WELL SAID!!
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
One more post on this intriguing subject of “disappearing hydrinos” leading to
anomalous cooling, before passing the
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> To Terry (master of the one-liner) Blanton,
> R U feeling ill, or just totally bored?
Both, actually, mentally.
The quote is from Douglas Adams.
Rodin invented the Rodin coil.
And I didn't even mention Walter Russell and his vortex th
To Terry (master of the one-liner) Blanton,
R U feeling ill, or just totally bored?
:-)
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
TRATEOTU:
The Total Perspective Vortex derives its picture of the whole Universe on
the principle of extrapolated matter an
TRATEOTU:
The Total Perspective Vortex derives its picture of the whole Universe
on the principle of extrapolated matter analyses.
To explain — since every piece of matter in the Universe is in some
way affected by every other piece of matter in the Universe, it is in
theory possible to extrapolat
One more post on this intriguing subject of “disappearing hydrinos” leading to
anomalous cooling, before passing the pliers to Terry.
We have already mentioned that Dirac’s “reciprocal space” provides an
alternative venue for this modality, if it really exists – with a lot more
credibility
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one.
>
> This scenario does not need to involve parallel universes (in the SciFi
> sense) nor anything theological. In fact, Dirac's "reciprocal space" works
> fine - as the "repository"
http://www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/64106-missing-neutrons-may-be-visiting-parallel-universe
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h68g501352t57011/fulltext.pdf
Same story on missing neutrons with graph and the full text site - showing the
apparent region of interest with a cluster
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:27:19 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>
>Perhaps the neutrons are captured in some manner and allowed to decay into
>proton, electron, and an electron antineutrino. The antineutrino would easily
>escape the system carrying away mass and energy
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:38 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
>It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one. ...
>...The interesting part (for this
Reference:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHnucleartra.pdf
NUCLEAR TRANSMUTATIONS IN THIN-FILM NICKEL COATINGS UNDERGOING
ELECTROLYSIS
George H. Miley and James A. Patterson
Other key features observed in Fig. 8 and Fig. 9 that must be accounted for
by any theory include the “
As I recall, the titanium experiments with thermal gain have been with
deuterium. Do you have reference to gain with Ti-H instead of Ti-D?
But even if titanium can go either way, and it can be determined that some
experiments with hydrogen and other “nano-metric” metals result in excess heat,
I wrote:
>
> So if Brian Ahern's anecdotal data are allowed, titanium can yield both
> power and localized cooling (perhaps energy is being fed into the system
> from the power outlet to accomplish this).
>
I'm all mixed up. There are the ice packs, which absorb heat during a
phase transition fr
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> … don’t crush that dwarf :-)
Hand me the pliers.
(Without knowing the reference, this sounds crazy.)
T
I wrote:
>
> The question of nickel v. tungsten is more complex than I implied. If I
> remember correctly, there are experiments with tungsten in which heat was
> produced.
>
The experiment involved titanium nanopowder, not tungsten. But I see now
that there have been experiments using titanium
I wrote:
> It brings the question of conservation of energy to the fore. If normal
> LENR is like a box with a button on it, which once pressed causes heat to
> spill out, can you have another box with a button that, when pressed,
> causes cooling to occur? At face value, it sounds like some ba
Yesterday, Robin mentioned that under the theory of Mills, the hydrino
cannot be easily contained after it gives up significant energy - and would
eventually migrate out of the structure like a neutron (being subject to
gravity) and eventually “disappear” anyway – so there is no need for another
su
to what is suggested as a sink of energy that
allows cooling. Perhaps this discovery is a low temperature variation of this
effect.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, David Roberson wrote:
Thanks for the update Jones. If the cooling effect is valid then it
> should be pursued. Any time an anomalous occurrence is registered an
> opportunity to discover a new relationship exists which may allow us to fit
> additional parts of
process is about as evasive as the heating
effect. Please keep us informed about this issue as new data is revealed.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2012 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
UPDATE:
I was asked about the EPRI
UPDATE:
I was asked about the EPRI data in the Ahern report - showing cooling with
titanium nanopowder, and finally got in touch with Brian.
He did not include the data in the final report, merely a summation.
He stands by the cooling effect as valid and repeatable; but the effect was not
as
s.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 9:15 pm
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
>
> 1. If a neutron can disappear into the vacuum, then:
> 1a. Can a neutron pop INTO thi
Since the subject has arisen, it is worth mentioning that the
spontaneous generation of matter happens in "steady-state"
cosmological theories propounded by Fred Hoyle and others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory
Harry
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> -Or
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
1. If a neutron can disappear into the vacuum, then:
1a. Can a neutron pop INTO this space (spontaneous formation)?
Let me just say this. There have been for a long time - reports of spontaneous
(anomalous) hydrogen showing up in extreme
Let us not throw away the CoE too fast. I suggest that an solution will one
day appear that does not do this.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
1. If a neutron can disappear
feast begins!
:-)
-Mark
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
> They don't
Seems to me the "Sea of Negative Energy" must be involved and
Feynman's Nobel might be revoked.
T
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
> They don't need to disappear into reciprocal space.
This isn't about "need" Robin - it is about explaining results. Most of the
time, of course, this kind of cooling reaction simply does not happen. Do
you know of any other reports of anomal
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 8:01 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
Original Message-
rom: mix...@bigpond.com
Why would Hydrinos be any more likely to interact with another dimension
han
rdinary matter?
i Robin,
Why would
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Why would Hydrinos be any more likely to interact with another dimension
than
ordinary matter?
Hi Robin,
Why would neutrons? This is all based on the speculative paper cited.
The paper apparently does not go into much detail on an underlyin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>E=mc^2 works both ways, apparently - and when mass "disappears" - in a
>dimensional sense, so does the corresponding energy it contained. This is
>seen as heat removal from a hot reactor. The active species does not
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Essentially, what I think happens with nano-titanium cooling is that the
>nanoparticles - which are a strong Mills' catalyst - collapse to the full
>redundancy in one continuous step - where there is both heat releas
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>The interesting part (for this thread) is that with Titanium nanopowder,
>instead of a temperature inversion indicating gain, you get an anomalous
>"sink." For instance, instead of an expected 10 degree drop (out-to-
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>The current is kept absolutely
>constant to the heater, so that there is no variation on P-in during the
>run.
Resistance heaters usually have a resistance that is temperature dependant (at
least to some degree), s
It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one.
This scenario does not need to involve parallel universes (in the SciFi
sense) nor anything theological. In fact, Dirac's "reciprocal space" works
fine - as the "repository" for deep hydrinos, and with no other fictional
"baggage" so to
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