RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Iverson
I see more and more instances of when some research is finding things that don't quite agree with 'theory' or 'whats expected', and it always involves some kind of experiment where a physical parameter is way beyond what science has explored. I distinctly remember a quote from one scientist

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Jeff Fink
It seems to me that traditional cases of demon possession over the centuries have been more common with more documentations than the UFO/abductions we have today. Couldn't this all be a new twist on an old theme? Perhaps we tend to embrace this new stuff and reject the old stuff simply because

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Frank Roarty wrote: Mauro, I converted my power point presentation on fractional quantum states to html. I think it has bearing on your additional axis from a relativistic perspective http:// www.byzipp.com/energy/excessHeat.htm Regards Fran

RE: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-04 Thread Frank Roarty
Thanks Horace, I will rectify the page immediately, as you might have guessed it was unintentional, I have nothing but respect for Hal Puthoff. I am reading most of his material you consider old hat for the very first time. So far have only read a few of his papers but his

[Vo]:The Divinity Paradigm, was the Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Hi Terry, Where did you get Barbara Bush's grandfather, Aleister Crowley? Jack Smith Terry wrote on 8-3-09: Methinks thou seeketh LAM, the entity who guided Barbara Bush's grandfather, Aleister Crowley: http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm Crowley died the year of the Roswell crash. Keel

[Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Harbach Jak
(IF) the 'abduction scenario by EXTRATERRESTRIAL INVADERS' is the cover-story by which we are 'soothed?'// Then the supposed 'REAL STORY/aka scenario' must be that the 'Grays' are REALLY the MORLOCKS and WE ARE FOOD?!?~;-) Gee whiz; I feel BETTER already! Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:59:57

Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Terry Blanton
Food or pets according to Charles Fort. Some have speculated that they feed on fear. They are symbiotes who ensure that mankind does not destroy itself; but, remains in a constant state of war in order to drain energy from our emotions. Yikes! (burp) Terry On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM,

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:41 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net

Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Financial Capitalism harry - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 12:22 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm Food or pets according to Charles Fort. Some have speculated that they feed on fear. They are

Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Terry Blanton
That's political! Terry On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Harry Veederhvee...@ncf.ca wrote: Financial Capitalism harry

Re: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

2009-08-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Frank Roarty wrote: Yes, It is actually one of the paths that led me into adopting Naudts’ relativistic solution in that everyone was assuming the hydrogen orbital must be getting smaller because the only other variable in the energy equation

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-04 Thread Horace Heffner
Yes, that is exactly what I was wondering. So does the coil would heat up faster if the fly wheel is locked? harry For under $100 you can order the parts and find out for yourself. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Jeff, a significant difference exists between the UFO observations and demon possession. The UFO observations are based on real events that can be documented. When the different kinds of observations are combined, they show a consistent interpretation. On the other hand, demon possession

RE: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Rick Monteverde
Why not both? Best photograph I never took and forever kick myself for missing: at a state fair, in a stall for cattle, there was a First Place ribbon over Boopsie or whatever, and a sign thanking Safeway for purchasing etc. etc. And there was a ~12 year old girl who apparently raised it, with

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-04 Thread Mauro Lacy
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Frank Roarty wrote: s identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or labelNo, but I'll read about it. Reciprocal space sounds like a mirror space to me. By

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Mauro Lacy wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Frank Roarty wrote: s identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or labelNo, but I'll read about it. Reciprocal space sounds like a mirror space

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-04 Thread Mauro Lacy
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Mauro Lacy wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Frank Roarty wrote: s identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or labelNo, but I'll read about it.

Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Well Chris, we know a few facts about the would we all inhibit. One fact is that certain important elements and compounds are not distributed uniformly in the universe. One of these is water, especially D2O. Granted, water can be found on many planets, but in small amounts and sometimes

Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Chris Zell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm SNIP Finally, there are a number of events suggesting that they are very interested in - or even interfering with - our nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Gulf Stream energy

2009-08-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:11:31 -0800: Hi, [snip] A shift of the current south toward Africa would necessarily also mean that the north east coast of the US would miss out, however that's unlikely to have a large effect on the passage past Florida. IOW at least

Re: [Vo]:Casimir cavity boilers

2009-08-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:55:12 -0800: Hi, [snip] and then quickly flowing through a Casimir cavity to break the Casimir bond so that recycling could occur. I haven't really been following this closely, but one question does come to mind. Wouldn't the

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Jeff Fink
-Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm Jeff, a significant difference exists between the UFO observations and demon possession.

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Edmund Storms
On Aug 4, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Jeff Fink wrote: -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm Jeff, a significant difference exists

Re: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Terry Blanton
Maybe. But, as any real estate agent will tell you what is important is: Location, location, location. If you want to establish a little illegal operation and keep the galactic police off your arse, you surely do not do it in the galactic core. You would pick some backwater little planet on a

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-04 Thread Mauro Lacy
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Mauro Lacy wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Frank Roarty wrote: s identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or labelNo, but I'll read about it.

RE: [Vo]:ALARM US?!?: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry sez: Maybe. But, as any real estate agent will tell you what is important is: Location, location, location. If you want to establish a little illegal operation and keep the galactic police off your arse, you surely do not do it in the galactic core. You would pick some backwater

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Mr. Fink It seems to me that traditional cases of demon possession over the centuries have been more common with more documentations than the UFO/abductions we have today. Couldn't this all be a new twist on an old theme? Perhaps we tend to embrace this new stuff and reject the

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry sez: Absolutely one of the best descriptions of sudden self-actualization I have ever read. I, too, experienced something similar at about 19 yrs old. Actually, Terry, I have a confession to make. I must recount the true-story of a deeply buried memory. You be the judge! ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Gulf Stream energy

2009-08-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:44 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:11:31 -0800: Hi, [snip] A shift of the current south toward Africa would necessarily also mean that the north east coast of the US would miss out, however that's unlikely to

Re: [Vo]:Gulf Stream energy

2009-08-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:06:01 -0800: Hi, [snip] If we invest billions in offshore turbines and the flow disappears or moves away from the coast, we will be hard pressed to replace the renewable energy source fast enough. This reminds of something else.

Re: RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
I think some of the abductions are related to the experience of sleep paralysis. This is when you awake from sleep but find you are incapable of moving. It is a frightening feeling. Harry - Original Message - From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net Date: