On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Stephen Cooke
wrote:
If Kaons are produced in these devices it's astonishing to imagine a local
> low energy source generating the same conditions to spawn Phi Mesons from
> nucleons, as the high energy cyclotrons used by DAPhiNE and
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Stephen Cooke
wrote:
"*** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements
> available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? …"
>
> This is not strictly correct. [ ... snip ... ]
>
Ni 62 and Fe 58 would
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Stephen Cooke
wrote:
The alternatives are also hard to explain, however:
>
There is another alternative you didn't mention -- Holmlid has a fertile
imagination and is confused and needs to pull in someone who knows how to
measure
I wrote:
I have not yet looked closely at Holmlid's results, but I don't write them
> off. I'm keeping a distinction in my mind between his experimental
> observations and his theoretical speculations.
>
I have now had a chance to look more closely at Leif Holmlid's 2013 paper,
"Direct
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
I think that it is but is is being sent backward in time.
>
Positrons? Sounds dangerous.
Eric
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from nothing in his
> experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here.
>
If one applies straightforward logic, there are only three possibilities:
- Baryogenesis
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:33, "Jones Beene" wrote:
>
> Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron in
> the case of the antimuon). This is technically not “beta decay” at least not
> as taught by pedantics.
>
I'm not sold on the whole meson ->
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:29 PM, David Roberson wrote:
The Pauli exclusion principle appears to be a rule that captures a portion
> of a deeper underlying physical phenomena. If what I suspect is true then
> one day new particles, etc. will be discovered that do not obey
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:52 PM, CB Sites wrote:
I found that to be a very interesting slide show. Is there an audio/video
> track of the lecture to go with it?
That is from HyperPhysics, a Web site authored largely by Rod Nave, now a
retired physics professor from Georgia
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:05 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Being a skeptic, I have to question the Pauli exclusion principal itself.
> How do we know that it is actually a physical reality? It may have
> appeared true during most of the previous experimentation, but how can we
>
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
This is why polaritons are important in LENR. Polaritons are electrons that
> have be converted into bosons with double the spin.
>
I much prefer when you use multiple colors and stylish fonts.
Eric
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Blaze Spinnaker
wrote:
That's an interesting characterization considering it was Sveinn Ólafsson
> that did the presentation, that Holmlid has had a number of co-authors on
> his papers, that his university has published his press
Hi,
I thought people here might enjoy these images. Here is a picture of the
sun, taken from Super-Kamiokande, the neutrino detector in Japan:
http://strangepaths.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/sun.jpg
Here is the table of elements, with their line spectra included:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
The quark descriptions having +2/3e or -1/3 e charge seems contrived.
Note that the quark description is intimately bound up with the so-called
"resonances," some of which are baryons consisting of different
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Blaze Spinnaker
wrote:
"4. The Ultra-dense hydrogen Leif Holmlid *30+ papers* 2008-2015"
>
Holmlid is kind of a one-man show. See this answer to a question I raised
on Physics.SE sometime back:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
Regarding electrons and positrons in particular, Hotson rightly points out
> that these two particles are fermions. As fermions, they are forbidden to
> be in the same place at the same time, and so cannot
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
That is the energy given off to send the normal space positronium atom into
> a DDL-like minimum energy orbit.
>
If we allow this description, could Jones's discussion of the
quark-antiquark annihilation be
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Protons are fermions. At the LHC, they routinely collide protons. These
> protons are said to disintegrate.
Note as well that the Pauli exclusion principle applies to fermions of the
same kind and quantum numbers. If
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
Does anyone else find these just too incredible to believe?
>
Very much so. I should spend some time looking at the raw data. Holmlid
may have something interesting. His interpretation may have sufficiently
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Mark Jurich wrote:
> Here are the slides for Sveinn’s presentation, courtesy of Sveinn:
>
> http://tempid.altervista.org/SRI.pdf
I'm keeping track of every time potassium is mentioned, as it was in these
slides.
Eric
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
That door could open to more than energy independence.
In this connection, if the induced-decay stuff that Robin and I were
discussing turns out to be a thing, there are definitely military
applications. First one that
A few days ago, I wrote this about the possibility of inducing beta decay
and electron capture in beta-unstable isotopes:
Consider that three-body electron-related decays involve a broadband
> spectrum, and that the primary decay products will carry most of the energy
> (I think) and any
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:21 AM, Stephen Cooke
wrote:
If any was produced we would need to balance this against those the energy
> required for pion production.
>
The amount of energy needed to create a free pion is large; the rest mass
for a pion is ~ 135 MeV.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Stephen Cooke
wrote:
Very true this is also true for the muon which has a rest mass for a pion
> is ~ 106 MeV.
This is one of the reasons I don't think muons are involved either.
Another reason -- if muons were being generated, you'd
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Nevertheless, most of the data of LENR indicate that it is an thermal
> anomaly which is mostly non-nuclear – no gammas or neutrons -- unless
> incidental. That is why the results of Holmlid are so alluring.
Consider that
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
It is well known that the hydrides of group 14 elements produce Rydberg
> matter because of their covalent bond structure(4 bonds). These element
> includes include silicon and carbon.
>
Another interesting tidbit -- both
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> BTW Jack – if memory serves, you used iron oxide and potassium in an early
> experiment which melted the heating wire ...
>
> (a special spillover catalyst called “Shell 105”, used by Holmlid,
> contains iron oxide and
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good question, as I understand there is standing wave fields between the
> shells so the volume is indeed filled up electromagnetically couldn't this
> explain what you are after.
>
The volume in
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
The end result is that you get a 6 digit match between calculated and
> meassured ionisation energy for Hydrogene and similar accuracy for the one
> electron ions.
>
I assume this a claim that goes back to
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Both of you appear to be off by a factor of 1000 and this paper does not
> deal with large clusters anyway.
>
> And most importantly - this was a simulation.
As soon as I realized the paper was a theoretical calculation,
Hi,
The article on pilot waves is interesting. De Broglie's and Bohm's thesis
suggests that there are possibly viable alternatives to the Copenhagen
interpretation. The Copenhagen school seem to have turned an
epistemological problem into an ontological one (that is to say, they
turned a
Hi Jack,
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Jack Cole wrote:
My conclusion at this point is that nickel and LiAlH4 does not reliably
> produce excess heat, and if it does at all, it is rare.
Do you know if any of the replicators have been including potassium or
vanadium in
Hi Bob,
You seem to be describing a kind of nuclear "band," where there are so many
nuclear levels from participating nuclei that they merge into a band
analogous to a band in a semiconductor, and the energy levels lose their
distinctness and become continuous.
How do the nuclei communicate with
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
In short (at the risk of being repetitive) ... this theory is an
> embarrassment to the two guys who proposed it since they did not recognize
> the insurmountable problems.
I don't know. I think it's kind of an
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
I think it is appropriate for forums such as Vortex-L to debate the value
> of new papers.
>
I agree. I wasn't criticizing your very apt points. I was just commenting
on the decision of the authors to propose the
the main
proposed reaction. (And a gamma photon with every other neutron capture.)
I also think neutrons would be a problem, but they're not discussed below.
Eric
> Bob Cook
>
> *From:* Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:41 PM
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Maybe the intent is to shame Mats – or Rossi, or the whole field by
> promoting a spoof? Can you rule this out?
Maybe. That possibility brings to mind this incident, where a fake article
written by a physics professor
I wrote:
Only after this first step is the energy debt paid back in a second step
> involving the exothermic neutron capture reaction (which would be
> accompanied by deexcitation gammas).
>
Note that there's two sources of gammas. There's the gamma that is
released during the reaction (Robin's
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
I believe the authors know what they are about.
>
The authors approach the energy balance problem in two steps, and the first
step is extremely endothermic. It's pretty difficult to separate a neutron
from 7Li or d and
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, David Roberson wrote:
The concepts they discuss are interesting, but I find it extremely
> difficult to believe that neutrons are released freely at low energy.
Agreed. Free neutrons are a huge problem if they were occurring. They are
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:33 PM, wrote:
Generally speaking the fission barrier gets lower as the element gets
> heavier,
> which is why 235U can be split with a single neutron.
>
Bob (Cook),
In your days working with/in connection with nuclear reactors, were there
any
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
This is NOT a measured ENERGY. If he also measured the energy, then he
> could have solved for the particle mass and would have had a much easier
> time identifying the particle. IF - you PRESUME that the particle is
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
This is NOT a measured ENERGY. If he also measured the energy, then he
> could have solved for the particle mass and would have had a much easier
> time identifying the particle. IF - you PRESUME that the particle is
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
When nanoparticles that are comprised of a thausand atoms explode due to
> coulomb explosion, they produce 1.5 MeV. Look it up...
>
I wasn't aware that "Coulomb explosions" were a thing -- thank you for
pointing this out.
If
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
http://www.google.com/patents/US3977191
>
> The AIROPS engine is a noble gas engine like the Papp engine.
>
I noticed that Robert Gordon Britt, the author of the patent, did not refer
to Papp's patents as prior art. I was
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
Without the lattice that receives and directs the EMF into the nanopowder,
> a powerful light source such as a laser will be powerful enough to produce
> LENR in just nanopowder alone.
> This particular behavior was observed
I wrote:
Needless to say, if the particles end up being resolved to baryons, we're
> dealing with energies that correspond to nuclear reactions.
>
I take that back -- your point was that they're normalized masses and not
particle energies. Point grasped now. :) (I'm a little slow today.)
Eric
I wrote:
If he knew our trick, one of these naturally occurring isotopes might
> have done the trick:
>
Since tungsten is in the list, and in our day to day experience it does not
decay under alpha decay when we excited it with electrons, I'm guessing the
Q value has to be above a certain
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
It seems like a reciprocating Papp engine would need to have a cyclic
> pressurization, not something the continually increases pressure as you are
> describing. I thought the reported mechanism had a way to catalyze
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In the model of infinitesimally thin orbitspheres with a charge
> distribution >described by spherical harmonics, how does Mills account for
> electron >degeneracy levels? Are they explained by having
I wrote:
Interesting speculation: when Feynman pulled the power chord on the engine
> and it continued to run, what he disabled was a coolant system.
>
I suppose he might have both pulled a power cord and a power chord.
Eric
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:58 PM, David Roberson wrote:
We need a better understanding of exactly what happens to a gas which
> undergoes a rapid increased to particle numbers followed by a return to it
> initial composition in this type of environment.
>
I was thinking in
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:42 PM, wrote:
..so Feynman pulled the plug on a non-existent engine, that then can't
> possibly
> have exploded (because it didn't exist), and hence there was no ensuing
> court
> case? ;)
>
I think the question that history will be the judge of is
been present as
well.
Would such a process be sufficient to explain what was going on -- volumetric
expansion and little heat?
Eric
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 22:25, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I typed up some notes that come from an email e
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, David Roberson wrote:
> Normal gasoline engines operate on the high pressure gases that are
> generated when the fuel burns causing an increase to its temperature.
Since there was no exhaust outlet in the Papp engine, I wonder whether
a
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> According to the HRM, the process develops in
> three steps: a photon (in this case, the 24 MeV internalized photon) knocks
> a quark from the nucleon; the struck quark rescatters off a quark from
> another nucleon; then
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:30 PM, wrote:
> I doubt there was enough of it (but I'm just guessing).
If he knew our trick, one of these naturally occurring isotopes might
have done the trick:
142Ce 143Nd 144Nd 145Nd 146Nd 147Sm
148Nd 148Sm 149Sm 150Sm 152Gd
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:03 PM, wrote:
> The real question is where did the energy come from to create the plasma?
In the scenario we're considering here, the energy came from the
induced decay of an alpha emitter that was introduced into the Papp
engine.
Eric
Hi,
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
No it is not arbritary. It is a simple matter to prove that these charge
> distribution would lead to non radiation for certain internal standing
> waves.
>
The orbitsphere is proposed to be an
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
If you magnify it large enough I'm sure you will see some structure, maybe
> a thickness. But to a practical approximation I think a zero thickness is
> fine.
> I believe that what matter is is a singular
Hi,
I typed up some notes that come from an email exchange between Robin
and myself. They are about the possibility of the forced "decay" of
isotopes that do not normally undergo alpha decay (emission of a
helium-4 nucleus).
Eric
This briefly describes a possible alpha decay channel in
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
Now really what you have in Mills is Re(Ylm(e)exp(iwt) but that means that
> this photon field inside
> the orbitsphere is a standing wave.
>
If I understand this, it appears to be the orbitsphere with
Hi,
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
j_l(|w|/c r)Ylm(e)exp(iwt), with e the spherical part of x, and r the
> radial part.
Here you are using spherical harmonics -- Ylm(e). These are implicitly
disavowed by Mills, who offers instead the
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Even the neutrino, another "invented particle" has been shown to have a
> real identity, having once served the same purpose, which is as
> place-holder, in the past. Not the quark.
This may be true. But the iconoclast
gt; reaction types?
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:55 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For comparison, Rossi stated his current theory in a recent int
What you say is interesting and possibly explains something of the economic
considerations relating to nickel that go into the E-Cat. What caught my
interest in the lack of detail about nickel in the patent application cited
below went back to the earlier thread on the reliability of the
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:53 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint
wrote:
"... a number of more interesting effects." What could be MORE interesting
> than excess heat/low energy nuclear reactions???
Some questions are better left unasked. One of the sisters could be
Pandora.
Eric
nsition metals will host LENR - some with more radiation output than
> others. Proof that in Pd(Rh)-D that the reaction was not D-D would also be
> cool.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:5
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:55 PM, a.ashfield wrote:
For comparison, Rossi stated his current theory in a recent interview.
>
> "“My theory is that a proton from a hydrogen atom enters, by the quantum
> tunneling effect, into a nucleus of Li-7 (i.e., a lithium nucleus of
I wrote:
> In other words, the lack of mention is a small piece of circumstantial
> evidence in support of your hunch that 62Ni was added before the blank run
> for no obvious operational reason (e.g., so that the ash analysis would be
> compromised). Not a smoking gun by any means, but
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
You don’t see any quarks.
I believe this ad hoc result falls under the notion of "color confinement,"
meaning you don't find partial color charge in the wild. Instead you get a
"hadron jet" of quark-antiquark pairs, whose
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:01 AM, David Roberson wrote:
I consider this oscillator behavior an excellent additional indication of
> proof that the Rossi effect is taking place during the experiment.
Please forgive my ignorance of your thought experiment. Couldn't
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Teslaalset
wrote:
The Ni62 amendments to US2009125444 were sent to the patent office in April
> 2013 while Rossi’s patent US9115913B1 originated as filing in March 2012.
> US91159B1 does not mention specifically Ni62 in the claims,
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
I don't consider this to be subterfuge on Rossi's behalf. I don't think he
> ever agreed to full open access to everything from his design.
>
If that is the case, please remind me never to do business with you! Trust
It sounds like there could be a legal house of cards, then, if deception is
shown during a patent suit. I remember a recent patent application by
Rossi whose description seemed to incorporate large portions of the Lugano
report as evidence. I was wondering whether the isotope analysis was
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This just in. See:
>
>
> http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/387-Parkhomov-Soshi-20150930-English-1-pdf/
>
These comparisons are interesting. But it's pretty unsatisfying that all
tests but the Lugano
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:20 PM, wrote:
Try starting out with radioactive nuclei, and ending up with stable nuclei.
> That
> should swing the tide in your favour. Often removing a neutron from an
> unstable
> nucleus will make it stable, and adding a proton to another
ested particles in the
> acid. ICP-MS does not analyze the materials while still in the reactor
> like some sort of MRI. AES is an optical emission spectrum measurement on
> the excited plasma that feeds the mass spectrometer in the ICP machine -
> testing the same digested particles.
&g
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
Abstract: EUV radiation in the 10-30 nm region observed only arising from
> very low energy pulsed pinch gas discharges comprising some hydrogen first
> at BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) and reproduced at the Harvard Center for
>
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
As I was translating Parkhomov's paper this morning, I was struck by the
> fact that the other researchers are not seeing any isotopic movement in the
> Ni in their experiments, while they are seeing minor shifts in the
There is an interesting article at E-Cat World today, which summarized
information submitted by AlainCo, who I believe is a regular on Vortex as
well:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/09/30/piantelli-european-patent-revoked/
It seems that one of Piantelli's European LENR patents [1] has been
Before Robin corrects my numbers, I have fixed them myself, and, re-running
the same scenarios, the reactions are, without exception, endothermic!
Even taking into account subsequent decays. (There's something mysterious
in that.)
I guess that's one way to disqualify a potential theory. My
Hi,
I just read about an interesting characteristic of the nucleon-nucleon
interaction (e.g., the scattering of a proton with a neutron or a proton
with a proton or a neutron with a neutron). I wonder whether this
characteristic is behind what we've been referring to here as "neutron
tunneling"
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM, wrote:
...However I does raise an interesting possibility. Might 2 radioactive
> nuclei
> utilize pion exchange to both become stable?
>
My initial thought was that the change would result in a very short-lived
radioisotope which would decay
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM, wrote:
This would change the Li7 into Be7 and e.g. the Ni58 into Co58. The
> reaction as
> a whole is endothermic, and both Be7 & Co58 are radioactive.
>
The endothermic part is problematic. That suggests that 7Li is not
involved. I wonder
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM, wrote:
...However I does raise an interesting possibility. Might 2 radioactive
> nuclei
> utilize pion exchange to both become stable?
>
Yet another possibility -- the pion exchange happens simultaneously with
the decay of the light isotope
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
Is it possible to take this non-conventional "understanding" of the nucleus
> and apply it to the interaction you are describing?
>
Possibly. It seems related. It seems like an implication would be that we
would
I've worked out a simple model, and here are some reactions:
$ python scripts/reactions.py "Li+Cu, Li+Fe, Li+Ni, d+Cu, d+Fe, d+Ni, d+Li"
--model pion-exchange
d + 61Ni → 2·p + 62Ni + 1082 keVn-transfer, stable
d + 57Fe → 2·p + 58Fe + 531 keV
I wrote:
I'm guessing that all of these reactions are only energetic if the pion
> exchange occurs simultaneously with the decay to lighter daughters, as is
> being modeled here.
>
This turns out not to have been true. A followup check indicated that
there were several reactions in the earlier
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/608126/Nasa-s-Mars-announcement-Monday-water-on-mars-life-on-mars
Does anyone know how they get images like this one?
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
1) Muons, as the output of LENR, rather elegantly explain the lack of
> gammas and neutrons in many if not all past low energy experiments...
Can you elaborate on research showing that muon-catalyzed fusion lacks
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
However, with deuterium densification, Holmlid seems to suggest muons form
> as a replacement for gammas – and which then go on to catalyze the next
> round. This is massive synergy.
It's possible that the ultradense
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
More likely it will be severely edited, data-free, unverified and almost
> meaningless.
I think we'd be foolish to bet otherwise. (Still interested in learning
more about the brushed-up details.)
Eric
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
wrote:
The idea that cold fusion doesn't involve hydrogen infused metal is just
> end-of-times for these people.
>
It's really hard to sort out what is known from what is conjecture. There
are some careful
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Anyone who witnesses a bona fide the Papp replication attempt (not the
> “popper” LOL) … often comments that the engine runs cold. Why? It is part
> of the M.O.
It would be a mistake to lump the poppers from the two
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Lawrence de Bivort
wrote:
Let's say that the kid's clock looked like a Hollywood bomb.
>
Yes, let's acknowledge this simple point, for our own credibility. Let's
go further for the sake of completeness -- it's missing the explosives.
The
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Alain Sepeda
wrote:
if someone with notion of electronics says that it looks like a bomb, I
> remove even his bachelor of science immediately.
>
You and Jed have both missed the point. The skill that went into the thing
has nothing to
uot; anti-women,
> anti-Arab, anti-Muslim….it is a long list, but at its heart these "nuances"
> are there to justify anti-"anyone not exactly like me."
>
> Lawry
>
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> I disagree. The concerns would have vanished, if not had been greatly
> reduced.
>
You guys appear to be forgetting the Columbine high school massacre.
Eric
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
Ahmed gets his revenge in TIME Magazine:
> http://time.com/4038305/ahmed-mohamed-clock-mit/?xid=newsletter-brief
The biggest tragedy is that Ahmed appears to have failed to learn an
important
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