2015 v 13:45 Reindl Harald napsal(a): Am 04.03.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Filip Havlíček: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.03.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Filip Havlíček: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to 0,5GB right now, because there are thounsands of unknown email addresses like: a...@hotmail.com ablewi

Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Filip Havlíček
Hi, I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to 0,5GB right now, because there are thounsands of unknown email addresses like: a...@hotmail.com ablewi...@hotmail.com abl...@hotmail.com

Re: Bayes expiration with Redis backend

2015-02-28 Thread RW
mply the total number of emails learned by Bayes.

Re: Bayes expiration with Redis backend

2015-02-27 Thread Matteo Dessalvi
rs is that these counts are above 200 (otherwise bayes is disabled). You may get the number of tokens that are actually in the redis database (not expired) by counting the number of lines produced on stdout by 'sa-learn --backup' or 'sa-learn --dump data'. The format of field

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