If it is a high rise and these "closets" are not part of a continuous rated shaft how could you justify penetrations through the floors?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > What is the construction of the space? Are there exposed wood joists? Other > combustible loading? Does the hatch allow a person into the space or would > all work on the heat pumps have to be reaching through the opening? If it is > an unaccessible, N/C space, would 8.14.1.2.2 (2002) apply? > > > At 04:08 PM 2/13/2009, you wrote: >> >> A call to NFPA gets us to here: >> >> It doesn't fit anywhere to omit protection, but common sense would dictate >> that it is not required. >> >> He suggested we try hanging on to 8.15.1.2.1. >> >> Does anyone have any experience with these? >> >> Greg McGahan >> Operations Manager >> >> Living Water Fire Protection >> 1160 McKenzie Road >> P.O. Box 877 >> Cantonment, Florida 32533 >> (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:45 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: water source heat pumps >> >> Just got more info. The unit sits in a "closet" but there is NO ACCESS >> except through a panel on the front of the unit that allows access to the >> air filter. >> >> The only questionable fact to me is that there is an electric fan in the >> heat pump. >> >> >> Greg McGahan >> Operations Manager >> >> Living Water Fire Protection >> 1160 McKenzie Road >> P.O. Box 877 >> Cantonment, Florida 32533 >> (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John O'Connor >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: water source heat pumps >> >> Greg, >> One drawback that I see is future service work by another contractor, >> thinking that the entire floor is isolated by the FCV and having that one >> LIVE vertical branchline feeding all the utility closets. Could be a >> problem. >> >> John R. O'Connor >> National Fire Sprinklers, Inc. >> Nashville TN >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg >> McGahan >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:48 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: water source heat pumps >> >> OK gang I need some advice hopefully based on experience. >> >> We are doing an independent hotel that is being constructed more like a >> typical condominium. In the far end of each unit (room), there is a small >> enclosed closet without a door, but with a removable cover that houses a >> Water Source Heat Pump. >> >> I have assumed sprinkler will be required up to this point but I am open >> to >> comments on that. There is NO WAY to get concealed piping to the closet at >> this time. The Building is 9 Stories tall with separate FCV's on each >> floor >> etc. >> >> My Question is can I feed these closets like a shaft from the 1st floor >> system all of the way up in order to avoid a lot of grief and trouble to >> get >> the owner to add soffits in every Unit? >> >> All comments welcome except those that point out something painfully >> obvious >> I may be missing. >> >> Greg McGahan >> Operations Manager >> >> Living Water Fire Protection >> 1160 McKenzie Road >> P.O. Box 877 >> Cantonment, Florida 32533 >> (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > Todd G. 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