I have one general question.

Some OSM relations contain a link to a Wikidata item. For those relations,
would it be possible to automatically import the names in several languages
and do so in a way that changes in OSM also change Wikidata?

Thanks,
Micru

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM, SomeoneElse <li...@atownsend.org.uk> wrote:

> On 28/05/2015 16:38, Andrew Guertin wrote:
>
>>
>> A quick internet search shows plenty of results for Абергавенни,
>> including Wikipedia, hotel booking sites, and Harry Potter websites, and by
>> looking at Google's book results, you can see that it's been in use since
>> at least the 1800s. And with just a few minutes' look, I found someone from
>> the next city over using the name[1]. I understand this was just an
>> example, but it seems to show the opposite of what you wanted. The town
>> with the English name Abergavenny also has a Russian name Абергавенни,
>> which is in use by locals, and has been established for hundreds of years.
>>
>
> No, it does not.  Abergavenny / Y Fenni has actual names that people from
> there use to describe the place (and appears on signs) in two languages;
> "Абергавенни" is merely a translation of one of them. It's not verifiable
> on the ground.
>
> There is a fundamental difference between "an actual name for a place" and
> "a translation of one of those names" - it's that distinction that we would
> lose by populating name:ru, name:xx or whatever alongside name:cy and
> name:en.  The russian-language link talking about Abergavenny Food Festival
> does indeed use the word "Абергавенни"- and that's a translation of
> "Abergavenny" in that message (they even put "Abergavenny" in brackets
> afterwards to make it clear that that's what it is - it's clearly not
> guaranteed to be understood on its own).
>
> If "Абергавенни" is added as name:ru for Abergavenny, how would we tell
> the real names (the ones that people have historically used locally to
> refer to the place) from the tranlations?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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