Re: [Vo]:Bauer on "60 Minutes"

Bauer's got it. At 08:04 PM 4/20/2009, you wrote: Henry Bauer's take: http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/mainstream-science-wrong-again-for-two-decades/

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:54:26 -0700: Hi, [snip] >23Na --> 24Mg >- or argon to potassium, >39Ar --> 40K (which is mildly radioactive) There is no 39Ar. Only the stable isotopes exist, i.e. 36, 38, and 40, with the overwhelming majority being 40Ar. The reaction

[Vo]:Bauer on "60 Minutes"

Henry Bauer's take: http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/mainstream-science-wrong-again-for-two-decades/

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mike Carrell mounted the barricade and roared out: > grok is indeed a "Stranger in a Strange Land" Let's see how patronizing you people are when you need to trundle your wheelbarrow out of your garden shed just to make a trip

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

grok is indeed a "Stranger in a Strange Land" - Original Message - From: "grok" To: Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt . Fact is, the 'MiB' have more-or-less existed ever since J.P. Morgan & Co. pulled the plug (so to speak) on N

Re: [Vo]:The Last Stand

Jed sez: > OrionWorks wrote: ... >> OTOH, lenr-canr.org is still not listed as a valid reference. > > Apparently they made it impossible to list LENR-CANR.org anywhere, in any > article in Wikipedia. That's what some people there told me. They are a > bunch of weirdos! Nothing to be concerned ab

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: > >However, to publicly > >speculate about such a possibility might be considered so disruptive > >to the economic fabric of our society that I wonder if McKubre > >delib

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:36:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] >On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, OrionWorks wrote: > >> This is, of course, the same strategy that BLP is attempting to >> exploit. Economically speaking, it is less disruptive if one includes >> the white elepha

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

In reply to OrionWorks's message of Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:28:20 -0500: Hi, [snip] >However, to publicly >speculate about such a possibility might be considered so disruptive >to the economic fabric of our society that I wonder if McKubre >deliberately chose not to go there. [snip] You mention "disru

Re: [Vo]:The Last Stand

OrionWorks wrote: Looks to me as if the Cold Fusion entry out in Wiki has been updated...somewhat. The SPAWAR report on "Triple tracks" in CR-39 is listed. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion OTOH, lenr-canr.org is still not listed as a valid reference. Apparently they made it impo

[Vo]:60 Minutes, Orion Works, Jed, Jones

Guys, heads up, it is going to get interesting. The 60 minutes piece is a turning point worthy of celebration. But on the next day, nobody yet has defined the real consumables of LENR power devices, or the support infrastructure.. The cells are decisively O/U, but not O/U by a "plug power" crit

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Is Hot Again - CBS News

>From Steven Krivit: > Regarding the "Internal Memo" Featured on "60 Minutes" > "Cold Fusion" Story > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/ The following is probably unwarranted speculation on my part but I wonder if DARPA deliberately made a decision not to reveal the study for strategic/defense re

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks mounted the barricade and roared out: > Actually, IMO, even if it is technically plausible to get every > building off the grid and completely self sufficient there are valid > reasons to maintain some kind of a loca

[Vo]:This just in

Kidwell, D. Trace Analysis of Elements in a Palladium Matrix. in ICCF-14 International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2008. Washington, DC. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KidwellDtraceanaly.pdf

RE: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

Let me refine the previous posting with this reworded and conditional paragraph, not that it will be any less provocative to either camp: *Given that both hydino-tech and LENR may involve QM reactions of hydrogen within the confines of a host element (i.e. the "energy hole"), if either technology

Re: [Vo]:What does processed uranium oxide cost?

http://www.uraniumseek.com/news/UraniumSeek/1175092156.php "The uranium used in nuclear power plants comes in pellets. Typically, a pellet of uranium weighs around seven grams or 0.24 ounces. This pellet is capable of generating as much energy as three and a half barrels of oil. At $60 a barrel,

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > 1) the one which requires a very expensive feedstock (deuterium) and leaves > some radioactive transmutation products, including tritium - or > > 2) the one which requires only water and (apparently) leaves no radioactive > footprint Ah hah!

[Vo]:Cold Fusion Is Hot Again - CBS News

Regarding the "Internal Memo" Featured on "60 Minutes" "Cold Fusion" Story http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/

[Vo]:What does processed uranium oxide cost?

I gather uranium costs about $40/kg. Does anyone know what it costs by the time they make it into uranium oxide fuel pellets? Those pellets, I finally established, are 11.5 mm diameter, 15 mm long. At least according to this: http://www.insc.anl.gov/rbmk/reactor/assembly.html They weigh abou

RE: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

Jones Beene wrote: 1) the one which requires a very expensive feedstock (deuterium) and leaves some radioactive transmutation products, including tritium - or 2) the one which requires only water and (apparently) leaves no radioactive footprint Not to rain on anyone's timely parade (60 Minute'

[Vo]:WSJ blog notes 60 Minutes

See: http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/04/20/cold-fusion-its-back-just-in-time-for-the-great-energy-debate/ Ed has already left a remark, so there is no need for me to chime in! This has a link to Steve's page about Garwin, which is pretty damning: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blo

RE: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton & OrionWorks wrote: > This is, of course, the same strategy that BLP is attempting to > exploit. Economically speaking, it is less disruptive if one includes > the white elephant. Being an engineer and always seeking reliability, I will have a CF gen

Re: [Vo]:"Cold Fusion Is Hot Again" text report

Terry Blanton wrote: Most sites offer a "print" version which usually strips most of the extraneous background. This one did not appear to have that, oddly enough. I couldn't find it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

>From Ed Storms: ... > All we need now is the knowledge to make it > work on a large scale. If you think the present > economic problems are bad, wait until people > realize that most of the major cooperations would > go bankrupt as their products become worthless. > Another example of being car

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

You hit on the essential consequence of CF, Steven. This power source could replace all other power sources everywhere and give the Third world the same benefit the First World has, but at much less expense. It would replace the grid and most of the pipelines that carry gas and gasoline.

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, OrionWorks wrote: > This is, of course, the same strategy that BLP is attempting to > exploit. Economically speaking, it is less disruptive if one includes > the white elephant. Being an engineer and always seeking reliability, I will have a CF generator with a

[Vo]:The Last Stand

Looks to me as if the Cold Fusion entry out in Wiki has been updated...somewhat. The SPAWAR report on "Triple tracks" in CR-39 is listed. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion OTOH, lenr-canr.org is still not listed as a valid reference. Perhaps Wiki may be where the "last stand" will ev

Re: [Vo]:"Cold Fusion Is Hot Again" text report

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > [It is difficult to separate this text from the background] Most sites offer a "print" version which usually strips most of the extraneous background. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

Something else that piqued my interest: McKubre's highly optimist prediction of being able to manufacture CF power cells possibly within 20 years seemed carefully worded. What I mean by that is that if these power cells can indeed be economically manufactured, particularly for the excessive power

[Vo]:New section updated

I updated the news section with some quotes from the transcript, and one comment by McKubre that I transcribed. Plus I put a link to Steve's copy of Garwin's report. See: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm Please let me know if you spot an error. - Jed

[Vo]:"Cold Fusion Is Hot Again" text report

[It is difficult to separate this text from the background] Cold Fusion Is Hot Again 60 Minutes: Once Considered Junk Science, Cold Fusion Gets A Second Look By Researchers (CBS) Twenty years ago it appeared, for a moment, that all our energy problems could be solved. It was the announcement

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

Garwin's statement was mind boggling. As Ed says, 60 Minutes did us a favor by airing his comment. McKubre's response was good. I would have exploded! Perhaps, if I had been the interviewer, I might have had the presence of mind to ask Garwin: "If this is an error measuring input, how do you e

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

Garwin is living proof that he and all skeptics by association are completely irrational. 60 Minutes was very clever in showing this side of the issue without appearing to take sides. At the same time, the believers were shown to be intelligent, open minded and rational. All propaganda h

[Vo]:Traffic above normal but not huge

I was very pleased with that broadcast. It has not produced a gigantic effect on the traffic at LENR-CANR.org. After the broadcast last night, people downloaded 686 papers. That is much more than normal for a Sunday night, but not a huge number. That is about how many they download in 24 hours

[Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

>From Steven Krivit: > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/60MinutesColdFusion.shtml Excerpt: "...no doubt that anomalous excess heat is produced in these experiments." - Internal memo - DARPA 02-21-2007 - "New Physical Effects in Metal Deuterides" ...and from a prior post: > We''ll see wha