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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg Key
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 200 psi test for components rated 175

Speaking of such test, How many systems are installed with a means to
test the backflow at the required forward flow rate? like a wall
hydrant?

Thom McMahon wrote:
> Don't forget the derided full forward flow test!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Leyton
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:42 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: 200 psi test for components rated 175
> 
> So it's contractual, not philosophical.   Presumably, the installing
> contractor tests it ... 
> 
> I don't think we're talking about testing the backflow appliances 
> itself for functionality - that's best left for the "certified
backflow
> technician."   If you pump up an UG including the BFP, the relief
valve
> will only operate when there's a differential between the clappers.  
> So an RPZ or RPDA usually weeps a bit when you pump it up, but once 
> the line is equalized you can run a conventional hydro.  And if you 
> just want to test against it, you can pump up through the FDC or main 
> drain or the supply-side tap on the riser check, if so equipped.
> 
> Steve Leyton
> Protection Design & Consulting
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coastal
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:10 PM
> To: Steve Leyton
> Subject: Re[2]: 200 psi test for components rated 175
> 
> Hello Steve,
> 
> I start 1' AFF with my work. I sub out any underground installation 
> work I get (which I try to avoid) and it is up to them to test it. 
> Only question I have is how do you get an RPZ to hold the back 
> pressure to hydro to it? Pump the system up through the #1 test cock?
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Charles Thurston 
>  Coastal                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thursday, May 29, 2008, 6:55:37 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> I'll bite - why not?   If the Fire Department pumps into the FDC,
> isn't
>> it likely to back pressure the BFP to at least 150?  And if so,
> wouldn't
>> it be prudent to test the assembly?
> 
>> Steve Leyton
>> Protection Design & Consulting
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>> Charles Thurston
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:30 PM
>> To: IPA
>> Subject: Re: 200 psi test for components rated 175
> 
>> Hello IPA,
> 
>> I for one have never put 200 on the backflow, I will not either.
> 
>> Thursday, May 29, 2008, 6:03:25 PM, you wrote:
> 
>>> I've got this question posed to me:
> 
>>> Backflow preventor is rated at 175 (as are most of the fire 
>>> sprinkler
>>> components) yet we are required to do a 200 psi test. Is the keyword
>> here
>>> "working pressure" of 175 psi or am I missing something?
> 
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