Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:43 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: John, Let's think about the magnetic field analysis first since that is relatively easy to visualize. First, I think that we are in agreement that a magnetic field generated as a consequence of the motion of a charged

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
for localizing electrons, quantum mechanic is or better...quantum electrodynamics. Use the proper tool for the proper job. This Mills like discussion is not productive just like the results of this type of thinking. Use tennis balls... On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:26 PM, John Berry berry.joh

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
of time to discuss other issues as they arise out of a common understanding. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law On Thu, Feb

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: John, Eric is right about the constancy of c being a *postulate* from which time-dilation and length contraction are derived. However, that doesn't discount your thought experiments as a way of probing the coherence of

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
that the electrons moving in the wire should see the protons (net positive relative moving charge) in the other wire as moving past them, and hence making a magnetic field that they should feel an attractive force from? And if not, then why not? John Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
and walks back to his friend so that they can compare the time on their watches. Which watch is ahead? Using the principles of SR I can come up with contradictory answers. harry Harry On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:45 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
identical) is if each one interacts with a photon that occurs only in their reference frame. But this idea has problems as a photon could be avoided, or 'met' twice (or more) with changes in velocity. John On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
Axil, who are you asking? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Intense EMF will breakdown the vacuum, electric fields produce electron/positron particle pairs that do not immediately self-annihilate; intense magnetic fields produce mesons out of the vacuum.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
But Terry, but are these epo's moving? Do they occur with a random velocity relative to light speed? If so they could be anywhere from stationary to 99.% of the speed of light, with the latter being about as likely as the former. But the evidence seems to point to them being largely

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The muon experiments show time dilation in operation. Once I calculated the equivalent velocity of the muon assuming that time dilation did not exist. I obtained a velocity of IIRC about 10 times the speed of light.

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: Why not first consider the speed of electromagnetic wave propagation as either being constant or not regardless of the motion of the reference

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 9:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: OK, I can use tennis balls just

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:59 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Ok, so time dilation must have occurred for the muon, it moved through the reference frame of the lab and lasted longer because of it. But the Muon was not conscious, carried no instrumentation and surely had no

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:16 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Like you I have harbored the idea of an ether that is local. I just can not find a reason to assume any ether at all. There are many reasons, there is quite a lot of evidence actually, actually a lot especially if you

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
discussing your ideas. I'll have a look, thanks. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 11:42 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:16 PM, David Roberson dlrober

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
5:42 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I am not sure that this will get anywhere but I can answer the question according to what I would expect. So if you were moving with the electrons/neg-balls, would you see a magnetic field from the protons/pos-balls in the other wire/pipe?

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:51 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I figured that you were attempting to set some sort of trap. :-) Take the time to figure out what I have described and you will understand that every observer has a valid viewpoint that depends upon his relative motion.

Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
The second phi is the same as the 3rd symbol font phi in chrome. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:20 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: The one that is giving me trouble is phi a circle with a line though it. This is what Greek has: φ Φ They are not quite right. Here it is in symbol font.

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
electron. This is similar to us looking at two electrons that are in motion within an accelerator. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 3:13 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
of the other electron. This is similar to us looking at two electrons that are in motion within an accelerator. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 3:13 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent

[Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
Originally the aether was thought to exist, but it was hoped the earth would move though it rather than entrain it, maybe as a continued departure from earth centric thinking, or more likely because a static aether was far more simple than trying to understand an aether that was entrained to some

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
? John On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:21 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Originally the aether was thought to exist, but it was hoped the earth would move though it rather than entrain it, maybe as a continued departure from earth centric thinking, or more likely because a static

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:27 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: John, you make a lot of interesting arguments, but special relativity always seems to come through with the right answers. Mostly true, but it gives the same answers as an entrained aether. Remember that SR is largely

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:39 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: Also, I would genuinely like to know if anyone disagrees with my arguments, or fails to understand them. I had a hard time following your

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
to their instruments while all the other observers in motion relative to them measure otherwise. It is a fun exercise trying to prove special relativity is wrong, but you will eventually come to the realization that it is correct. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
-Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 7:46 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:14 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: Harry, I see your objection and I

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
where it has failed and these cases are consistent with an entrained aether, apparently GPS satellite systems show such issues.* Can you say more about GPS satellite systems an their issues with the aether or provide a reference. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:35 AM, John Berry berry.joh

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:37 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: Ok, let's keep it really simple. Can you explain how a moving 'train' could measure the velocity of the same photon/s as a stationary observer

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-18 Thread John Berry
mistaken on all of this since I have largely ignored the subject so I am sure i could be schooled on this point. John On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:07 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: Dave, I think the simple answer is to recognize that a magnetic field only exists due to motion

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-17 Thread John Berry
David, if the electrons do not see that in their world view, then the second one is hardly exposed to something that does not exist for it. Every electrically charged object has in other reference frames various magnetic fields, the axis and direction of the magnetic field is decided by the

Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

2014-02-16 Thread John Berry
And on Chrome. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: I get greek: running thunderbird on windows 7 Nigel On 16/02/2014 06:36, H Veeder wrote: This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into this message are preserved as they

Re: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

2014-02-16 Thread John Berry
I have long considered another quantum means of instantaneous communication. Partial reflection (like oil film on water) depends on the thickness of the partially reflective layer. If the thickness increases a little the dominant reflected frequency shifts and this occurs in cycles, with no

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread John Berry
David, if I understand you, you are talking about if 2 co-moving electrons should be attracted or repelled? In a wire it seems that it would be correct to model the electromagnetic field created by the 'stationary' protons which are moving from the electrons POV. This carries an additional

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread John Berry
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: What is the source of the magnetism? Motion of the electrons through an electromagnetic reference frame in violation of SR? If only moving electrons are considered, and no static charges exist. Harry On Sun, Feb 16,

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread John Berry
In his model the coloumb force between two like charges increases when the charges are moving together and decreases when they are moving apart. This would lead to a few interesting conclusions if true. In a current carrying wire, stationary electrons in the wire would would face increased

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread John Berry
could compress in front and stretch out the back. But this would lead to induction opposite to the norm. Can anyone explain how this force could have gone unobserved? Are these arguments flawed? John On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:59 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: In his model

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-14 Thread John Berry
It would make sense, a Doppler like effect is very reasonable with electric fields. Now if this is so, it is very possible that gravity could be explained this way. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:09 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery and other vortex members, Today I learned

Re: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

2014-02-14 Thread John Berry
Could the longitudinal displacement be instantaneous, while the transverse is limited to C? There reminds me of a conundrum that occurs with magnetic fields especially if one does not consider vector analysis. If a current is passed through a large hoop coil suddenly (current quickly reaching a

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread John Berry
The creation of charge? The creation of electrons? Any FE device that does this is wasting energy by manifesting matter. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread John Berry
did. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: The creation of charge? The creation of electrons? Any FE device that does this is wasting energy by manifesting matter. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://peswiki.com

[Vo]:Aetheric images - Please read if you didn't feel anything last time - Be brave, give it a try!

2014-02-08 Thread John Berry
Hi, some of you may remember that I designed images that I claim effect the background energy of space (aether, dark matter/energy, higgs field, quantum foam) to the point of being felt by most people. Some people have felt the energy and inquired about why they can feel something hitting them

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric images - Please read if you didn't feel anything last time - Be brave, give it a try!

2014-02-08 Thread John Berry
Slight improvement: http://imageshack.com/a/img191/665/0o55.png On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:15 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, some of you may remember that I designed images that I claim effect the background energy of space (aether, dark matter/energy, higgs field, quantum

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric images - Please read if you didn't feel anything last time - Be brave, give it a try!

2014-02-08 Thread John Berry
://imageshack.com/a/img713/8647/megf.png Place your palm to the right side of your monitor in-line with the long string of methologies used in this one. Alternately feel the front of the screen. John On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:54 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Slight improvement: http

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric images

2014-02-08 Thread John Berry
The energy it stirs up can persist for a while. If these spots are where various parts of the image are, it is more likely you are feeling a non-physical energy effected by the images. John On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: Some areas feel warmer than

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric images - Please read if you didn't feel anything last time - Be brave, give it a try!

2014-02-08 Thread John Berry
to run double blind controls over the internet. Why don't you? On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:15 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, some of you may remember that I designed images that I claim effect the background energy of space (aether, dark matter/energy, higgs field, quantum foam

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric images - Please read if you didn't feel anything last time - Be brave, give it a try!

2014-02-08 Thread John Berry
analyze the data. Better yet, outsiders can inspect the data and supply their own interpretations. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so have 2 images, one active and one inactive. See if people can establish which is which? Good idea, I will mock

[Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

2014-02-04 Thread John Berry
Except for when I have written it, I have never seen the words Magnetism doesn't exist written. But this confuses me because while the illusion of magnetism is pretty convincing we can all agree the expected forces in any magnetic situation are electric at each end (magnetic fields are created by

Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

2014-02-04 Thread John Berry
is an illusion created by electric fields being unmasked by the distorting effects of motion is certainly not saying motion is an illusion. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:42 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:25 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Except for when I

[Vo]:Superconductors and voltage

2014-02-04 Thread John Berry
While looking at reviews for Caver A. Mead's book, I read a review that said he made a mistake including voltage in a calculation for superconductors. Now I think that there must be voltage of a type in superconductors, there are 2 types of voltage. One is the voltage drop across a conductor.

Re: [Vo]:Superconductors and voltage

2014-02-04 Thread John Berry
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: While looking at reviews for Caver A. Mead's book, I read a review that said he made a mistake including voltage in a calculation for superconductors. Now I think that there must be voltage of a type in

Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

2014-02-04 Thread John Berry
in motion, if SR is correct then a magnetic field that occurs in one reference frame does not occur in a co-moving frame. Magnetic fields are a useful fiction, but hardly real. John On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:58 PM, John Berry

Re: [Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread John Berry
John R. Huizenga, then Sven Kullander and now Emilio del Giudice. It would seem to be a bad time to be older and on either side of LENR. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Cold fusion has lost a good friend: professor Emilio del Giudice (born 1940) has

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread John Berry
It is likely that the exact value of the fine structure constant is not significant as it appears to change based on energy (1/128 at 80 GEV) and seems to vary over time. So 137 might be a decent integer approximation of a value that changes under varying circumstances. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-24 Thread John Berry
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: 43%? Are you sure? I think it should be 51.8%. Then again, depending on his grades at Yale, maybe only 47.53%. Just spitballing here . . . but I don't see where you came up with 43%. - Jed While naturally some

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-23 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:12 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It is enlightening to consider the structure of the universe and the many wonders that it reveals to us. Keep asking the right questions and you will find appropriate answers. I have observed the behavior of

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-23 Thread John Berry
AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:36 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: There wasn't a law for the conservation of mass when the CoE was proposed, but probably only because it would have seemed obvious. Conservation of mass was proposed

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread John Berry
Still Feynman obstructed Papp from operating a device that Feynman did not understand. By doing so he essentially became fully responsible for anything the machine does due to the power being disconnected for too long. It was only Feynman's cynicism that would not have him plug it back in despite

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread John Berry
David, you show a most annoying circular reasoning trap. First you fail to recognize the obvious resistance to a product that will put oil and energy companies out of business, one of the biggest there is. Next you say that you would require an extraordinary level of evidence to believe in it.

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Sorry John. You are correct about what you say to a certain extent. How much resistance do you think the general public would exhibit to owning a vehicle that runs virtually for free? Virtually zero, BUT that is the

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread John Berry
the CoE was proposed, but probably only because it would have seemed obvious. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:10 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: Sorry John. You are correct about what you say to a certain extent

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread John Berry
that have billions of possible outcomes every millisecond, this would split off universes in a perhaps more rapid way than happens with natural phenomena. (or not?) Hastening the quantum apocalypse! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Here are some thoughts

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-06 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: Porn and Gambling are pretty much equivalent, moral wise. Porn has good sides, both demystifying the human body and sexuality and providing a source of sexual outlet when otherwise there might be few good options.

Re: [Vo]:Even-Even fission means photo fission.

2013-12-24 Thread John Berry
Huh, the subject line sounds like a pun, it's even-even so it's a photon fission. And it's nickel 62 by a neutron! I didn't expect it to be serious. All the dumb money in that race was on too hot to trot and donut daze On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:[Distraction] The Science News Cycle

2013-12-22 Thread John Berry
How is this a cycle though? Unless grandma funds more research into the subject... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1174

Re: [Vo]:A bibliography of the Electrically Exploded Conductor Phenomenon

2013-12-19 Thread John Berry
That doesn't work for me. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: A bibliography of the Electrically Exploded Conductor Phenomenon, Fourth Edition William G. Chace Eleanor M. Watson October 1967

Re: [Vo]:A bibliography of the Electrically Exploded Conductor Phenomenon

2013-12-19 Thread John Berry
I was using chrome, so I tried FF and then IE, and still it can't resolve the domain. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't work for me. Look carefully at your browser. It is probably saving

Re: [Vo]:A bibliography of the Electrically Exploded Conductor Phenomenon

2013-12-19 Thread John Berry
, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote: Works for me. There, I shortened it: http://tinyurl.com/lyxu8f9 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I was using chrome, so I tried FF and then IE, and still it can't resolve the domain

Re: [Vo]:A bibliography of the Electrically Exploded Conductor Phenomenon

2013-12-19 Thread John Berry
communications, or work product, related to personal representation or services by attorneys, psychotherapists, or clergy, and their assistants. Such communications and work product are private and confidential. See User Agreement for details. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM, John Berry berry.joh

Re: [Vo]:Astronomy Cast discusses cold fusion

2013-12-11 Thread John Berry
I believe the problem with fringe subjects is that the focus goes of the end results and does not focus on the underlying physics. If you just chase an effect that is not really understood thoroughly enough, then what you end up getting looks more like magic than science. Complete with

Re: [Vo]:What if we live in a simulated reality?

2013-11-28 Thread John Berry
It is also possible the universe is just a dream, or a shared hallucination. Maybe all our memories are manufactured and we have not been on this earth and list for x number of years, we may only have implanted memories and started 'fresh' this morning. Many far out and improbable things can be

Re: [Vo]:What if we live in a simulated reality?

2013-11-26 Thread John Berry
The aether, cold fusion, antigravity, free energy is all crazy talk. But maybe reality is a simulation because some movies were made depicting this, well that's totally sensible. Since that isn't a threat to the status quo. Of course the pre-pre-pre-pre matrix version of this were the Gnostics.

Re: [Vo]:What if we live in a simulated reality?

2013-11-26 Thread John Berry
Paradox. That is, where are the aliens? Perhaps there aren't any, because the simulator can only really do earth and that's it. It's like the star trek holodeck, you walk outside the deck and you vanish. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:06 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: The aether

Re: [Vo]:What if we live in a simulated reality?

2013-11-26 Thread John Berry
in space.aether/higgs field that allows different qualities for reality? John On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:01 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: That is still ridiculous. What evidence would you expect there to be for aliens that is absent, except for totally open public exposure/disclosure

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-24 Thread John Berry
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze, that kind of thing was one of the things I was alluding to. The stuff that is now openly admitted to as 'Old News' is horrific. It was not that horrific. Not like

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-24 Thread John Berry
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: It was not that horrific. Not like a war, or a thermonuclear bomb. Have a sense of proportion! In many ways it is worse. No question the loss of life is less, but even

[Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
This is may seem kinda far out, but it claims that a nuclear false flag attack was going to take place in Washington to start a war with Syria. And the MP's were going to arrest Obama.

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: This doesn't just seem kinda far out. It IS far out. Far, far out. Farther out than the Voyager 1 spacecraft. Ok, but the problem here is that you have limits to what you will give serious consideration. While I know

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: The scary part is that intelligent people would consider this claim even plausible when the idea is obviously the hallucination of an insane mind. Of course the government lies, of course it does bad things, of course

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
Jed, do you believe that if you were in countries that had insane governments, and you were raised in that culture and had a normal degree of faith in that government. Would you have seen them as insane? Hindsight is 20/20, you would not fall for that would you? And if it was 1962 and operation

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree, if you are twisted, and want the power of fear over people to control them with more draconian measures and to start a war because you want people to support

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Jed, do you believe that if you were in countries that had insane governments, and you were raised in that culture and had a normal degree of faith in that government. Would

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
The most interesting and somewhat topic relevant portion of this discussion is that of why belief systems that support trust in leadership, authority and beliefs that support general social cohesion are likely to be strongly selected in evolutionary terms. If you are likely to go against the

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread John Berry
. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:24 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: The most interesting and somewhat topic relevant portion of this discussion is that of why belief systems that support trust in leadership

[Vo]:The lighter side of WWIII

2013-09-20 Thread John Berry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ Very funny.

[Vo]:False Flag attack on Israel plot discovered...

2013-09-10 Thread John Berry
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/urgent-false-flag-involving-israel-to.html

[Vo]:Global warming...

2013-09-10 Thread John Berry
First I saw this, how attractive to think that maybe global warming isn't happening... http://www.naturalnews.com/041981_global_warming_computer_models_cooling.html But that seemed like a fantasy, and I saw:

Re: [Vo]:Global warming...

2013-09-10 Thread John Berry
The difference surely is the motive? Much of the money raised by Green Peace and WWF is donated by hard working individuals altruistically to protect the earth ans all life forms on it. Money donated by these groups is out of self interest to continue polluting for profit. If that seems the

Re: [Vo]:Global warming...

2013-09-10 Thread John Berry
As was I, or at least I meant to. Gmail hides the quoted text and I was not careful enough to reply to the right email. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: I was answering Alain. 2013/9/10 John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com The difference surely

[Vo]:Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, Mairead Maguire visited Syria and discovered that the U.S. is funding violent groups that do not want peace in Syria.

2013-09-09 Thread John Berry
Syria: Nobel Peace Laureate Tells Her Account of What She Witnessed http://tinyurl.com/ntqu9pa 7 min. video Nobel Peace Prize laurete, Mairead Maguire visited Syria and discovered that the U.S. is funding violent groups that do not want peace in Syria. Thousands fled from Syria because foreign

[Vo]:Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria

2013-08-31 Thread John Berry
Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria http://tinyurl.com/oj8g53t 11 min. video Respected 20 year Middle Eastern reporter and Associated Press, BBC and NPR correspondent Dale Gavrak was told by Syrian rebels that they were responsible for last week's chemical weapons incident in Ghouta.

Re: [Vo]:Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria

2013-08-31 Thread John Berry
The Germans wouldn't send a bunch or murders to Poland to attack Germany either. But then again they did And even though it was obvious to anyone sensible and unbiased, world war II still happened. And even though everyone who had 2 brain cells to rub together knew that the coalition of the

Re: [Vo]:Syrian gas attacks...

2013-08-27 Thread John Berry
The thing that should be concerning is that a country as powerful as the US (and spends so insanely much on toys for warfare) ever looks for, makes up, provides chemical weapons as pretexts to get into war (which is hardly new). Seriously if we were to think of this as a person it would be a nut

[Vo]:Syrian gas attacks...

2013-08-26 Thread John Berry
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/leaked-britam-defense-syrian-documents-download This makes a strong case indeed for the attacks being a pretence for war. 464MB of emails and other documents obtained by a hacker from Britam Defense. John

Re: [Vo]:Caveman Science Committee Concludes Fire Does Not Exist

2013-07-02 Thread John Berry
Others claimed to be able to start fires from drops of water. But this was tried with lots of water, and under cover to stop the wind blowing out any flames or the sun drying out the water drops. There was no success there either. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-26 Thread John Berry
I am not 100% sure, but I think an AC meter would read a current from such fluctuating DC, I might be wrong, easy to test, but I am moving house soon so my equipment is packed away, but some AC meters such as clamp meters should still give an AC reading, as for an AC volt meter I am unsure, maybe,

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-26 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: When will they finally realize that Rossi may have something? They always knew he might, but they are skeptics and will always oppose any advancement or change until it is over one way or the other. Who expects to

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-26 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: When will they finally realize that Rossi may have something? They always knew he might . . . I doubt that. I cannot read minds, but I get a sense that Shanahan, Nate

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-26 Thread John Berry
Question: If skeptics really do not believe that something is possible, then why must they fight so hard to defend reality from such an ill conceived notion? Especially when something like cold fusion clearly could not be believed for long if funded and embraced and it turned out to be entirely

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-25 Thread John Berry
It depends of the magnitude of the DC in relation to the AC. If the DC bias was equal to the AC peak voltage, then the current would not reverse. And the peak voltage in the biased direction would have doubled. Doubling the voltage quadruples the power, also the DC component could be much

[Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread John Berry
Ok, Maybe no one is ready, since I have had zero testers give results positive or negative. But I want to give this a fresh chance due to apparent technical difficulties the first time, excuse my persistence. http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7185/xens.png

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