Hmm.. good points. Quasi-private, quasi-public. Thanks.
s
At 11:11 PM 8/16/2005, you wrote:
umm, yes, in teh basic model of capitalism, corporations ARE beholden
to society. corps were not ALLOWED to exist in the good olde days of
capitalism like they do now, becuase it was KNOWN they would
One
big question, relating to Steve Krivit's quest for documented 100%
reproducibility in a given *type* of LENR experiment
Minor clarification.
Such is not my quest. Uh-oh. Now having flashbacks to Monty Python...
My quest is to seek the Holy Grail!
But seriously folks, reproducibility is no
At 11:23 AM 8/18/2005, you wrote:
I visited their site. Does anyone know if they are doing anything other
than hosting a website and attempting to raise capital?
Good question Thomas.
As I think is generally-known, Russ George did get a bunch of money from
Solar in exchange for his company.
Terry,
Can you tell me more about these requests off line? What they look
like? Any ideas where they are coming from?
May I can help.
Thanks,
Steve
At 02:28 PM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
Vorts,
I have had a number of requests lately for a form letter which could be
used to write Congress on
Terry,
Very interesting. Thanks for the local news report from your neck of the wood.
I think I can best help at the moment by continuing to focus my time on
providing original research and investigative reports/interviews which
others can hopefully use as reference.
JohhnyC - Do you have
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005KrivitS-HowCanItBeReal-Paper.pdf
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005KrivitS-HowCanItBeReal-Presentation.pdf
Seems they have begun their own research re: Hubbert Peak and the truth
about our oil supply and are realizing that they will never see $2/gal gas
again. Many are dumping their SUVs and pickups. In a company gathering I
stood up to speak and mentioned that rapid transit and commuter rail
Sharp eye, you have there Mr. Bruce. Yes, it's in the original. I'll talk
to Mel about it and see if I can get clarification/correction.
Thank you VERY much!
Steve
At 05:12 AM 8/21/2005, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005KrivitS-HowCanItBeReal-Paper.pdf
Hi all,
Just back from Brussels...everything went great with the presentations from
me, McKubre, De Ninno and Frisone. Excellent receptivity from, and dialogue
with that community. More details to come in New Energy Times Sept. 10.
Steve
Nothing exciting, just that CF was very well-received. More in NET #12
At 09:58 PM 8/27/2005 -0400, John Coviello wrote:
Steve,
Any good nuggets from the ICENES conference. Oil looks poised to go over
$70 as Katrina is now a monster and is heading for the oil platforms off
Louisana.
John
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/30/katrina/index.html
Fascinating, informative report..thanks Terry.
Contraflow, that's what they called it. Good term. I'm glad they
eventually used it. The photo of NO I saw with 99.9 percent outbound
traffic seemed to beg for its implementation.
I have seen this work quite well in the Malibu fires a few years
Oh my dear Lord! ROFL.
Never such a productive staff meeting.
s
At 06:44 AM 9/1/2005, you wrote:
Written during my staff meeting this morning:
Octane
(to the tune of Cocaine with apologies to Eric Clapton and JJ Cale)
If you wanna go out you've got to take her out, octane.
Nawlins has
Because this part of my ICENES paper was so appreciated by some of you I
have placed it on its own standalone Web page.
http://newenergytimes.com/PR/CFMythsFacts.htm
s
Jed,
If you are really curious, you can probably do some diags on your own with
tracert and note the latency for various hops to various destinations.
s
Maybe his ISP is not tier 1?
At 02:03 PM 9/2/2005, you wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell
Perhaps this is just be my ISP making excuses about a technical glitch?
Yes, although traffic is higher, generally outages are not the problem:
http://www.nthelp.com/maps.htm
Today's networks utilize dense
That's fine with me.
s
Oh really?
I smell something.
Please let me know if/what you get back.
s
At 02:05 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
Google Alerts tells me that someone named Joe Barker has been promoting
cold fusion power -- presumably our CF, not the programming language, and
that he made statements about it at the
Now I looked at the site which gives me a different impression. I had
thought you meant he was promoting it commercially, or at least promoting
it. I retract my earlier comment. I think he's just a futurist, like the
rest of us, open to new ideas, and helping us get to tomorrow. Or helping
us
Laughter will save the rest of us from going insane.
Thanks Jed
At 02:52 PM 9/16/2005, you wrote:
Woman complains to cops after hitman she hired fails to get the job done
See:
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20050915p2a00m0na003000c.html
A woman who hired a hitman to murder the
Dear Vo,
A few days ago, I received notice that my abstract,
How Can Cold Fusion Be Real,
Considering It Was Disproved By Several Well-Respected Laboratories in
1989?, was accepted for oral presentation at the International
Congress of Nanotechnology, which will be held on October 31-November
www.ANS.org
The LENR session will be Thursday, 17 November 2005
Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions, sponsored by IRD. Session Organizer:
Bob Smith (Oakton Int). All invited. [Track 7]
Nuclear Reaction Pathways
Resulting from Phonon Interactions, Peter
Laurence Hagelstein (MIT)
Evidence for
Jed,
Copyright violation? Yes. But that's not we care about so much.
It was a collaborative piece. As editor, I worked extensively with John
on it. Also my copy editor, Cindy Goldstein worked on it.
So when we don't get any credit or recognition for it appearing
elsewhere...that's the part that
Thanks Richard:
Goal: $895
Received: 3 pledges totalling $650
Remaining: $245
Who wants in? :)
My paper is due Friday. Pledges or donations received by Thursday night
will be recognized in the paper and presentation, unless anonymity
requested.
Donations:
This nano opportunity came up more or less at the last minute and it was a
surprise to me because I never sent in an official abstract. The 2-week
delta between acceptance and due date made it challenging to get quick
funding to support this project. I had a quarterly budget in place, which
$170 left to go
s
Hey Vorts,
Your response to sponsor my talk was terrific - we came within $120 of
breakeven!
Thanks for jumping in to help and participate.
Steven
Gennulmuns,
I'm not following this thread to closely, but a reporter sent this to me
the other day. Seems to be some parallel.
FYI:
At 06:17 AM 9/19/2005, you wrote:
http://www.privatepower.ca/101/privatepower/index.htm
The above is a link I discovered after an article ran in our local
Hi Alex,
I am finding your posts of value and I think it would also be helpful and
appropriate for you to prepend subject lines of topics such as this with
OT, if you would be so kind.
Steve
Hi Alex and Welcome!
I'm not sure how long you've been on the list. I may be off-base here,
but you might want to just take a look for a while and get the feel of
Vortex. It does have a unique culture.
The most valuable thing about Vortex, and about your potential
contributions, is not as a news
(my isp had been temporarily blocked)
Ugghh.
Maybe it's better that the government and big business ignored cold fusion
if this is what happens with the boys in the gubbymint.
Maybe it will be better after all, for the common man and woman if cold
fusion technology comes up through the private sector.
And the Tertiary Disaster?
Can any html-heads out there tell me how to add a mini icon to the front of
the nav field on a browser?
I used Dreamweaver.
TIA,
Steve
FYI:
http://www.ianano.org/Program1.html
(I'm on Tuesday morning, you can use your browser's search feature to
search on krivit)
s
Awesome, thanks, I didn't even know what to call that thing. I owe ya one.
s
Have slideshow, will network!
At 02:40 AM 9/30/2005, you wrote:
That's great Steve, looks like you're on mid to late morning, which is
strategically a good time for networking discussions about your stuff
during the lunch break while new info is still in delegates minds!
Nick Palmer
8y or 100k miles, that sounds pretty good
Thanks
s
http://newenergytimes.com/Reports/GarwinLewisReport/garwin.htm
In mid-2004, reporter Sharon Weinberger of the
Washington Post Magazine picked up the trail of this story and found
Garwins' document posted here. At the time, Sharon was starting her
article, I was finishing my book. She exchanged
Hi Nick,
Thanks for the help. It is possible that working prototypes may start to
appear in the near future. For this reason alone, it would be beneficial
to everybody on the planet if the environmental activists start learning
some basics about this field so that when they start to hear about
Ignorance, eh? How about information science? IMHO, the islands of
ignorance map should have the U of Maryland in bright red.
Thomas,
Why? Because of his antics with CF?
Steve
I don't think that's very accurate, I think there are many more.
At 01:42 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
This show is pretty good. However, as far as I can tell it has not stirred
up much public interest in the subject. There is a link to LENR-CANR.org
at the bottom of the transcript. It has not
It's Parksie's whole shtick. CF is one part of it, I assume you've heard
his line, I've yet to read a paper which proved CF. That was because
when someone handed him a paper he let it slip through his fingers. Then
there is his famous line, I don't care about you isotopic ratios Now I
ask
Good morning cold fusion fans!
I just submitted a summary of my current cold fusion efforts and
activities on SCISCOOP.
As you may or may not know, stories will only go online if other users
vote YES to post them.
Won't you be so kind as to help out?
http://www.sciscoop.com/
If you are not a
s
(Isn't it the American thing to do, have a war on
everything?)
;)
s
S. Robert Lichter
President
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Dear Dr. Lichter,
(Source: http://www.stats.org/record.jsp?type=newsID=314, Dubious
Data of the Past Decade, January 01 2000, The worst science
Jed,
I watch the conventional media with both a telescope and a microscope on
this subject matter. I agree with you. And I think it's more than an inch.
Largely discredited literally means there is some credit.
You are seeing the mechanisms of mass media and control of public opinion
at
V
Somebody (not me) with spare time and an active imagination passed this
along to me.
Too good not to share.
http://newenergytimes.com/news/IdleTimeActiveImagination.htm
s
Targus sells a DC-DC kit to go from the cigarette lighter directly into a
laptop, no inverter required. Same kit works on airplanes.
I've used an 800 watt inverter (direct to 12V battery terminals) along with
a few long heavy duty power extension cables before, during
earthquake-caused power
Your best source for cold fusion news and information.
Nov. 10, 2005 -- Issue #13
ISSUE #13 is available online at
http://newenergytimes.com/news/NET13.htm
Our mission is to provide accurate and responsible news and analysis as
well as educational programs to accelerate progress of new,
ROFL!
Thanks :)
s
Jones,
From my view, your amazement is not without basis.
My hunch is that in time, it will be seen that this theory
will be shown to be related to the work of many,many people.
:)
Steve
At 06:45 AM 11/11/2005, you wrote:
NEW
ENERGY TIMES -- Issue #13
A most amazing pdf is mentioned
here:
Jones,
From my view, your amazement is not without basis.
My hunch is when things get sorted out from this, it will be seen that this
theory will
At 06:45 AM 11/11/2005, you wrote:
NEW ENERGY TIMES -- Issue #13
A most amazing pdf is mentioned here:
Good work, Jed
s
At 02:40 PM 11/18/2005, you wrote:
Cold fusion may be dead in the water in the US, but it seems to be
attracting more attention overseas lately. See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm
- Jed
I did a lot of work to prepare this paper, so you folks better read it!
Jed,
Good work. I consider this paper very clear and worthy of recognition.
I am not aware of any other such paper that is so illustrative of the BARC
work, are you?
I'm curious how this paper has surfaced now, 15
Wesley,
At 04:01 PM 11/20/2005, you wrote:
I've said to a friend that most critics of cold fusion can't quote or cite
a single paper critical of cold fusion. It's certainly correct in
Australia. but is it correct in all cases. What are the papers critical of
cold fusion and have we debunked
This is important because it shows how much dynamic, promising
research was going on in India from 1989 to the mid-90s. Unfortunately,
nothing is happening there now, as far as I know. I have heard that after
Iyengar and the others retired, the enemies of cold fusion moved in and
took steps
Wesley,
The last time I confronted someone who was adamantly opposed to cold fusion
was about a year ago. The playing field was the Amazon reader review
section. This guy posted something that was so viscous, it was actually
entertaining to see how angry the whole cold fusion issue made him.
Hello Vorts,
Just a quick word to let you know that my report at ICCF12 went quite well.
People told me that they found my report informative and helpful. As far as
the subject matter, most people were fascinated, some skeptical, some
curious, and some clearly excited.
It's been 5 months
This is the link to the video of my talk on Thursday at ICCF12. Towards
the end of my talk, I included an 8.5 minute video which I produced from
footage taken in a Canadian laboratory. Unfortunately I have to delay
putting that clip onto the Internet at this time for legal reasons which
are
Hi Jones,
I'm sure you have seen the writups:
http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/226yang.html
http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/216koldamasov.html
Yeah, I know all about Ludwik's blogs and also where he got his
information from and where he is speculating and where he is
Hello Mr. Anon,
Please have a look/listen to what I write/say in my presentation/video
about hot vs cold and tell me your thoughts.
Steve
At 02:05 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote:
If the references provided by Mr. Beene relate to what you are terming
hydraulic-electrostatic cold fusion, it is
Cher Anon,
N'est pas l'attitude.
Your question is an important one, but I just did not wish to repeat what
I have already gone to great lengths to present and publish. My reference
is here:
Slide 16
Why Is This Cold Fusion?
- Apparent nuclear energy from hydrogen at low temperatures
- Apparent
Thanks to Shinya Narita for compiling the ICCF12 abstracts.
They are available on the New Energy Times Web site here
http://newenergytimes.com/Conf/ICCF12/ICCF12-Abstracts.pdf
Steven B. Krivit
Editor, New Energy Times
Executive Director, New Energy Institute Inc.
that the new source of energy is used wisely and
appropriately.
s
At 08:12 AM 12/8/2005, you wrote:
This post is primarily directed to both Jed, Steven Krivit,
Jed, in the past you have lamented the fact that you feared CF research
may be dieing a slow death, particularly due to what you have
dog bites man ;)
At 09:42 AM 6/11/2009, you wrote:
Continuing yesterday's theme of mass media non-attacks, here is a mention
of cold fusion in a Washington Times book review:
It's time for a temporary ban on all off-topic discussions, most
specifically a ban on anything involving politics or religion. Those
who wish to discuss such things can do so: just use vortexB-L instead.
I've susbscribed the vortex community to vortexB.
Bill,
This will require some
Taking the lead on anything is not easy. I think we should be working with
Bill to help find ways to mutually support his leadership. (and contribute
too, by the way)
Bill, you have Paypal or do we write checks?
Any or all of us could take responsibility in helping to maintain the
effectiveness and integrity of the list.
I was not acutely aware that RELIGION and POLITICS were inappropriate
subjects here until this recent flare-up. I, of course, thought they were
OT, but tolerated.
Now if the word
Does anyone else have any thoughts, pro or con, on this matter?
pro, very pro
Did they capture Shanahan too?
At 04:51 PM 6/22/2009, you wrote:
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ParksJohnstown/captured.htmlhttp://www.angelfire.com/pa/ParksJohnstown/captured.html
Frank Z
Kirk denies that he was captured.
From: kirk.shana...@srnl.doe.gov
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:21:45 -0400
Did they capture Shanahan too?
Not at all.
gotta give em credit for their willingness...
At 04:19 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote:
See:
http://stjury.ning.com/forum/topics/jury-announcementhttp://stjury.ning.com/forum/topics/jury-announcement
QUOTE:
In August 2006 the Irish company Steorn published an advertisement in the
Economist
uggg
At 08:33 PM 6/29/2009, you wrote:
Yeah, but who says that talking to anyone will help, watch this about
someone calling Verizon.
Subscribers got the link last week...For the rest of you...
EDITORIALS AND OPINION
1.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/NET32833xj$.shtml#FROMEDFrom the
Editor: Nuclear but Not Fusion
2. http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/NET32833xj$.shtml#TOEDTo
the Editor
NEWS AND
This still leaves me wondering how a reflection can become partly obscured by
clouds as it rises (about 14.5 seconds into the clip - you have
pause-play-pause-play etc. to catch this)?
(IOW was the movie fake, or the story?)
the flashlight passes behind something that obscures it. but not the
It's good. They did a great illusion. I wonder how many takes it took them
to get the angles right. A few milliseconds after the UFO goes up into
the clouds it comes back down for a very brief moment. That would be a flaw
in their magic trick.
SK: The Cerron-Zeballos work was not only incompetent, but
disingenuous: http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/NET29-8dd54geg.shtml
I find it incredulous that someone with your experience in science would
even suggest that any negative result might disprove another's claim.
You can
SK: Experimental disproof would require Cerron-Zeballos to have gone into
the Piantelli-Focardi lab and determine exactly how Piantelli-Focardi
goofed - or explicitly analyzed Piantelli-Focardi's data, assuming they
made a mistake.
JR: They did not need to do that any more than Miles
I never have a hidden agenda. My view of the Ni-CF research is clearly
stated in my book.
Jed,
Is this the view to which you refer, from Cold Fusion and the Future?
Steve
***
There is one more twist to this problem. Cold fusion can transmute the
cathode metal
Jed,
The original thread has splintered; one into planet Mills, the other into
planet Britz. The Britz issue is an incidental side-issue. I think we are
complete with our specific discussion of the CERN replication attempt of
the Piantelli-Focardi work...thanks for your critical thoughts on
Jed,
Thanks again for your thorough reply. I understand your perspective now.
Heat, heat, heat. That's what it's all about. Heat Energy Useful
Application Sorely Need by Society. I get it.
Switching threads now once again
I have not examined the other claims because frankly, I only
Hi Jed,
Good thoughts...thanks for your reply.
[snip]
A crucial question is: Can we learn to control cold fusion without a
comprehensive theory? Can we use empirical methods to improve cells to the
point where they become practical sources of energy? Michael Melich
believes we can, based
I do not see many prospects for a theory.
Sorry Jed, but you asked for this - Of course you don't see many
prospects for theory. Your words: I don't care about theory.
Whether I care about it or not has no bearing on the prospects for a
robust theory. I know what is being published. Not
Jed - I'm waiting for the man bites dog story.
At 02:34 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote:
Ho-hum news:
http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/researcher-condemns-conformity-among-his-peers
- Jed
BB
*This* journalist nominates this thread for relocation elsewhere. Puhleeze.
SK
Steve and Vortex,
About a year ago, I think it was, the Wikipedia cold fusion haters
blacklisted New Energy Times because I added some links to - heaven forbid
- the NET site which I thought would be useful. You know, the Internet is
good for Wiki, it's good for NET too - we're both vehicles
At 07:07 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote:
At 02:26 PM 9/3/2009, Terry Blanton wrote:
Thanks for expounding on that, Abd. I'm curious, are you typing or
using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak?
Typing. I bought Dragonspeak when I had a carpal tunnel release, but never
used it.
brevity?
naw!
There is no page titled jzq.
jzg, not jzq. Hard to see.
somewhat case sensitive.
so JzG is the optimal way
stands for Just zis guy, slang for just this guy
As I see it, these ICCF proceedings papers were never really published.
Plus, people will not read papers with spelling errors and so on, so there
is no point to reprinting the papers as is. So, while I have never changed
the content, I did rewrite them. A few authors say I should
At 05:52 PM 9/4/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
what is the plan for the most recent [ICCF] proceedings and the
forthcoming one?
I finished editing all papers for the most recent proceedings a week after
the final, FINAL deadline, in February or whenever it was. Nagel and
Melich
At 06:42 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
Do you have any idea why they broke tradition and did not get it published
by World Scientific?
I do not know, but I am glad they did. Perhaps I influenced their
decision, because I recommended they stop using World Scientific. I do
At 06:42 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
Do you have any idea why they broke tradition and did not get it published
by World Scientific?
I do not know, but I am glad they did. Perhaps I influenced their
decision, because I recommended they stop using World Scientific. I do
At 02:01 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
Let's say you want to buy a copy of the ICCF-14 proceedings in a few
years from now, or you want to get permission to republish text or image
from a paper in the proceedings. If Nagel and Melich are on a cruise ship
to Alaska for a month
Jed,
I could be wrong, but my guess is that Nate Lewis just doesn't have what it
takes to admit that he was frustrated and very emotional about the whole
damn thing and that he threw the baby out with the bathwater.
I approached Nate a few years ago in person but he turned his back on me
very good observations Jed
Dardik's Team Blocks Reporters Attempt to Meet With Fleischmann
by Steven B. Krivit
TISBURY, U.K. -- A pre-arranged meeting between this reporter and Professor
Martin Fleischmann, co-discoverer of cold fusion, failed to occur
yesterday, allegedly as a result of Fleischmann's failing health.
Jed,
You are welcome to your opinions, your judgements, your understanding of
media and your interpretation of what happened or what you have heard from
people who were not there.
Anybody else on this list is welcome to read the facts and make up their
own minds about the situation. Should
Dear Vortex,
Jed Rothwell and Abd ul-Rahman_Lomax have expressed themselves with a great
deal of rage and outrage that I reported that Martin is suffering from
Parkinson's disease and diabetes.
Despite their mudslinging and pontification (a popular word here in Italy),
the fact is that
Jed,
As before, I thank you for your opinions. And certainly Bill Beatty is wise
and cool-headed enough to notice that I have not made personal attacks
against you, but you have against me.
Steve
At 11:27 AM 10/13/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
Jed Rothwell and Abd ul
Frankly, if I were Bill Beaty, I would delete this whole thread and ban
Krivit if he does not stop this nonsense.
Jed,
I never thought I'd see the day that you would encourage censorship, either
post facto, or pre-emptively.
Steve
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