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- Original Message -
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Lets not forget the rules may not be the same
, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
On May 12, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
Ok... so back to original dilemma...
I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio
card, a
RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines.
Criminal
]on
Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Nonsense, Matt.
Read the grant yourself. The grant is MODULAR certification, meaning you
can use the module in any way you choose, so long as you lable the device
Let me muddy the waters a bit more with an interesting thread:
http://ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8556highlight=fcc
"WTH" seems to be pretty knowledgeable and quotes chapter and verse to
back himself up. His arguments are largely based on the "professional
installation" rules in part-15.
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
On another note. To do a FCC certification of a radio it's not just to do
the testing. Either you have to have approval from the original certifier
to reuse their cert filing to create a new FCC id to which you add your
antennas that been tested. Or you
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has
to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images, text
etc on it as well. You can only get those if you are a MT distributor
, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has
to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images, text
etc on it as well. You can only get those if you
.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where
PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've seen
that
JeffSoHoCo has certified gear. Is that based on the same Mikrotik
program you describe here Mac? Is that information available from
Mikrotik
wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
I belive you must purchase hardware directly from MT to be a
distributor.
* ---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http
to talk about...
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs dmburg...@linktechs.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:08 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
I belive you
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It
has
to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images,
text
etc on it as well. You can only get those if you are a MT
dmburg...@linktechs.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:13 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Scott, Thats not the case, you have to have the Mikrotik FCC Sticker
etc..
To your questions
12, 2009 1:13 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Scott, Thats not the case, you have to have the Mikrotik FCC Sticker
etc..
To your questions.
1. Nope
2. Nope
On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a minipci
wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal...
This has been discussed at length. No matter how many times someone
makes the laptop argument it doesn't change the fact
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:02 -0400, Scott Carullo wrote:
Its been clearly stated that you can take the RB, a radio card and stick it
in an enclosure and use it to your hearts content legally per FCC / UL
rules.
The trouble with that approach is that it isn't legal. In order to be
legal, it
, 2009 12:08 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
I belive you must purchase hardware directly from MT to be a
distributor.
* ---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board
-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote
On May 12, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a
XR5 which
has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use the
same
gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it
certified
again...
?
__
Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:24 AM
To: Matt Liotta; wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
, 2009 2:08 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Maybe this will clear things up (or muddy the waters)
I am looking at the bottom of my EEEPC which has a FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63
(Atheros 802.11B/G) which refers to:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:24 AM
To: Matt Liotta; wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a XR5
which has been tested
: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the markets
up. Certify with the largest panel, omni, parabolic dish, etc. you can get
to pass and anything in those groups is fair game.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
The Contains FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63 means that the laptop contains a
certified module. EEEPC or whoever the manufacturer is, still had to
get a Declaration of Conformity covering the laptop, module, likely
peripherals, and AC adapter. What they didn't have to do is get
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:23 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the markets
up. Certify with the largest panel, omni, parabolic dish, etc. you can get
to pass and anything
From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM
To: e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com, WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is
legal with any
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:23 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
That was some ruling passed a few years ago
...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com, WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is
legal with any antenna of similar type (panel, yagi, etc.) of equal of
lesser gain. Anybody can make
: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build
and certify them. If you build them, they won't be certified.
--
* Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org
On May 12, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
Ok... so back to original dilemma...
I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio
card, a
RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines.
Criminal or law abiding citizen...
Neither, but you
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now. Not sure on anyone
WISP-Router, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've seen
.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've seen
Gustafsson
CTO
WISP-Router, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where
Cosby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've seen that
JeffSoHoCo has certified gear. Is that based on the same Mikrotik
program you describe here Mac? Is that information
dco...@infowest.com
To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Can you explain what you mean by certified then? What does that
entail other than just putting together a board, antenna and radio
Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Can you explain what you mean by certified then? What does
, 2009 3:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Thanks for that answer. As usual, that brings up more questions for me.
If I buy a Mikrotik RB411 card, it has an FCC logo on it, I assume
because it passed some FCC radiation tests. However, I have no idea
what enclosure
2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
There are multiple ways to certify equipment, which have different
requirements.
The new trend is to certify the card with the antenna, just like you were
buying a certified wifi card off Best Buy's shelf, intending to install
Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
This is not true. Or else every minipci card would have to be tested and
certified with every single laptop they are being installed into. A SBC
in the near future.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Mikrotik has the Crossroads device
-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs dmburg...@linktechs.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
I'm pretty sure the FCC and the testing labs don't care who you are or
where you buy your
Message
From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs dmburg...@linktechs.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has
to be a certified system, as well
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build
and certify them. If you build them, they won't be certified.
If Mikrotik has done the Part B certification for the boards, then your
statement is not
but...@butchevans.com
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:32:09
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build
and certify them. If you build them
PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Hi,
I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532
Hi,
I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does
anyone know the status on this or if it was even real?
Travis
Microserv
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Hi,
I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Hi,
I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does
anyone
available in the near future.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now. Not sure
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