Hi "Ole Bob"

I see the reply from Ivan about CS that will probably read
higher when using a bubbler instead a stirrer.

Have you had a chance of comparing the two to prove that pls ?

I presume that Ivan has done so.

Gaston

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "I Anderson" <i...@win.co.nz>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:46 AM
Subject: RE: CS>questions: stir vs. bubble


> Connie,
> 
> A couple of thoughts come to mind:
> 
> The stirrer does not mix too well.
> You are trying for too high a concentration.
> The bubbler introduces CO2 gas to the water, which will ionise and
> give a false (high) reading.
> 
> If you are finding a change in the CS when exposed to light then it is
> possibly due to the quality of your water.
> 
> Regards
> Ivan.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
> > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 11:48 a.m.
> > To: silver- list
> > Subject: CS>questions: stir vs. bubble
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the SG6-very happy with my generator.
> > I have done some experiementing with the way I make my CS.
> >
> > I would like to compare my brew with stirring vs. bubbling and
> please
> > comments as too the differences.
> >
> > I use a 64 fl. oz. coffee creamer container to make my CS.
> >
> > Some days...using the stir....it seems to take longer. Not
> > observant enough
> > to say why one day is different vs. another.
> >
> > Here are the comparisons of the last two batches made:
> >
> > --First brew:
> > Stirred batch.
> > Seeded, ppm per Hanna PWT 4ppm.
> > I cleaned electrodes (with heavy build up) 3 x's during the brew.
> >
> > After 36 hours of generation...the ppm per Hanna was about
> > 18ppm. Indicator
> > light, indicating that the brew had not reached 20pppm (as
> > dialed) was still
> > on.
> > My stirred CS ALWAYS reads a lower number the next day, when
> > retested. Often
> > I will turn the generator back on, let it run again until the
> > indicator
> > light goes off.
> >
> > Allowed the brew to sit overnight. A lot of precipitate in
> > the container.
> > Did not bother to retest the ppm. ( I expected it to be lower
> > than what
> > measured the night before)
> > I gave up on that brew...used it in the bathwater....
> >
> > --Second brew:
> > Bubbled batch-stirrer removed.
> >
> > Seeded DW ppm at start 4ppm.
> > 10 hrs. later: indicator light off.
> > I did not clean the electrodes at all.
> > I shut down the generator.
> > Did not test the ppm.
> > left til this AM, testing ppm with Hanna, the ppm is 26ppm.
> > (set at 20ppm)
> >
> > Some, but little precipitate....electrodes with little build up.
> >
> >
> > My observed main points
> >
> > -bubbled CS consistently more stable after brew sits (ppm's
> > do not fall from
> > one day to the next)
> > -bubbled CS consistently has less build up on the electrodes, less
> > precipitate in the container.
> > -bubbled CS consistently able to achieve higher ppm (per Hanna)
> > -occassionally will get pale yellow CS with stir, never with bubbled
> > -consistently stirred CS will turn ashen with even minimal exposure
> to
> > light, bubbled does not seem to (I have not specifically
> > ''tested'' this.)
> > -brew time for higher ppm's consistenly quicker with bubbler.
> > (this case 36
> > hours for less than 20ppm stirred vs. 10 hrs. for 26ppm bubbled)
> >
> > I have no clue why such a difference. I know Ole Bob you do
> > not like the
> > bubbler, I believe also Trem that you prefer stir....
> >
> > Could someone explain some of these differences for me...in
> > terms I could
> > understand....
> > and if bubbling is not good, why....when it appears to make a better
> > product?
> >
> > TIA
> > Connie
> 
> 
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