From Steven Krivit:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/60MinutesColdFusion.shtml
Excerpt:
...no doubt that anomalous excess heat is produced in these experiments.
- Internal memo - DARPA 02-21-2007
- New Physical Effects in Metal Deuterides
...and from a prior post:
We''ll see what
I was very pleased with that broadcast.
It has not produced a gigantic effect on the traffic at
LENR-CANR.org. After the broadcast last night, people downloaded 686
papers. That is much more than normal for a Sunday night, but not a
huge number. That is about how many they download in 24
Garwin's statement was mind boggling. As Ed says, 60 Minutes did us a
favor by airing his comment.
McKubre's response was good. I would have exploded! Perhaps, if I had
been the interviewer, I might have had the presence of mind to ask
Garwin: If this is an error measuring input, how do you
[It is difficult to separate this text from the background]
Cold Fusion Is Hot Again
60 Minutes: Once Considered Junk Science, Cold Fusion Gets A Second
Look By Researchers
(CBS) Twenty years ago it appeared, for a moment, that all our
energy problems could be solved. It was the
I updated the news section with some quotes from the transcript, and
one comment by McKubre that I transcribed. Plus I put a link to
Steve's copy of Garwin's report. See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm
Please let me know if you spot an error.
- Jed
Something else that piqued my interest:
McKubre's highly optimist prediction of being able to manufacture CF
power cells possibly within 20 years seemed carefully worded. What I
mean by that is that if these power cells can indeed be economically
manufactured, particularly for the excessive power
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
[It is difficult to separate this text from the background]
Most sites offer a print version which usually strips most of the
extraneous background.
Terry
Looks to me as if the Cold Fusion entry out in Wiki has been
updated...somewhat. The SPAWAR report on Triple tracks in CR-39 is
listed.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
OTOH, lenr-canr.org is still not listed as a valid reference.
Perhaps Wiki may be where the last stand will
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
This is, of course, the same strategy that BLP is attempting to
exploit. Economically speaking, it is less disruptive if one includes
the white elephant.
Being an engineer and always seeking reliability, I will have
You hit on the essential consequence of CF, Steven. This power source
could replace all other power sources everywhere and give the Third
world the same benefit the First World has, but at much less expense.
It would replace the grid and most of the pipelines that carry gas and
gasoline.
From Ed Storms:
...
All we need now is the knowledge to make it
work on a large scale. If you think the present
economic problems are bad, wait until people
realize that most of the major cooperations would
go bankrupt as their products become worthless.
Another example of being careful
Terry Blanton wrote:
Most sites offer a print version which usually strips most of the
extraneous background.
This one did not appear to have that, oddly enough. I couldn't find it.
- Jed
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From: Terry Blanton OrionWorks wrote:
This is, of course, the same strategy that BLP is attempting to
exploit. Economically speaking, it is less disruptive if one includes
the white elephant.
Being an engineer and always seeking reliability, I will have a CF
Jones Beene wrote:
1) the one which requires a very expensive feedstock (deuterium) and leaves
some radioactive transmutation products, including tritium - or
2) the one which requires only water and (apparently) leaves no radioactive
footprint
Not to rain on anyone's timely parade (60
I gather uranium costs about $40/kg. Does anyone know what it costs
by the time they make it into uranium oxide fuel pellets?
Those pellets, I finally established, are 11.5 mm diameter, 15 mm
long. At least according to this:
http://www.insc.anl.gov/rbmk/reactor/assembly.html
They weigh
Regarding the Internal Memo Featured on 60 Minutes Cold Fusion Story
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/
See:
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/04/20/cold-fusion-its-back-just-in-time-for-the-great-energy-debate/
Ed has already left a remark, so there is no need for me to chime in!
This has a link to Steve's page about Garwin, which is pretty damning:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
1) the one which requires a very expensive feedstock (deuterium) and leaves
some radioactive transmutation products, including tritium - or
2) the one which requires only water and (apparently) leaves no radioactive
http://www.uraniumseek.com/news/UraniumSeek/1175092156.php
The uranium used in nuclear power plants comes in pellets. Typically,
a pellet of uranium weighs around seven grams or 0.24 ounces. This
pellet is capable of generating as much energy as three and a half
barrels of oil.
At $60 a barrel,
Let me refine the previous posting with this reworded and conditional
paragraph, not that it will be any less provocative to either camp:
*Given that both hydino-tech and LENR may involve QM reactions of hydrogen
within the confines of a host element (i.e. the energy hole), if either
technology
Kidwell, D. Trace Analysis of Elements in a Palladium Matrix. in
ICCF-14 International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science.
2008. Washington, DC.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KidwellDtraceanaly.pdf
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As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:
Actually, IMO, even if it is technically plausible to get every
building off the grid and completely self sufficient there are valid
reasons to
From Steven Krivit:
Regarding the Internal Memo Featured on 60 Minutes
Cold Fusion Story
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/
The following is probably unwarranted speculation on my part but I
wonder if DARPA deliberately made a decision not to reveal the study
for strategic/defense reasons.
Guys, heads up, it is going to get interesting.
The 60 minutes piece is a turning point worthy of celebration.
But on the next day, nobody yet has defined the real consumables of LENR
power devices, or the support infrastructure.. The cells are decisively O/U,
but not O/U by a plug power
OrionWorks wrote:
Looks to me as if the Cold Fusion entry out in Wiki has been
updated...somewhat. The SPAWAR report on Triple tracks in CR-39 is
listed.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
OTOH, lenr-canr.org is still not listed as a valid reference.
Apparently they made it
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:28:20 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
However, to publicly
speculate about such a possibility might be considered so disruptive
to the economic fabric of our society that I wonder if McKubre
deliberately chose not to go there.
[snip]
You mention
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:36:58 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
This is, of course, the same strategy that BLP is attempting to
exploit. Economically speaking, it is less disruptive if one includes
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However, to publicly
speculate about such a possibility might be considered so disruptive
to the economic fabric of our society that I wonder if
Jed sez:
OrionWorks wrote:
...
OTOH, lenr-canr.org is still not listed as a valid reference.
Apparently they made it impossible to list LENR-CANR.org anywhere, in any
article in Wikipedia. That's what some people there told me. They are a
bunch of weirdos! Nothing to be concerned about,
grok is indeed a Stranger in a Strange Land
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Fact is, the 'MiB' have more-or-less existed ever since J.P. Morgan Co.
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grok is indeed a Stranger in a Strange Land
Let's see how patronizing you people are when you need to trundle your
wheelbarrow out of your garden shed just
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