Well maybe that explains why a plan we were just looking at had a wall hydrant 
shown.  



>>> "Ron Greenman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/30/08 8:56 AM >>>
That's funny. I'm pretty taciturn and your word elicited an out loud chuckle.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Fletcher, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> six
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg Key
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:37 AM
> To: [email protected] 
> Subject: Re: 200 psi test for components rated 175
>
> Speaking of such test, How many systems are installed with a means to
> test the backflow at the required forward flow rate? like a wall
> hydrant?
>
> Thom McMahon wrote:
>> Don't forget the derided full forward flow test!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
>> Leyton
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:42 AM
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Subject: RE: Re[2]: 200 psi test for components rated 175
>>
>> So it's contractual, not philosophical.   Presumably, the installing
>> contractor tests it ...
>>
>> I don't think we're talking about testing the backflow appliances
>> itself for functionality - that's best left for the "certified
> backflow
>> technician."   If you pump up an UG including the BFP, the relief
> valve
>> will only operate when there's a differential between the clappers.
>> So an RPZ or RPDA usually weeps a bit when you pump it up, but once
>> the line is equalized you can run a conventional hydro.  And if you
>> just want to test against it, you can pump up through the FDC or main
>> drain or the supply-side tap on the riser check, if so equipped.
>>
>> Steve Leyton
>> Protection Design & Consulting
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coastal
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:10 PM
>> To: Steve Leyton
>> Subject: Re[2]: 200 psi test for components rated 175
>>
>> Hello Steve,
>>
>> I start 1' AFF with my work. I sub out any underground installation
>> work I get (which I try to avoid) and it is up to them to test it.
>> Only question I have is how do you get an RPZ to hold the back
>> pressure to hydro to it? Pump the system up through the #1 test cock?
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Charles Thurston
>>  Coastal                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
>> Thursday, May 29, 2008, 6:55:37 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>> I'll bite - why not?   If the Fire Department pumps into the FDC,
>> isn't
>>> it likely to back pressure the BFP to at least 150?  And if so,
>> wouldn't
>>> it be prudent to test the assembly?
>>
>>> Steve Leyton
>>> Protection Design & Consulting
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>> Charles Thurston
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:30 PM
>>> To: IPA
>>> Subject: Re: 200 psi test for components rated 175
>>
>>> Hello IPA,
>>
>>> I for one have never put 200 on the backflow, I will not either.
>>
>>> Thursday, May 29, 2008, 6:03:25 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>>> I've got this question posed to me:
>>
>>>> Backflow preventor is rated at 175 (as are most of the fire
>>>> sprinkler
>>>> components) yet we are required to do a 200 psi test. Is the keyword
>>> here
>>>> "working pressure" of 175 psi or am I missing something?
>>
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