On 28/05/2015 10:30, Komяpa wrote:
Hello,

I'd like to share my story.

We're making a new Global Map for World of Tanks game.
Game is translated into many languages, of which Russian and English are most significant. Now we're in open beta, you can look at the map at https://ru.wargaming.net/globalmap/

To release the map, we need the whole map in Russian, and in English.

For closed beta, we chose to enable a small subset of a map, 80 provinces, for which I manually added the translations:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30451655

This changeset got reverted by SomeoneElse:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30706979

Now we can't use OSM to render the map directly.


Sure you can. You just need to combine OSM data with some other data (such as a list that you've previously created).

The problem (described in some detail on my changeset above) is that the fact that somewhere like Abergavenny has two names (or three, if you count the old Latin name). Both "Abergavenny" and "Y Fenni" are verifiable on the ground, by looking at the "Welcome to..." sign on the roads in. "Абергавенни" does not appear on that sign.

Ethnologue (http://www.ethnologue.com/world) says that there are > 7000 languages in the world. Taginfo (http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=name) says that there are > 45,000,000 names in OSM.

It's a perfectly reasonable request for someone to ask "can I have a map that shows place names displayed in my language / alphabet". It's not a reasonable request to ask OSM to store up to 7,000 variants against 45,000,000 names, when most of those objects simply do not have names in those languages.

We don't duplicate absolutely everything that can possibly be gleaned (or calculated) about a place in OSM (e.g. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abergavenny - there's no call for a "king_charles_was_here=yes" tag). Lots of people combine OSM data with other data (e.g. http://bombsight.org/ , which appeared on the news recently to highlight a news item) - that's why I asked up the thread for more details on how it might be done with wikidata.

Cheers,

Andy




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