RE: A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

2016-08-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jenifer, In the current release, when you select any particular holiday, you are given the option to have it added to your Calendar. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:05 PM To: viphone@googl

Re: looking for a repeater book

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Re: A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

2016-08-25 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi Mark. Do you know if there is a way to incorporate this into the regular callendar? I'm interested to see if this is updated every year. I'm going to have a lot of fun with this ap! (smile) Thanks for sharing! Jenifer Barr Jenifer571 on dice world Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at

Re: Comparison between navigating ipad mini 4 and iphone 6

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
No iPad has the 3D Touch as far as I am aware, not even the pro. Other than the touch thing, the differences between the iPad mini for and the iPhone 6 have to do in the first place with the amount of real estate on the screen, thus more space between icons on your home screen for instance. Also

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Turner
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Comparison between navigating ipad mini 4 and iphone 6

2016-08-25 Thread TaraPrakash
Dear all I use an iPhone 6 which does not have 3-D touch. I believe iPad mini for has it. I am trying to understand how navigating on iPad mini for using voice over Will differ from iPhone 6. Would appreciate any advice as I am about to buy a new iPad Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The fol

Re: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Regina Alvarado
I think this may help me too Ary. Thanks. reggie & Lex On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have VoiceOver not speak notifications, but get a vibration when you receive one and your mute switch is turned on. If

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure how anyone can know if this is a true statement or not. The fact is, as other's have pointed out, the NFB has taken other companies to task in the past, including Microsoft and Google. The NFB has also applauded and awarded Apple on multiple occasions in the past. I think tossing o

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread TaraPrakash
Sorry. More blind people use windowsLess said about Windows 10 accessiblity better. But microsoft pays for the convention and is let off the hook. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Dacia Cole wrote: > > Thank you for the support of the NFB!! I'm glad it has provided

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread TaraPrakash
Sadly because apple doesn't sponsor conventions. They are singled out. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Mário Navarro wrote: > > > > NFB forever! > thank you for all you do for us ... > the ios 10 public beta 6, is very stable and have much less issues than in >

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
heheh. hey tony, thats one hell of a pet peeve. :) yeah, you use the groups about the same way I do. they are supposed to be representing us, aren't they? -eric On Aug 25, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Tony wrote: > Thank you for giving me the opportunity to point out the arrogance of people > like you wh

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
and yet, the NFB passed a resolution specifically targeting Apple when apple was clearly the best in the field accessibility wise. I have far less issues with their OS (on the laptop or the iPhone) than I do with the windows machine (using jaws or NVDA or even narrator) At least when an app turn

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
um, ok. now that you have devolved into the realm of personal insults…. It seems to me that you have now lost track of the actual conversation (and as a result, lost the argument). I am not going to insult you or do something as inane as that. What I am going to offer is some advice: step back,

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I think we're talking about more than just a few inconveniences. I was one of those who was hit with that bug where VoiceOver would hang almost every time I got a call and I had to hard reset my phone. Sure people who weren't hit by this bug can say it's no big deal, but IMHO, that's only

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree with what you say about the software engineering process, but I don't think the release early and release often is just an MS issue. When was the last time you saw Apple postpone a release to fix a quality issue or a serious bug? The ramifications of Apple slipping a release would be hu

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I probably shouldn't go there, but I use both IOS and Android, and I definitely wouldn't characterize Android as an old rickety house. On 25/08/16 13:34, Devin Prater wrote: Yeah, it'll be exciting once apps release updates designed for it, and maybe I'll be surprised in a good way. I sure hope

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
And don't forget the awards the NFB gave Apple in 2009 and 2010 for their work on accessibility and including VoiceOver across all of their product lines making their products accessible out of the box. I'm not defending or praising the NFB, but I do think people should look at the whole pictur

RE: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Larry Lumpkin
This messages crashed my system. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""] Thank you for that i

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Bill Gallik
Well, I may have gotten a bit carried away in my last post – particularly in the post script! I will apologize for that remark about in a be sticking its nose where doesn't belong – but I don't think that organization or any other organization has the right to be critical of someone who prefers

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Bill Gallik
There are a couple of points I would like to make in response to some of the pro – NFB emails post it out here. First of all, when the low-quality iOS releases came out both for 8.0 and 9.0 I immediately called Apple support complaining about the fact that obviously the marketers had taken cont

Re: nearby explorer for IOS pod cast

2016-08-25 Thread Cathy Inglis
I heard by going to blind-geek-zone.net. You put a dash between blind and geek and geek and zone. Cathy and Tiny. > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > It is available through iBlink Radio through the blind geek sound option. I > listen to it from there. > > Sent from my iP

Re: brailleEasy help

2016-08-25 Thread Dani Pagador
Swipe right. For a you have to do finger 1 and swipe right to indicate that there's nothing in the right half of the Braille cell. K and l is the same thing, just adding more fingers--1-3, and 1-2-3 respectively, then swipe right after you've filled in the first half of the cell. thing On 8/25/

Re: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread englishrider91
Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have VoiceOver not speak notifications, but get a vibration when you receive one and your mute switch is turned on. If this is the case, you want to turn off the setting called always speak notifications in settings/general/accessibility/

Re: nearby explorer for IOS pod cast

2016-08-25 Thread Les Kriegler
It is available through iBlink Radio through the blind geek sound option. I listen to it from there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Rob wrote: > > I don't know about OOTunes. But the podcast on Blind Geek Zone is not yet > available in iBlink Radio. So I conclude that di

RE: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Tony
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to point out the arrogance of people like you who only want to condemn those of us who champion different causes. Last week I was trying to select a funeral home to plan for my wife’s upcoming demise. One of the sites had less than adequate accessibili

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Devin Prater
Thank you for that information, Wane. I appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > After reading a few messages on this thread, I submit the following: > To those that say that the NFB hasn't spoken against other major tech > companies, like Micr

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread SoonerAnnie
Yea!!! Thanks for the heads up! Something to look forward to. Ann Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: > > Hello, > > From what I have seen posted in other places, in iOS10 voiceover will echo > typing with contracted braille. It is something I too have bee

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread SoonerAnnie
Hi Richard, I did respond to Harri's message and it went through as I did see it on the list. I am using the away mode and orientation is locked. My SE is the only device I have had trouble with the 3rd party keyboard. Thanks. Ann Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Richard T

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, From what I have seen posted in other places, in iOS10 voiceover will echo typing with contracted braille. It is something I too have been wanting especially since BSI supports UEB. Regards, Greg Wocher On 8/25/2016 4:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote: OK, I guess you just h

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Wayne Merritt
After reading a few messages on this thread, I submit the following: To those that say that the NFB hasn't spoken against other major tech companies, like Microsoft, Google and Amazon: if you look back at the NFB resolutions since 2009, you will find around 20 passed that were directed either in pr

RE: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Regina, FYI, my iPhone 6 running iOS 9.3.4 is often inconsistent with announcing notifications when I have my phone muted. It seems like the quieter it is in a meeting when I have the phone muted that VoiceOver blasts out the notification. It is supposed to vibrate when a notification comes

Re: looking for a repeater book

2016-08-25 Thread Pete Nalda
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Re: nearby explorer for IOS pod cast

2016-08-25 Thread Joseph Hudson
Does anybody have the joining email address for this application. Because I have somebody else that is looking to join the email list, and it looks like it is a Google group not a mailman list serve life what he was thinking. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I de

RE: nearby explorer for IOS pod cast

2016-08-25 Thread Rob
I don't know about OOTunes. But the podcast on Blind Geek Zone is not yet available in iBlink Radio. So I conclude that different podcast aggregators must receive their updates at different times. Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

Re: looking for a repeater book

2016-08-25 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
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Re: looking for a repeater book

2016-08-25 Thread Pete Nalda
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Re: Jester for copy last spoken utterance to clipboard

2016-08-25 Thread Anthony Vece
Wonderful Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Thanks, Anna. I look for the day when that nice new copy feature where you > can select text by word line at Cetera becomes available all over the system. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 25, 2016, at 1

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
OK, I guess you just have to abandon the Third Party keyboard and use the original keyboard, pasting to whatever item you want. I would do that rather than not having mBraille at all. Carol P On 25/08/2016 01:31, SoonerAnnie wrote: That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing

RE: How to Explore Distant Locations Virtually with Seeing Eye GPS?

2016-08-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Thanks for the reply, Chris. Well, so much for making Seeing Eye GPS my go to GPS app because I consider its inability to explore distant locations virtually and save them at my convenience to be a real shortcoming. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Regina Alvarado
Well said Jonathan! I was not going to get into this fight. I have had some issues also. However, I really understood what Jonathan was saying. I am deeply grateful to Apple for putting a screen reader directly in its operating system, but they truly can do better just as we all can. NFB only p

Re: Jester for copy last spoken utterance to clipboard

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, Anna. I look for the day when that nice new copy feature where you can select text by word line at Cetera becomes available all over the system. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > Tap 4 times with 3 fingers. > > Best, >

Re: Simple Work-Around for Nasty Surprise in iOS 9.3.4

2016-08-25 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I only have it very occasionally and thought, until recently, that it was probably because it was always early in the morning, when the internet here was not being over-used, so the interaction between myself and Siri was snappy. The echo didn't really put me off too much and, as Sieghard

Re: Jester for copy last spoken utterance to clipboard

2016-08-25 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Mary, Tap 4 times with 3 fingers. Best, Anna > On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > This is a gesture I never used, but now I have a need for it and can't > remember it. Any help out there? Thanks in advance. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following infor

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread rajmund
LOL guys keep it up, it's truly entertaining... On 25/08/16 20:29, Mário Navarro wrote: sorry, but I'm not your doctor ... but I can see perfectly well that you need to change your medication. Às 19:01 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu: excuse me? what do you mean by this statement? b

Jester for copy last spoken utterance to clipboard

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
This is a gesture I never used, but now I have a need for it and can't remember it. Any help out there? Thanks in advance. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this l

Re: iPhone 6 dropping lots of calls

2016-08-25 Thread Shai
Hi, Have you checked for carrier settings updates by going to settings/general/about? I have noticed that sometimes my phone does not report that there is a carrier update and going into this screen allows the phone to check for those updates. Have you also tried restarting the phone? Do these drop

Re: iPhone 6 dropping lots of calls

2016-08-25 Thread Rebecca Sabo
Hi I live in Denver Colorado and I threw Verizon keeps dropping calls today. Becky Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rose Combs wrote: > > Great, it is happening in Arizona also, at least to me. > > > Rose Combs > roseco...@q.com > > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
sorry, but I'm not your doctor ... but I can see perfectly well that you need to change your medication. Às 19:01 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu: excuse me? what do you mean by this statement? be careful what I write? would you explain this to myself and others on the list? I will take

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
bla, bla, bla, bla, bla. that's what you are. blah. ok, I get that. you like to take pictures, and show yourself to everyone. oh let me guess. You also are photographer? go take pictures to other side. Here no one wants them. Às 19:00 de 25/08/2016, Ed Worrell escreveu: Actually Mario, I am

RE: Syncing only ringtones to an iPHone

2016-08-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Cara, Did you find a solution to your problem? I've given it some thought, and the first thing that comes to mind is that you may want to copy all of your media to your MacBook Air via a third party solution called Senuti. Now I haven't used it in 2 years or so but, back then, at lea

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
um. I beg to differ with that. there are times when the NFB (of which I am a member) makes decisions not based on facts, but simply as a means of getting attention. THis appears to be one of those times. Also, apple is the only company that hasn't contributed to the fund that the others have. T

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread dacia . luck
We are all entitled to our opinions and what we think. And I agree that we need to be careful what we write when we write it. But I think we have beaten this issue to death. It doesn't matter whether you support the resolution or not, it was written read and passed. You can support it or not, th

Re: Vibrating clock app on iOS

2016-08-25 Thread englishrider91
Wayne, I think he might've meant this app. The name get shortened to Qoo on the iPhone home screen. ckrono.qoo - The cuckoo on your phone! by IIS New Media Labs e.U. https://appsto.re/us/zseBR.i Thanks, Ari > On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > Thanks Gordon. I looked for b

Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog Apple has rolled out a patch for three previously unknown zero-day exploits that were used to hack into the iPhone 6 of Ahmed Mansoor, an award-winning human rights activist based in the United Ara

RE: iPhone 6 dropping lots of calls

2016-08-25 Thread Rose Combs
Great, it is happening in Arizona also, at least to me. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Devin Prater
Yeah, it'll be exciting once apps release updates designed for it, and maybe I'll be surprised in a good way. I sure hope so. But until then, Linux will stay on my Mac, and I'll continue trying to figure out how one lives within the open fields of Android, where you're given an old rickedy house

Re: Vibrating clock app on iOS

2016-08-25 Thread Wayne Merritt
Thanks Gordon. I looked for both apps you mentioned, and Cqoo Clock was not found in the search, but I will download VoiceOver Clock at home since it is so big, over 100 megs. I've heard of the Time Buzz app for the Apple Watch, but unfortunately I can't justify an Apple Watch just yet. It needs to

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
Can’t say anything more than “ditto”. Excited for it to go out of beta. > On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:40, Ed Worrell wrote: > > Actually the NFB had done nothing for the accessibility of iOS 10. Apple was > devoted to improving the accessibility of iOS 10 from the very first betas. > The first betas

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Devin Prater
Google and Microsoft have probably made donations or sponsored a convention or two, so attacking them wouldn't be in the NFB's best interests. I think the main problem with Google's efforts is that there aren't that many people on the team, or they may not know what we need. There's only one per

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Dave Mitchel
excuse me? what do you mean by this statement? be careful what I write? would you explain this to myself and others on the list? I will take into consideration that you may not understand this sort of thing could be perceived as a threat. so now please let me know what and how this was meant.

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Ed Worrell
Actually Mario, I am a co-owner of my own assistive technology training company. I volunteer at a training center once a month helping newly blinded adults, I work with the National Library Services Montana Talking Book library, I am the president of the Great Falls chapter of the Montana Associ

looking for a repeater book

2016-08-25 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
is there anything like a repeater directory available which works withVO and also has listings which update? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you fe

RE: nearby explorer for IOS pod cast

2016-08-25 Thread Chip Orange
Yes, but when I searched for blindgeekzone or blind-geek-zone or blind geek zone, it could not find it in any of these forms. I'm asking if it's there in some other form, or not in OOTunes at all? Chip -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
david, be careful what you write ... it's just a advice ... Às 17:46 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu: you have no idea what others have done for themselves and for the blind community. stop your gushing and learn when it is best to keep your mouth shut. Dave -Original Message--

RE: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Chip Orange
Also, do not disturb can be setup in settings to allow things through if the phone is unlocked, so you’ll need to check the settings for “do not disturb” to make sure it’s set to “always” silence the phone, and not just when the phone is locked. Chip From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ma

RE: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Chip Orange
I believe turning on the “do not disturb” will stop everything from coming through, while flipping the mute switch only stops sounds. If you leave the phone setup as the default, then vibrations are allowed, and so the mute switch still allows them to happen. The do not disturb is almost wh

RE: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Chip Orange
Thanks Sieghard ... the point where the mute switch doesn't mute vibrations is a good one, and for me, is the deciding reason when I go into a meeting or other quiet time, why I would choose "do not disturb" instead of just flipping the mute switch. Chip -Original Message- From: vipho

RE: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Chip Orange
Yes, thanks to you and Christopher, but I knew this much. What I was asking really is why recommend to the OP to go through the rather more difficult procedure of manually turning on “do not disturb” when you can simply flip the mute switch? Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Dave Mitchel
will you give it a rest? reading the resolution does nothing for what your statement was aboutabout what others have done for the blind community. ok, last post I read from you because my delete key is working well. -Original Message- From: Mário Navarro Sent: Thursday, August 25, 201

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Dave Mitchel
you have no idea what others have done for themselves and for the blind community. stop your gushing and learn when it is best to keep your mouth shut. Dave -Original Message- From: Mário Navarro Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: nfb R

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Roger Frischenmeyer
Mario, no one is questioning that Apple has bugs in their software at times and some of those bugs are problematic. However, it seems a little disingenuous to me that the national Federation of the blind criticizes Apple for their excess ability yet doesn't say anything about other companies exc

Re: iPhone 6 dropping lots of calls

2016-08-25 Thread Kimber Gardner
Turns out this is a Verizon problem. It seems to be happening to customers who live in PA and Verizon says they are working on it. At least it's not my phone. Thanks to all for the suggestions. Kimber On 8/25/16, Kimber Gardner wrote: > I'll try resetting network settings. It's weird though, I u

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
Mary, my answer to you is: read the post from Jonathan Mosen. http://mosen.org/that-nfb-resolution/ Às 17:15 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu: Mario, Since you don't know me or anything about my history, you are way out of bounds with your criticism. Just because I don't fall into loc

Re: Simple Work-Around for Nasty Surprise in iOS 9.3.4

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
For me, it doesn't happen anymore with this version than it did with previous versions of iOS 9. Others may have different experiences. It never ever happens when I'm in the email program reading and responding to mail. It only happens if I'm in another program, Safari, Facebook, or newsify. The

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
Mario, Since you don't know me or anything about my history, you are way out of bounds with your criticism. Just because I don't fall into lockstep, and I'm not willing to ignore the fact that the Federation gets money from other vendors, whom they didn't do not criticize and resolutions, does

Re: Simple Work-Around for Nasty Surprise in iOS 9.3.4

2016-08-25 Thread englishrider91
Does this issue really happen more in iOS 9 .3 .4 than it did in earlier releases of iOS 9? I'm still on an earlier version of iOS 9, and I only have this dictation problem very occasionally. Thanks, Ari > On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Bill Gallik wrote: > > The simple work-around for the “na

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
you are of those only has intelligence to criticize what others do for you ... You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and accessibility. instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you. NFB never done anything for you? read this and learn.

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
Two years in a row, and if he has had resolutions which specifically called out Apple. At the first of those conventions, they were calling Google and accessibility champion. Why doesn't NFB spend equal time on other companies, especially google, which is still behind Apple and someways, but the

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
They didn't get any money from Apple. It's very simple. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer > wrote: > > I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not > testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the voiceover

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Bill, I have to agree with you. If NFB had any influence on Apple, good. I doubt it, but the point is the hypocrisy. They called Google and excess ability champion, because Google gave them money. This was before all the talkback improvements. There were no damning resolutions for Google, onl

RE: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Bryan Schulz
Hi, I would say not all the credit goes to the nfb as apple included voiceover to avoid lawsuits and retain the income flow of the k-12 market. >From what I have seen over the last 20 years, usually nfb resolutions do >nothing other than strongly urge! Bryan From: viphone@googlegroups.com [

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
Hi Richard. thanks for this. now for you Jonathan Mosen. thank you, thank you, thank you, my dear friend. I have always admired you, and I will admire you as long you are fair and honest. you were perfect in your analysis on the resolution of NFB, and the defense of all of us. your words c

Simple Work-Around for Nasty Surprise in iOS 9.3.4

2016-08-25 Thread Bill Gallik
The simple work-around for the “nasty surprise in iOS 9.3.4” is as follows: 1) Focus VoiceOver on the DICTATION button. 2) Use the 3-finger double tap to turn speech off. 3) use the 1-finger double tap to begin dictation (VoiceOver will still be focussed on DICTATION) 4) Dictate your message or t

Re: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Regina Alvarado
I tried muting my phone on a phone call. I still got notifications. Reading this article I am led to believe it will stop notifications and only vibrate if enabled. I think I am having brain block about these features. [smiles) reggie & Lex On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Dacia Cole
Thank you for the support of the NFB!! I'm glad it has provided a better stable beta cycle. No, we don't always make the most popular decisions, but we have the progress of all blind people in mind when we pass these resolutions. thanks, Dacia On 8/25/16, Bill Gallik wrote: > To The Jay hawk

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Bill Gallik
The truth is that Apple had those improved procedures in place long before NFB ever opened its’ collective mouth. You have no idea of the long term planning that goes into the software life cycle. Being a retired software engineer (Bell Labs) I’m accutely aware of the lead time that goes into

Re: update on my sound problem

2016-08-25 Thread Regina Alvarado
Alan and all, Yes, I did get my sounds back. Thank you so much. Also, I did not know I could switch it on in control center so thanks for that also. Very confused, however, about what should be set in settings. I want a scheduled time with screen locked overnight, but I want the option to turn

Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

2016-08-25 Thread Anthony Vece
In a perfect world nothing is perfect. Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE > On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I don't agree with this sentiment. This feature should work, and someone > should have to grab a pair of headphones just to use the dictate feature on > their p

Re: iPhone 6 dropping lots of calls

2016-08-25 Thread Kimber Gardner
I'll try resetting network settings. It's weird though, I used to have 5 bars almost all the time when I'm at home, now I have only 2 or 3 and sometimes only 1. So I will be calling Verizon this afternoon. I pay enough money every month that I should have better coverage than this. On 8/25/16, D

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Bill Gallik
To The Jay hawk Fan specifically and all members of the list in general, Thank you, that was precisely my point. Apple certainly is not perfect in the accessibility realm, but other tech companies who have a history of not caring in the least about accessibility seemingly get a free pass on thi

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Roger Frischenmeyer
So if the national Federation for the blind is so powerful, why aren't they making other operating systems more accessible? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Mário Navarro wrote: > > > > NFB forever! > thank you for all you do for us ... > the ios 10 public beta 6,

Re: A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

2016-08-25 Thread Dave
This may come as a shock! But No, i didn't know, that today, was national banana split Day. As they say! O.I.A. In other words, Only In America. lol. Dave. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Fabulously Fu

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Ed Worrell
Actually the NFB had done nothing for the accessibility of iOS 10. Apple was devoted to improving the accessibility of iOS 10 from the very first betas. The first betas happened before the NFB resolutions even were passed. Apple will do what Apple wants to do. This cycle of betas were focused on

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Mário Navarro
NFB forever! thank you for all you do for us ... the ios 10 public beta 6, is very stable and have much less issues than in previous betas systems. I'm testing the cycle of ios 10 betas and I can tell you had never before tested a system as so stable for accessibility. this is the system that

Re: iPhone 6 dropping lots of calls

2016-08-25 Thread Dave
Hi Kimber, I have this problem, with Facetime calls, when i am calling my sister in australia. But i think that is mainly down to, australia having a pretty crappy telecomunications network. I can think of 3 possible things, that you could consider. 1. It could be a handset specific issue.

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Devin Prater
I now use Linux on my Apple computer. I also have an Android tablet, but that's more for seeing if I want my nexp phone to be Android. I have nothing against the people at Apple, I just would rather have more control and freedom on my devices, and know that there are plenty people where that doe

RE: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Turner
Below is a link to Jonathan Mosen's blog where he quotes the entire resolution. I suggest before any more comments are made, people read the entire resolution. http://mosen.org/that-nfb-resolution/ Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: Descriptive Video on Amazon Prime?

2016-08-25 Thread Rick Alfaro
Hi, good luck with that. I’ve so far not seen any descriptive video on amazon Prime. When I inquired as to the possibility of offering it in the future, all I got was a standard canned message stating that my email would be forwarded to their accessibility team. I never receive any sort of respo

A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

2016-08-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, Did you know that today is National banana split day? You would have if you had the National Day Calendar app installed on your iOS device. This is a marvelously fun and socially engaging app, for all. A definite must-have solution for anyone who wants to be in the "know."

RE: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Tony
While I haven't heard about the mentioned resolution, I have had personal experience with NFB personnel at various levels having an elitist attitude. I have also had very pleasant contact with some of their staff. Most groups contain a mix of personalities. I think NFB feels the need to be mo

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