I think so and NFPA thinks so, but no one knows so. Greg McGahan Operations Manager
Living Water Fire Protection 1160 McKenzie Road P.O. Box 877 Cantonment, Florida 32533 (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: water source heat pumps What is the construction of the space? Are there exposed wood joists? Other combustible loading? Does the hatch allow a person into the space or would all work on the heat pumps have to be reaching through the opening? If it is an unaccessible, N/C space, would 8.14.1.2.2 (2002) apply? At 04:08 PM 2/13/2009, you wrote: >A call to NFPA gets us to here: > >It doesn't fit anywhere to omit protection, but common sense would >dictate that it is not required. > >He suggested we try hanging on to 8.15.1.2.1. > >Does anyone have any experience with these? > >Greg McGahan >Operations Manager > >Living Water Fire Protection >1160 McKenzie Road >P.O. Box 877 >Cantonment, Florida 32533 >(850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 >[email protected] > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan >Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:45 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: water source heat pumps > >Just got more info. The unit sits in a "closet" but there is NO >ACCESS except through a panel on the front of the unit that allows >access to the air filter. > >The only questionable fact to me is that there is an electric fan in >the heat pump. > > >Greg McGahan >Operations Manager > >Living Water Fire Protection >1160 McKenzie Road >P.O. Box 877 >Cantonment, Florida 32533 >(850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 >[email protected] > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John O'Connor >Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:36 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: water source heat pumps > >Greg, >One drawback that I see is future service work by another contractor, >thinking that the entire floor is isolated by the FCV and having that one >LIVE vertical branchline feeding all the utility closets. Could be a >problem. > >John R. O'Connor >National Fire Sprinklers, Inc. >Nashville TN > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan >Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:48 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: water source heat pumps > >OK gang I need some advice hopefully based on experience. > >We are doing an independent hotel that is being constructed more like a >typical condominium. In the far end of each unit (room), there is a small >enclosed closet without a door, but with a removable cover that houses a >Water Source Heat Pump. > >I have assumed sprinkler will be required up to this point but I am open to >comments on that. There is NO WAY to get concealed piping to the closet at >this time. The Building is 9 Stories tall with separate FCV's on each floor >etc. > >My Question is can I feed these closets like a shaft from the 1st floor >system all of the way up in order to avoid a lot of grief and trouble to get >the owner to add soffits in every Unit? > >All comments welcome except those that point out something painfully obvious >I may be missing. > >Greg McGahan >Operations Manager > >Living Water Fire Protection >1160 McKenzie Road >P.O. Box 877 >Cantonment, Florida 32533 >(850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 >[email protected] > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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