Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-26 Thread Rich Murray
a legitimate theoretical speculation and possibly valid lines of actual evidence are given by astrophysicist Robert Foot and a few collaborators for about a decade for mirror matter, which interacts fully with itself, but only about a part in a million with ordinary matter for electromagnetic

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-25 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Can you read English? Please show me where I was advocating one of those dubious breakthroughs! I wasn’t advocating anything. How you got that notion from my posting is a mystery to me! **

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-25 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
in the CF case we are likely dealing with quantum mechanical interactions, and this could also be involved in the latter cases. -mark From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 12:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-25 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mary wrote: “If I call you to come see I can fly and I sit there and flap my arms, and I do this or different people do this a hundred times, are you going to come the hundredth and first?   The example

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-25 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish) On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mary wrote: “If I call you to come see I can fly and I sit there and flap my arms, and I do this or different people do

[Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3352744.ece/BINARY/Kullander_lecture_23nov.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Jouni Valkonen
It was boring, that Kullander used sodium cooled fast reactor as an example of 4th gen nuclear power, because it is probably inherently failed concept. LFTR is way better concept, because there is required much less manufacturing and reprocessing nuclear fuel. Also he seem to be still out of

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
OH! I think there is a little bit of new information! Take a look at page 50! Data on 6 old experiments. But, I didn't understand something. Eric Lerner never talked anything about LENR, as far as I know, see page 58. In fact, Eric aims to work with fusion 7000x hotter than what is found in

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Maybe there will be an English translation. In the meantime, can anyone tell me if Kullander addresses the superb concerns and excellent measurement methods proposed by Grabowski et al (US Naval Research Laboratory) here? http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GrabowskiKrobustperf.pdf I think everyone

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
That Melich, in the paper, is Rossi's friend, tested the ecats, in 2009, I think, and it is an enemy of Krivit. Krivit hates that guy. Krivit, 1 day after the first test in January, noticed that he was associated with Rossi, and since that very moment, he showed a negative attitude towards Rossi.

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: That Melich, in the paper, is Rossi's friend, tested the ecats, in 2009, I think, and it is an enemy of Krivit. Krivit hates that guy. Krivit, 1 day after the first test in January, noticed that he was associated with

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
I think Jed can answer better than I do. But the reason is Krivit doesn't like that guy it is that he thinks Melich a cover agent of the US government to suppress cold fusion. But they are very probably associated, as you can see in the list of Rossi's list of advisors in his blog as well as some

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: I tried translating from the Swedish PDF to English with Google. It's not entirely satisfactory but it does suggest that Kullander did consider Grabowski's paper or the same concerns from theory. If I understood him, Kullander concluded that Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: Did he not discuss the fact, that the electrical energy was not enough for boiling? It was barely enough for 60°, at this water flow rate. I think this is evident and

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 19:48, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: Did he not discuss the fact, that the electrical energy was not enough for boiling? It

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 20:10, schrieb Peter Heckert: Btw, it is interesting to see in figure 6 that the differential steepness at 10:36 abruptly and exactly doubles. It looks as if a second 300W heater was activated. This is enough for some boiling. If there was water overflow this would be

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 20:36, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 24.11.2011 20:10, schrieb Peter Heckert: Btw, it is interesting to see in figure 6 that the differential steepness at 10:36 abruptly and exactly doubles. It looks as if a second 300W heater was activated. This is enough for some boiling. If

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
From: Peter Heckert [mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish) snip Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it elsewhere. Rossi has two heaters in the device -- a startup heater in the middle and a safety (?!?!)

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:30, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter wrote: Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands. I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand,

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: ** Then, why does he invite scientists? Kullander and Essen are rather high level scientists. For what does he need Levi? Exactly. Not to mention his invitation a while back to Josephson. Fire all scientists

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:34, schrieb Mary Yugo: Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it [snip] My suspicion is that KE did it correctly with the

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I did say I was not going to reply to you but your last statement is just 100% BS. The reactor and the Blue Box sat on a table. There was ONE power cord that was plugged into the wall. It went to the Blue Box (then the RFG was inside the Blue Box) and then to the reactor. There were no other

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
24, 2011 12:43 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish) snip I can't agree with ignoring other bad science and technology fraud. The average person in the street won't know that water cars (adding on board generation of hydrogen

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
, November 24, 2011 12:55 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish) I did say I was not going to reply to you but your last statement is just 100% BS. The reactor and the Blue Box sat on a table. There was ONE power cord that was plugged

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: It is SELDOM a black or white situation… just because past claims of magnet motors and water cars have been shown to be mistaken or fraudulent, doesn’t mean that ALL such claims can be concluded to be the

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 22:08, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? I must admit, I have never seen a magnet motor or water car. Because I dont see these devices that where

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
Slide 45 is the one I adapted from New Energy Times it's in my steam quality document! - Original Message - See: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3352744.ece/BINARY/Kullander_lecture_23nov.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
You think Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini are lying about the results or these people are idiots? What hidden wires? The mains cord went to the Blue Box and then to the reactor. Everything was visible. Look at the photos. What not checking for hidden wires? You can see

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Exactly. AG On 11/25/2011 7:42 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities here: 1) Mary is aware of

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: You think Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini are lying about the results or these people are idiots? They don't have to be idiots to be fooled. Scientists are more easily fooled than most

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
, prime cow ribs, bourbon sweet potatoes and fermented grapejuice! -m From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 1:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish) On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:08