Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Kunze
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kunze Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Or as I like to phrase it: You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living. shrug Rk

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Kunze
At 06:03 PM 11/29/2011, you wrote: I heard you left to join a missionary. ;-) Well, you're close actually. Three years ago I started making beer. Hmmm, perhaps that explains all the time absent? cackle Rk - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Kunze
Oh, and as of April I am officially . . . Rk K6ISP WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-30 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 11/30/2011 03:44 PM, you wrote: Oh, and as of April I am officially . . . Rk K6ISP Good one! (I pulled my 2-letter call back when you-pick-'ems were free, so there's no annual fee like on a vanity call. K1IO certainly beats WB2ZJQ.) -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-29 Thread Eric Rogers
Subject: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Hello, I operate in the custom software development industry and am considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of you will not mind giving me some

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2011-11-29 Thread Matt Jenkins
Yes. On 11/28/2011 05:18 PM, Rich _ wrote: Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

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2011-11-29 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Rich, You might want to take a look at the white paper that I recently produced for WISPA that highlights how WISPs are successful. You can find it here: http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=252One of the things that makes WISPs successful is the use of fixed wireless, meaning the

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-29 Thread Rick Kunze
Or as I like to phrase it: You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living. shrug Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

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2011-11-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Or as I like to phrase it: You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living. shrug Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http

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2011-11-29 Thread Stuart Pierce
] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Or as I like to phrase it: You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living. shrug Rk --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org

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2011-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I heard you left to join a missionary. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2011 12:52 PM, Rick Kunze wrote: Or as I like to phrase it: You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living. shrug Rk

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-29 Thread Greg Ihnen
He joined a mission or a missionary? He got a missionary position? Greg On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I heard you left to join a missionary. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2011 12:52 PM, Rick Kunze wrote:

[WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Hello, I operate in the custom software development industry and am considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll be glad to answer any software development

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Rich, WISPA General List is actually a Global List. It would go a long ways for relevant folks to reply back to you if you at least share what part of the world ? / State or City if in the US. My personal reaction after reading the first two paragraphs was to suggest that you should

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
3.65 link you do. I'm sure everyone here will correct me if i am wrong. :) - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Hi Rich, WISPA General List

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2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the business. Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A technical partner or technical

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2011-11-28 Thread Doug Clark
of the hardest business ventures you could possibly get into. IMO ~Doug ---Original Message--- From: Rich _ Date: 11/28/2011 4:52:55 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA

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2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
*To:* fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. I'm interested in finding a location that best

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2011-11-28 Thread Sam Tetherow
Rich, Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you will be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install. Trust me, there are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that one out

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using something other than a WISP? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Rich, Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of reselling cellular you are not going to going to

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2011-11-28 Thread Josh Luthman
None that I know of. Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange. That model doesn't seem to financially or operationally/technically work. Most if not all the Wisps here install equipment on vertical space (grain leg, building, tower) and install a CPE on the customer roof. From the CPE

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2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection using one of those 1x3 USB things? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: None that I know of. Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange. That model doesn't seem to

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the business. Yes, I would be looked at as the business

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2011-11-28 Thread Sam Tetherow
Do you have a particular company in mind? The only companies that I know of that are using dongles (somewhat successfully) are cellular companies. They are using licensed frequencies that cost in hundreds of millions of dollars, assuming you can find any for sale. The last public sale was

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2011-11-28 Thread Matt Jenkins
Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency which they pay a premium for. On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote: What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection using one of those 1"x3" USB things?

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Those are both good examples of what I had in mind. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Do you have a particular company in mind? The only companies that I know of that are using dongles (somewhat successfully) are cellular companies. They are using

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: ** Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency which they pay a premium for. On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote: What type of

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Jenco Wireless
wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the business. Yes, I would

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
The answer to my last question was obvious from the posts so far. I should have asked if there are licensed frequencies that I can still purchase and if so how much do the range in cost? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: ** Proprietary equipment in

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2011-11-28 Thread wispa
The dongles used to be that expensive, but we can get them now for $30 to $40 each, but that is the easy part. To get that going, you need a massive infrastructure footprint, own spectrum, large base stations which are tens of thousands of dollars above anything a WISP typically would deploy,

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2011-11-28 Thread wispa
ATT wants to buy T-Mobile - mainly for its spectrum. That is a $33+ billion dollar deal. If you look at the spectrum the cellular companies have and are hoarding, you will conclude it is very hard to find spectrum worth having which is not already licensed, which is why WISPA is working hard

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2011-11-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I am curious if any one of the users here have any frequency deployed. I know Jay has some in Alabama. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 28, 2011 8:18 PM, Rich _ rich.ema...@gmail.com wrote: Then, most WISP operations use

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2011-11-28 Thread wispa
It could be you will not find what you want, Rich. Having easy frequencies - your 'own' spectrum, cheap gear from Huawei, and simply mailing the CPE 'dongle' to the customers still runs up against physics: you need to have to pump plenty of power into the air to cover a big area, and even if

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2011-11-28 Thread wispa
Well said! So would you care to put a price tag on what you cost out an indoor customer-installed link versus an outdoor company-installed link and the related share of RAN to the edge of the network? Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote .. On Nov 28, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Sam Tetherow

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2011-11-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
, November 28, 2011 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... I am curious if any one of the users here have any frequency deployed. I know Jay has some in Alabama. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

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2011-11-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
to me. We need to talk more Blake :) Thanks, -jf - Original Message - From: Blake Covarrubias To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... On Nov 28, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote

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2011-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
a few burgers and clean a few toilets. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rich _ Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... What type