>
> debugging is easier and the license fee is a lot
> lower :)
its all to easy to end up a blind alley with flash
also flash often allowed designers to ensure cross platform display
Opera 9.5
looks great - very slick and dragonfly will be amazingly advantageous :)
2008/5/7 James Ellis <[EM
On Wed, 7 May 2008 02:35:51 pm Elizabeth Spiegel wrote:
>
> It can be great for getting immediate feedback without reloading a page
> e.g. building a customised bag at Timbuk2:
> http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/bagbuilder
>
> Elizabeth
Hi
Yes, but that kind of functionality can easily be d
that timbuk2 is great.
wholeheartedly agree about the small fonts and poor contrast
though this is designers getting carried away with things, and pleasing
their own egos
often I get asked by clients to create a flash intro for a site, with
cinematic ambitions they describe what they had in mind
Hi all
I've yet to see a full flash website I liked - too often they use small
fonts and poor contrast; navigation is quite often difficult. I understand
that accessibility has been improved, but haven't really explored it (and of
course just because the tools are now available doesn't mean that d
kate wrote:
No disrespect to Sven but that must be the pits to take the very long learning
curve:
Create the Flash:
Then along comes 'A Visitor' and disable all your hard work..*doh
Sorry? You're blaming "A Visitor" for not being able to obtain the
information you are supposed to giving them?
On 7/5/08 1:37 PM, "Sam Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using some unobstrusive js effects much the same (and or better) can be made
> without flash
>
> http://simonwillison.net/static/2008/xtech/
>
> which advises making a standard site that functions with basic html and
> present it
Using some unobstrusive js effects much the same (and or better) can be made
without flash
http://simonwillison.net/static/2008/xtech/
which advises making a standard site that functions with basic html and
present it with css, and then add additional functionality
not my own work but an example
I do think we also shouldn¹t forget that there are a lot of people out there
who need to find a webpage attractive in order to make them stay and read
the content. And some Flash(y) content can be useful/attractive. (Emphasis
on can¹!) Some people (probably a lot) really like that sort of stuff ..
On 5/6/08, Linda Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would just like to thank all those who have shared their
> experiences. There has been some very interesting feedback that has
> been mentioned and we are hoping to conduct a few tests and see how
> users feel with the colour sche
>
> I take the point of view that web pages are created to communicate with
> your audience.
thats how I see it too, content is king
I myself often have javascript and flash diasabled, so long as the content
is available to the audience.
2008/5/6 Sven Dowideit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> yup, but
Hi,
I hope this isn't too off topic, but I thought you'd be interested to
know that Opera launched Opera Dragonfly today - our new developer
tools.
This release is an early alpha to show the direction we are moving
with our developer tools. This initial version will include a
JavaScrip
>From Yslow http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/
Reduce the number of css files used
Link to them in the top of the page, no inline styles
Gzip and reduce the whitespace when going to production.
These are fairly simple steps for the average web developer. Visit yslow for
more performa
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steven Workman
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:19 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Reset the styles on a submit button with CSS
>
> The style "background:none" is in reference to the background-image
property, w
Ultimately you want to use one version during your development process (to
ensure readability between your development team) but then have a
smaller/compacted version to be used once you deploy to the live server (and at
which point it's not the end of the world if your CSS is difficult to read)
Thanks for taking the time to reply everyone. Much appreciated.
> Not quite what you asked, but have you considered using the element
> for your submit button instead of an input? Removes this kind of annoyance.
Yes, I did forget about that one. However though, I'm stuck in this
.NET vortex and I
Amrinder wrote:
I was reading this article on Smashing Magazine which shows how to
increase code readability
but I have listened to Andy Clarke ... saying that one should save
> the white space as it increases the file size.
Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability as des
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Amrinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability as described
> by Smashing Magazine or follow what Andy said.
>
Why not do both? Use a coding style that suits you, then compress it for
live deployment.
--
- Matt
Hi,
I was reading this article on Smashing Magazine which shows how to increase
code readability,
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/02/improving-code-readability-with-css-styleguides/
but I have listened to Andy Clarke over Lynda.com saying that one should save
the white space as it incre
Paul
Go have a look at http://nickcowie.com/presentation/s5-button.html
it should show what you can and can't style on input type submit
(particularly safari/camino), and what you can do with the button element.
Note it is a couple of years old and I don't use the button element at the
moment. Wa
You can use CSS selectors:
input[type="text"],input[type="password"],input[type="checkbox"],input[type="radio"]
{background:#000; color:#FFF;}
But this doesn't work in IE6...
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Matthew Pennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Paul Collin
The style "background:none" is in reference to the background-image
property, which is why it doesn't work.
background:transparent seems to be the most likely candidate as this relates
to the background-color property but there doesn't seem to be a
background:default setting which would be very use
Or, instead of using a class to reset the layout to original, why not set a
class for the elements you actually are styling?
When I use use INPUT elements I allways add a class related to what kind of
input element it is and only refer to the class in the CSS. Recently I've
started to use attrib
Hi Paul,
You could put them in two separate containers/divs and give the one
containing the form elements you want to style an id.
Doesn't have to be a div though. You could use a list, or anything else that
is containing the form inputs you want to style.
For example:
Then use:
#cont1 in
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Paul Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My issue is that the submit buttons now have this styling also in
> certain browsers. I'd like to give them a class and set them back to
> their original look, but background:none; doesn't work. Is there a way
> of doing thi
Hi all,
Here's an odd one I can't seem to solve. I had to style all input
fields in a form with a black background, white text. Rather than give
them a class, I've just given all inputs this styling
EG: input {background:#000; color:#FFF;}
My issue is that the submit buttons now have this stylin
yup, but then I take the point of view that web pages are created to
communicate with your audience. If people like me are part of your
audience, flash is pretty much unsuitable.
That doesn't mean there aren't audiences for whom flash is the right
answer, just that thought and analysis are nee
Hi all,
I would just like to thank all those who have shared their
experiences. There has been some very interesting feedback that has
been mentioned and we are hoping to conduct a few tests and see how
users feel with the colour scheme. I've used the colour contrast
analyser before, and it does
because users like Sven disable it by default
No disrespect to Sven but that must be the pits to take the very long learning
curve:
Create the Flash:
Then along comes 'A Visitor' and disable all your hard work..*doh
Kate
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