I'll be happy to design it for ya, Rick.
I'll give you a call on Monday.
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:01:17 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
Need to install a short tower as a relay on a mountaintop, no power
within 3/4 mile.
Anyone done battery / generator sites with one Canopy AP, one Canopy
SM
Especially since some of the links go to outside vendors, not an explanation. I looked at the site and expected to find out what each piece was. Instead I got a Trango add.
Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
Nuvio and CommPartners rely on Intrada for 911, just like Vonage.
As the Vonage IPO so clearly pointed out, 911 coverage is spotty at best.
Residential 911 is harder due to the nomadic possibilities.
CallVantage has taken measures to cover their butts and Lingo is working
on it.
But Intrado is
You haven't seen it yet, because Lingo is not profitable yet.
Primus owns Lingo and Primus is basically an International VOIP company.
Like so many VOIP Providers, they are still trying to figure out how to
make a profit.
Delta3 (which is the backend for VZ's VoiceWing) made $9.1M in revenue
Hi All,
I talked to the FCC the other day. 5.4 is at the grammatical checking
stage. All of the hard work is done. Should see product soon.
They (the FCC) has extended the certification of the existing rules (5.4's
rules also affect new 5.2 gig gear) for the current crop of 5.2 gig gear.
Marlon,
Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose
to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to
be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am
dreaming here!!
Thanks,
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Plan for an amp hour / hour.. 24 amp hours / day. if you buy a
couple of 100 amp hour walmart marine batteries you'd have 200/24 or
about 9 days of run time without solar. I don't know what solar
planning you need in Jersey. DoE has some maps of the US for solar
planning - if it works out
Rick,
The orthogon software upgrade pertaining to the 5.4 gzh band only applies to
the Gemini 5.4 capable unit only wich is for the Euro Market, non US based
gear has been certified yet for 5.4 ghz
From the Orthogon release notes:
1.1 Support for the 5.4GHz Hardware Variant
The Orthogon Systems
Sorry to bust your bubble but that was EU only
-B-
Rick Harnish wrote:
Mac,
As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be
allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices will be
allowed to operate in this spectrum.
I can tell you that
Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do make
money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share more
about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in knowing
anything I can about them right now.
Thanks,
Scriv
Peter R. wrote:
You haven't
Qwest is next.
We all know consolidation is going to continue.
So I went out and bought some Qwest shares this am.
George
Frank Muto wrote:
NYT/WSJ
ATT Inc. is nearing the acquisition of BellSouth Corp. for roughly $65
billion, people familiar with the situation said Saturday evening. A
Delta3 - is the EBITA?
DSJ
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Primus tells me they are more than a
Looks good!
Now will you PLEASE stop screwing with web sites and go sell!
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP in the country trying to sign them up
for a very CommPartners like deal. All of these VoIP providers are using
the same shitty model that will be worthless in 2 years time. There is
no money to be made in VoIP short-term unless you operate your own
equipment.
Quite simply, VoIP will be free in the long run. Use it to sell
bandwidth or what have you, but don't plan on profiting from it directly
outside of specific niches such as call centers. We have provisioned
hundreds of phone numbers and sold hundreds of phone lines, but our
actual monthly cost
John,
Primus has two seperate Voice products.
Their Business (primus) service is the answer for WISPs/ISPs, that jsut want
to sell an analog replacement line to a business to sue their existin PBX.
Primus actually embrases this unlike just about every other VOIP wholesaler
on the planet.
The
Did they happen to list executive's salaries?
A company doesn't have to be profitable for the officers to be profitable.
Good tax planning does not necessarilly, reflect the real health of the
company.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Qwest has too much debt.
BellSouth LD is Qwest's largest customer.
So even less revenue to pay off that huge debt.
George Rogato wrote:
Qwest is next.
We all know consolidation is going to continue.
So I went out and bought some Qwest shares this am.
George
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What about for those of us in small markets where the large VoIP players
don't have access numbers? What is your opinion on them coming here? For
instance, I'm in an area where the closest VoIP provider's number is 100
miles away with probably 25 or so NXX's that cannot call it locally. Not
Primus is a big International LD company. That is how it began in 1994.
Check out the Primus Wireless plan. Cellular and VOIP are based in
International exchanges.
Primus has short term debt of $26M; long term is $635M.
About to be de-listed from Nasdaq.
Net loss for the fourth quarter 2005
so should primus be avoided?
Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
www.wbisp.com
781-566-2053 ext 6201
1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783
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Hi Scriv,
We tried Lingo but could not get it to work reliably and
their voice quality was horrible when it did work. Their
support is overseas so expect to be treated like a number
instead of a person. LNP's are hard to get approved and
people calling our ported number often got a busy signal
Ha, not fair!
We lit up our hot spot on Saturday, I designed the web site on Sunday and I
am selling today! :-)
Starting a WISP is a lot of work ;-)
Victoria Proffer
www.StLouisBroadBand.com
314-974-5600
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I have to agree with Matt. Selling Host PBX service is probably the only
part left of VOIP that allow for a margin.
Peter
Matt Liotta wrote:
Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP in the country trying to sign them
up for a very CommPartners like deal. All of these VoIP providers are
using the
My understanding is that many rural markets can be accessed using tandem
PRIs. For example, using tandems in GA I can get access numbers for the
entire state with only 10 actual circuits. Though, each circuit can only
handle 23 incoming calls at once, so to support a large user base it
would
In our case, the most expense part of our VoIP deployment was getting
our network ready to support it correctly. Whether the backend is
outsourced doesn't affect the requirement to support end-to-end QoS.
Therefore, I believe that you should either get in all the way or not at
all.
The worst
Issues such as LNP, E-911, 411, CALEA, yellow page listings, and taxes
will take a bite out of any profit.
Even termination, origination and DIDs cost money.
Let's say you get a 2 way CLEC PRI for $615 + DIDs at $10 per 20.
And let's say the CLEC will do your LNP and 911.
$615 divided by 23
I agree with that bit of advice whole heartedly Matt!
We are in the process of setting up our own VoIP solution as we speak. I
think that by the time that 100 of us WISPs get into our own VoIP offerings
we can allow access from the other WISPs PRI's...etc for PSTN access to
limit the amount
I, for one, appreciate all of the comments. This is what I'm looking for -
the good, bad, and ugly, to figure out whether I even want to dive into this
market.
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That whole FCC E-911 thing was to save the PSTN. Cell phones have been
around 10 years without 911.
The other VOIP concern are the Virtual NXX cases at the FCC.
If SBC wins it's virtual NXX case against Valor (?? maybe another
company), the charges for DID will go through the roof.
Virtual
You might have just had a bad experience.
I beta tested the Primus Business VOIP product in 2004 and my only
complaint was that after talking for 75 minutes on one call, it would
die. And the Cisco ATA needed to be rebooted a lot.
Peter
KyWiFi LLC wrote:
Hi Scriv,
We tried Lingo but could
The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great in theory. From our standpoint, it would cost us more to connect
to a single WISP than to pay our entire long distance bill. We pay
between $0.002 to $0.005 per minute on average for domestic long distance.
-Matt
Mac
You're a CLEC, right?
Matt Liotta wrote:
The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great in theory. From our standpoint, it would cost us more to connect
to a single WISP than to pay our entire long distance bill. We pay
between $0.002 to $0.005 per minute on
VoIP is an essential part of your offerings. We target business customers
and try to sell SDSL style services instead of ADSL style as it's just as
easy for us to deliver a symmetrical service then it is to deliver an
asymmetric service. The key to selling the symmetric service is by showing
the
Nope
-Matt
Peter R. wrote:
You're a CLEC, right?
Matt Liotta wrote:
The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great in theory. From our standpoint, it would cost us more to
connect to a single WISP than to pay our entire long distance bill.
We pay between
Yes but, Quest has a loyal customer base, which is substantially different
in profile than the other Telco's client base.
Its sorta like Verizon buying MCI, MCI offered a complete diverse portfolio
of target clent bases and Assets.
Consolidation also allows for the sharing of infrastructure or
There is only one way for these companies to expand, buy market share.
Qwest has a big market in the west.
They just won't offer that much for Qwest.
Maybe 12.00 per share, my guess.
George
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Yes but, Quest has a loyal customer base, which is substantially
different in
Matt,
I have no doubt, that you are prepairing yourself well for the future
regarding VOIP. Its decissions like the ones you made to do MPLS and
Redundant paths (in your case wired MESH), that will empower you to more
reliably offer your own VOIP services On-Net, like you are doing.
The
Revenue: 174.0 million net Loss $189.6million
our marketing expenses were $176.3million./
Wow.
That would support my arguement that there is no part of the equation more
valuable than the portion responsible for the unique access to the consumer
via a verticle sell.
So if I'm a wireless
RANT
I've got working VOIP on my network, beta-tested and ready to roll out
but without e911. I like VOIP, because I have people subscribing to our
service just so they can get Vonage and ditch their land line - but this
whole e911 thing is a fscking nightmare.
At what point does it make
Matt,
What type VoIP are you beta-testing?
We are currently looking at asterisk, but I am concerned about how many
subscribers I can maintain per PRI. So far the numbers I am getting do not
add up to profitability. I almost makes more sense to resell another
providers product.
Victoria
We aren't beta testing anything. We have been providing VoIP to our
customers for over a year now and we do use Asterisk.
-Matt
Victoria wrote:
Matt,
What type VoIP are you beta-testing?
We are currently looking at asterisk, but I am concerned about how many
subscribers I can maintain per
I think I am about to stir some of you up by asking this - - oh well :)
90% of spam messages to our network and 99% of the DOS attacks we are
suffering are in the IP space of RIPE network and I am considering blocking
all IPs from RIPE. What would be the most detrimental affect of this for
Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n
15-124, in a 3 antenna array? Anyone know what the front to back ratio
is on one of these? How about weatherability?
Jason Wallace
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Mac Dearman wrote:
90% of spam messages to our network and 99% of the DOS attacks we are
suffering are in the IP space of RIPE network and I am considering
blocking all IPs from RIPE. What would be the most detrimental affect
of this for my clients? other than the obvious no traffic to/from
I've aquired 24-26 full racks of Motorola Starpoint equipment - Does anyone know of who may be using this. Someone mentioned they are using this equipment in Africa ??
Any suggestions are welcome
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snip
I think everyone of us need to be in our own VoIP business!! I have even
given thought to a Coop kind of deal, but I need to have some more beer and
thoughts on that :-)
/snip
Mac,
You need some BEER -N- WIRELESS GEAR
-Charles
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snip
We pay
between $0.002 to $0.005 per minute on average for domestic long distance.
/snip
Matt,
Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 cents per
minute?
-Charles
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Johnny,
Can you give me more details on what you have. Is this 2 GHz stuff
(probably 1800-1900 MHz)? I have a local county here who uses what I think is
Starpoint but not sure. They are running out of spare cards and such and might
be interested. I think this was used a lot in older public
I really have to say that I had the opposite experience.
My Lingo, dicey for the first 6 months a couple of years
ago, has been rock solid for the past 18 months since I
got the newer boxes (USTARCOM).
The voice quality was not as good as Vonage unless you select
the higher quality option on
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