Ole Bob, Respectfuly...I have used a stir'er and now a bubble'er to mix CS...The difference is: stired colloidal silver will always have a decreasing ppm reading , and a darker color change to yellow'ish with age. Bubbled CS will always (most always) stay clear, and keep the same reading for months, maybe forever? Just my observaton. Tel Tofflemire Phoenix, AZ
Gaston wrote: > Hi "Ole Bob" > > I see the reply from Ivan about CS that will probably read > higher when using a bubbler instead a stirrer. > > Have you had a chance of comparing the two to prove that pls ? > > I presume that Ivan has done so. > > Gaston > > ===================================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "I Anderson" <i...@win.co.nz> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:46 AM > Subject: RE: CS>questions: stir vs. bubble > > > Connie, > > > > A couple of thoughts come to mind: > > > > The stirrer does not mix too well. > > You are trying for too high a concentration. > > The bubbler introduces CO2 gas to the water, which will ionise and > > give a false (high) reading. > > > > If you are finding a change in the CS when exposed to light then it is > > possibly due to the quality of your water. > > > > Regards > > Ivan. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net] > > > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 11:48 a.m. > > > To: silver- list > > > Subject: CS>questions: stir vs. bubble > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the SG6-very happy with my generator. > > > I have done some experiementing with the way I make my CS. > > > > > > I would like to compare my brew with stirring vs. bubbling and > > please > > > comments as too the differences. > > > > > > I use a 64 fl. oz. coffee creamer container to make my CS. > > > > > > Some days...using the stir....it seems to take longer. Not > > > observant enough > > > to say why one day is different vs. another. > > > > > > Here are the comparisons of the last two batches made: > > > > > > --First brew: > > > Stirred batch. > > > Seeded, ppm per Hanna PWT 4ppm. > > > I cleaned electrodes (with heavy build up) 3 x's during the brew. > > > > > > After 36 hours of generation...the ppm per Hanna was about > > > 18ppm. Indicator > > > light, indicating that the brew had not reached 20pppm (as > > > dialed) was still > > > on. > > > My stirred CS ALWAYS reads a lower number the next day, when > > > retested. Often > > > I will turn the generator back on, let it run again until the > > > indicator > > > light goes off. > > > > > > Allowed the brew to sit overnight. A lot of precipitate in > > > the container. > > > Did not bother to retest the ppm. ( I expected it to be lower > > > than what > > > measured the night before) > > > I gave up on that brew...used it in the bathwater.... > > > > > > --Second brew: > > > Bubbled batch-stirrer removed. > > > > > > Seeded DW ppm at start 4ppm. > > > 10 hrs. later: indicator light off. > > > I did not clean the electrodes at all. > > > I shut down the generator. > > > Did not test the ppm. > > > left til this AM, testing ppm with Hanna, the ppm is 26ppm. > > > (set at 20ppm) > > > > > > Some, but little precipitate....electrodes with little build up. > > > > > > > > > My observed main points > > > > > > -bubbled CS consistently more stable after brew sits (ppm's > > > do not fall from > > > one day to the next) > > > -bubbled CS consistently has less build up on the electrodes, less > > > precipitate in the container. > > > -bubbled CS consistently able to achieve higher ppm (per Hanna) > > > -occassionally will get pale yellow CS with stir, never with bubbled > > > -consistently stirred CS will turn ashen with even minimal exposure > > to > > > light, bubbled does not seem to (I have not specifically > > > ''tested'' this.) > > > -brew time for higher ppm's consistenly quicker with bubbler. > > > (this case 36 > > > hours for less than 20ppm stirred vs. 10 hrs. for 26ppm bubbled) > > > > > > I have no clue why such a difference. I know Ole Bob you do > > > not like the > > > bubbler, I believe also Trem that you prefer stir.... > > > > > > Could someone explain some of these differences for me...in > > > terms I could > > > understand.... > > > and if bubbling is not good, why....when it appears to make a better > > > product? > > > > > > TIA > > > Connie > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
