Re: [Vo]:Rossi addresses Ni enrichment issue

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Gluck
Not so much, I think- more an "Sphinx without a secret"- I think he has found a very good method to activate nanometric Nickel- this method can include additives or not- they can be called a catalyst or not- it is a problem of definition. It is about a great density of NAE. The problem is how to b

Re: [Vo]:Cu isotopes, nanopores, mu metal, deflation fusion

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:05:45 -0800: Hi, [snip] > The feasibility of such states indicates that >when QM computation means are available, they will likely show such >states to be Rydberg like, with quantum fuzziness unimportant to the >state. > Gee Horace

Re: [Vo]:Rossi, Casimir & Reifenschweiler

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 06:43:26 -0700: Hi, [snip] >In its simplest form, the 'Reifenschweiler effect' is a substantial >reduction of beta-decay due to cavity confinement. The decay rate of tritium >is reduced by more than 25% when the isotope is absorbed in 15 nm >ti

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:32:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Suppose it turns out you can extract much more energy per gram >from a Pd-D system than Ni-H. I'm fairly sure that isn't the case. Most nuclear fusion reactions yield about 5 MeV / amu (ballpark). Nuclear fission

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:18:59 +0300: Hi, [snip] >Other - I bet that Rossi's nickel is NOt isotopically enriched in any way, >in order to separate isotopes you have to bring the metal in a fluid form >liquid or gaseous. > How about a salt in solution? Regards, Rob

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Gluck
This is one of the possibilities- it is not easy to solve, process- enerich, dry, purify Ni)- that's not +10% of the price, it is is more than X times the price of Nickel. I have retired (in 1999) from the local Institute of Stable Isotopes- producing isotopes of Li, C, N, products marked see pleas

Re: [Vo]:Enough pandering of Rossi?

2011-04-13 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, This reminds me of an anecdote related to Albert Einstein, which I once heard; don't know if it's true, but I tend to believe it. According the anecdote Einstein was at an conference were he was talking to someone (name?) and they had an interesting discussion. At a certain moment the gues

FW: [Vo]:PhysOrg: Apr11,2011: Physicists discover new way to visualize warped space and time

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
GRAVITATIONAL WAVE/TORSION WAVE TOROID REACTORS--->Hense: BAGEL-BODY/Subsingularity-TransHyperSpace/Torsion-Wave TOROID-PLASMA-BREACH REACTORS. Jack Harbach O'Sullivan Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:51:15 +0300 From: esaru...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:PhysOrg: Apr11,2011:

FW: [Vo]:PhysOrg: Apr11,2011: Physicists discover new way to visualize warped space and time

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
GEE-WHIZ: Maybe there's really something to this; and just maybe this same model is reflected on the Proton-Atomic level and will more lucidly graph Casimir-Effects~:-) COOL/Independents Reflect my WORK RATHER PERFECTLY: MY WORK HAS BEEN PROVEN (and their graphics illustrations are dyna

[Vo]:Why we should continue studying other modes of cold fusion (in a few years)

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
I suggested that there may be niche applications for Pd-D or other forms of cold fusion, and we also may learn more about the reaction from it. I suppose we should concentrate mainly on nickel cold fusion for the next few years. But eventually we should revisit these other variations. Why? Here's

Re: [Vo]:Cu isotopes, nanopores, mu metal, deflation fusion

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:23 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:05:45 -0800: Hi, [snip] The feasibility of such states indicates that when QM computation means are available, they will likely show such states to be Rydberg like, with quant

RE: [Vo]:Musical "Electric Chairs" ?

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to Jones Beene's message: >This is the first time that I have noticed how the new Mills' reactor scheme >could be similar to the Rossi device, in two ways - either of which may end >up in court, eventually. Let's hope not. But as Appl

RE: [Vo]:Musical "Electric Chairs" ? CORRECTION

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
Correction: (important correction) > I should add that the regeneration step requires more heat than is produced in the exothermic step Meant to say "higher peak temperature" instead of "more heat" ...in effect, only one or two of the five heaters would be active at any time, and these are used

Re: [Vo]:Why we should continue studying other modes of cold fusion (in a few years)

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Cousin Jed, A fine exercise in the high art of metaphor. The problem is that fire burns always if the sticks are of the proper size and essence of wood are dry and you rub them according to best practice. For the time given Pd-D is not exactly so reproducible. Seriously speaking if I had fu

Re: [Vo]:Musical "Electric Chairs" ? CORRECTION

2011-04-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jones sez: ... > In effect, he [Rossi] has trumped Mills at his own game. Agreed, except for the caveat that if Mills' can get his CIHT process off the ground BLP might still have a fighting chance. It might eventually turn into a practical evaluation of determining whether in Rossi's "low-tech

[Vo]:America's Fukushima

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
The US may never face the kind of (natural + technological) tragedy that Japan has suffered recently, but nature alone is poised to do far more harm on her own. That would be our ticking time bomb - a supervolcano which is poised to create 10,000 times more damage than any Tsunami. http://www.oura

[Vo]:And Now for Something Completely Different

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
Skeptico's interview with Dr. Stuart Hameroff http://www.skeptiko.com/stuart-hameroff-on-quantum-consciousness-and-singularity/ excerpt: "The bit with the AI and the singularity, there’s actually a couple of points of friction here. As I said, I spent 20 years studying microtubule information pr

Re: [Vo]:America's Fukushima

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
And the magma plume is much larger than thought: http://scienceblog.com/44248/yellowstone-volcano-plume-bigger-than-previous-estimates T Don't forget the New Madrid fault, another future US disaster in the making: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone

Re: [Vo]:Cu isotopes, nanopores, mu metal, deflation fusion

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
About using ordinary QM equations I said: "Such an analytic capability does not yet exist, due to the relativistic requirements, and the requirement that the nucleus motion is significant." I should have also included the requirements to accommodate spin coupling and magnetic field forces.

[Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
This time next year - if a delayed Rossi demo has finally taken place by then (amidst all of the predictable angst from the LENR continent). then . in addition to the "me-too" group, who claim to be co-inventors, and the other pretenders who come crawling out of the woodwork like Bob Park and his p

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Patent Problem (and safety/security issues)

2011-04-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Denis April 12th, 2011 at 3:29 PM Dear Dr. Rossi and Focardi But these are my questions: -1- You told that in October will be ready the first 1MW Energy Catalyzer. Can you confirm this lead-time? -2- Same question about the Patent. What is the forecast for the Lead-Time of the acceptation

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Patent Problem (and safety/security issues)

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: 2- a patent like this can request up to 6 years of processing I do not know what that means. Rossi told me he hopes to "have the patent" by the time of the 1 MW reactor. I took that to mean the application will be filed, not granted. I believe that nowadays, European patents ar

[Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Some of us may still remember that classic video add where Ella Fitzgerald sings a hearty tune. It's a spontaneous ditty which ends with the shattering of a crystal glass as Ella belts out a final high note. The commercial subsequently proceeds to play back a Memorex tape recording of Fitzgerald's

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Veeder
I think it is a great way to fake it. harry > >From: Jed Rothwell >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 9:22:17 PM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake > >I rate this fake as preposterous. Has this person done any tests to prove that >it can be done in the first place?

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 04/13/2011 02:17 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > The burning question many Vorts are probably asking themselves these > days is whether Rossi's mysterious e-cats devices are due to "live" > nuclear effects... Unless you can explain away the null result from the lab in Sweden, it's

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread noone noone
There is no question about it in my mind. Nickel is transmuting to copper via a nuclear process. From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 11:26:20 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex? On 04/13/2011 02:17

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Patent Problem (and safety/security issues)

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Wed, 4/13/11, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Rossi wrote: > > > 2- a patent like this can request up to 6 years of > processing > > I do not know what that means. Rossi told me he hopes to > "have the patent" by the time of the 1 MW reactor. I took > that to mean the application will be filed, n

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: I think it is a great way to fake it. Okay, what insulator would you use inside the pipe? You need something thin enough to allow the water through and yet effective at 1 L/s with a 31°C temperature difference for the apparent 130 kW heat in the Feb. 10 test. Why would

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 04/13/2011 02:17 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: The burning question many Vorts are probably asking themselves these days is whether Rossi's mysterious e-cats devices are due to "live" nuclear effects... Unless you can exp

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
After seeing Harry's comment, I finally went and read the proposed mechanism. I have a couple comments on it. * It's totally ruled out if the effluent is observed to be steam and the output temperature is claimed to be roughly 100C. Whether wet steam or dry steam, if it's coming

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 04/13/2011 02:45 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >> On 04/13/2011 02:17 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >>> The burning question many Vorts are probably asking themselves these >>> days is whether Rossi's mysterious e-cats devic

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: We're *NOT* sullying it! If the discussion proves nothing else, it proves that, if the "Rossi effect" isn't real, it's so similar in appearance to a "real" effect that we really can't tell the difference. So, we're using "Memorex" a

[Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread francis
Jones, I second your statements regarding reversible chemistry and think it can exist at multiple different scales (Quark soup, molecular bond and even astronomical). The quark soup is beyond my meager abilities and everyone already knows my pet theory of using changes in ZPE to disassociate fra

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >- Finally, if the probe is actually in a backwash, dead zone, or side >channel, isolated from the main flow . . . > > In the Feb. 10 test, at 1 L/s there can be no such thing as a backwash or dead zone. This test also had a Delta-T as much as 31°C, which I t

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Whoa! The D18 model has an electric generator and light, and they have a movie of it running! See: http://www.toysteam.net/wid18final.wmv You can hear the sound change as the RPMs change. The thing runs much smoother with fewer vibrations than the D6 model. The D2 will vibrate itself off a table

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 04/13/2011 03:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Whoa! The D18 model has an electric generator and light, and they have > a movie of it running! See: > > http://www.toysteam.net/wid18final.wmv > > You can hear the sound change as the RPMs change. The thing runs much > smoother with fewer vibrations

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Andrea Selva
I know where the excess heat comes from ! Are all those *warm *regards in his blog ? On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > On 04/13/2011 03:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Whoa! The D18 model has an electric generator and light, and they have > > a movie of it running!

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen: ... >> http://www.toysteam.net/wid15final.wmv >> >> Great stuff! >> >> Rossi should get a 4 kW steam engine for his next demo. > > Hey, if he does that, he can close the loop, and get rid of the external > power supply for the heater! ... Oh, the irony of it all! Granted, to pro

[Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
This was formerly titled What We Know from Rossi. It is a list of major assertions made by Rossi and others, mainly Rossi in his blog 1) The catalyst is not copper. 2) The catalyst is not iron. 3) The catalyst is not a precious metal. 4) The catalyst is not radioactive. 5) The catalyst is not expe

[Vo]:A skeptic steps out

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://energycatalyzer.blogspot.com/ http://www.fysik.org/WebSite/fragelada/resurser/cold_fusion.pdf Peter Ekström:"Kall Fusion på italienska" */PETER EKSTRÖM/*

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread francis
Jones, I am convinced that the reversible chemistry is at the heart of this phenomena, that the "reversing" force is ZPE and that once the mechanism is refined there will not be a need for six month replacement charges or regeneration. My model is of our 3D reality collapsed dow

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-13 23:00, Jed Rothwell wrote: This was formerly titled What We Know from Rossi. It is a list of major assertions made by Rossi and others, mainly Rossi in his blog You made me remember that a few weeks ago I started writing down (or more like, copy/pasting) a list of questions answe

RE: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list... add "emissions seen in the 100keV-300keV range"

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Jed: Add that he has seen energetic particle emissions in the 100keV to 300keV range... I put this in a posting a few days ago and no one even noticed! This from a Ny Teknik Q&A session with Rossi... Rossi: No radioactivity has been found in the residual metals, it is true, but the day after t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Angela Kemmler
I found something: citation: Q: does the catalyzer works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder? Answer (Rossi):No -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

Re: [Vo]:A skeptic steps out

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a rough translation by Google of the first part of the paper. The second part is in English. It is mainly devoted to theoretical objections well known to everyone in the fields since 1989. 1 Peter Ekstrom 2011-04-12 Cold Fusion in Italian Peter Ekstrom Division of Nuclear Physics, Lund Uni

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread francis
Jones, I am convinced that the reversible chemistry is at the heart of this phenomena, that the "reversing" force is ZPE in the form of gas law and that once the mechanism is refined there will not be a need for six month replacement charges or regeneration. My model is of our 3D r

Re: [Vo]:A skeptic steps out

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lewan Mats tells me: "[All of us] ave been talking with [Ekstrom]. Essén mentions him in my first interview with Essén and Kullander. He is involved in research on hot fusion." - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Angela Kemmler wrote: > Q: does the catalyzer works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder? > Answer (Rossi):No > I do not understand what this means. Someone should please rewrite "works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder." Does that mean the powder is homogeneous? What is a

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list... add "emissions seen in the 100keV-300keV range"

2011-04-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mark: > Rossi: No radioactivity has been found in the residual metals, it is true, > but the day after the stop of the operation. In any case you are right, if > 59-Cu is formed from 58-Ni we should have the couples of 511 keV at 180° and > we never found them, while we found keV in the rang

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-13 23:25, Jed Rothwell wrote: I do not understand what this means. Someone should please rewrite "works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder." Does that mean the powder is homogeneous? What is a "homogeneous phase"? Maybe he meant this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogeneous

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > You made me remember that a few weeks ago I started writing down (or more > like, copy/pasting) a list of questions answered by Rossi on his blog . . . Yikes, what a lot of work! When he refuses to answer that may be as telling as when he answers. Some of these respo

[Vo]:Here are the possible steps involved.

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
By the numbers: 1)Start with five linked Mills reactors, or one Rossi E-Cat, divided into 5 segments with programmable controllers. 2)Heat the segments in delayed steps up to a trigger temperature using electrical input energy. At this point, a positive feedback loop is established

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Hey, if he does that, he can close the loop, and get rid of the external > power supply for the heater! You clearly are not paying attention. He cannot. A candle needs a match. T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I do not understand what this means. Someone should please rewrite "works in > a homogeneous phase with nickel powder." Does that mean the powder is > homogeneous? What is a "homogeneous phase"? Probably, "single isotope". T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on Cu isotope ratios; 100-300keV seen.

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Mark Iverson wrote: I don't think this was mentioned yet... Apparently they have seen energetic particles of 100-300keV. The following excerpt from one of the Ny Teknik Q&A sessions with Rossi... "Peter Ekström: In the fusion of a proton with Ni-58 a substantial

Re: [Vo]:Here are the possible steps involved.

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > One of the E-kittens apparently ran for 18 hours, but so one can be sure > since Italian physicists like to dine and sleep. They don't have pizza delivery? Warm pizza regards, T

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: You clearly are not paying attention. He cannot. A candle > needs a match. > A minor detail. They could jump start it with mains electricity and then after the water boils and the steam engine begins turning, disconnect the mains and go to generator only. This is like s

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread Angela Kemmler
20) process can be killed by forced cooling (high water flow) -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Angela Kemmler wrote: > > 20) process can be killed by forced cooling (high water flow) Don't forget Nitrogen injection. Note the N2 tank in his original test. T

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Angela Kemmler wrote: > 20) process can be killed by forced cooling (high water flow) > That probably means sudden cooling or what is called a "thermal shock." Other researchers have said this is one way to quench a reaction. I mean that if you gradually increase the flow rate, I do not think

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to SHIRAKAWA Akira's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:12:59 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Conservatively, I would say 0,01 g/kWh of Ni is the actual demand of Ni >is necessary, even if the mass that really reacts is in the order of >picograms. I think he's talking about actual mass to energy conver

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am going to print Shirakawa-san's list and add some items. I will annotate them "SL" (Shirakawa List) There are some repetitions and many questions Rossi refuses to answer. Lots of interesting stuff too. We could organize this info in a Wiki, with categories: Materials, Operation method, P

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to SHIRAKAWA Akira's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:12:59 +0200: Hi, [snip] >The question is; how can the 6.15MeV mass-energy increase of >62Ni+p->63Cu account for a total binding energy increase of 8.7MeV, and >yet also be exothermic? The difference in *total* binding energy is 6.12 M

Re: [Vo]:A skeptic steps out

2011-04-13 Thread noone noone
When the E-Cat starts being used around the world I hope he will resign from his position in shame, apologize to the world, and crawl into a hole never to be heard from again. From: Jed Rothwell To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 2:12:16 P

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Once again: chemistry is fully conservative. We must always preface these remarks with that. Valence electron manipulation can provide no long term gain via reversible chemistry… but … catch-22, a hybrid process can provide gain at the expe

Re: [Vo]:A skeptic steps out

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
noone noone wrote: When the E-Cat starts being used around the world I hope he will resign from > his position in shame . . . > He won't have to resign. His job is in hot fusion. The whole field will come to an abrupt end. That's why he is so upset! - Jed

[Vo]: DNA can detect spin states...

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Iverson
FYI: "Professor Ron Naaman from the Weizmann Institute in Israel and scientists in Germany discovered that biological molecules in DNA can detect spin states in atoms. The researchers fabricated self-assembling, single layers of DNA attached to a gold substrate. The DNA was exposed to electron

RE: [Vo]:Rossi comments on Cu isotope ratios; 100-300keV seen.

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Horace: Thanks for commenting on the info I sent... I know your 'play-time' is very limited. I'm also quite busy and can only contribute to vortex by posting potential info that you theoretical gurus might be able to use... Perhaps in the future I could help in a more direct way, but for now,

[Vo]:Fukushima Egg

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
I probably shouldn't laugh, but: http://bitsandpieces.us/2011/04/12/big-egg-surprise/?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=10%20Things%20In%20Tech%20You%20Need%20To%20Know&utm_campaign=10ThingsTech_NL_041311 Okay, it's not from Fukushima. Jed can probably tell us what they are saying

[Vo]:Haisch Modell Heat & Rossi

2011-04-13 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
Check out US Patent 7,379,286. It describes obtaining ZPE from cycling a gas in and out of Caimir Cavities. Again, if we discount all the nuclear wishful thinking, this at least explains the heat. The change in the Rossi Ni powder could come from the secret catylysts. This would in itself provi

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
Horace * Jones, it's good to hear someone talk that way! Did you finally read my paper? I read your paper some time ago and may have commented on it when you were "off air" but this is not easy stuff to grasp. The quark connection could materialize in other ways too, but you deserve t

[Vo]:Haisch Modell Heat & Rossi

2011-04-13 Thread francis
Hi Scott, Even though they use unheated noble gases circulated briskly through much larger geometry with less suppression you are correct their method exploits the same "environment" of Rapid Variations in suppression levels. They accumulate energy with what they term a "lamb pinch" (rather tha

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to SHIRAKAWA Akira's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:12:59 +0200: Hi, [snip] >ANSWER: THE PUMP IS A PERISTALTIC PUMP. THE FLOW OF WATER HAS BEEN >MEASURED BEFORE TURNING ON THE REACTOR BY THE PROFESSORS WHO MADE THE >TEST, BY OPENING THE CIRCUIT AND CHRONOMETRING THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list... add "emissions seen in the 100keV-300keV range"

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:30:59 -0500: Hi, [snip] >From Mark: > >> Rossi: No radioactivity has been found in the residual metals, it is true, >> but the day after the stop of the operation. In any case you are right, if >> 59-Cu is formed from 58-Ni

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list... add "emissions seen in the 100keV-300keV range"

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:26:35 +1000: Hi, [snip] I should add that x-rays resulting from these electrons could easily lie in this range. >In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 >16:30:59 -0500: >Hi, >[snip] >>From Mark: >>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Gluck
More probably this means that the "catalyst" is in homogeneous i.e. liquid phase- a solution or a melt which covers the Ni powder (it happens at 350-450 deg Celsius) Peter On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > > > I do

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:17:09 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Could it be due to pesky no-see-um >hydrinos? Or is it possibly due to one of my favorites: alchemy, the >Steam Punk variety! I suspect you have this backwards. Alchemy may well have existed, but h

[Vo]:NATURE

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Veeder
NATURE article compares an unsucessful seismic method for predicting earthquakes to cold fusion: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10105.html "The prediction boom then largely died out, but like many similar examples (such as polywater and cold fusion), die-hard hol

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Patent Problem (and safety/security issues)

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Michael Foster's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >Since nickel, when used as a chemical catalyst, must be subjected to an >elevated pH before adsorption takes place, any number of pretreatments is >possible. ...so coating it with NaOH would not only resu

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace The heavy element LENR explanation is problematic due to no gammas as you are keenly aware. This could be rationalized if there were a few gammas over background, but when you look at the scope shot of Levi’s very sophisticated meter

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com > > At present we find ourselves feverishly speculating: Could the heat be > the result of harnessing a mysterious and not understood casimir > effect? Could it be due to ZPE flagrantly exposing itself out

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote: > >>Harry Veeder wrote: >> >> >>I think it is a great way to fake it. >Okay, what insulator would you use inside the pipe? You need something thin >enough to allow the water through and yet effective at 1 L/s with a 31°C >temperature difference for the apparent 130 kW heat in

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Rossi's device would have to be modified to make the concept of a tube-within-a-tube workable, but IMO a system based on this concept would be more  likely to fool an investor than a system based on a hidden power source. Harry from: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Apri